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FemDomSoc

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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Help! What's a good way to get out of these......
MicHeLLe
"HeLL HaTh No FuRy"

MoltenPlastic

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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FemDomSoc wrote:
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> Help! What's a good way to get out of these......
> MicHeLLe

If you only have one, and it's your first ticket in several years, you
can appear in traffic court and ask the judge to defer it. If he does,
you'll still have to pay the fine but the violation won't go on your
driving record unless you get *another* ticket within 6 months or so.

Mike N.

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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paying them.

FemDomSoc wrote:
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> Help! What's a good way to get out of these......
> MicHeLLe

> "HeLL HaTh No FuRy"

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Slowhand

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Mar 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/24/99
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FemDomSoc wrote in message <19990323174243...@ng101.aol.com>...

>Help! What's a good way to get out of these......
>MicHeLLe
>"HeLL HaTh No FuRy"

Find out who the judge is and pay him personaly at least double what the
ticket is. Or if you're kinda nervous about that, make up some sad ass
story and hope he is leniant. All in all, tickets suck. Oh yeah, buy a
radar detector. I haven't had a speeding ticket since I bought mine 6 years
ago.
SH

Dave

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Mar 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/24/99
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Er, don't speed. Actually, the approach I use is: don't speed in front of
cops/cameras/anyone who *might* be a cop (assume unknown headlights behind =
cop unless proven otherwise.) Consequently I, ahem, *may or may not* do
speeds way in xs of the limits most of the time and still have a clean
licence.

Keep your eyes peeled. If you see a cop, slow down. If yoiu can't be
bothered, either accept the fact that you're going to get a ticket or slow
down. If you're too tired, you should slow down anyway. Anyone who's too
tired to observe events is too tired to drive.

Prioritise. Assume that if you speed you're going to get a ticket. Is what
you're speeding for going to make you more money than the ticket is going to
cost? If so, you make a profit anyway and you can pay the ticket, stick 2
fingers up at the cops and say "so what I still profit".

Mike N.

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Mar 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/24/99
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Well radar guns are just another piece of electronics that can screw up,
it can be effected by, temp, humidity, magnetic radiation. Deny, deny,
just say the radar gun must have been faulty.

FemDomSoc wrote:
>
> Hey look guys, I'm not a retard, i obviously know that speeding has a chance of
> earning me a ticket.....and generally I follow the speed limit...But like all
> of you (I think....) I am only human and have a bad day from time to time where
> i have trouble focusing on menial things.....I have a busy life and sometimes I
> get stressed out and fuck up....I'm not trying to zip all over the place and
> not accept fault for the consequences, I'm just asking for any helpful hints
> anyone may have to try and make the best of my fuck up. And yes, I do have a
> radar detector, I guess it's a piece of shit....Also everyone else was going
> much faster than me so I didn't realize I was speeding....I know it's not an
> excuse but hey, we all have bad days. No reason to talk to me like I'm an
> idiot.


> MicHeLLe
> "HeLL HaTh No FuRy"

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FemDomSoc

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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Merkin

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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Slowhand wrote in message <36f92...@news.pacifier.com>...


>
>FemDomSoc wrote in message <19990323174243...@ng101.aol.com>...
>>Help! What's a good way to get out of these......

>>MicHeLLe
>>"HeLL HaTh No FuRy"
>

>Find out who the judge is and pay him personaly at least double what the
>ticket is. Or if you're kinda nervous about that, make up some sad ass
>story and hope he is leniant. All in all, tickets suck. Oh yeah, buy a
>radar detector. I haven't had a speeding ticket since I bought mine 6
years
>ago.
>SH
>


My method is to drive a 1979 Toyota Pickup to and from work. Won't ever get
a speeding ticket. Never. Even in a school zone. If, perchance, the road
is downhill and the truck DOES get over the speed limit, the cop just taps
the radar gun and shakes his/her head in disbelief.

A friend of mine came up with a wonderful method. Here it goes.
-Doug was pulled over for speeding.
-Doug accepts the speeding ticket.
-Doug goes to court and instead of pleading guilty to speeding, he instead
pleads guilty to the far more serious charge of reckless endangerment.
-The judge (this is worked out ahead of time) finds Doug guilty, and slaps
him in jail, with bail posted at $300.
-Doug posts bail from the court, even before they haul his butt to jail.
-The judge sets the court date for a time in the future, say two minutes
away.
-Doug leaves.
-The judge finds Doug just skipped bail, but the charge doesn't merit
sending the cops after him. The charges are dismissed and the court keeps
the bail money.
-Since a trial was never held, Doug doesn't have anything on his record and
is able to keep driving the school bus, or delivering for large pizza
chains. Also, his insurance company never finds out that Doug was doing 92
in a 65. His insurance rates don't go up, and the county just got $300
instead of the usual $80. Expensive in the short run, but the deal of the
century in the long run.

Then, there's always the joke that ends with "Oh, no. Not another
breath-a-lyzer test!"

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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

MoltenPlastic

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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Merkin wrote:
>
> A friend of mine came up with a wonderful method. Here it goes.
> -Doug was pulled over for speeding.
> -Doug accepts the speeding ticket.
> -Doug goes to court and instead of pleading guilty to speeding, he instead
> pleads guilty to the far more serious charge of reckless endangerment.
> -The judge (this is worked out ahead of time) finds Doug guilty, and slaps
> him in jail, with bail posted at $300.
> -Doug posts bail from the court, even before they haul his butt to jail.
> -The judge sets the court date for a time in the future, say two minutes
> away.
> -Doug leaves.
> -The judge finds Doug just skipped bail, but the charge doesn't merit
> sending the cops after him. The charges are dismissed and the court keeps
> the bail money.
> -Since a trial was never held, Doug doesn't have anything on his record and
> is able to keep driving the school bus, or delivering for large pizza
> chains. Also, his insurance company never finds out that Doug was doing 92
> in a 65. His insurance rates don't go up, and the county just got $300
> instead of the usual $80. Expensive in the short run, but the deal of the
> century in the long run.

Sounds risky. What would've happened to Doug if he hadn't been able to leave
before the court date? He'd of been playing "find the penny" with a gay
bodybuilder named "Turk", right?

MoltenPlastic

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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George Patton wrote:
>
> On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:42:16 -0800, " Mike N." <705...@ican.net>
> amused me with:
>
> >:Well radar guns are just another piece of electronics that can screw up,

> >:it can be effected by, temp, humidity, magnetic radiation. Deny, deny,
> >:just say the radar gun must have been faulty.
>
> Radar guns are calibrated daily before each patrol shift. They are
> not effected by weather (except during a very heavy rain they will be
> less effective as to range, but not accuracy), temperature, humidity,
> or magnetic radiation. The only negative effect can be the angle at
> which the patrol officer is shooting the vehicle, or a possible
> confusion of the target vehicle in a large group.

I've sometimes wondered: What would happen if you went to traffic court and
SWORE that the cop was wrong despite what his radar gun (if he even used one)
said?

FemDomSoc

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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>MicHeLLe - you are an idiot. Do the crime, do the time or pay the
>fine.
>
>Loki

Oh...and you judge people you have no knowledge of on something as
inconsequential as a traffic ticket...oh yes, that makes you a genius.....and
in fact this whole newsgroup revolves around following laws to the letter
doesn't it.....you, my friend, need to deal with your own insecurities instead
of projecting them onto others.

Slowhand

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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Merkin wrote in message

<snip some>

>My method is to drive a 1979 Toyota Pickup to and from work. Won't ever
get
>a speeding ticket. Never. Even in a school zone. If, perchance, the road
>is downhill and the truck DOES get over the speed limit, the cop just taps
>the radar gun and shakes his/her head in disbelief.


Believe it or not, I got a ticket for doing 65 in a 55 in a 1977 Toyota PU.
I used my defense as the Yota wouldn't go that fast and the cops radar gun
mustv been fugged up. He told me to keep it cool for 6 mos and he'd drop
the ticket.
SH

KarKar7

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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>Help! What's a good way to get out of these......
>MicHeLLe

I don't know if this actually works, but its worth a shot. Obviously, paying
the ticket is nothing in comparison to the insurance points that will follow
you for years (even after the points are gone). When you go to pay the ticket,
make the amount out for slightly more (under a $1). The court then HAS to send
you a refund for the difference. So...when you get that check for 81 cents for
instance...don't cash it. Supposedly, they cannot process it until the proper
money has been cleared. Result....no points.
Again...I don't know if this works for sure but its worth a shot.

PsychoJim

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 00:31:27 -0700, "Merkin"
<mer...@slow-death-to-spammers.sisna.com> threw this message through
my window, tied to a brick:

>>Then, there's always the joke that ends with "Oh, no. Not another
>>breath-a-lyzer test!"

When I first read her post, I was thinking about that. However,
personally, I'd rather pay the ticket. :)

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Merkin

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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Like I said, they worked this out ahead of time, probably with the DA.

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MoltenPlastic

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Mar 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/26/99
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Try slightly more than $1. Some areas may have a policy of not refunding anything less
than a buck. (I've seen it before.)

MoltenPlastic

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Mar 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/26/99
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George Waterloo wrote:
> [snip]
> One other little thingy of interest, police might target certain
> colors on a given day (unless the car is obviously zooming), say - a
> traffic crackdown on Thursday, and they will target silver cars. Next
> week they have a crackdown on Monday, and will target blue cars.

That reminds me of a story a friend told me once. He was doing something
like 50 in a 25 mph zone, so a cop pulled him over...

COP: You're going a little fast, aren't ya pal?

FRIEND: Oh, red cars *always* look like they're going fast.

He didn't get a ticket.

hepcat

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Mar 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/26/99
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howdy loki -

> In Germany - and I understand it is now being used in some places in
> the US, they have a "photo-radar", that will snap a photo of the
> vehicle and driver. You don't even know you are busted until you
> receive a citation in the mail with a picture of you picking your nose
> behind the wheel with the speed imprinted on the bottom of the
> photograph.

Here in England, they have what's called a `speed camera' that does basically
the same thing. They're interspersed all over the country...only problem
with them was that the film is too expensive, so they rig the flash bulbs
to go off, even if there's no film in the camera...

funny story- there was a guy in London who got tagged doing 90 on the M25,
(it's the London ring road)..anyway, he gets flashed and cops send him
the regulatory pic of his little Peugeot doing 90, along with the a fine
for about 100 pounds? (not sure of the amount, recaping this from memory)
...well, this guy figures he's going to play the game...he takes a picture
of a cheque made out for a hundred quid and sends it back to them...about
a week later he gets a picture of handcuffs from the London Met police,
along with a note saying something to the effect of, `Mr. ----, we so
dearly did enjoy your humorous answer, however you still owe us 100 pounds
sterling. Please pay promptly.'

..he ended up paying the fine..

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The Last Viking

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Mar 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/26/99
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The year is 1999. The place alt.revenge - and MoltenPlastic wrote:

I did something similar.

Cop: You're going a little fast, Paal.
Me: Yes, Porsches are always going fast.

It didn't work.

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Panhead

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Mar 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/26/99
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The Last Viking wrote:
>
> The year is 1999. The place alt.revenge - and MoltenPlastic wrote:
> :> George Waterloo wrote:
> :> > [snip]
> :> > One other little thingy of interest, police might target certain
> :> > colors on a given day (unless the car is obviously zooming), say - a
> :> > traffic crackdown on Thursday, and they will target silver cars. Next
> :> > week they have a crackdown on Monday, and will target blue cars.
> :>
> :> That reminds me of a story a friend told me once. He was doing something
> :> like 50 in a 25 mph zone, so a cop pulled him over...
> :>
> :> COP: You're going a little fast, aren't ya pal?
> :>
> :> FRIEND: Oh, red cars *always* look like they're going fast.
>
> I did something similar.
>
> Cop: You're going a little fast, Paal.
> Me: Yes, Porsches are always going fast.
>
> It didn't work.

You push fast , Paal. :)

MoltenPlastic

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Mar 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/26/99
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George Waterloo wrote:
>
> On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:21:53 +0000, hepcat <hep...@dircon.co.uk>
> amused me with:
>
> >:
> >:howdy loki -

> >:
> >:> In Germany - and I understand it is now being used in some places in
> >:> the US, they have a "photo-radar", that will snap a photo of the
> >:> vehicle and driver. You don't even know you are busted until you
> >:> receive a citation in the mail with a picture of you picking your nose
> >:> behind the wheel with the speed imprinted on the bottom of the
> >:> photograph.
> >:
> >:Here in England, they have what's called a `speed camera' that does basically
> >:the same thing. They're interspersed all over the country...only problem
> >:with them was that the film is too expensive, so they rig the flash bulbs
> >:to go off, even if there's no film in the camera...
>
> I remember a time we took a broken down police car, dressed a
> mannequin (sp?) (dummy used in dress store windows) in a uniform, and
> towed the car to a speed enforcement zone. Seemed to work.

I've seen that trick. I've also seen cops just parked by the roadside with their
lights flashing.

Where I live, it's usually four lanes of bumper-to-bumper traffic going 10-20
mph over the limit (more in construction zones). There's no way the cops could
pull a car over if they wanted to, so they just play headgames with the motorists.

MoltenPlastic

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Mar 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/26/99
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Next time, try this:

"If you were as smart as you think you are, then you wouldn't be a damn cop."

Maybe that will get you out of a ticket. It's worth a try, right?

Starshipper

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Sassy wrote:
>
> George Waterloo wrote in message <36fc00c1.9103317@news-server>...
> >On 26 Mar 1999 21:28:30 GMT, viki...@ekran.no (The Last Viking)
> >amused me with:

> >
> >>:The year is 1999. The place alt.revenge - and MoltenPlastic wrote:
> >>::> George Waterloo wrote:
> >>::> > [snip]
> >>::> > One other little thingy of interest, police might target certain
> >>::> > colors on a given day (unless the car is obviously zooming), say - a
> >>::> > traffic crackdown on Thursday, and they will target silver cars.
> Next
> >>::> > week they have a crackdown on Monday, and will target blue cars.
> >>::>
> >>::> That reminds me of a story a friend told me once. He was doing
> something
> >>::> like 50 in a 25 mph zone, so a cop pulled him over...
> >>::>
> >>::> COP: You're going a little fast, aren't ya pal?
> >>::>
> >>::> FRIEND: Oh, red cars *always* look like they're going fast.
> >>:
> >>:I did something similar.
> >>:
> >>:Cop: You're going a little fast, Paal.
> >>:Me: Yes, Porsches are always going fast.
> >>:
> >>:It didn't work.
> >>:
> >>:--(.)------------------T-H-E---L-A-S-T---V-I-K-I-N-G------------------v7.
> 73N
> >
> >How many people did you have pushing you anyway? We were all getting
> >our passports in order to come over and give you a hand - we found a
> >spare Yugo engine we thought we could fit into it.
> >
> >Loki
>
> Alas, then, I'm afraid, I shall lose the image I have of him,
> Fred-Flintstone-style,
> feet just a-runnin' out the bottom of his little Porschie-thing.
> <heavy sigh>
> Sassy

One more time I'm glad I had the foresight to get a waterproof keyboard
this time around. Now I just need splashguards for the walls. I just
know this apparition will haunt my dreams tonight.

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The Last Viking

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The year is 1999. The place alt.revenge - and George Waterloo wrote:
:> On 26 Mar 1999 21:28:30 GMT, viki...@ekran.no (The Last Viking)
:> amused me with:
:>
:> our passports in order to come over and give you a hand - we found a

:> spare Yugo engine we thought we could fit into it.

and gettin' bombed by NATO? Noway!

Nuke Man

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Mar 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/27/99
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they did that in my home town for a while, they even put a radar gun in
the manequin's hand. it worked for a while too till somebody realized
that the cruiser doors were unlocked. A long piece of rope, one store
manequin dressed as a police officer, and an oak tree make an
interesting display in the middle of a small town. They caught the kids
who did it, and made them do a bunch of comunity service.


Don Quixote

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Sassy wrote in message <7dh9qv$iar$1...@winter.news.rcn.net>...

>>How many people did you have pushing you anyway? We were all getting

>>our passports in order to come over and give you a hand - we found a
>>spare Yugo engine we thought we could fit into it.
>>

>>Loki
>
>
>
>Alas, then, I'm afraid, I shall lose the image I have of him,
>Fred-Flintstone-style,
>feet just a-runnin' out the bottom of his little Porschie-thing.
><heavy sigh>
>Sassy
>


Now I am confused ( what's new;right?)

Does LV stand for Last Viking or Low Velocity, or both?

DQ

Bill Lemar, III

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Mar 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/28/99
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George Waterloo wrote:
>
> On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:03:25 -0800, guile...@hotmail.com
> (Guileless) amused me with:

>
> >:In article <36fac9a3.351207413@news-server>, Loki wrote:
> >:
> >:> On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:42:16 -0800, " Mike N." <705...@ican.net>
> >:> amused me with:
> >:>
> >:> >:Well radar guns are just another piece of electronics that can screw up,
> >:> >:it can be effected by, temp, humidity, magnetic radiation. Deny, deny,
> >:> >:just say the radar gun must have been faulty.
> >:>
> >:> Radar guns are calibrated daily before each patrol shift. They are
> >:> not effected by weather (except during a very heavy rain they will be
> >:> less effective as to range, but not accuracy), temperature, humidity,
> >:> or magnetic radiation. The only negative effect can be the angle at
> >:> which the patrol officer is shooting the vehicle, or a possible
> >:> confusion of the target vehicle in a large group.
> >:
> >:If they are so foolproof, why do they need to be recalibrated daily?
>
> Simply because of legal issues.
>
> They can be bumped, dropped, slide off the seat of a car and slam into
> the dashboard during a hard stop, have drinks spilled upon them.
> Plus, like any electronic instrument components might have certain
> fluctuations. The ones mounted outside of the car are subjected to
> temperature and weather hazards as well as jerks hitting the thing
> when the officer is stopped for a donut.
>
> They are calibrated using a tuning fork. Just like the kind you had
> in high school music class, this fork emits a certain frequency that
> the radar gun must match exactly or the gun can not be used for
> citations until it is repaired. After all, if you can't attest to
> it's accuracy then you can't attest to the person's speed.
>
> Lasers are new to me, when they came out I was long out of the patrol
> division. To be honest, I don't know whether or not they need to be
> calibrated or certified. I'll try to remember to ask next time I go
> to the poker game. Or get busted for speeding.
>
> Lasers are more affected by inclement weather though, rain/snow will
> block it or reduce it's range far more than radar - but on a clear day
> the officer can have the ticket written up and waiting for you by the
> time you get to him. Those things are pretty awesome from the blue
> side of the issue. Laser detectors are really a waste of money, your
> only hope of it being useful is if the officer is targeting a car way
> ahead of you and hits you while he's getting his aim steady.

>
> One other little thingy of interest, police might target certain
> colors on a given day (unless the car is obviously zooming), say - a
> traffic crackdown on Thursday, and they will target silver cars. Next
> week they have a crackdown on Monday, and will target blue cars. One
> time the past mayor in my city (a real lunatic) decided to crack down
> on speeders and in a public announcement said that all officers had
> been directed to write you up if you were one mile over the limit. We
> all pretty much ignored him, just another publicity stunt; our
> department only had 400 cars on the street at any given shift ( maybe
> 40 were traffic enforcement) and to tie them all up writing every
> damned car on the street would have been a catastrophe. At the time,
> I was a detective and drove an unmarked car, and he directed us to
> write speeding violations - completely ignoring the fact that our
> state law prohibits unmarked cars from making traffic stops (not to
> mention that we had better things to do).
>
> Go figger ..... simply put - drive safely and carefully. Speed if you
> wish but be prepared for the consequences if caught.
>
> Loki

I've never heard of tarketing certain colors of cars. The original
poster wanted to know how to beat a speeding ticket.

Answer: Slow down and don't speed. Some speeders are seriously dangerous
drivers, just waiting to kill an innocent person. Some speed traps are
revenue makers.

Use common sense.

Bill Lemar, III

Jay

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Mar 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/28/99
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Beat Speeding Tickets:

1-Fight every ticket you get. Take it to court...gives you a shot that
the officer won't show up due to circumstances...you get off.

2-Buy a radar detector

3-Get one of those X-Cops who fight tickets for people. They
normally can get you a great deal...most of time you don't
lost points!

dean

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Mar 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/28/99
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the one thing said here that makes sense is #1 Fight every ticket you
get.............. the rest is well off the mark.

save your money on a dectector...........
when ticketed......... demand a jury
motion the court for every fair reason you can come up with......... (some
can be found at www.claimhelp.com/traffic )

your case will be won or lost in the ttack of the officers JUDGMENT.

what is his environment? is he in heavy competition with his peers for his
job? What can cause him to give the ticket other than his belief that you
are a criminal? What is the Leo's bonus package? etc etc etc.............

at the same time you are setting this line of questioning up..... also be
asking why, when you have harmed no one and when you have an absolute right
to transport your personal property on the highways so long as you harm no
one, is this proceeding taking place and how is it valid in light of those
facts.............

you can go on and on and on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the courts or cities won't
want to answer all those questions......... and if your persistent they will
dismiss out of frustration........... you will have won.

Those of you who are coming to this newsgroup to get help must
understand,,,,,,,,,,, you are mostly talking to the same guys that handed
you the problem in the first place............ why would you listen to
their one sided dribble? These officers demonstrate over and over again
that they have no knowledge beyond that provided to them from others who
would seek to make big business out of the infringment of your UNALIENABLE
RIGHT TO TRAVEL......

From the Desk of William D Duff............. claimhelp.com/traffic


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JP Davis

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>2-Buy a radar detector
>
i wish I had a pound for every person i`ve stopped with a radar
detector - "but officer, why didnt it work - do you think I could get
my money back"!!!!!
JP

MoltenPlastic

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George Waterloo wrote:
>
> On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 13:29:42 -0500, "Sassy"
> <sas...@ask.permission.com> amused me with:
>
> >:Jay wrote in message ...
> >:>Beat Speeding Tickets:
> >:<snip>
> >:
> >:>2-Buy a radar detector
> >:
> >:Always being aware of which state you are in as to the legality of having
> >:one of said detectors in your possession. Here, there is a fine (albeit
> >:small), but it can be confiscated for evidence purposes...
> >:
> >:<snip>
> >:
> >:Cheers.
> >:Sassy
> >:
>
> Someone told me that in Virginia it is $1000 plus confiscation. In
> Ohio, commercial vehicles are fined $150.00 and confiscation, but
> passenger cars can use them.
>

I have a "stealth" radar detector (it doesn't emit the signals that the
cop's radar detector detector looks for), and used it often while I
lived in Virginia. Seemed to work, since it went off quite a few times
but I never got busted for having it.

Mark Thomen

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Jay wrote:

> Beat Speeding Tickets:
>
> 1-Fight every ticket you get. Take it to court...gives you a shot that
> the officer won't show up due to circumstances...you get off.
>
> 2-Buy a radar detector
>
> 3-Get one of those X-Cops who fight tickets for people. They
> normally can get you a great deal...most of time you don't
> lost points!

4-Don't speed...

Mark

MuStArD iNsPeCtOr

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What you need to do is construct your own radar that, when in the zone
of a police radar, displays random numbers on the police one because it
gets all jumbled up.

MuStArD iNsPeCtOr

Mark Thomen

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Hahahahaha!!! This was really funny dean. Really - I'm still laughing...

It simply COULDN'T be that the officers' "judgement" was that you were going
over the speed limit. Golly gee, lookee here - I'm pacing this guy and he's
going 15 mph over the limit. I'd better make sure I'm using good judgement
here...

Hee-hee...

Mark

dean wrote:

Mark Thomen

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JP Davis wrote:

> >2-Buy a radar detector
> >
> i wish I had a pound for every person i`ve stopped with a radar
> detector - "but officer, why didnt it work - do you think I could get
> my money back"!!!!!
> JP

My usual answer is "because I didn't use radar - I paced you for the last
three blocks". Should be able to give them a ticket because they're too
stupid to use their rear-view mirrors when driving...

Mark

Starshipper

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MuStArD iNsPeCtOr wrote:
>

>
> JP Davis wrote:
> >
> > >2-Buy a radar detector
> > >
> > i wish I had a pound for every person i`ve stopped with a radar
> > detector - "but officer, why didnt it work - do you think I could get
> > my money back"!!!!!
> > JP

Mortimer Schnerd, RN

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Mark Thomen wrote in message <36FEF872...@ibm.net>...

>4-Don't speed...


Man, you're no fun. I think you missed the point.

I commute between one city and another on an interstate. The speed limit is
55. The only time anybody drives that is when there is a cop within
sight.... even then sometimes nobody slows down except me. The normal flow
of traffic is 65 in the right lane and 70+ in the left.

I make it a point not to stick out.... I drive a white Taurus and I tend to
drive in the right lane in the middle of the stampeding herd. I also use a
Valentine One radar/laser detector, which shows my how many radars are out
there, how strong the signal is, and whether the interrogation is from the
front, rear, or side. I also rely on the Mark I Eyeballs issued to me by
God. So far, so good.... I haven't gotten a ticket in more than 10 years,
even though I speed every day.

Before I bought the radar detector, I got stopped twice in 6 months. Each
time, the trooper let me go because I was in my whites. Many police
officers practice professional courtesy when it comes to nurses.... you
never know when I might be the guy you're gonna depend on to bring your pain
meds when you've been injured on the job.

BTW, it works both ways.... I practice professional courtesy as well.... I
bust my ass to take good care of cops and their families.... and I always
tell them why.


Mortimer Schnerd, RN
MSch...@nospam.carolina.rr.com
Spammers use these newsgroup postings to obtain your e-mail address. To
avoid spam, I have intentionally corrupted my return address. To contact
me, delete the "nospam" from my address..
You can visit my website at http://members.xoom.com/WorstNurse

dean

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Honesty, Fairness and fortitude thy name is RN.

That is exactly the kind of honesty people wish would come from their
police... instead, we get misinformation disguised as The Final Word from
well meaning Professionals..... Not.

Thanks for your comments Mort.................... you are ready to take the
next step.................... drive in the fast lane,,,,,,,,, accept that
ticket gracefully............... and Just Say No to the Courts..........
www.claimhelp.com/traffic

William D Duff
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The Dark Lord

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hell,

when I drove an Alfa GTV-6, the damn thing *wouldn't* go less than 75.
It just wouldn't run well that slow. But here in VA, I know where the
cops hang out and the places they don't so you could easily speed where
needed, and slow down when you had to.

Damn I miss that Alfa. Anyone got a good one for sale?

Starshipper

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I've got an 81/83 hybrid GTV6 that is mostly gathering dust since I
bought my Milano Verde. Needs some TLC, but it runs. I'm on the Left
Coast. Or try http://www.traderonline.com/auto/index.shtml - the best
online source for used classic cars. There is also
http://www.gtv6.org/, which is worth checking out.

Should you run into a Montreal in running condition, I'd appreciate a
heads-up.

A.L.F.A. -- Always Looking For Another

Fred McGuire

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E. Faubion wrote:

>
> "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <MSch...@nospam.carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >Many police officers practice professional courtesy when it comes to nurses....
> >you never know when I might be the guy you're gonna depend on to bring your
> >pain meds when you've been injured on the job.


> I trust this means you'd extend extra effort and courtesy above your normal
> level of care if the patient is an officer.

And what if they don't?


> If not, consider what happened locally a couple of years ago. An officer cited
> a woman on a traffic violation who was the head nurse at a local ER. She was
> upset that he did not extend to her any 'professional courtesy' and later at
> work she made some very unflattering remarks to a coworker about what she'd do
> if that officer or a member of his family ever came under her care. What she
> didn't know was that the coworker knew the officer's wife (also a hospital
> employee) so within a few hours the story made it's way back to officer who
> filed a formal complaint with the hospital. The nurse was fired the next day.
>
> http://www.oklahoma.net/~efaubion

Whoa there fella. Making threats, about getting nurses fired, isn't
extacly the American Way. Everyone should be treated equal.

Now I know why you removed <revenge> from this message.

You cops want special treatment and your doughnuts too. What a loser.

Fred McGuire
Orlando, FL

Mortimer Schnerd, RN

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Fred McGuire wrote in message <36FFCC...@tone.nospam.net>...

>E. Faubion wrote:
>>
>> "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <MSch...@nospam.carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Many police officers practice professional courtesy when it comes to
nurses....
>> >you never know when I might be the guy you're gonna depend on to bring
your
>> >pain meds when you've been injured on the job.
>
>> I trust this means you'd extend extra effort and courtesy above your
normal
>> level of care if the patient is an officer.


That is correct.

>And what if they don't?


No difference. Professional courtesy is a priviledge. I have no right to
expect it, yet I am delighted when it is extended. In any case, I don't see
the cops as the enemy, so I've always been friendly with them on and off the
job. I've can only truthfully say that I've been hassled by a cop once,
though I've gotten plenty of tickets when I was younger. For the most part,
the cops around here are just doing their job.

>> If not, consider what happened locally a couple of years ago. An officer
cited
>> a woman on a traffic violation who was the head nurse at a local ER. She
was
>> upset that he did not extend to her any 'professional courtesy' and later
at
>> work she made some very unflattering remarks to a coworker about what
she'd do
>> if that officer or a member of his family ever came under her care. What
she
>> didn't know was that the coworker knew the officer's wife (also a
hospital
>> employee) so within a few hours the story made it's way back to officer
who
>> filed a formal complaint with the hospital. The nurse was fired the next
day.


It'll never happen to me. Nurses and cops both have a shitty job and we
occupy roughly the same place in the social strata. That's why there tends
to be this professional courtesy between us.

>Whoa there fella. Making threats, about getting nurses fired, isn't
>extacly the American Way. Everyone should be treated equal.


Like I give a shit? Short of me poisoning the CEO's mother, I'm not likely
to be fired. My hospital is begging for nurses.... in fact, they're paying
a bounty for each RN I can talk into working there.

Digger

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well,

thanks for the heads up about your GTV-6, but yer a tad far to go for
one. How do you like yer 3.0 litre?
Seen the new GTVs in Italy, goddamn what I wouldn't do for one here, of
course the damn things are now FWD (sacrilege I say!) but I believe they
have an AWD version.

Didja notice that the new Mercury Cougar is a DIRECT rip off of the new
Fiats?

--
The abductions have already begun
All around you we've infected someone you love
Initiate the start of an alien war
We're already one!

Give in to what you cannot fight Walk among Us!

Starshipper

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Digger wrote:
>
> well,
>
> thanks for the heads up about your GTV-6, but yer a tad far to go for
> one. How do you like yer 3.0 litre?

I've been real happy with it as a daily driver. They really changed the
character of the engine - the 3.0 feels more like a V-8. Its calibrated
more for low-end grunt. Redline is lower. The Milano suspension seems
a bit softer than the GTV6 - say in the BMW 3-series class, as opposed
to a 911-eater like the GTV6. But its still a kick on Hwy 1 thru Big
Sur or up on 101 through the redwoods. Blew the mind of a Trans-Am
driver a month ago up on the Coast road when I got by him in a corner.
Poor guy was so shook up he had to pull over for a minute and regroup.

One of these days I'll build the ultimate GTV6 - use one of the new
24-valve 3.0's, and set the suspension back to Euro-spec.

> Seen the new GTVs in Italy, goddamn what I wouldn't do for one here, of
> course the damn things are now FWD (sacrilege I say!) but I believe they
> have an AWD version.

I hadn't heard about AWD - I should check out their corporate site. The
new coupes are really pretty cars, as are the new spiders (with the
V-6!). Its a crying shame you can't get them here.

> Didja notice that the new Mercury Cougar is a DIRECT rip off of the new
> Fiats?

I can't really say I pay much attentention to either FIAT or FORD.

no spam

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Mark Thomen wrote:


>
> Jay wrote:
>
> > Beat Speeding Tickets:
> >
> > 1-Fight every ticket you get. Take it to court...gives you a shot that
> > the officer won't show up due to circumstances...you get off.
> >
> > 2-Buy a radar detector
> >
> > 3-Get one of those X-Cops who fight tickets for people. They
> > normally can get you a great deal...most of time you don't
> > lost points!
>

> 4-Don't speed...
>
> Mark
5-Don't urinate on the side of the road

lesfo...@gmail.com

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On Tuesday, March 23, 1999 1:00:00 AM UTC-7, FemDomSoc wrote:
> Help! What's a good way to get out of these......
> MicHeLLe
> "HeLL HaTh No FuRy"

6 Myths That Are NOT Going
To Help You Win Your Case
(Avoid This Loser Advice!)
Let’s just debunk a few myths quickly. This should save you from spending money on ridiculous scams and relying on faulty tactics.
Myth #1:
I wasn’t really speeding and the officer will have to tell the truth (I have notes).
Nope. He won’t. You can’t hope to challenge the officer’s recollection of the events.
If there were three other cars and a truck coming down the road at the same time as you, he will say there was only one and he will be believed.
(You don’t think the court is going to take your word, or the word of your biased witness, against his, do you? I hope not.)
Myth #2:
There is a mistake on my ticket.
Possible. But it must be a fatal flaw and not an immaterial mistake. If the license plate # is wrong but the officer identifies your car – you lose.
If your name is spelled wrong – you still lose. If the ticket says a Grey Saab and you have a red pick-up – you win that one. (Save your money and don’t buy the book.)
Myth #3:
Try to get your case postponed hoping the officer doesn’t show.
When the officer does show up, what do you do then?
(There’s actually a book out there that advocates finding out when the officer is on vacation and trying to schedule the trial then. Sure, the cops at the station will be happy to hand out their work and vacation schedules. Why not ask them for addresses and their kid’s schools while you’re at it!)
Myth #4:
Claim “Speeding out of necessity”, or some other “can’t fail” excuse.
(There better be someone bleeding in your back seat to make this one work.)
Myth #5:
Plea bargain to go to traffic school.
Why in the world would you want to do that when you can get 100% off? Most pleas fall on deaf ears. These folks go through case after case after case and have heard it all before.
If they are willing to negotiate, they will ask you.
(Unless of course you like pleading with hard-asses and hope to be allowed to go to traffic school as a remote prize).
Myth #6:
I can trip up the officer through my clever questions and reduce his credibility.
If you are really, really good, you may catch Officer Stone on some inconsistency. But it is highly doubtful you can beat him this way.
He is trained and does this all the time. Remember, the court is on his side.
So if you thought any of the above tricks were going to get you off, think again.
Gimmicks don’t work.
The above information was taken from the Speeding Ticket Fixer web-site

lesfo...@gmail.com

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