Tyrant Question
Jacques Duvall
Bones a Rattlin
How can I get back at Suddam Hussein?
Finish your sex change and sleep with him while giving him a STD?
Simon
<8874-3AF...@storefull-621.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Deadly-...@webtv.net (Bones a Rattlin) shouted:
> Jacko wrote:
> How can I get back at Suddam Hussein?
>
> Finish your sex change and sleep with him while giving him a STD?
>
Ummm...
Have all the WebTVers forgotten how to format follow-ups, or is it just
the elite few?
If my memory serves me, that Duvall guy had the same problem.
Is it a mistake, a display of stupidity, a similar display of bad
netiquette, or should we start crying conspiracy?
--
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
Phaethon
Simon <coo...@mac.com> wrote in message
news:coolsim-0031B9...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.c
om...
It takes a little bit of effort to learn how to format a
follow-up with WebTV, it involves a little cutting and
pasting. There are basic WebTV units which allow very little
more than very simple browsing (and html e-mail) but there are
more advance units available. Apparently very few WebTVers
concern themselves with Usenet conventions
Jacques Duvall
>DES/page2.htm
><html><font size=2>paste the quote</font>
></html><br><br> <font size=3>type
>your responce
Actually, if memory serves, this is an e-mail someone sent me. I don't
know if this works. And I can't remember if I checked out the above
website.
Jacques Duvall
>It takes a little bit of effort to learn how to format
>a follow-up with WebTV, it involves a little
>cutting and pasting. There are basic WebTV
>units which allow very little more than very
>simple browsing (and html e-mail) but there are
>more advance units available. Apparently very
>few WebTVers concern themselves with
>Usenet conventions
phaethon,
first of all, he cannot read your post because it didn't come out on
WebTv (but I copied and pasted it here, so now he can) because WebTv
only gets about one out of three or four, maybe five, maybe even six,
maybe even seven posts in just about every newsgroup. Second of all, I
don't think that there are any WebTv boxes that have the smallifying
feature. If you want to help anyWebTv users out, just post one of these
links below on making letters from other people's posts smaller when
quoting for them, but you shouldn't blame them because it's not their
fault.
*************************************************
http://community-2.webtv.net/folgerscoffee2/CODES/page2.htm
<html><font size=2>paste the quote</font> </html><br><br> <font
size=3>type
your responce
***********************************************
http://community-1.webtv.net/Texxon/HelpPage/page3.html
2. How to "Smallify" Text
To use the "smallify" function to make quoted text smaller, here are
some simple instructions:
First use CCP (cut, copy, and paste) to copy the desired text to be
quoted.
Now place the cursor at the very beginning of the second line of text.
Hit Delete and then Return. (This is known as placing a "hard return"
for each line of text.)
Now, using the down arrow, move the cursor down to the beginning of the
next line of text, and use Delete and Return again, and continue the
process through all of the text.
Now, working your way up, place the cursor at the beginning of the last
line of text, and, using the shift key, hit the ( > ) key (the "greater
than" key.)
Moving up one line at a time, do the same for each line. You will have
to use your left and up arrows to place the (>) symbol at the beginning
of each line, including the first line.
Important note: Do not hold down the Shift key continuously, but depress
it each time you place the (>) symbol.
If you see a partial line of text "appear" below where you are working,
and it does not have a (>) in front of it, don't try to go back and
place a (>) symbol in front of it. Just leave it alone. This will not
always happen, but it is normal.
Work your way to the top line of text, and you are done!
Note: You will not see the effects of smallifying until after an email
has been sent! You may check your Sent mail folder to see the effect, or
simply send yourself some test emails to see the results of your work.
If the text you are quoting has a quote within it, you can further
separate the "quote within a quote" by placing two (>) symbols in front
of each of those lines. This has the same effect as "double indenting."
The process can be carried one step further by using three (>) symbols,
but that's about the limit. To use more than three (>) symbols would
make the text lines so short that they would be difficult to read.
Practice is the key to learning this procedure.
Here is an alternate way to "smallify".
1. First, use CCP to place the text you want to smallify.
2. Next, place your cursor at the beginning of the 1st line of text.
3. Type the > symbol
4. Hit CMD + right arrow
5. Hit Return
6. Repeat #3 through #5 until done.
My undying thanks to Fourthrok for forwarding this alternate method to
me from the webtv.users newsgroup, and for her continued support of this
HelpPage. Check out her web site here!
Aside from the previous instructions, a newer method of smallifying has
been discovered. Click here to read all about it!
**********************************************
http://community-2.webtv.net/goofysshop/smallifycode/
How to Smallify
First, cut copy and past (CC&P) the part of the message you want
smallified.
Then we go to write an e-mail, and in the body, we drop down one line.
Then we put a > at the very first of the first line.
Then we hold down the "cmd" key, and hit the "right" arrow key. This
puts our cursor at the end of the line.
Then we hit the "return" key. This brings the cursor to the first of the
second line.
Then again we type in the > then hold down the "cmd" key and tap the
"right" arrow key. This puts our cursor at the end of the second line.
Then again we hit the "return" key.
We just keep doing this till we reach the end of what we want to
smallify.
Sometimes, when we hit the "return" key, the next line will drop down,
so we just put our cursor on it and hit "delete" to bring it back up,
and start again with the >.
You will see all the > at the beginning of each line, and it will look
stupid, but when you mail it, it will shape up.
You can try this by mailing it to yourself, and see what it looks like
when you receive it.
**********************************************
http://home.pacbell.net/epaulnet/cutcopypaste.htm
What Cut, Copy and Paste is Good For
If you're writing a letter or post, you will frequently want to be able
to include material from the original within your response. While this
can be done by Forwarding or Attaching the entire original message, by
copying text from the original instead you can insert your comments
before, between, and after parts of the original text (which can be
indented and "smallified," giving the appearance of quoted-text
editâ€"see below).
There are also many times when you might want to include material from
other sources in your messages, and c/c/p allows you to do this
easilyâ€"you could even include the text of an entire online
newspaper
article you want someone to see in a letter to them.
If you make webpages, the ability to copy information from another
location into your own page is a real timesaver (it's also possible to
outright steal material in this wayâ€"but that would of course be
wrong).
If you write long, involved HTML e-mail signatures, c/c/p will allow you
to cut the entire code of your sig and send an HTML-free message, then
paste it back after the fact (and you can keep the code by pasting it
somewhere else in the meantimeâ€"you could even have a series of
signatures saved within a single webpage of code on a homepage site).
The Four Cmd's
There are four basic Cmd key combinations you'll be using when you
cut/copy/paste text. Here they are, along with what they do:
Cmd-A â€" Highlights the entire page (actually, in certain
situations it
will highlight somewhat less than all the text on the screen).
Cmd-C - Copies whatever was highlighted to your terminal's temporary
memory, but always leaves the highlighted text right where you found it.
Cmd-X - Cuts the highlighted text if you're in a typing area, such an
e-mail or newsgroup posting screen, or an HTML editor, or a form text
box. Cmd-X will not work on a received e-mail, a viewed newsgroup post,
or on a webpage you're viewing (you can use Cmd-C to copy the text,
though; see above).
Cmd-V - Pastes the previously copied or cut text, anywhere you would
have been able to type (into an e-mail or post writing screen, a webpage
editor, or a form text box).
In addition, when you're writing something yourself, you can highlight
from the cursor position "up" or "down" within the material you're
typing/editing by holding the Shift key and pressing an Arrow key.
Copying only a portion of a viewed webpage or post, or received mail,
requires the use of the Find key to create a highlight, which you can
then extend to cover everything you want to copy.
Note: If you're using a wired keyboard, you won't find a Cmd
keyâ€"the
equivalent of the Cmd key is the Microsoft/Windows key (looks kind of
like a flag with a cross on it). If you have an older keyboard without
the Microsoft/Windows key, use Ctrl-Alt together as your Cmd key
equivalent.
Learning to Use Cut, Copy, Paste
Try it out. Right now, place your cursor in the form below (it's
probably already there) and press Cmd-A to highlight all the text within
the text window. Then press Cmd-X to cut it; then Cmd-V to paste it back
againâ€"then Cmd-V again, to paste a second copy into the same
window.
While you still have the text temporarily stored in the "clipboard" of
your terminal's RAM memory, move the cursor down the the box below, and
use Cmd-V to paste the text into it.
If you're typing a document (e-mail, newsgroup post, text in a form, or
HTML code in an editor), you can select text for highlighting from the
current cursor location, by holding down the Shift key and using the
Right, Left, Up, or Down Arrow (to highlight a character at a time right
or left, or a line at a time up or down), or the Up or Down Scroll keys
(to highlight a screen's worth of text at a time, with each press of the
Scroll key). You can highlight all your writing by using Cmd-A.
Try it out. Put the cursor into the box below, and move the cursor to
the beginning of the text. Then, while holding down the Shift key, press
the Right Arrow key a few times to extend the highlight a letter at a
time rightward. Then, with Shift held down, press the Down Arrow twice
to extend the highlight downward. At any point, you would be able to use
Cmd-C to copy or Cmd-X to cut whatever you have highlighted.
Many times, you'll want to copy just part of an e-mail message,
newsgroup post, or webpage text, rather than "grabbing" the entire
thing. To select only the portion of the text you want to copy, use Find
and search for the word or phrase that appears at either the beginning
or end of the section you want to copy; that word or phrase will
automatically be highlighted. Then, while holding down the Shift key,
use the Arrow or Scroll keys to extend the highlight until the entire
section of text you want to copy is selectedâ€"then press Cmd-C to
copy
it. Once you've got it copied, go into your e-mail or newsgroup posting
screen (or webpage editor), and use Cmd-V to paste it. (You can still
highlight the entire page, or an area of the page (if there are frames
or a sidebar) for copying by pressing Cmd-A.)
Why not try it out, with this paragraph? Hit Find (or press Cmd-F) and
type in Why not then hit Return. That will highlight the first two words
of this paragraph; then while holding down the Shift key, press the down
key until you've highlighted the entire paragraph. Now, press Cmd-C to
copy the text.
Move the cursor into the box below, and press Cmd-V to paste the
paragraph of text into it.
Whatever is copied or cut will be stored in RAM memory, until you either
copy or cut something else, or power off the terminal or switch users.
Practice this all over the place until it becomes second nature. Go to a
newspaper site online, for instance, and use Find to select a paragraph
in an article, highlight the entire paragraph, use Cmd-C to copy it,
then go to Mail and paste the paragraph into a Write screen. Use this
feature to copy part of a received e-mail for inclusion with your
replyâ€"experiment.
How to "Fake" Quoted-Text Edit with C/C/P
Note: The following procedure to set text you're quoting indented and
smaller can only be done with text you've pasted into an e-mail or
newgroup post you're composing; you can't use this method on a webpage,
it doesn't work there.
Cut/copy/paste will let you "lift" text from almost anywhere you find it
with WebTV, but when you insert it into an e-mail or newsgroup post,
it'll look just like you typed it yourself.
Quoted-text edit is a way of making the quote indent and "smallify," and
it's done by breaking a paragraph into single lines of text with a hard
Return at the end (making them non-wrapping), and a > character before
the beginning of the text of each line. Many e-mail and newsreader
programs do this reformatting automatically, WebTV doesn't have this
feature at this point.
So you fake it, by inserting hard Returns after each line of text, and
placing a > before each.
First, you would copy a piece of text from a received mail, a newsgroup
post, or a webpage, as described above, using Find. Then you would paste
it into a Write screen (for either e-mail or newsgroup posting). Here's
a sample paragraph of text:
Welcome to GeoCities Advanced HTML Editor. You can use this form to
design your own customized HTML Page. We have developed a preview
capability so you can look at your page as it will actually appear on
the Web. Take a look at what other people have done to give you some
idea of the flexibility and power of our Home Page Editor.
In your mail Write or newsgroup Post screen, get your cursor in front of
the second line of text (the cursor location is indicated by the yellow
vertical bar in this example).
Welcome to GeoCities Advanced HTML Editor. You can use this |form to
design your own customized HTML Page. We have developed a preview
capability so you can look at your page as it will actually appear on
the Web. Take a look at what other people have done to give you some
idea of the flexibility and power of our Home Page Editor.
Then press Delete, then Returnâ€"this inserts a hard Return at the
end
of the first line.
Move down the left side of the paragraph, doing the same thing to place
a hard Return at the end of each line.
Now, go to the left end of the last line and type in a > character; do
this for each line, working to the top, until it looks like this:
>Welcome to GeoCities Advanced HTML Editor. You can use this
>form to design your own customized HTML Page. We have
>developed a preview capability so you can look at your page as it
>will actually appear on the Web. Take a look at what other people
>have done to give you some idea of the flexibility and power of our
>Home Page Editor.
Don't worry if putting in the > character makes the line you're adding
it to break to another line; when the message is sent or posted, the
breaks all go away automatically.
Make sure you hit Return twice any time you want to separate paragraphs
of indented text, or before and after the indented material (to keep
unindented material from getting "sucked in" to the quote).
The result with this particular quote would look something like this
using this method:
Welcome to GeoCities Advanced HTML Editor. You can use this form to
design your own customized HTML Page. We have developed a preview
capability so you can look at your page as it will actually appear on
the Web. Take a look at what other people have done to give you some
idea of the flexibility and power of our Home Page Editor.
Practice this by sending yourself tests in e-mail, you'll get it figured
out pretty quickly.
For a different approach to smallification, check out Don Rogers's page,
How to Fake Quoted Text Edit (smallifying).
Bones a Rattlin
have a puter and the webtv.
And your response is one of the best examples of why I prefer webtv over
the puter the people.
I smarted off to you, and you pointed out a few things. The purely
computer crowd needed to show their ass right up front.
Bones a Rattlin
A fairly well written childish tirade about formatting responses. Even
though I've seen them formatted several different ways on usenet.
Then he broke down into shouting conspiracy and I suspect is now on the
local water tower
hunting for ufos and feeling up his sister at the same time.
Remember SS, that's John Deere Green.
Simon
<8874-3AF...@storefull-621.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Deadly-...@webtv.net (Bones a Rattlin) shouted:
> Simple Simon wrote:
Simple Simon has been online for a looong time and knows the net
inside-out.
He therfore knows some highly interesting telnet stuff, where to find
the website you're looking for, how the internet works, the need for
convention, and how to format follow-ups on Usenet.
Perhaps "Simple Simon" is an uneducated observation?
--
Why bother phoning a psychic? Let them phone you!
The Revanchist
"Bones a Rattlin" <Deadly-...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Deadly-thought? Who exactly were you responding to?
Here's a Deadly-thought for you, bony: how about quoting what you're
answering; if you have more than just a webtv you'll understand that.
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Preferred User
"Jacques Duvall" <boy2...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Bones a Rattlin
without your precious quote.
Simon
<1829-3AF...@storefull-626.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Deadly-...@webtv.net (Bones a Rattlin) shouted:
> Sure you won't have any trouble figuring out who I'm talking about, even
> without your precious quote.
>
Ummm...
Seeing as the word "Geek" translates to "Teenager who will probably go
on to earn a big bunch of money due to obvious intelligence and
extensive knowledge of two-state machines and other hardware/software
devices, and tequniques for controlling said machines, whether through
commands, programs, or GUI" then I'd say you're talking about me.
And taking the word "Geek" to be a derogatory term used by the
intellectually challenged to describe those more intelligent than
themselves, I'd say you're talking about Cerb.
So you're talking about me and Cerb?
Well, is my logic up to scratch?
BTW, I dunno if you noticed, but that was a fresh thread. That kinda
means that there *were* no previous posts. RTM. And if you didn't
understand that, RTFM; it should be in there somewhere.
--
You can't scare me. I drive a school bus!
Panhead
>
> Sure you won't have any trouble figuring out who I'm talking about, even
> without your precious quote.
It appears that you admit to having, forging from, and/or are
using a "WebTV" device.
Therefore, it matters not what you and your ilk think, believe,
smell like, have sex with, drive, get incarcerated for, what your
lawn spells out even if you had a clue as to how to plant a
seed...let alone afford a place that HAD a lawn, get sued for, or
why the opposite or even the same species left you for a MUCH
lower life form for personal or interactive sexual gratification.
A diving dip into a cold bath of liquid nitrogen couldn't cure
your ills. Nor could it slow you down any more than your already
stunningly rock-hard stupidity shows, apparently.
When you master the art of communication with people that have
opposable thumbs, (and we know THAT will happen soon, right?
BWaaahahahahahaha!) have them you slice length wise, you
about-to-be-filleted fuck wit.
Phaethon
> Sure you won't have any trouble figuring out who I'm talking
about, even
> without your precious quote.
>
You're probably already killfiled, that means they likely
won't read your post.
I won't read your next one.
Rave at the moon.
<ploink>
--
Phaet KoB/CoT 948
"I wash my hands of those who imagine chattering to be
knowledge, silence to be ignorance, and affection to be art."
-Kahlil Gibran, "A Handful of Sand on the Shore"
Fyre
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