On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 16:08:20 +1100, Michael Christ
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michaelm...@outlook.com> wrote:
>On 1/02/2024 12:13 pm, James wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 10:20:41 +1100, Michael Christ
>> <
michaelm...@outlook.com> wrote:
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>>> Simple...
>>>
>>> James wrote:
>>>>>> Here it is again. (if you don't believe Jesus, who do you believe?)
>>>
>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> I don't believe you, my verse plucking genius.
>>>
>>>>> Why don't you believe me, you must believe the bible is book of fiction?
>>>
>>>>> :-). I've just done a Sinner James! :-).
>>>
>>> James wrote:
>>>> How you could deduce that, is beyond me.
>>>
>>> Exactly, now you know what I experience from you.
>>
>> What I give you are Bible truths and proving them when I can.
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>>>
>>> You are such a stubborn, blind, self-centred bastard, Sinner James.
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>> Yes I am "stubborn" for real Bible truths.
>> Yes, I am blind to most churches' false doctrines,
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>> Yes I am a sinner.
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>And what does that mean to you?
That I am imperfect, just like ALL of Adam's descendants. (that
includes you) As Job put it:
Job 14:4, "Who can bring what is pure from the impure? No one!" (NIV)
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>What, you just forgot to say thank you?
I don't say thank you to false forms of worship.
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>>> How can a man know he is saved right now?
>>>
>>> Or doesn't your grey-area religion allow for that?
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>> Jesus said that no person is saved right now. Instead Jesus said:
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>Jesus also said, whomever committeth sin is a servant of sin, Mr
>Revolving-door Harlotry. So, you can serve two masters, can you?
Again, you are misinterpreting Scripture.
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>Well?
God is the Creator. (Gen 1:1)
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>You have never walked in 1 John 1:8 by God's standards in all the time I
>have spoken with you, just like the others who just love to quote that.
>That is going to be a big surprise to you, and them, later.
Talk about surprises!! You won't believe your ears and eyes, at the
end. These are the only ones who will get eternal life:
-- New American Standard
1 John 2:17 The world is passing away, and {also} its lusts; but the
one who does the will of God lives forever.
My same question again. Where do we find out what "the will of God"
is?
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>A son of God has full assurance. You don't know what that is because
>you don't love God.
Another error! (:>(
For the man who loves god with all their heart,
>soul, and mind knows he will fight the good fight of faith till the very
>end because he is fully committed.
Millions of JW's are exactly that way.
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>There is no other course for him. You don't understand that.
I understand most of the Bible. It's you, I many times don't
understand!
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>> -- Revised Standard
>> Matthew 24:13 But he who endures to the end will be saved.
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>> 1 Cor 10:12 "Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed that he
>> does not fall." (NASB)
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>A son of God knows where he is, for the Lord is his all sufficiency.
>Verse plucking sinners in their sin state, not so much.
If the Bible is not the all inspired of God, Then why did Jesus quote
so much of it? Please answer.
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>Here you go, my little convenient sinner verse plucker...
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>1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to
>man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above
>that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to
>escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
OK.
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>A person is kept by the power of God who trusts in Him.
OK.
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>Do you believe that? Nope, you don't, because you still love the world
>and don't have faith in God, Sinner James. Not having faith in God is
>an abomination, but to you it is just a misdemeanour in your sinner
>religions.
Then, what religion do you belong to?? Please answer this time.
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>Here is someone who knows they love God hoping for you...
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>Heb_6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence
>to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
OK.
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>In full assurance to the very end, through genuine faith, not sinner
>strivings to be righteous.
It says "hope", not "faith.
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>The only person who is unsure is the unbeliever - the continuing
>faithless sinner - and they should be. The one who abides in the
>kingdom of sin should be sweating, but not the one who is in the Kingdom
>of God.
Is the Kingdom of God within you? (please answer)
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>> If you are forever saved, any "fall" would not have a great impact on
>> your future eternal life, thus why "take heed" over it?
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>You should be worried.
Everlasting life is not a guarantee for Christians.
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>Already explained for your viewing pleasure and sinful rejection,
>faithless sinner James.
What explained.
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>> But if a
>> "fall" could prevent a once 'saved' person from gaining eternal life,
>> then a Christian would want to really be careful not to "fall".
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>Oh yeah, you better be careful, real careful, Sinner James.
>Remember you
>are a constant sinner walking in faithlessness exchanging the truth for
>a lie at your sinner leisure.
Beep!! You only got 1 out of 3 again.
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>> 1 Cor 9:27, "No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I
>> have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the
>> prize." (NIV)
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>1Co 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one
>that beateth the air: "NOT AS FAILURE," "NOT AS UNCERTAINLY."
You have FAILED the Bible miserably. Thus you ignore Scriptures you do
not like, and quote Scriptures you do. That Michael, is hypocrisy.
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>> Paul shouldn't have to "beat" his body if he already has salvation
>> guaranteed. But if it is not guaranteed, he has to continually keep
>> his body a slave so that he will not be "disqualified" for the prize
>> of everlasting life.
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>Paul knows he will fight the good fight to the very end because He loves
>God with all his heart, soul, and mind. You don't understand that; no
>sinner understands that, and that is why is it impossible to get what I
>say through to you.
What you say a lot is false religion. And I don't want it to pass
THROUGH me.
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>Unfortunately, that is why I think all this going back and forward is
>for my edification only, unless the Lord chastens you and you repent.
>However, it appears you have already rejected God in your sin and the
>roots of your sinner Christianity are too deep in you.
You got it wrong again:
I reject your god, but truly love the God of the Bible. (Jehovah)
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>Henceforth, this is why you are forever seeking to justify yourself as a
>sinner, Buddy Sinner.
Actually, apply that to yourself.
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>That is whoredom plus! Adding insult to injury.
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>Disgusting.
Yes it is when you ignore lots of parts of the Bible.
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>> Thus Paul knew that salvation was not guaranteed at the time of first
>> belief. They had to continue to obey and follow Jesus' teachings.
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>Great conclusion extracted from a sinner's perfection doctrines! Sinner
>perfection is a wonderful thing! :-).
Know human on earth is perfect.
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>> So in conclusion, the BIBLE doesn't support 'once saved, always
>> saved'.
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>The bible doesn't support sin, Waffles! :-).
Again as my daughter would say: Duhhhhhhh.
> I'd get hung up on that if
>I was you!
Fortunately, you are not me.
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>You are just banging one of your clanging cymbals, like the legal
>Christmas about nothing crap. Law can't save you, and your religious
>bent even less! Your dogma of righteous sinner has nothing to do with God.
The "will of God" can save a person. We have God's word for it:
(1 John 2:17) Furthermore, the world is passing away and so is its
desire, but the one who does the will of God remains forever.
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>You are doing a great job of finding fault in them while being at fault
>in your own sin, Oh Righteous and Better Quality of Sinner.
I didn't find fault with anyone. God's written word does.
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>And all the nonsense you people go on with in your sinner doctrines and
>having to jump through all your theology hoops is simply because you
>refuse to love God with all your heart, soul, and mind.
Your wording reminds me of what Jesus said:
(Matthew 7:21-23) “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter
into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my
Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day:
‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in
your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then
I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you
workers of lawlessness!’
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>No wonder you are in a mess of trying to serve two masters.
I DO serve two masters: Jehovah God and Jesus Christ.
Sincerely James
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