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George Orwell

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Oct 6, 2007, 7:16:11 PM10/6/07
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I was thinking,

If the Muslims want Jerusalem,

Then surely it is logical for the Muslims to hand back Istanbul as a sign of good will?

Then the Christians can rename Istanbul back to its true name - Constantinople!!!

Maybe the Greeks could help annex Istanbul?

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Nah, lets just kill all the muslims before they launch more missiles
into Israel, before Iran gets any further with their nuke, and before
muslims use Saddam Hussein's WMD's on Israel.

Muslims don't want to make deals, they just want to kill and take
over.

Websites to watch about the rising tide of Islam:
http://www.nefafoundation.org/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.jihad-watch.org
http://www.faithfreedom.com

Ashura, Matam, Tatbeer: the bleeding head dance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqpNzlHCPIU

Cartoon protests:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kyNIevsIs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcyuaQ-DxEM

Al Smith

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Oct 6, 2007, 7:55:08 PM10/6/07
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> Muslims don't want to make deals, they just want to kill and take
> over.


Yet oddly enough, it is America and Israel that invade and occupy
other countries -- countries that have not ever threatened them in
any official manner. How can that be? Hey, here's an idea ... what
you read about evil Muslims is a pack of propaganda.

-Al-

Johnny

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Oct 6, 2007, 8:47:24 PM10/6/07
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"Al Smith" <inv...@address.com> wrote in message
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It may be an idea but it's really stupid idea. Israel had civilized the
entire land of Israel when Ishmael's decsendents lived in caves and ate
rats. Hey wait, Muslims STILL live in caves -- ask the Taliban!

>
> -Al-

B'enjamin C'ramer

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>
> "Al Smith" <inv...@address.com> wrote in message
> news:wfVNi.2756$%B2.2347@edtnps82...
>>> Muslims don't want to make deals, they just want to kill and take
>>> over.
>>
>>
>> Yet oddly enough, it is America and Israel that invade and occupy other
>> countries -- countries that have not ever threatened them in any official
>> manner. How can that be? Hey, here's an idea ... what you read about evil
>> Muslims is a pack of propaganda.
>
> It may be an idea but it's really stupid idea. Israel had civilized the
> entire land of Israel when Ishmael's decsendents lived in caves and ate
> rats.

A complete lie, of course. You're a yid, right?

Al Smith

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Oct 6, 2007, 9:24:47 PM10/6/07
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Your response has nothing to do with the point I raised. Which is
... it is America and Israel that are invading and occupying
foreign countries, not any of the Arab states, not Iran. It is the
United States and Israel that are taking over other countries by
military force. That is what is actually happening. That is the
reality.

Don't allow yourself to be distracted and misled by the rhetoric,
the spin, the propaganda, the talk, talk, talk. Look at what has
happened, and what is happening. Not what the henchmen in the
White House *tell* you is happening, but what is actually taking
place.

Once you separate the reality of actual events from the propaganda
fog coming out of Tel Aviv and Washington, you will understand
more clearly how you have been manipulated. To your leaders, you
are nothing but cannon fodder. They care *nothing* for your
opinions, your feelings, or your very life. Nothing.

-Al-

Topaz

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Oct 7, 2007, 3:11:02 PM10/7/07
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Tiptoeing around Our Problems
By Dr. William Pierce

"We've been talking about the very dangerous situation in the Middle
East recently, just because so much is happening there, and
undoubtedly we'll be talking about it much more in the future. For
that reason I want to make very clear what my motives and sympathies
are, lest I lead anyone astray and be thought a hypocrite for doing
so. First, regarding Palestine: although my sympathies definitely lie
with the Palestinians rather than with the Jews, it is not horror at
what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians that motivates me. What
motivates me is horror that my country is being used by the Jews in
their war against the Palestinians. If America were not involved at
all in the Middle East I still would sympathize with the Palestinians
and I would wish that they could be successful in driving the Jews
into the sea and annihilating the abomination that is Israel, but that
conflict between Jews and Palestinians would not be a major concern
for me. At least, my
concern there would be dwarfed by my concern for problems more
directly involving my own people in America and in Europe and in
southern Africa.

Even now, with money and weapons being supplied by America and used to
slaughter Palestinians, my concern is much less with monsters like
Ariel Sharon who are doing the slaughtering than it is with the filthy
creatures among my own people in America who are collaborating with
Jews here to keep the weapons and money flowing to Sharon -- and are
ready to do whatever else the Jews require of them here or abroad.

So when I tell you about Jews in occupied Palestine shooting
Palestinian children, and disapproval and anger are evident in my
voice, what I really am angry about is that the American people, my
people, are being used for this murderous activity. I am angry that
America's whole foreign policy has been perverted to serve Jewish
interests at the expense of American interests. I am angry that
America's political system has been perverted to ensure that we always
have so-called "leaders," whether Democrat or Republican, who are
dependent on the Jewish media or Jewish money or both for their
election and consequently will do the bidding of the Jews. I am angry
that our whole government is riddled with Jews -- Jews in our Defense
Department, Jews in our State
Department, Jews in our Immigration and Naturalization Service, Jews
in our Justice Department, Jews in the President's speech-writing
staff - who really set the policies of our government behind the
scenes, while the politicians are out front in the spotlight making
speeches and kissing babies - and doing as they're told by the Jews
behind the
scenes.

Did you know that it was a Jewish speechwriter, David Frum, who put
the phrase "axis of evil" in George Bush's mouth to justify America's
ongoing war against Israel's enemies? Did you know that a clique of
Jews in the Defense Department and among George Bush's foreign policy
advisers are the people actually running the so-called "war on terror"
in Afghanistan: a war that they intend to expand to Iraq and any other
Middle Eastern country that gets uppity, in order to make that part of
the world safe for Israel at American expense? Secretary of Defense
Donald Rumsfeld is a front man for his nominal subordinates, Deputy
Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and Deputy Undersecretary of
Defense for Policy Douglas Feith; and George Bush's official foreign
policy adviser, Condoleezza Rice, helps him meet his Black quota for
the Cabinet, but it is the Jew Richard Perle, chairman of Bush's
Defense Policy Board, who gives him his foreign policy directives.

As I've said on more than one occasion, George Bush is a feckless
nincompoop who couldn't come up with a defense policy or a foreign
policy on his own if he had to -- which is why he's President. The
real policymakers behind the scenes certainly don't want a man in the
White House who has ideas of his own, because those ideas might
conflict with theirs.

And it is nothing but empty sophistry to make a distinction between
Jews in Israel, such as Ariel Sharon and Simon Peres, and the Jews in
Mr. Bush's administration formulating his policies or the Jews
controlling our mass media. They all are Jews, and that's what really
matters.

There are many knowledgeable Americans besides me who think that it's
not a good thing to have Jews using America to advance Israel's
interests at the expense of America's interests. They know how the
system works: how the Jews exert their control through money and media
and a well-entrenched network of Jewish operatives, such as Wolfowitz
and Feith and Perle. And many of these knowledgeable Americans also
understand how Jewish subterfuge and deceit work: they understand that
the Jews throw up a lot of smoke to conceal their control and make it
appear that they have much less influence than they actually do.

Despite this degree of understanding that many knowledgeable Americans
have, there seem to be very few who are willing or able to draw the
necessary conclusions. What I keep seeing are comments about the need
to get the so-called "peace process" going again in the Middle East,
and how there are hardline supporters of Israel who are obstructing
the "peace process" because they think that it will give too much to
the Palestinians or will compromise Israel's security, or whatever.
These knowledgeable Americans seem to believe that if we could just
get around the Jewish hardliners somehow -- if we could just
neutralize Jews such as Wolfowitz and Feith and Perle; if Ariel Sharon
could be replaced by a "moderate" Jewish prime minister -- then the
"peace process" could proceed, America could gradually reduce its
involvement in helping the Jews keep the Palestinians repressed, and
eventually Israel no longer would be using America, and everything
would be rosy. And so these knowledgeable Americans expend all of
their wit and energy in these trivial pursuits.

Listen! Do you know what the most hopeful aspect of the conflict
between Jews and Palestinians is now? It is the ongoing radicalization
of the Muslim masses throughout the whole Middle East. The
collaborator governments in Pakistan, in Egypt, in Saudi Arabia are
terrified of the reaction they see among their own people to what
Ariel Sharon is doing to the Palestinians. When Sharon's Jewish troops
shoot Palestinian children, Muslim mobs riot, and governments that now
collaborate with the United States quake. Ariel Sharon is the best
thing that has happened in the Middle East in the last 54 years.

The Palestinian tactic of suicide bombing is being denounced by every
politician and every media spokesman over here now. It's nothing but
terrorism, they all say. There's no justification at all for suicide
bombing, they tell us. Of course, whenever you hear that sort of
unanimity from the politicians and the media people you should be
suspicious. In fact, suicide bombing is the best tactic for the
Palestinians to use now, because it provokes the Jews to step up
reprisals. And the reprisals radicalize the masses in every country in
the Middle East. If just one of the collaborator governments falls,
the spines of all the rest will be stiffened, and the Bush government
will be far less likely to find collaborators for building its
so-called "coalition" to do the will of the Jews in the Middle East.

Suicide bombers now hardly put a dent in the population of five
million Jews in occupied Palestine, and Sharon's bloody reprisals
hardly put a dent in the overall Palestinian population. But if
conflict of this sort continues until just one collaborator government
is overthrown, that ultimately will be worth more than ten thousand
successful suicide
bombings in which only 20 or so Jews are killed each time. In the long
run there can be no real peace in the Middle East and no end to
America's shameful role there -- and no future for the Palestinian
people -- as long as there is an Israel. There seems to be a better
understanding of these things among knowledgeable Palestinians than
among knowledgeable Americans.

Shallow thinking and the pursuit of trivial goals is even worse among
knowledgeable Americans when it comes to domestic problems. They
really do not want to grasp these problems with both hands and deal
with them in a forthright way. Look, for example, at what uncontrolled
immigration has done and is doing to America. And what do
knowledgeable Americans propose to do about that? Very little, really.
They make much of the fact that several of the al-Qaeda hijackers who
carried out the September 11 attack were in the United States only
because of very lax immigration policies, and so that's a good reason
for tightening up the policies.

How about simply rounding up all illegal aliens immediately -- all 12
million of them -- and booting them and all of their offspring out of
the country without further ado?

Oh, no, no, no! We can't do that! Why not? Well, the media never would
stand for it. The media would be all over anyone who even proposed a
mass expulsion of illegal aliens. They would denounce any political
leader who tried to do that as a "racist" and a "neo-Nazi." And so
knowledgeable Americans, who understand the immigration disaster quite
well, continue tiptoeing around it, afraid to do or even say anything
really significant about it: terrified even to think about really
radical solutions that might actually end the problem. And it's the
same with the rest of our domestic problems. Lots of people understand
these problems and are worried about them, but they won't tackle them
in any
significant way. They let the Jews -- the Jewish media and Jewish
money and the entrenched Jewish network -- have their way, for all
practical purposes.

Why? Why are the Jews permitted to get away with all of their
destructive policies and activities without being challenged or
opposed in any significant way? Part of the reason is that the Jews
are very powerful, and therefore many people are afraid to cross them.
They're afraid of the sort of media reaction I just mentioned in
connection with immigration. Everyone understands that the Jews stick
together and will viciously attack anyone who opposes them. It's the
old story, so aptly expressed by the late-16th-century writer, Sir
John Harington. Harington wrote: "Treason doth never prosper: what's
the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." Today the
Jewish power structure is
prospering, and none dare oppose it or even call it what it is. Well,
that's only part of the reason Jews are permitted to get away with so
much. There's more to it than that. There's a mystique the Jews have
built very carefully around themselves and nurtured diligently. It is
a mystique of piety and injured innocence. It is a mystique that says
to the Gentile world: "We are a gentle and inoffensive race, and
because of this everyone hates us. We're smart and we work hard and
achieve success, and because of this everyone hates us. We are a
highly moral and ethical race, and because of this everyone hates us.
We are a very talented race, with many gifted members, many geniuses,
and because of this everyone hates us. We are a very altruistic race,
a race of philanthropists who only want to make a better world for
everyone, and because of this everyone hates us."

Many simpletons among the lemmings simply accept these claims at face
value. Many knowledgeable people, however, who can see through these
claims to the real Jews hiding behind them, still hesitate to
challenge them. Part of the Jewish mystique is the so-called
"Holocaust." In its most simpleminded form the "Holocaust" story is
the claim that the
Germans hated the Jews for the reasons I just mentioned -- for their
gentleness and their success and their morality and their talent and
their altruism -- and because of this hatred roasted six million of
them during the Second World War in "gas ovens," to use one of the
Jews' favorite "Holocaust" phrases.

Actually, the "Holocaust" is a very powerful part of the Jewish
mystique. The Jews crafted the "Holocaust" story with great care and
great effort -- well, actually not with as much care as they might
have used: it's as full of holes as a Swiss cheese, but still it is
sufficient to make most people, even those who understand what Jews
are really like, hesitate to attack them. People don't want to be seen
as bullies. They don't want to be seen as so insensitive that they
would criticize the Jews, who already have suffered so much, poor
dears, at the hands of anti-Semites.

In several past broadcasts we've looked at a number of the lies and
exaggerations and distortions that make up the "Holocaust" story.
There are a number of good books available on the subject from the
sponsor of this broadcast, National Vanguard Books, including Norman
Finklestein's excellent book The Holocaust Industry, which I discussed
in an earlier broadcast. The point is that despite the lies, despite
the fact that many knowledgeable Americans are aware of the lies, the
"Holocaust" still serves its purpose for the Jews. People are afraid
of the image conjured up by the "Holocaust."

Perhaps it's that American life is too soft... Whatever the reason,
many otherwise knowledgeable and hardheaded Americans just can't
entertain the idea of rounding up the Jews and getting rid of them,
even when the situation is as urgent as it is in America today. And
really, in the long run that is the only way to solve the Jewish
problem.

The Germans understood that, back in the 1930s, and they had the
courage and the foresight to act on their understanding. Unlike
Americans today, they had an honest government concerned above all
with the survival, welfare, and progress of the German people, and
they began doing what was necessary, forcing the Jews to emigrate
wholesale from Germany beginning in 1933. And because of that the
Jewish propaganda machine has attacked the Germans so viciously, has
so blackened and demonized their image, that today even knowledgeable
people are afraid to be associated with that image. They are afraid to
say that the Germans were right, that the Germans were justified, and
that we need to do the same if we are to survive. So, as I said, the
"Holocaust" story, despite its
glaring discrepancies and lies, still serves as a shield for the Jews;
it still protects them from criticism.

Well, mostly. In parts of Europe not quite as poisoned by Jewish
propaganda as America is, the shield has slipped a bit. A large
British department store chain, Selfridges, has yielded to demands
from anti-Israel demonstrators and has removed from its shelves
products marked "Made in Israel." Last week the second largest
supermarket chain in Norway, Coop Norge -- which is to say, Norway
Coop, announced its decision to boycott all Israeli imports. That
decision was not the result of pressure from anti-Israel demonstrators
but was based on the feeling by Coop Norge management that it would be
immoral to continue supporting the Israeli economy by selling Israeli
imports under the
present circumstances. That is a step forward, though it is a long way
from what is needed.

The Jews, of course, immediately began waving their "Holocaust" story
around, and now, as the boycott movement catches hold in Scandinavia,
they are trying to portray themselves as injured innocents being
attacked once more by "anti-Semites." They are comparing the growing
Scandinavian boycott of Israeli products to the German boycott of
Jewish merchants in the late 1930s. Certainly, a boycott of Israeli
products is a good thing, and the fact that such a boycott is even
thinkable by big businessmen today is a sign that the Jewish mystique
-- and in particular the Jewish "Holocaust" story -- is becoming a bit
shopworn. It no longer has the hypnotic power that it once had -- at
least, in some parts of the world. And I suppose that we should be
happy about that. The unfortunate fact remains, however, that in
America the Jews still have their money and
their media and their entrenched network of bureaucrats, and even if
the "Holocaust" story has lost some of its charm in Europe, it still
keeps most knowledgeable Americans intimidated.

Knowledge isn't enough. Courage and boldness also are necessary.
Honesty and forthrightness are necessary also. Tiptoeing around the
critical issues of our time isn't enough. Tiny reforms in our
disastrous foreign policy and in our disastrous immigration policy and
in a dozen other disastrous policies aren't enough. We need to stop
apologizing to the people who are destroying us and go full bore at
destroying them instead.

Instead of being hypnotized by the "Holocaust" story we need to look
with clear eyes at why there was a need for action against the Jews in
Germany in the 1930s and 1940s. The Jews' claim today that the Germans
were suffering from collective insanity and had no reason for trying
to get the Jews off their backs is as phony as George Bush's claim
that
Osama bin Laden had no reason for attacking America on September 11.

Wherever Jews go they corrupt and destroy. That is their nature,
always and everywhere. Let us be thankful to the Palestinians who now
are making such terrible sacrifices to help the world see what the
Jews are like. And I suppose we also should be thankful to Ariel
Sharon for demonstrating so forthrightly to the world what Jews are
like.

Let us hope that the conflict between Jews and Palestinians
intensifies and lasts long enough to wake up many more of our people
around the world and fill them with disgust at America's continuing
support for the Jews. Let us hope that it lasts long enough to bring
about the overthrow of every collaborationist regime in the Muslim
world. Let us hope that it brings about an airtight oil embargo
against the United States and shuts off the lights in every shopping
mall and every sports stadium in America long enough for the lemmings
to become restless and begin asking questions. Let us hope that it
makes the efforts of every fool and every traitor who is striving for
a resumption of the so-called "peace process" so obviously futile that
these efforts no longer have the power to deceive anyone.

Ultimately, of course, we must not depend on the Palestinian suicide
bombers or on Ariel Sharon's murder squads to do for us what we should
be doing for ourselves. Ultimately we must stop tiptoeing and begin
marching boldly and forthrightly toward solving our own problems."


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Johnny

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"Al Smith" <inv...@address.com> wrote in message
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Israel is reoccupying the country they created thousands of years ago.

America is just making the world safe for democracy and destroying
tyranny -- which is of course a form of self-defense.

Al Smith

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>> Once you separate the reality of actual events from the propaganda fog
>> > coming out of Tel Aviv and Washington, you will understand more clearly
>> > how you have been manipulated. To your leaders, you are nothing but cannon
>> > fodder. They care *nothing* for your opinions, your feelings, or your very
>> > life. Nothing.
>> >
>> > -Al-
>
> Israel is reoccupying the country they created thousands of years ago.
>
> America is just making the world safe for democracy and destroying
> tyranny -- which is of course a form of self-defense.
>
>
>

I don't know whether to hope that you do *not* believe this, or to
hope that you *do* believe it.

If you do not believe it, you are a deceiver and propagandist,
since you are asserting things you know to be false.

On the other hand, if you actually believe what you have written,
you are detached from reality, and hopelessly naive.

On the off-chance that you actually believe what you wrote, I
suggest that you take steps to inform yourself of what is really
happening in the world.

America is not "making the world safe for democracy" -- it invaded
and occupied two countries in the Middle East for its own crass
purposes, because its leaders believed that there was political
and economic advantage in doing so. The "tyranny" in Iraq was
imposed by George W. Bush. There is no need for "self-defense"
from Iraq because Iraq under Saddam had no power to harm America,
or American interests, in any significant way ... and no intention
of even trying to do so.

Really, do some studying of current events, open your mind, and
learn something.

-Al-

B'enjamin C'ramer

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"Johnny" <j...@km.com> wrote in message news:HCaOi.26$mo6...@newsfe03.lga...

Horseshit.


>
> America is just making the world safe for democracy and destroying
> tyranny -- which is of course a form of self-defense.

More horseshit. The world is infinitely a more dangerous place since the
stupid yanks bowed to yid pressure and engaged Iraq.

You're a fucking loon, laddie.
>
>
>

jgarbuz

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>
> Tiptoeing around Our Problems
> By Dr. William Pierce
>
> "We've been talking about the very dangerous situation in the Middle
> East recently, just because so much is happening there, and
> undoubtedly we'll be talking about it much more in the future. For
> that reason I want to make very clear what my motives and sympathies
> are, lest I lead anyone astray and be thought a hypocrite for doing
> so. First, regarding Palestine: although my sympathies definitely lie
> with the Palestinians rather than with the Jews, it is not horror at
> what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians that motivates me. What
> motivates me is horror that my country is being used by the Jews in
> their war against the Palestinians. <

The JEws did make a mistake in 1948. Instead of letting 700,000 Arabs run
away to fight another day, the JEws should have built gas chambers and
brought crematoria to Israel from Germany and Poland, and exterminated the
Arab vermin once and for all. Coming right after the Holocaust, the world
would have "understood" the Jews having the right to exterminate those who
would block the Jews from having their own homeland back

>If America were not involved at
> all in the Middle East I still would sympathize with the Palestinians<

Of course you would, just as you sympathized with the Nazis, or anyone who
kills Jews. But I am angry at my people for not doing the same as they would
do unto us. After all, the prophet Samuel ordered Saul to EXTERMINATE
COMPLETELY the Amalekites, but because Saul was too kind hearted to obey,
Amalek remains to this day, and David replaced Saul as king.

> and I would wish that they could be successful in driving the Jews
> into the sea and annihilating the abomination that is Israel, but that
> conflict between Jews and Palestinians would not be a major concern
> for me. At least, my
> concern there would be dwarfed by my concern for problems more
> directly involving my own people in America and in Europe and in
> southern Africa.
>
> Even now, with money and weapons being supplied by America and used to
> slaughter Palestinians, my concern is much less with monsters like
> Ariel Sharon who are doing the slaughtering than it is with the filthy
> creatures among my own people in America who are collaborating with
> Jews here to keep the weapons and money flowing to Sharon -- and are
> ready to do whatever else the Jews require of them here or abroad.<

If the US did not sell much larger amounts of arms to Egypt, Saudi Arabia,
and other Muslim enemies of Israel, and if Russia, France and others didn't
do the same, ISrael wouldn't need a fucking penny of US aid. Israel's own
domestic arms industry is powerful enough were it not for all the arms the
Arabs and Iraniains get from Russia, the US, France, the UK and China.
The US bribes Israel with $3 billion in arms aid SO THAT it can be free from
AIPAC interference to sell nearly three times that amount to the other Arab
states. And were it not for Israel's own arms industry capable of selling
sophisiticated arms to China, the US would not care. But Israel is strong
enough on its own, and the US defense industry fears Israeli sales
competition. The aid puts a leash on Israel. It hurts Israel more than it
helps. It helps corrupt Israeli contractors and politicians.

> So when I tell you about Jews in occupied Palestine shooting
> Palestinian children, and disapproval and anger are evident in my
> voice, what I really am angry about is that the American people, my
> people, are being used for this murderous activity. I am angry that
> America's whole foreign policy has been perverted to serve Jewish
> interests at the expense of American interests. I am angry that
> America's political system has been perverted to ensure that we always
> have so-called "leaders," whether Democrat or Republican, who are
> dependent on the Jewish media or Jewish money or both for their
> election and consequently will do the bidding of the Jews. I am angry
> that our whole government is riddled with Jews -- Jews in our Defense
> Department, Jews in our State
> Department, Jews in our Immigration and Naturalization Service, Jews
> in our Justice Department, Jews in the President's speech-writing
> staff - who really set the policies of our government behind the
> scenes, while the politicians are out front in the spotlight making
> speeches and kissing babies - and doing as they're told by the Jews
> behind the

> scenes.<\

Write letters to Boeing and ask them if they want aid to Israel cut off.
Write any US congressman. No, they don't want to lose lucrative defense
jobs in their district, or close down the F-15 line. If the US cuts off aid
to Israel, it will have to cut off aid to Egypt as well, and radically
reduce arms sales to Saudi Arabia and other Arab states at war with Israel.
They don't want to go back to the old days of the arms embargo on both
sides, when they could not sell to either Israel or the Arab states. I
personally don't care if the US cuts off aid to Israel, because Israel has
plenty of its own domstic technology to sell to China, or if China don't
want it, to Taiwan. Or to Poland. The US in the past has forced Israel to
cut back on sales of arms to Taiwan, Ecuador, China and Poland and others,
because of one excuse or another. In 1974 the US nixed a sale of Kfirs to
Ecuador, on the excuse of "human rights." Then it nixed a sale to Taiwan,
because the US wanted to improve relations with China. Then, in 1999. it
nixed a sale of Israeli AWACs to China, on the excuse it might harm the US
in any future conflict. Then Beong stopped an Israeli sale of helicopter
equipment to Poland, because...well, just because it wanted to sell Apaches
to Poland instead. And Poland wanted to become a member of NATO, and so
Israeli defense contractors were frozen out. And so on.

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Mohammed Loves His 6 Year Old Wife Aisha

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On Oct 7, 3:40 pm, "Johnny" <j...@km.com> wrote:
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Exactly. And remember, it was the United Nations that gave Israel to
the Jews in 1948. The very next day, 6 Muslim nations attacked
Israel, and Israel beat them all!

I think it is pretty obvious who God's favorites are.

And Satan loves his Muslim followers.

Mohammed Loves His 6 Year Old Wife Aisha

ISLAM = Inferior Satan Lures Armies Mid-east
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*Websites to watch about the rising tide of Islam:
http://www.MEMRI.org
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.frontpagemag.com
http://www.jihadwatch.org
http://www.worldnetdaily.com
http://www.nefafoundation.org
http://www.faithfreedom.org

*Movies about Islamic murder and their agenda of global conquest:
http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/
http://www.suicidekillers.com/
http://www.whatthewestneedstoknow.com/

*TV shows to watch focused on middle-east and world politics:
http://www.glennbeck.com/
http://www.jvim.com/

*Glenn Beck - Exposed: The Extremist Agenda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ_Fc6jmIUI

*History of the Middle East:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20GIzKcar5Y
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/what-really-happened/

*Islam's methods of politics, propaganda and lawsuits:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32HTh3gO4fg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEeRY_07EzY

*Islam's bleeding head dance, aka Ashura, Tatbeer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqpNzlHCPIU

*Cartoons about Islam:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/danish_muslim_cartoons

*Muslim's death chants while protesting the Mohammad cartoon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kyNIevsIs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcyuaQ-DxEM

*Islamic terrorist attacks (this list is still growing):
+Bombay (now known as Mumbai), India 3/12/93, 260 dead & 700+
wounded:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Bombay_bombings
+America 9/11/01, 3000+ dead:
http://www.september11news.com/
+Bali, Indonesia 10/12/02, 202 dead & 100+ wounded:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/ops/bali.htm
+Madrid, Spain 3/11/04, 191 dead and 1800+ injured:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2004/madrid.bombing/
+Beslan school, Russia 9/2/04 - 9/4/04, 350+ dead & 700+ wounded:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58381-2004Sep3.html
+London, England 7/7/05, 56 dead & 700 wounded:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/uk/05/london_blasts/html/default.stm
+Bali, Indonesia 10/02/05, 19 dead & 132+ injured:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/10/02/bali.blasts/index.html
+Mumbai, India 7/11/06, 200 dead & 700 wounded:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10958641/

*Quotes from Islamic scripture, commanding murder:
Qur'an, 8:12 "Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you.
Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts
of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all
their fingertips off of them."
Qur'an, 8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief
[non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the
whole world)."
Qur'an, 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them,
take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using
every stratagem of war."
Qur'an, 47:4 "When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war],
chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your
prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them
until the war is ended."


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Oct 9, 2007, 10:36:38 PM10/9/07
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On Oct 7, 7:48 am, Mohammed Loves His 6 Year Old Wife Aisha

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> On Oct 6, 7:16 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
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> > I was thinking,
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> > If the Muslims want Jerusalem,
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> > Then surely it is logical for the Muslims to hand back Istanbul as a sign of good will?
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> > Then the Christians can rename Istanbul back to its true name - Constantinople!!!
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> > Maybe the Greeks could help annex Istanbul?
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> > Opinions?
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> Nah, lets just kill all the muslims before they launch more missiles
> into Israel, before Iran gets any further with their nuke, and before
> muslims use Saddam Hussein's WMD's on Israel.
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> Muslims don't want to make deals, they just want to kill and take
> over.
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> Websites to watch about the rising tide of Islam:http://www.nefafoundation.org/http://www.thereligionofpeace.comhttp://www.jihad-watch.orghttp://www.faithfreedom.com

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> Ashura, Matam, Tatbeer: the bleeding head dance:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqpNzlHCPIU
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Dear all,
I know that the Holy Bible is true because it has genealogy
for all to trace the prophet's ancestry like Jesus.
If the prophet's ancestry can be traced back to the first father
of his race, for example, Jesus' race is Israelite of the tribe
of Judah, then we can be sure that the family background
of the prophet is genuine.
It is important for a Holy Book of The True Allah to provide
genealogy for all to ascertain the prophet's family background
because if a prophet who claimed falsely, such false prophet
would be found out easily to be lying as such 'Holy Book' would
not provide genealogy as no men could name his ancestry from
Adam onwards since ONLY THE TRUE HOLY BOOK LIKE THE
BIBLE CAN HAVE GENEALOGY FOR VERIFICATION OF
ITS TRUTH as the Holy Book is from God!

If one is not careful to verify the ancestry of a prophet,
one might believe the son of a prostitute
as the LAST MESSENGER OF ALLAH given the fact that
all prostitutes tell their children their fathers are dead to hide
the shame of their profession.

Take the Quran for example, it has no genealogy that lists
the ancestry of all its prophets who happen to be all
Hebrew, Jews and Christians and none Arabic. How untrue!
One can only use the Holy Book to verify ancestry as Holy
Book is written by God and one must not use any other books
as all books are written by men and thus not good enough
for verifying the truth.

Mohammed who claimed to be the Last Prophet of Allah
could not have his ancestry traced as there is no genealogy
in the Quran. Arabic Muslims trace their ancestry through a
family kept book of 4 generation. Such books are not good
enough to trace to the first father of their race-Arabic as
all books are written by men.

Mohammed was informed by his mother, Aminah, that his
father was dead before he was born. Hence, Mohammed
really did not know his father, not only his father, but his
grandfather and forefathers were not mentioned in the Quran
for the Quran has no genealogy that lists the ancestry of
Mohammed, the false lying prophet.

To make matter worse, Mohammed not only claim to be an
Arab, he also claimed to be a Hebrew being a descendant
of Ishmael, a son of Abraham whose father Abraham is the
Father of all Hebrews. One wonder how Mohammed could
have 2 biological fathers to be of 2 ethnic races -
of Hebrew AND of Arab?

Hence, it is wise for all to verify anyone who claimed to be
the Last Messenger before one believes in his God otherwise
one may believe in a false prophet lying about his god!

Amen in Christ Jesus.

Mohammed Loves His 6 Year Old Wife Aisha

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Oct 9, 2007, 10:37:18 PM10/9/07
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It is you Al who is spreading propaganda. Saddam DID make WMD's and
they went to Syria in 2003 when the US invasion was about to start.
Saddam DID have ties to al Qaeda. Maybe you should try opening your
mind, reading some books that establish provable facts, and learn
something.

And yes, Saddam should have been removed from power in 1991. No
argument from me.

Mohammed Loves His 6 Year Old Wife Aisha

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Oct 9, 2007, 10:39:52 PM10/9/07
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On Oct 9, 1:13 pm, "jgarbuz" <jgar...@netzero.com> wrote:
> "Topaz" <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Love you jgarbuz. Awesome comeback. This putz is part of the Muslim
agenda to spread propaganda.

Mohammed Loves His 6 Year Old Wife Aisha

ISLAM = Inferior Satan Lures Armies Mid-east

Topaz

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Oct 10, 2007, 5:31:21 PM10/10/07
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FACT: The Jews have been expelled from almost every Western country at
one time or another, including Britain, Spain, France, Portugal and
Germany.

FACT: Virtually all the major media outlets, including TV networks,
newspapers, movie studios and book publishers, are owned or controlled
by Jews.

FACT: The major media incessantly harps on any white-on-black crime
(such as the Jasper TX dragging), yet ignores the much greater number
of black- on-white crimes which are equally horrific yet happen FAR
MORE FREQUENTLY.

FACT: Communism was a largely-Jewish phenomenon. Almost all the top
communists of the Russian Revolution were Jews, as well as almost all
the atomic spies, and the Revolution was financed in large measure by
Wall Street Jews.

FACT: In the late 1920s the Communist Party USA decided on a policy of
destroying American society by pushing 'racial equality'.

FACT: The NAACP was founded principally by Jews, and Jews remained in
charge of the organization till 1970.

FACT: Most of the 'Orthodox Jewish version' of the Holocaust is false,
(and in fact is significantly based on 'confessions' of Germans at the
Nuremberg Military Tribunal obtained under torture), and numerous
Jewish scholars have actually acknowledged this. (The stories
acknowledged by Jewish scholars to be false include the existence of
homicidal gas chambers, the use of Jewish skin for lampshade coverings
and Jewish body fat for soap, and the assertion that there were 'Six
Million' Jews killed by the nazis.) But questioning these
widely-believed but false stories is illegal in most countries of the
Western world, and 8,000 people are in jail in Germany alone for
questioning these and similar dogmas. Can you figure out what powerful
international ethnic group was responsible for causing these laws to
be passed?

FACT: Sympathy and guilt for the (largely false) story of the
Holocaust has resulted in the payment of close to a hundred billion
dollars to Israel by the German government. Furthermore, Jews
everywhere continue to use the Holocaust as a tool for extracting
money from gentiles, whether thru the movies (more than 400 have been
made on this subject), Holocaust museums, 'reparations' (more than a
billion from the Swiss, billions from German companies, etc) and the
like. There is a saying widely used among Jews which goes, "There's no
business like Shoah [Holocaust] business." Can you figure out why the
Jewish establishment has been so eager to suppress questioning of the
Holocau$$$t dogma?

FACT: Israel is the only 'Western' country to legally sanction
torture, and the Israeli Defense Forces use bone-breaking and
shoot-to-maim policies against Palestinians, and even reporters.

FACT: Jewish political influence has been the principal force
attempting to nullify our Constitution, and particularly the freedoms
enjoyed under the Bill of Rights. For example, Jews have been the
major force behind 'gun control' (ie, the attempt to nullify the
Second Amendment), integration and affirmative action (to nullify
freedom of association), 'hate crimes' (laying the foundation for
suppressing freedom of speech), immigration (introducing large numbers
of unassimilable nonwhites which will effectively destroy American
culture and ideals), anti-militia statutes and similar efforts.

Source
http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Lbl/Lbl-VitalFactsYouNeedToKnow.html

Topaz

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Oct 10, 2007, 5:35:04 PM10/10/07
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The genealogies of Jesus given in Matthew and Luke do not agree,
they give a different number of generations, and both trace his
lineage through Joseph although Jesus was not supposed to be Joseph's
son.

Judeo Christians think it is the "end times" even though it has been
the "end times" for over two thousand years so far. They think the one
and only hope is for Jesus to return and straighten everything out.
And a big part of the plan is the destroy the world. They think wars
and everything being blown up is a great thing because it means Jesus
will return soon.

Marxists were murderous lowlifes but they said religion is the opium
of the people. There obviously is some truth to that. Enemies often
have some truth in their arguments. On top of the opium there is the
Jewish propaganda started by Scofield.

Christians are great for telling what some of the problems are, such
as homosexual perversion, feminism etc. But to actually solve these
problems one should look elsewhere. Who do Christians hate the most,
first Hitler and then the Muslims. These are the two who actually
solved the problems that Christians are famous for speaking against.
Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
in a Muslim country.

Lee

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"George Orwell" <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
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There is evidence that some Muslim countries have been rabidly anti-Semitic
since at least as far back as WW2 so territorial changes would be likely to
make any difference.

If you could get some other culture, anyone from Eskimos to Maoris to do a
population swap with Israel things may calm down at least for a while but
given the apparent xenophobic nature of Islam this would only be a temporary
respite.

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