BN Books & Cat Y (was Re: Hoodoo Book (was: Thelemic Satanism?)
Caliban
<c...@luckymojo.com> wrote:
>Kevin Filan wrote:
>>
>> ObBitch at Cat: Cat, WHEN are you going to get your book
>> distributed in Borders or Barnes & Noble? Right now the only
>> Hoodoo book at my local Borders is Ray Marlborough's "Hoodoo
>> Mysteries" ... a volume which is, frankly, horrid. (I'd use
>> it to line my birdcage, but my parrot would probably get
>> constipated if he had to look at Ray's assaults on scholarship
>> and the English language). I've seen excerpts from your work,
>> and it's infinitely better than that piece of crapola.
>
>I tried to get my "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic" book
>distributed at BN back in August of 2002. I filled out
>forms, sent them a sample, never heard back. Did it a second
>time. Never heard back. Borders is notorious for their
>flexible payment schedule which i'd just as soon avoid. The
>book is available online from me, from Amazon, and from
>Original Publications, which is a distributor to occult
>shops nationwide. If you know anyone at BN who is human,
>i'll try again.
>
>cat yronwode
Gee, they purchased our book, as did Borders, but of course it's
published by a legitimate house who has relationships with the BN
buyers. Maybe they prefer not to stock their shelves with
self-published authors like you.
Caliban
Mohos...@yahoo.com
-------------------------------------------
"A bitter heart that bides its time and bites."
- Caliban in Robert Browning's "Caliban upon Setebos"
Hope Munro Smith
Caliban <Cal...@nospam.com> wrote:
What is the name of your book?
Caliban
The Yronwodes, with their various attempts at invading our privacy,
have resulted in our giving that information to only a handfull of
ARW regulars, I'm afraid.
Hope Munro Smith
Caliban <Cal...@nospam.com> wrote:
That's cool. I'm short of cash now anyway!
Jani
"Caliban" <Cal...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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But it *is* a real book, it *is* published, and stands on its own merits for
those who are interested in the subject matter. Cal and Lilly aren't
particularly interested in flogging to the mass market, as the Yronwodes
seem to be.
Jani
Caliban
wrote:
Thanks, Jani. I couldn't resist poking some fun at CatY over this. I
hope you don't mind. :p
Caliban
<c...@luckymojo.com> wrote:
>I have been in the publishing business so long that the term
>"self-published" hardly seems apt when applied to me,
>especially since i was for many years the co-owner of a
>publishing house that produced well over a thousand
>magazines and hundreds of books in both paperback and
>hardcover editions. In other words, i have published the
>works of many, many authors, myself included.
>
>When i divorced, ten years ago, i traded in my shares of the
>publishing house i co-owned to my ex-husband, in exchange
>for his share of the house we co-owned. The next two books i
>wrote were for other publishers (one of them was
>ghost-written and i am contractually obligated to not reveal
>who it was written for; suffice to say it was in another
>field, not occultism). With my third book subsequent to the
>divorce and loss of the publishing company i had co-owned, i
>decided to start a new publishing house to handle my own
>books, rather than take the material to a larger house where
>i had been told it would be welcome. In doing this, i was
>well aware that there were benefits and drawbacks to
>whichever choice i made.
>
>Benefit: In addition to being a writer, i happen to be a
>professional typesetter and graphic designer with decades of
>experience, so producing a book to high professional
>standards is ... well, easy for me. In fact, i find design
>work relaxing and i would rather do it myself than have it
>done for me by a freelancer or a publisher's staff designer.
>
>Benefit: I knew that by starting another small publishing
>house of my own, i would reap a larger financial reward,
>both short term and long term, than i would have gotten as
>an author at a larger house, because there are no
>typesetting, design, or publishing staff personnel to pay.
>All the profits go directly into my own bank account; i do
>not have to wait for quarterly royalty payments -- or to
>trust anyone else's bookkeeping.
>
>Benefit: There is a modicum of aesthetic egoism involved in
>owning one's own publishing house. Over the years i have
>owned or co-owned several imprints (Eclipse, Cohan and
>Cohen, Alibek the Egyptian, Durga-Siva Augury Co., etc.),
>and i have always enjoyed seeing the name of the house
>appearing on the title page, under the author's -- so it was
>quite to my liking to have "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic"
>published by Lucky Mojo.
>
>Drawback: I knew that without a line of at least six titles,
>some distributors would not handle my first few books.
>However, i planned to publish at least six titles and i also
>knew that all would be staying in print for my lifetime at
>least, and thus i was confident that eventually i would have
>a line large enough to interest any distributor.
>
>Drawback: I knew that my extremely limited interest in
>spending time on promotion and advertising would tend to
>restrict wholesale sales to distributors who knew me or who
>had an open-door policy with new publishers, and would
>restrict retail sales to people who heard about the book
>through the internet rather than as walk-in traffic at book stores.
>
>Benefit: Although sales are slower when almost all copies
>are sold on an individual retail basis (that is, when few
>copies are being sold wholesale through distributors), the
>profits are almost double on each retail copy sold. This
>extra profit is in *addition* to the profit one makes by not
>allowing a publisher to take a cut. Thus, with the power of
>internet sales behind one, it can be more profitable to
>avoid selling wholesale to places like BN and Borders, if
>the same number of sales -- or even almost HALF the same
>number of sales -- can be made retail.
>
>Outcome: I printed 3,000 copies in softcover and 500 in
>clothbound hardcover, and expected them to sell out in three
>years, which is a reasonable sales volume for a non-fiction
>book on a fairly obscure subject. So far the books are
>selling out far ahead of schedule. There are less than 50
>hardcovers left, and about 1,000 paperbacks. The profits
>from publishing are such that i have made my return on the
>investment and am now setting aside money for reprinting --
>and for publishing a second book. I expect that within the
>next ten years i will publish at least a half dozen more
>books.
>
>So you see, Caliban, if you are one of those rare
>individuals who happily combines writing talent, design
>talent, typesetting skills, bindery and press knowledge,
>publishing knowledge, and entrepreneurial ego in one body,
>you too could be an author and a publisher. As it is, you
>must rely on someone else to haul your water for you.
Boy, that was a lot of defensive rationalization. All I said was I'm
there and you're not. Did I touch a nerve?
I guess I did.
Laughingly (at your expense, but you can afford it - right?),
Caliban
>
>Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.
>
>cat yronwode
>
>Herb and Root Magic --- http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooherbmagic.html
Dagon Productions
Caliban wrote:
I'd say Cat put forth a reasonable argument for self-publishing.
B&Ns, Amazon, etc, IMHO, are the Walmarts of book selling.
Not much to be proud of there. Is the Home Shopping Network next for you?
-Douglas
--
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Dagon Productions
Chaos Magick & Occult books
http://www.dagonproductions.com
in...@dagonproductions.com
Caliban
Why would it be? We're not self-promoters like you and Cat. Do you see
a website on my sig? No. Do I see one on yours and Cat's? Of course I
do.
Case-fucking-closed.
Now be a good little boy and go practice writing your S&M/Satan
rituals. Based on what I've read at your website, they need some
serious work.
C
>
>-Douglas
Rhyanon
> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 04:48:11 GMT, catherine yronwode
>
> Gee, they purchased our book, as did Borders, but of course it's
> published by a legitimate house who has relationships with the BN
> buyers. Maybe they prefer not to stock their shelves with
> self-published authors like you.
>
HA - ha!! Or at least, not ones as talentless and transparent as she.
Rhyanon
yer hitched up to a LOOOOZZZZZZZAH! hehehehehehe!! [season's sneeeeeerings]
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--
"There's this song in praise of full moons in general", said Magrat." And
then we have to raise our consciousness.It really ought to be full moon for
that, I'm afraid. Moons are very important." Granny gave her a long,
calculating look. "That's modern witchcraft for you, is it?" she said. "Each
to her own, but I'm blowed if *I'll* let a ball of shiny rock tell *me* what
to do." "Yes, bugger all that," said Nanny. "Let's curse somebody!"
"Dagon Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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<snip bitter defensive, catshite>
Dagon Productions
Caliban wrote:
>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:03:15 GMT, Dagon Productions
><da...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Caliban wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:42:43 GMT, catherine yronwode
>>><c...@luckymojo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Caliban wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Snipped"
>>>>
>>>>So you see, Caliban, if you are one of those rare
>>>>individuals who happily combines writing talent, design
>>>>talent, typesetting skills, bindery and press knowledge,
>>>>publishing knowledge, and entrepreneurial ego in one body,
>>>>you too could be an author and a publisher. As it is, you
>>>>must rely on someone else to haul your water for you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Boy, that was a lot of defensive rationalization. All I said was I'm
>>>there and you're not. Did I touch a nerve?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I'd say Cat put forth a reasonable argument for self-publishing.
>>
>>B&Ns, Amazon, etc, IMHO, are the Walmarts of book selling.
>>Not much to be proud of there. Is the Home Shopping Network next for you?
>>
>>
>
>Why would it be? We're not self-promoters like you and Cat. Do you see
>a website on my sig? No. Do I see one on yours and Cat's? Of course I
>do.
>
>Case-fucking-closed.
>
Not quite boy. Every business/author self-promotes in one way or
another... the web
sig being probably the least efficacious promotional device (for my
business at least.)
The majority of my material is distributed to independent bookstores...
they promote
the majority of the books I publish and 90% of the time they contact me
due to
customers requesting the books.
Now the case can be closed.
>
>Now be a good little boy and go practice writing your S&M/Satan
>rituals. Based on what I've read at your website, they need some
>serious work.
>
>C
>
>
Well, based upon your characterizing my rituals as "Satan rituals"... it
appears you
do not have the appropriate knowledge to be critiquing them.
Besides what book have you had published anyway? If it is true that
you have one published and distributed by B&N.
Dagon Productions
Rhyanon wrote:
>Aww, poor smack slag junkie, you can't even discern reality enough to know
>yer hitched up to a LOOOOZZZZZZZAH! hehehehehehe!! [season's sneeeeeerings]
>
>
Ahhh... one of Calibans flying monkees chimes in with boorish ad hominem
attacks.
Who exactly have I hitched up to?
Kevin Filan
Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Rhyanon wrote:
>
>> Aww, poor smack slag junkie, you can't even discern reality enough to know
>> yer hitched up to a LOOOOZZZZZZZAH! hehehehehehe!! [season's sneeeeeerings]
>>
>>
>
> Ahhh... one of Calibans flying monkees chimes in with boorish ad hominem
> attacks.
>
> Who exactly have I hitched up to?
That's Suzanne "Rhyannon" Simmons. She spends most of her time online
spewing at various targets instead of taking care of her children. That's
why her daughter got molested by a stranger: Suzanne was busy playing
on the internet instead of watching out for her children.
It would be a shame if someone called up her school district and let
them know that Suzanne was an unfit mother. Seeing as how her address
is public record, it would be a pretty simple thing to do. Perhaps
Suzanne should think about that the next time she considers posting to
alt.satanism.
(Suzanne: this is the part where you spew more crude foulmouthed abuse.
Maybe you can even send a complaint to Earthlink, trying to get my
account pulled. Of course, you'll fail at that, just like you failed
to protect your daughter from a pervert. But it will certainly provide
us with some amusement).
Peace
Kevin Filan
Caliban
<da...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Which is why you use it, of course, because it's the "least
efficacious" way to promote your site.
>The majority of my material is distributed to independent bookstores...
>they promote
>the majority of the books I publish and 90% of the time they contact me
>due to
>customers requesting the books.
How do these independent bookstores promote your poorly-edited and
rather obscure books, besides putting them on their shelves?
>
>Now the case can be closed.
Go back to cleaning up Cat's shit. In fact, use the pages of the books
you publish. That's about all they're good for.
>
>>
>>Now be a good little boy and go practice writing your S&M/Satan
>>rituals. Based on what I've read at your website, they need some
>>serious work.
>>
>>C
>>
>>
>Well, based upon your characterizing my rituals as "Satan rituals"... it
>appears you
>do not have the appropriate knowledge to be critiquing them.
Oh please. It's a ludicrous bit of fluff that belongs in someone's
toilet.
>
>Besides what book have you had published anyway? If it is true that
>you have one published and distributed by B&N.
You'll never know.
Ze alluring ailurophile
>From: Kevin Filan mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com
>Date: 12/26/2003 8:32 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <BC124BC7.407D8%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com>
Is this creep perhaps a fOt incognito? Very, very disgusting.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Some people say that cats are sneaky, evil, and cruel. True, and they have
many other fine qualities as well." - Missy Dizick
Jani
"Ze alluring ailurophile" <zeka...@aol.commiescum> wrote in message
news:20031227020059...@mb-m29.aol.com...
Looks more like someone who was taken in by fOt's rumour-mongering as well
as being one of the "don't post here or we'll OUT you" brigade. One of these
days, someone'll be daft enough to actually contact one of the wrong
addresses fOt kept posting ... probably end up trying to report some bemused
childfree woman to social services for neglecting children she hasn't even
got :)
Jani
lorax666
# On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:26:59 GMT, Hope Munro Smith
# <pan...@yahoo.comedy> wrote:
# >What is the name of your book?
# The Yronwodes, with their various attempts at invading our privacy,
# have resulted in our giving that information to only a handfull of
# ARW regulars, I'm afraid.
LOL! put the back of your hand on your forehead when you post that!
Rhyanon
"lorax666" <yronwode.com@nagasiva> wrote in message
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Rhyanon
so modest!
"Dagon Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Rhyanon
Oh, look, bitter boi has a DIFFERENT email account! Gee, what happened with
E - link, did you get.... TOS'D for "some" reason? hehehehehehe!!! Let's see
how long yer new account lasts after I forward yer threats to them. The
school district [sneeeeer] Good luck with that, limpdick. Gee, I mean, who
are they gonna believe, a person they physically know and have known for
years, or some filthy _SATANIST_ and internet stalker, associated with a
person who is being *investigated* for encouraging suicide? Hm.......
"Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
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Rhyanon
"Jani" <ja...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Caliban
wrote:
You're the drama queen, not me. I'm just acknowledging what freaks you
and your wife are, and how you've managed to make it necessary to
protect our privacy.
Caliban
wrote:
>
>Oh, look, bitter boi has a DIFFERENT email account! Gee, what happened with
>E - link, did you get.... TOS'D for "some" reason? hehehehehehe!!! Let's see
>how long yer new account lasts after I forward yer threats to them. The
>school district [sneeeeer] Good luck with that, limpdick. Gee, I mean, who
>are they gonna believe, a person they physically know and have known for
>years, or some filthy _SATANIST_ and internet stalker, associated with a
>person who is being *investigated* for encouraging suicide? Hm.......
So not only does he defend the Yroningboards, but he uses the same
strategy - invading or threatening to invade real life. How nice.
Send a complaint to his ISP if you want to, Rhy. His post was totally
out of line.
C
Caliban
Caliban
<mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote:
>On 12/26/03 8:07 PM, in article 3FECDB4D...@earthlink.net, "Dagon
>Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Rhyanon wrote:
>>
>>> Aww, poor smack slag junkie, you can't even discern reality enough to know
>>> yer hitched up to a LOOOOZZZZZZZAH! hehehehehehe!! [season's sneeeeeerings]
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ahhh... one of Calibans flying monkees chimes in with boorish ad hominem
>> attacks.
>>
>> Who exactly have I hitched up to?
>
>That's Suzanne "Rhyannon" Simmons. She spends most of her time online
>spewing at various targets instead of taking care of her children. That's
>why her daughter got molested by a stranger: Suzanne was busy playing
>on the internet instead of watching out for her children.
>
>It would be a shame if someone called up her school district and let
>them know that Suzanne was an unfit mother. Seeing as how her address
>is public record, it would be a pretty simple thing to do. Perhaps
>Suzanne should think about that the next time she considers posting to
>alt.satanism.
Is that a threat? Sounds like one to me. Who is your ISP again?
>
>(Suzanne: this is the part where you spew more crude foulmouthed abuse.
>Maybe you can even send a complaint to Earthlink, trying to get my
>account pulled. Of course, you'll fail at that, just like you failed
>to protect your daughter from a pervert. But it will certainly provide
>us with some amusement).
Ah, Earthlink. Noted.
C
>
>Peace
>Kevin Filan
Caliban
<da...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>Rhyanon wrote:
>
>>Aww, poor smack slag junkie, you can't even discern reality enough to know
>>yer hitched up to a LOOOOZZZZZZZAH! hehehehehehe!! [season's sneeeeeerings]
>>
>>
>
>Ahhh... one of Calibans flying monkees chimes in with boorish ad hominem
>attacks.
>
>Who exactly have I hitched up to?
You wish you were "hitched" to Rhy, Douggie. The best you can do is
tie some poor bitch up and pretend you're performing magick as you
beat her.
C
>
>-Douglas
Rhyanon
> On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:22:10 -0600, "Rhyanon" <rhy...@pishoff.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Oh, look, bitter boi has a DIFFERENT email account! Gee, what happened
with
> >E - link, did you get.... TOS'D for "some" reason? hehehehehehe!!! Let's
see
> >how long yer new account lasts after I forward yer threats to them. The
> >school district [sneeeeer] Good luck with that, limpdick. Gee, I mean,
who
> >are they gonna believe, a person they physically know and have known for
> >years, or some filthy _SATANIST_ and internet stalker, associated with a
> >person who is being *investigated* for encouraging suicide? Hm.......
>
> So not only does he defend the Yroningboards, but he uses the same
> strategy - invading or threatening to invade real life. How nice.
>
> Send a complaint to his ISP if you want to, Rhy. His post was totally
> out of line.
I did, although I was admittedly mistaken in my premature exulatation in
getting him tos'd. Let's see if second time's the charm....
Kevin Filan
<rhy...@pishoff.com> wrote:
>
> Oh, look, bitter boi has a DIFFERENT email account! Gee, what happened with
> E - link, did you get.... TOS'D for "some" reason? hehehehehehe!!! Let's see
> how long yer new account lasts after I forward yer threats to them.
Your last complaints failed, just like your previous efforts to protect
your child failed. You'll just have to sit and whimper and deal with
your emotional scars, just like your daughter has to deal with the
consequences of your failure to protect her from a pervert.
Do you really think anyone cares about the complaints of an Internet
troll and unfit mother? If so, keep on sending them in... I'm sure
you're providing them with plenty of amusement. They may even have
your rants posted on the bulletin board, so that all the other techs
can laugh at you as well.
> The
> school district [sneeeeer] Good luck with that, limpdick. Gee, I mean, who
> are they gonna believe, a person they physically know and have known for
> years, or some filthy _SATANIST_ and internet stalker, associated with a
> person who is being *investigated* for encouraging suicide? Hm.......
Most likely they will bring your daughter in and ask her what she
thinks. They will also send a social worker to your home to see what
kind of living conditions your daughter has to endure. I suppose the
social worker's word will carry more weight than yours... particularly
since it will be properly spelled.
You may want to clean your house: you wouldn't want the child
protection authorities coming in and finding your place a mess.
You do know that it's standard operating procedure for child
protection services to investigate ANY complaint, right? And
you do know that I may not be the one sending in the complaint;
you've made lots of enemies online, all of whom have telephones
and all of whom are quite capable of filing complaints on their
own. And, as I said, complaints about child abuse are always
investigated -- unlike complaints to ISPs, which are most often
ignored, particularly when they come from trolls like yourself.
(Suzanne: this is the part where you threaten me with your kung fu
skills or scream about how you are going to shoot me).
Have a happy holiday.
And kiss your daughters while you still have custody.
Peace
Kevin Filan
Kevin Filan
"Caliban" <Cal...@nospam.com> wrote:
> So not only does he defend the Yroningboards, but he uses the same
> strategy - invading or threatening to invade real life. How nice.
What is this distinction between "real life" and "Internet life" anyway?
If you walk up to someone in real life and spew obscenities at them, you
are likely to get punched in the face. Why should the Internet be any
different? If you come trolling, don't be surprised if someone decides
to play "Troll-B-Gone" ... and don't whine when you discover that they
aren't interested in honoring your "don't take it to real life" rules.
Suzanne's information is public: the fact that Suzanne's daughter was
molested because Suzanne couldn't be bothered to watch her is also
public info (put on Usenet by none other than Suzanne herself). As
such, she can hardly complain when that public info winds up in a public
forum. She's just lucky that no one has decided to take this a few steps
further... yet. Perhaps she should just consider herself lucky and take
her wrinkled, unfit-mothering ass out of here, no?
> Send a complaint to his ISP if you want to, Rhy. His post was totally
> out of line.
Nothing will happen. But do feel free to complain. Just like you
feel free to brag about your imaginary books.
I wonder what a little digging would produce on you... perhaps you would
like to find out?
Peace
Kevin Filan
n...@home.org
wrote:
># The Yronwodes, with their various attempts at invading our privacy,
># have resulted in our giving that information to only a handfull of
># ARW regulars, I'm afraid.
>
>LOL! put the back of your hand on your forehead when you post that!
You know, as an aside, I find it interesting on how, when the
Internet first arose, those people that sought out information on
others were thought of as outcasts: weird, odd, dangerous. Yet now
that the Internet has become mainstream, those people that would
rather information about themselves become hard to find are looked at
as the outcasts: weird, strange in some way, have something to hide.
Just an observation.
Bright be thy day in the sun,
Wintershard
wintershard.alt-religion-wicca.com
ARW Website: www.Alt-Religion-Wicca.com
Wintershard
Blech. I hate setting up differing computers. 'Twas me.
Jani
> On 12/27/03 9:32 AM, in article
9s5ruvcjslkm92r51...@4ax.com,
> "Caliban" <Cal...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > So not only does he defend the Yroningboards, but he uses the same
> > strategy - invading or threatening to invade real life. How nice.
>
> What is this distinction between "real life" and "Internet life" anyway?
> If you walk up to someone in real life and spew obscenities at them, you
> are likely to get punched in the face. Why should the Internet be any
> different? If you come trolling, don't be surprised if someone decides
> to play "Troll-B-Gone" ... and don't whine when you discover that they
> aren't interested in honoring your "don't take it to real life" rules.
>
> Suzanne's information is public: the fact that Suzanne's daughter was
> molested because Suzanne couldn't be bothered to watch her is also
> public info (put on Usenet by none other than Suzanne herself). As
> such, she can hardly complain when that public info winds up in a public
> forum.
Could you cite the post in which this information is put on Usenet by
Suzanne? Or have you perhaps mis-remembered the incident in which her
daughter encountered a flasher while walking home from school ... an
incident which was dealt with at the time, through the courts, and had no
inference of neglect on the part of the parents.
She's just lucky that no one has decided to take this a few steps
> further... yet. Perhaps she should just consider herself lucky and take
> her wrinkled, unfit-mothering ass out of here, no?
Are all parents whose children have the ill fortune to run into flashers
"unfit", then?
>
>
> > Send a complaint to his ISP if you want to, Rhy. His post was totally
> > out of line.
>
> Nothing will happen. But do feel free to complain. Just like you
> feel free to brag about your imaginary books.
>
> I wonder what a little digging would produce on you... perhaps you would
> like to find out?
Well, you could probably produce the fact that the book isn't "imaginary",
for one thing ....
Jani
lorax666
#># The Yronwodes, with their various attempts at invading our privacy,
#># have resulted in our giving that information to only a handfull of
#># ARW regulars, I'm afraid.
the nicer Yronwode responds, amused:
#>LOL! put the back of your hand on your forehead when you post that!
n...@home.org [What, no 'Wintershard'?]:
# You know, as an aside,
ok, but I'm keeping it in context. :>
# I find it interesting on how, when the
# Internet first arose, those people that sought out information on
# others were thought of as outcasts: weird, odd, dangerous.
I never noticed that. I only saw compliments for info provided.
you mean 'PI'? maybe, yeah.
# Yet now
# that the Internet has become mainstream, those people that would
# rather information about themselves become hard to find
this is why I kept it in context. CaliLilly is not acting in ways
which are conducive to this objective, Winter. they're picking fights
with people repeatedly who have been known to look up information
about others. it is a goad, a kind of subtle dare. if one cares
enough to pursue the buzzing fly and to look beyond the killfiles,
one of us will track him down and then he can whine some more about
being the 'target of horrible people'.
realize where this started, as a dig at competitive professionals
(i.e. it is commonplace for unbalanced authors to use the internet
as a means of getting to their peers anonymously, attempting to
undermine their confidence and distract them from their works).
some find their fantasized rivals awesome and a reason to fear and
so try to scare them off with socks and trollish behaviour. in the
limelight associated with their obsessive target, they barely glean
a bit of what they cannot otherwise have: attention for their work.
those who troll about in usenet are not trying to conceal their
identities in the same way that the early days' posters had. they
are trying to use their concealed identities to avoid being
responsible for the unrest, flurry, and umbrage they incite on
the part of those who are unused to their forays into the
unknown areas where their betters dwell.
# are looked at as the outcasts: weird, strange in some way, have
# something to hide.
that's NOT how I see CaliLilly. they're just sad, pitiful, really.
# Just an observation.
thanks!
lorax666
lorax666
# Blech. I hate setting up differing computers. 'Twas me.
LOL Winter!
that was amusingly-timed. :>
lorax666
Hope Munro Smith
Victor™
>
> You do know that it's standard operating procedure for child
> protection services to investigate ANY complaint, right? And
> you do know that I may not be the one sending in the complaint;
> you've made lots of enemies online, all of whom have telephones
> and all of whom are quite capable of filing complaints on their
> own. And, as I said, complaints about child abuse are always
> investigated -- unlike complaints to ISPs, which are most often
> ignored, particularly when they come from trolls like yourself.
Oh, let's not discourage the k00ks from posting. Since Circe left there
hasn't been nearly enough entertainment around these parts.
Merry Christmas BTW Kevin. Hope Santa brought you something worthwhile.
Victor
--
I'd rather be whole than "good".
-Carl Jung
Joker & Harley at Arkham
You know me from Nanae, Rhy is a good person. The allegations made by
one party and his socks have all been proved false.
The war with Cat started years ago and was enhanced when Cat and her
people made a troll page with personal info on it.
This war has many layers of mud on it, so I advise you not to believe
everything you hear from either side.
Harley
>
> >Subject: Re: BN Books & Cat Y (was Re: Hoodoo Book (was: Thelemic
> >From: Kevin Filan mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com
> >Date: 12/26/2003 8:32 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <BC124BC7.407D8%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com>
--
Boycott Starbucks
http://www.haidabuckscafe.com/
Reply to vyl at pacbell dot net
Ze alluring ailurophile
>Date: 12/27/2003 4:19 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <e175dd8e783a3340...@news.teranews.com>
He devotes so much time and energy to someone he doesn't even know. Sheesh.
Figinnn
"Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
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Well that was rather tasteless. I surely hope you're not the poster child
for alt.satanism.
While I am not on Rhyannon's Christmas Card list (nor she on mine) I see no
purpose being served by such statements. Typical Internet garbage ... if
you don't like a woman, she's supposedly neglecting her children by being on
the net or is some slut. If you don't like a man, he's supposedly some kind
of pervert, pedophile and/or stalker.
I really wish someone would at least be original. That would certainly
provide us with the amusement of which you speak.
Figinn
People's Commissar
http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/vadyan.html
And DATS Offishul.
"Dagon Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Rhyanon wrote:
>
> >Aww, poor smack slag junkie, you can't even discern reality enough to
know
> >yer hitched up to a LOOOOZZZZZZZAH! hehehehehehe!! [season's
sneeeeeerings]
> >
> >
>
> Ahhh... one of Calibans flying monkees chimes in with boorish ad hominem
> attacks.
>
> Who exactly have I hitched up to?
>
People's Commissar
"Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
news:BC132026.40907%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com...
> On 12/27/03 9:32 AM, in article
9s5ruvcjslkm92r51...@4ax.com,
> "Caliban" <Cal...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > So not only does he defend the Yroningboards, but he uses the same
> > strategy - invading or threatening to invade real life. How nice.
>
> What is this distinction between "real life" and "Internet life" anyway?
Osamma bin Ladin's guys can't easily check real life things, or DISTORTIONS
of real life that you are SO fond of presenting (it's called libel). The
world can see what's posted in a newsgroup. That's the difference.
> If you walk up to someone in real life and spew obscenities at them, you
> are likely to get punched in the face.
Well, it's about time you realize that. So where do YOU live?
Why should the Internet be any
> different? If you come trolling, don't be surprised if someone decides
> to play "Troll-B-Gone" ... and don't whine when you discover that they
> aren't interested in honoring your "don't take it to real life" rules.
>
> Suzanne's information is public: the fact that Suzanne's daughter was
> molested because Suzanne couldn't be bothered to watch her is also
> public info (put on Usenet by none other than Suzanne herself). As
> such, she can hardly complain when that public info winds up in a public
> forum. She's just lucky that no one has decided to take this a few steps
> further... yet.
THREATS again? Are you also going to hack into her bank account the way you
hacked into Michael Aquino's bank account? You know, Tyagi and Cat have a
miff with these people. No threats were made until YOU showed up. This is
typical Filan ala Church of Satan attempt to censor by making threats.
Perhaps she should just consider herself lucky and take
> her wrinkled, unfit-mothering ass out of here, no?
LIBEL again? Any child walking home could get flashed by a stranger. And
whereas the WORLD can see what you write in this newsgroup, the WORLD is not
likely to go looking up what the woman posted on a website if the URL is not
posted. But let's talk about the mother who married the pedophile, which
would be "Wife Abuser Number TWO" no less. No? You know, the couple
(pedophile and abused woman) representing your brand of SATANISM on national
TV to the world. You know, the best friends, close up and personal, of the
HP and HPess of YOUR org that somehow, in some way, "did not know" this shit
was going on when they personally knew and hung out with the couple? Btw,
where do YOU live, Kevin? What, afraid to tell everyone?
>
>
> > Send a complaint to his ISP if you want to, Rhy. His post was totally
> > out of line.
>
> Nothing will happen. But do feel free to complain. Just like you
> feel free to brag about your imaginary books.
>
> I wonder what a little digging would produce on you... perhaps you would
> like to find out?
>
> Peace
When you write "peace" - you really mean WAR. You turned a simple flame
miff where there wasn't any threat - into a threat war and a libel game.
Biblical defininition of Satan: A LIAR FROM THE BEGINNING.
> Kevin Filan
Tani Jantsang.
>
Hope Munro Smith
Joker & Harley at Arkham <v...@pacbe11.ent> wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> You know me from Nanae, Rhy is a good person. The allegations made by
> one party and his socks have all been proved false.
Indeed.
>
> The war with Cat started years ago and was enhanced when Cat and her
> people made a troll page with personal info on it.
>
> This war has many layers of mud on it, so I advise you not to believe
> everything you hear from either side.
>
> Harley
>
This is the conclusion I've come to after this past week!
Kevin Filan
k9oHb.3116$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "People's Commissar"
<tjs...@spam.com> wrote:
> You just can't resist.
Tani, nobody was talking to you. So why don't you shut your flapping,
liver-spotted hole, go spend the rest of ol' Asscancer's money, and wish
that you had children who still talked to you?
Peace
Kevin Filan
People's Commissar
>
> You do know that it's standard operating procedure for child
> protection services to investigate ANY complaint, right? And
> you do know that I may not be the one sending in the complaint;
> you've made lots of enemies online, all of whom have telephones
> and all of whom are quite capable of filing complaints on their
> own.
You mean, like that Christian guy and the FCoS people who got forwards of
those emails about Barton? They may have done it. Barton suddenly beat a
fast retreat and is no longer the HP of your orgnanization. I certainly
wouldn't do such a thing. Frankly, I'm too lazy. But some of these people
were hell bent determined to get even for what your pals did. Me? I never
even gave them her phone number - but I obviously COULD HAVE. Nope, I was
content to forward only info provided by one of your own pals. Let anyone
come search my hard drive to see. IDGAF baby.
And, as I said, complaints about child abuse are always
> investigated -- unlike complaints to ISPs, which are most often
> ignored, particularly when they come from trolls like yourself.
They are trolls for having a miff with Tyagi and Cat? But Tyagi and Cat are
not trolls for having a miff with them. Hmm, how strange.
>
> (Suzanne: this is the part where you threaten me with your kung fu
> skills or scream about how you are going to shoot me).
Well, see Filan - that contradicts what you just wrote about punches in the
face. You HIDE behind a computer. But you don't want these people to HIDE
behind a computer. You know, there is such a thing as a right to privacy.
She can't do kung fu on you or shoot you because she doesn't know where you
are. However, lots of gays are in the former FCOS or present one. You DO go
to gay functions. Your picture was posted by yourself on the web. You
never know. People get shot over far less than what you like to do.
>
> Have a happy holiday.
>
> And kiss your daughters while you still have custody.
How are the Gidney children, since you brought it up? Is Mrs. Gidney still
so terrified of William Gidney that she wants to only confront him by
telephonic in court? How is Barton's son? You opened that can of worms,
Filan. But then, you always DO stuff like that. How is Russel Smith doing,
since he was in the Church of Satan practicing his "satanic religion" by
molesting his minor daughter? His defense against pedophilia? He was
practicing his Satanic Religion - he said. It's on record now.
You know, there were no grounds for Satanic Ritual Abuse back then, but now,
with what some of your organization's members doing all this crap and
getting caught - there is grounds. William Gidney, Russel Smith, that other
guy - Goad or whatever his name is, in jail for beating up women. Now, if
Ygraine didn't get her kids yanked from her for 1. marrying two abusers; 2,
being present while pedophilia is going on - then I fail to see how a
flasher flashing a kid if going to mean jack squat when it comes to this
woman being a good mother. How much did YOU know about the abused and
battered kiddie raping Gidney situation? After all, YOU ALSO KNEW THEM
close up and personal.
That you make threats right now against someone, in the vain attempt to
censor them - is just more evidence of SRA TYPE behavior.
>
> Peace
> Kevin Filan
You don't know the meaning of the word peace.
>
People's Commissar
They are kooks for having a miff (about just what, I'm not even sure). But
Tyagi and Cat are not kooks when a licensed MD, Doctor of Psychiatry says
they are not only kooks, but psychotic, psychopathic and dangerous?
And sure sure, it's OK for Filan to libel and threaten them in his attempt
to CENSOR their posts?
I don't think so. We can agree to disagree.
I'm accused of writing such and such emails - but emails can be faked.
Filan posted these specific threats and no one else posted "in his name" or
spoofed it.
Now - just what is the email for HRS in that part of the woods? I'm game.
I'm all game to tell HRS about threats made by a satanist that himself and
his whole organization condones and tolerates abuse of wives and kids and
only claims otherwise when the LAW catches them in the act. Don't need to
testify in court. It's already in the court records.
Of course, there is also trouble to be had if a person knowingly files a
FALSE complaint and states anything that is not true.
"VictorT" <vic...@blaspherionworld.zzn.com> wrote in message
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evaeldeva
> >Subject: Re: BN Books & Cat Y (was Re: Hoodoo Book (was: Thelemic
> >From: Kevin Filan mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com
> >Date: 12/26/2003 8:32 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <BC124BC7.407D8%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com>
> >
> >Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Aww, poor smack slag junkie, you can't even discern reality enough to
> know
> >>> yer hitched up to a LOOOOZZZZZZZAH! hehehehehehe!! [season's
> sneeeeeerings]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Ahhh... one of Calibans flying monkees chimes in with boorish ad hominem
> >> attacks.
> >>
> >> Who exactly have I hitched up to?
> >
> >spewing at various targets instead of taking care of her children. That's
> >why her daughter got molested by a stranger: Suzanne was busy playing
> >on the internet instead of watching out for her children.
> >
> >It would be a shame if someone called up her school district and let
> >them know that Suzanne was an unfit mother. Seeing as how her address
> >is public record, it would be a pretty simple thing to do. Perhaps
> >Suzanne should think about that the next time she considers posting to
> >alt.satanism.
> >
> >(Suzanne: this is the part where you spew more crude foulmouthed abuse.
> >Maybe you can even send a complaint to Earthlink, trying to get my
> >account pulled. Of course, you'll fail at that, just like you failed
> >to protect your daughter from a pervert. But it will certainly provide
> >us with some amusement).
> >
> >Kevin Filan
>
>
> Is this creep perhaps a fOt incognito? Very, very disgusting.
>
>
Nah, Kev is just a Satnaist without a hard-on
People's Commissar
of SATAN fashion, create fantasy. The fact is, you DON'T know if I have
kids at all. OR if I do and they and their kids are here RIGHT NOW.
2. You know absolutely nothing about Jeff Gerber's money.
3. You know absolutely nothing about Jeff Gerber's brother's son - also
named Jeff. But fess up time - THAT is the person who was posting on
alt.satanism claiming to be Senior.
4. Nobody was talking to me - but I notice the SRA tactics you continue to
use and find it all SO amusing. Nobody was talking to YOU EITHER - you
know? I'm shocked that Tyagi and Cat would bother to pull out what they
think are the "BIG GUNS." Namely YOU.
5. Nobody was talking to YOU either before you became Flying Monkey Number
1000 and jumped into DEFEND the buttholes of people in a silly miff - and
true, I have no idea what the miff is even about - so why don't YOU spend
the rest of your alcoholic stupor time taking ephedra and wheezing over your
asthma and smiling, if you can, about that 60 thou a year job you LOST due
to your antics on alt.SATANISM where you dragged the cops in (who were none
too happy about it when I called it to their direct attention :) .
6. Go fix your god damned make up. It's smeared.
7. Grasp this fact, Kevie - I'm fearless. And I was a master at telling
CoSatan people DISTORTIONS when it came to my personal shit. Why? To see
where it went from there. Always mark your "disinfo." That way, when it
pops up, you know who spread it. I HATE dictionary-Satanists - and you are
one of them.
Yup, HRS investigates ALL claims of child abuse. Where is my god damend
phone. LMAO. LMAO LMAO. I mean, why not? You guys kept INSISTING I did
this and that when I never did or threatened to do it. I mean, you guys
were so paranoid that you saw TANI behind every fucking misfortune that
befell you - like that Apple Computer thing. NOPE - Pan Pipes did that.
Let's not forget the last one, when your Tweenie Brain slut BLAMED SR for
the Gidney pedophila jail sentence. I also had nothing to do with your
losing that 60 thou a year job, Kevin. Nothing at all.
"Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
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Kevin Filan
G9pHb.3174$d4...@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "People's Commissar"
<tjs...@spam.com> wrote:
<snip 100+ lines of frothing-at-the-mouth ranting)
As I said before: nobody was talking to you, and nobody has wanted to
talk to you since we booted you out of the Church of Satan. Therefore,
it would behoove you to shut your wrinkled and liver-spotted piehole,
turn off your computer, and go pretend your children have any more use
for you than we do.
Is that clearer, Phyllis?
Peace
Kevin Filan
People's Commissar
> On 12/27/03 7:08 PM, in article
> G9pHb.3174$d4...@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "People's Commissar"
> <tjs...@spam.com> wrote:
>
> <snip 100+ lines of frothing-at-the-mouth ranting)
No 100+ lines of everything. And what I said is not a rant. What you say
is CoSatan libel and threats - as usual.
>
> As I said before: nobody was talking to you, and nobody has wanted to
> talk to you since we booted you out of the Church of Satan.
1. I was never IN the Church of Satan and claiming I was a dejure member is
LIBEL. Being handed a title by the hi poop means nothing. I was never a
member of ANY Satanic organization. I am a founder of SR which is about the
DDocs and Sat and Tan.
2. heh, quite a few people talk to me that are in the Church of Satan. I
know you wish they didn't. HOW the hell do you think I found about about
the Gidneys? EH? Think about that, boy.
Therefore,
It would behoove you to butt the fuck out of the miff between Tyagi and the
others. Stop threatening them. Stop libeling them.
> Is that clearer, Phyllis?
Heh, you can call me by that name all you want. I wrote stories and used
that name - it's right out in the open on Burglund's list of tales. There
is no dispute over exactly which ones I wrote or didn't write. Kevin, heh,
since YOU OUTED IT, you may as well grasp the idea: When you change your
name from Tani Jantsang to Tanya whatever - the ORIGINAL BIRTH records are
shown. I believe it was YOU that did the honors of OUTING that personal
info. Mine show clearly - Tani Jantsang. LMAO. So spreading that little
bs means nothing. EG, if your fag hag married you and changed her name to
Filan - her birth records would STILL show with her original name. In the
event that I ever have to show my birth certificate, I'd have to show a name
change from Tani Jantsang to Tanya - to show WHY the other ID has the Tanya
name on it. I'm Tani Jantsang - go chew on that, little boy. The change
was due to job bs.
What were YOU DOING while your pal Wil Gidney was beating up his wife and
raping their kids? EH? Answer the fucking question. OH, you deny you knew
it now that the man's in JAIL for it? OH, you didn't know that was going
on? LIAR. In fact, you were poster boy instrumental in getting the couple
their spaniel fans. How do I know that? Why, those COS members that don't
speak to me told me, LMAO. Heh, I know that Schlesinger is smiling from ear
to ear over the disaster, LMAO.
I fucking smell a NEWS STORY - maybe the 700 Club would be interested.
NOBODY WAS TALKING TO YOU EITHER, in case you don't grasp the IRONY here.
For having a miff with Tyagi and Cat, you THREATEN to call child services on
someone? Heh, like YOUR PAL wanted to do to Barton and TRIED LIKE HELL to
get ME to do? Nah, I just handed HIS info over to people that MIGHT WANT to
do it.
>
> War
> Kevin Filan
>
Kevin Filan
4GpHb.3199$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "People's Commissar"
<tjs...@spam.com> wrote:
> I fucking smell a NEWS STORY - maybe the 700 Club would be interested.
Then why don't you shut your wrinkled, liver-spotted piehole and call them?
Oh, that's right. Because they'll laugh at you just like we laugh at you.
But do continue spewing threats and providing us with entertainment.
Everybody has to serve some purpose in life... and apparently acting like a
jackass on alt.satanism for the entertainment of the peanut gallery is your
purpose.
Oh, and don't forget to change your Depends when you are finished.
Peace
Kevin Filan
People's Commissar
http://www.geocities.com/jesusofborg/Jesus_of_Borg.html
LMAO - that's the PEDOPHILE Satanist - and it's no bs, the man's in JAIL for
it.
"Jani" <ja...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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People's Commissar
a few outstanding indivuals." HAAAAAAAAA.
"Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
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Kevin Filan
OKpHb.3206$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "People's Commissar"
<tjs...@spam.com> wrote:
> OH MY GOD...
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jesusofborg/Jesus_of_Borg.html
>
> LMAO - that's the PEDOPHILE Satanist - and it's no bs, the man's in JAIL for
> it.
You should appreciate Will's plight.
Like you, he was ejected from the Church of Satan.
You know what they say about birds of a feather...
Peace
Kevin Filan
People's Commissar
> Then why don't you shut your wrinkled, liver-spotted piehole and call
them?
>
Everybody has to serve some purpose in life... and apparently acting like a
jackass on alt.satanism for the entertainment of the peanut gallery is your
purpose.
YOU have no intention of calling child services against Rhyannon because it
would be filing a false claim. But that YOU threaten people and libel them
is par for the course - for the CHURCH OF SATAN in general.
Right now I'm giggling my freaking ass off at YOUR threats to call child
services against Ryannon. I knew you'd come out with that sooner or later.
YOU DO that kind of thing.
The only organization that is seriously a laughing stock, if not for the
vile off-line coersion and threat tactics you employ, is the CHURCH OF
SATAN. Last but not least, Anton Lavey's trying to get the Aquinos (husband
and wife) locked up by LYING to the CID in an army investigation. Great
going, Tony.
Sniveling coward. You still HIDE beyhind a computer, Kevin. Come out, come
out, wherever you are. Are you presently at 758 visiting the midget and the
monster? LMAO.
Do you see how FUNNY that is?
You are are, let's see, a Setian, no A Catholic that insists that SRA is
real, no. Um. a Church of Satan thug? Presently, yes. You are uh,
straight, no. Gay, no. Tranny, no. Um.... Confused? YES.
Go fix your make up.
Kevin Filan
l5qHb.3218$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "People's Commissar"
<tjs...@spam.com> wrote:
> The only organization that is seriously a laughing stock, if not for the
> vile off-line coersion and threat tactics you employ, is the CHURCH OF
> SATAN. Last but not least, Anton Lavey's trying to get the Aquinos (husband
> and wife) locked up by LYING to the CID in an army investigation. Great
> going, Tony.
Apparently, you had a high enough opinion of the CoS that YOU wanted to be a
member, and remained a member until you were thrown out on your wrinkled,
liver-spotted, Depends-wearing ass.
But do continue reminding us that you, like Will Gidney, were booted out of
the Church of Satan for misbehavior. And don't forget to change your rubber
panties when you are finished ranting: we wouldn't want you stinking up your
vinyl-covered yurt.
Peace
Kevin Filan
People's Commissar
I ever pay to join it, submit an application to join it, or BEHAVE AS IF I
WAS IN IT. Handing me a title (a really dumbfuck act, ya think?) when I was
known too well off line to be SO HOSTILE to it by Gilmore (the man with
Tony's ear, after all) I merely became an agent provocateur WITHIN your
org - or worse - he he.
You should appreciate the IRONY. Suckers.
You really don't seem to appreciate how much VENOM I handed Gilmore
personally against the CoS and ALL that it represented - from DAY ONE,
Kevin. You really don't seem to have a clue about that. Hmm! You just
told me something, whether you realize that or not.
And the WHAT of Gidney? Plight? I spit on him, her, the whole TWISTED
FILTH that they represent, especially their sick, putrid "advice" to other
women.
You should be so happy that I just INFORMED YOU that their filth website was
still up there. LMAO. Say "thank you," Kevin. You're welcome.
"Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
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Lou Seefer
news:yXoHb.3164$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net:
> I don't get it.
>
> They are kooks for having a miff (about just what, I'm not even sure).
> But Tyagi and Cat are not kooks when a licensed MD, Doctor of
> Psychiatry says they are not only kooks, but psychotic, psychopathic
> and dangerous?
Tyagi and Cat are certainly k00ks. Nobody's denying that one. They're also
poseurs who routinely spout reams and reams of endless gibberish in an
attempt to convince themselves that they a) matter and b) know what they
are talking about. Neither of which is the case, of course.
One of the high-points of my entire usenet career was several months ago
when Cat broke in to a conversation I was having with Ryan, pretending to
know something about Orff's _Carmina Burana_ after what appeared to be a
minimal google search; when in fact she knew nothing about it.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=
3E58008B.718D947C%40luckymojo.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DCarmina%
2BBurana%2Bgroup:alt.satanism%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%
26selm%3D3E58008B.718D947C%2540luckymojo.com%26rnum%3D1
A bigger pair of dumbasses I doubt I've seen.
>
> And sure sure, it's OK for Filan to libel and threaten them in his
> attempt to CENSOR their posts?
>
Is that what he's doing? I certainly hope he stops. This place doesn't have
near enough entertainment these days.
> I don't think so. We can agree to disagree.
>
Quite true.
Victor
--
Suicide is a belated acquiescence in the opinion of one's wife's relatives.
-H.L. Mencken
Victor™
news:yXoHb.3164$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net:
> I don't get it.
>
> They are kooks for having a miff (about just what, I'm not even sure).
> But Tyagi and Cat are not kooks when a licensed MD, Doctor of
> Psychiatry says they are not only kooks, but psychotic, psychopathic
> and dangerous?
Tyagi and Cat are certainly k00ks. Nobody's denying that one. They're also
poseurs who routinely spout reams and reams of endless gibberish in an
attempt to convince themselves that they a) matter and b) know what they
are talking about. Neither of which is the case, of course.
One of the high-points of my entire usenet career was several months ago
when Cat broke in to a conversation I was having with Ryan, pretending to
know something about Orff's _Carmina Burana_ after what appeared to be a
minimal google search; when in fact she knew nothing about it.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=
3E58008B.718D947C%40luckymojo.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DCarmina%
2BBurana%2Bgroup:alt.satanism%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%
26selm%3D3E58008B.718D947C%2540luckymojo.com%26rnum%3D1
A bigger pair of dumbasses I doubt I've seen.
>
> And sure sure, it's OK for Filan to libel and threaten them in his
> attempt to CENSOR their posts?
>
Is that what he's doing? I certainly hope he stops. This place doesn't have
near enough entertainment these days.
> I don't think so. We can agree to disagree.
>
Quite true.
Victor
--
"It was as true as taxes is. And nothing's truer than them."
-Charles Dickens (1812-70)
Kevin Filan
"Victor™" <vic...@blaspherionworld.zzn.com> wrote:
>> And sure sure, it's OK for Filan to libel and threaten them in his
>> attempt to CENSOR their posts?
>>
>
> Is that what he's doing? I certainly hope he stops. This place doesn't have
> near enough entertainment these days.
Oh, we can still count on Tani to provide us with endless entertainment.
I'm baffled as to why Tani felt it necessary to hop into this little
argument. Her name wasn't mentioned, nor did I even make a veiled allusion
to any of her accomplishments (such as they are). I thought that she was
now a proud leader of the Satanic Reds, an organization composed of REAL
WORLD ACHIEVERS, whose doctrines are SOLID GOLD and 90% of whom have NEVER
EVEN HEARD OF SATANISM. And yet my brief return to this newsgroup (more out
of boredom than anything else) sends her into a foaming-at-the-mouth tirade
that would have done Linda Blair proud. For somebody who DOESN'T CARE about
the Church of Satan, she sure does spend an awful lot of time posting about
us... far more time than I spend posting about, or thinking about, the
Satanic Reds.
I'd blame it on PMS, but I doubt Tani has had that particular problem for a
while now. I guess some people are more traumatized by rejection than
others: obviously Tani is still smarting over her ejection from the Church
of Satan. Whatever the case, she really needs to get over us and move on.
We certainly have gotten over her.
<Tani: this is the part where you jump in screaming you NEVER WERE a member
of the Church of Satan... and where someone else posts copies of your posts
from 1999 and 2000 bragging about how you are "a MAGISTRA in the CHURCH OF
SATAN, the ONLY REAL SATANIC ORGANIZATION" etc. We all know this dance by
now, and I'm sure you'll be ready to dance a few more reels of the
Spankard's Tango for us yet again... >
Suzanne "Rhyannon" Simmons is a shrieking slag, who occasionally needs to be
reminded of her (low) place in the order of things. She's sorta like Tani
on heavy sedatives: the same foul-mouthed ranting, only less voluminous. In
the annals of Usenet fuckheadery, you could say Suzanne was playing
Hemingway to Tani's Leo Tolstoy. (Although I am getting a kick at
Suzanne's simple-minded netcopping efforts: she really thinks an abuse desk
is going to give a shit what some sad troll like herself has to say about,
well, anything... ).
Hope everyone here had a good holiday: I still need to read a few of the
books I received for Xmas. (I'll give everyone a review of Heidegger's
*Being and Time* when I finish slogging through it, and also need to read
James Blish's *The Devil's Day*).
Peace
Kevin FIlan
Dagon Productions
Jani wrote:
>"Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
>news:BC132026.40907%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com...
>
>
>>On 12/27/03 9:32 AM, in article
>>
>>
>9s5ruvcjslkm92r51...@4ax.com,
>
>
>>"Caliban" <Cal...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Nothing will happen. But do feel free to complain. Just like you
>>feel free to brag about your imaginary books.
>>
>>I wonder what a little digging would produce on you... perhaps you would
>>like to find out?
>>
>>
>
>Well, you could probably produce the fact that the book isn't "imaginary",
>for one thing ....
>
>Jani
>
>
>
>
This is laughable. If someone claims to have produced something than
the onus
is on them to provide proof.
Thus far the claim that Caliban has published a book is nothing but words
on usenet unless he provides proof otherwise.
Quit being such a dumbass.
People's Commissar
man can't be honest - it would mean having to ADMIT that he LIED TO ANTON
about something very important. Did he EVER ONCE tell the LaVey's "DO NOT
TRUST TANI - SHE IS AGAINST EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR?" No, obviously not.
OH OH!
"Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
news:BC139977.409C3%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com...
> On 12/27/03 8:11 PM, in article
> l5qHb.3218$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "People's Commissar"
> <tjs...@spam.com> wrote:
>
> > The only organization that is seriously a laughing stock, if not for the
> > vile off-line coersion and threat tactics you employ, is the CHURCH OF
> > SATAN. Last but not least, Anton Lavey's trying to get the Aquinos
(husband
> > and wife) locked up by LYING to the CID in an army investigation. Great
> > going, Tony.
>
> Apparently, you had a high enough opinion of the CoS that YOU wanted to be
a
> member, and remained a member until you were thrown out
You are spreading lies - and I hold YOUR CORPORATION to be behind it. I'm
going to say it one more time. From day one, I had nothing but the most
severe criticism for everything LaVey ever wrote - and spelled it out item
by item to Gilmore. From day one, anyone offline that ever asked me about
it - I handed them the information that Rolling Stone magazine had - only I
had it DECADES before they ever had it and for one, GILMORE KNEW IT because
I showed him letters with that info in it. From day one! That you don't
know this, means you were not told that Gilmore who, KNOWING ALL of this,
never confided in Anton LaVey or warned him NOT to go handing out silly
titles to the likes of me. .
I was never a member of the Church of Satan. I never gave them a CENT. I
never had a red card. They never had an application on me to join or
anything else. THAT is a fact. I not only would never join such t a thing,
but NEVER would want to - and that's something you can't get your head
around, despite the DEEDS being there to make it 100% obvious: that type of
person would SPIT on the CoS. Indeed! You can't get around that.
More facts. They used every scrap of information we threw their way and
proclimed it the foundation of satanism. We never used a single pathetic
thing of theirs - NOT EVEN the Baphomet. What does that say, to anyone with
a brain? Even Barton admits it in her letter to me! She KNOWS it. That
fact is proven in published material, in copyrighted published material.
They advertised our stuff - presumably in exchange for "golden information."
They used our stuff. We never used theirs. I never used theirs.
If you continue to LIBEL me by insisting that I ever joined your
CORPORATION - well - enough of that, already? I hold your CORPORATION
responsible for lies.
You have proven to me, beyond a doubt, that Gilmore is lying thru his teeth
to you EVEN NOW. Yes, the man is a pathological liar. He doesn't DARE come
clean on it. It would prove that he lied thru his teeth TO ANTON HIMSELF
and did NOT tell him "Tani is YOUR ENEMY." I called the man a klippoth and
stated WHY he was one - in writing - long before he handed out honrary
titles. Obviously, the Gilmores were never OPEN with Anton about the way
our gang felt.
But in real life - with published facts, you can not possibly get around
this - the CHURCH OF SATAN used every single thing we handed them, even
scraps, and carelelessly handed out a high, VERY high title to a NON
MEMBER - you need to grasp that fact. An HONORARY TITLE in a CORPORATION
does not legally mean I am a part of that corporation at all. Published
fact. I did nothing to change that and heh heh, we all know HOW I "used"
that title, don't we know? To TRASH you, like a freaking spy inside your
own disgusting ranks. Anton handed me - A WEAPON.
More facts that you like to forget due to the pain involved, I USED that
title to GET THE DIRT from people that belonged to a sickening hierarchical
organization that HANDED ME the facts - they all too well showed me how much
they HATE each other to the bone, even collecting files against each other.
I then helped expose it all, their own words which they never denied! Agent
provocateur, Kevin. You can't get around that.
More facts, I never once used that stupid honorary title on ANYTHING I wrote
or published when it was doctrinal, article, whatever.
MORE facts: I used that title to write the WORST POSSIBLE posts "on behalf
of the CoS" even letting
your own hierarchy EDIT stuff and make it WORSE - and then I flamed highly
regarded members of that organization from WITHIN that organization and
signed them sarcastically "THE MAG." Even Egan's jaw was on the god
damned floor when he realized it. It was OBVIOUS to Jason Yuschenko who
figured it out very early on. You aren't quite as clever as Jason. And you
are also content to be lied to by Gilmore when heh - Kevin - my own deeds
prove what I'm saying to be true. DEEDS are real.
I can say nice shit about you right now. It would be easy to do. "Kevin
Filan should get a job as a political analyst. Kevin Filan writes great
articles fairly analyzing the situation in the middle east. Kevin Filan
should be made into an ambassador since he has ideas that would permanently
end the conflicts in the middle east." See? That's all true, imo. Watch
out for the knife aimed at your back, little buddy. I can also say great
stuff about LaVey. It's easy.
What I didn't like about the entier LaVey schtick has nothing to do with the
more-than-obvious street savvy he writes for the idiots in life's closet.
It has nothing to do with his music, which I happen to LIKE since I play
that kinda thing myself (sure I'd like it). It has to do with the FILTH he
purveyed - he opens up a road that leads to ophionic escapism and filth -
it's like a road paved with the sticky black mud, the self-loathing of a
failed man that NEVER got over losing his "vicarious son Micheal" - a
loser - himself, a miserable man who battered a wife, got disowned by a
daughter, and all but IGNORED his first daughter Karla, the nice one. His
road leads to no enlightenment, no uplifting. If anything, it's an eye
opener for people that lived in a closet and never met the hard knocks
streets. But otherwise, his advice is DETERMINED to lead to one thing:
escape from the self, more hatred, seething hatred, even - and nothing else.
There is no BEAUTY he has to share at all - there is only death, thanatos,
sex/death, twisted fetishism and hatred for everything alive. That is what
I SEE, Kevin. That is what I TOLD GILMORE I saw from day one. LOOK at
Gidney's website. That's some UGLY, TWISTED shit, it's HATRED being spewed
and venom being spat out. There is nothing of the true Darkness in it -
there is only the Christian HELL in there. All of that is the direct result
of LaVeyanism - that's what it CALLS OUT to. It calls out to the people who
enjoy HATING everything - including YOU. It never once calls out to beauty
or love. Never. Anton LaVey had no love in him. You have no love in YOU
either. None at all.
If you doubt any of this - go ask Lucinda from Satan Shop - she phoned me
when I first got online, and I'm sure HER jaw dropped too when she openly
heard what I had to say about Lavey. She was shocked. Ask Kaiden if you
doubt it - since I said it to him too long ago. COS represents nothing but
ugliness and hate. Hate for this, hate for that - and above all PETTINESS.
You want to be the sole definers of Satan. Oh, but you define it JUST like
the Christians define it and your DEEDS PROVE that, Kevin. Deeds are real.
Words mean nothing. My DEEDS toward the CoS were NEGATIVE from day one.
But then, they had a magazine that had people that could read OUR ad. Fine
by me - they get articles, they print ad. No problem. You seem to forget
that OLHP also handed out a high title and printed our ad and our stuff.
You seem to forget that Embassy also handed out a high title and printed our
ad. I was never a member of ANY of these organizations - and their
membership roster would confirm that! While the others were organizations,
CoSatan is a CORPORATION. I was never a member of it. My deeds were not
the deeds of a member. They were the deeds of an enemy.
I know, and you know, that you people are told who to flame, and who to talk
to. Unfortunately for you, your members REBEL against that - true to the
spirit of Satan.
Nothing much more to chat about, Filan. Repeating bullshit doesn't make it
true. LEGALLY, I was never a member of your CORPORATION.
Caliban
<mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote:
>On 12/27/03 9:32 AM, in article 9s5ruvcjslkm92r51...@4ax.com,
>"Caliban" <Cal...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> So not only does he defend the Yroningboards, but he uses the same
>> strategy - invading or threatening to invade real life. How nice.
>
>What is this distinction between "real life" and "Internet life" anyway?
>If you walk up to someone in real life and spew obscenities at them, you
>are likely to get punched in the face. Why should the Internet be any
>different? If you come trolling, don't be surprised if someone decides
>to play "Troll-B-Gone" ... and don't whine when you discover that they
>aren't interested in honoring your "don't take it to real life" rules.
You agreed to Terms of Service, and your veiled threat to Suzanne
violates any Terms of Service that I've ever read.
In real life, a punch in the face violates the law. In cyber-space,
making threats violates TOS. Clear?
>
>Suzanne's information is public: the fact that Suzanne's daughter was
>molested because Suzanne couldn't be bothered to watch her is also
>public info (put on Usenet by none other than Suzanne herself). As
>such, she can hardly complain when that public info winds up in a public
>forum. She's just lucky that no one has decided to take this a few steps
>further... yet. Perhaps she should just consider herself lucky and take
>her wrinkled, unfit-mothering ass out of here, no?
More threats. You just keep digging yourself that hole, Kevin.
>
>
>> Send a complaint to his ISP if you want to, Rhy. His post was totally
>> out of line.
>
>Nothing will happen. But do feel free to complain. Just like you
>feel free to brag about your imaginary books.
>
>I wonder what a little digging would produce on you... perhaps you would
>like to find out?
Whatever you like, Kevin. But rest assured that I'll follow up.
C
>
>Peace
>Kevin Filan
Caliban
Mohos...@yahoo.com
-------------------------------------------
"A bitter heart that bides its time and bites."
- Caliban in Robert Browning's "Caliban upon Setebos"
Prole
She sure does!
This is how Tani Jantsang really feels about pedophiles http://churchofsatan.org/tani.jpg
And N.A.M.B.L.A. is just a gay thing, right Tani?
edo
>
> "Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
> news:BC138B5B.409AD%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com...
> > On 12/27/03 7:08 PM, in article
> > G9pHb.3174$d4...@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "People's Commissar"
> > <tjs...@spam.com> wrote:
> >
> > <snip 100+ lines of frothing-at-the-mouth ranting)
>
> No 100+ lines of everything. And what I said is not a rant. What you say
> is CoSatan libel and threats - as usual.
> >
> > As I said before: nobody was talking to you, and nobody has wanted to
> > talk to you since we booted you out of the Church of Satan.
>
> 1. I was never IN the Church of Satan and claiming I was a dejure member
is
> LIBEL.
So sue YOURSELF you screeching hag!
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7tgj1p%24i0u%241%40nnrp1.deja.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7torik%2489v%241%40nnrp1.deja.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7tpan7%24hr7%241%40nnrp1.deja.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7u3o28%24uas%241%40nnrp1.deja.com
Prole
>
> The only organization that is seriously a laughing stock, if not for the
> vile off-line coersion and threat tactics you employ, is the CHURCH OF
> SATAN. Last but not least, Anton Lavey's trying to get the Aquinos (husband
> and wife) locked up by LYING to the CID in an army investigation. Great
> going, Tony.
What's REALLY funny is that Tani Jantsang would take the WORD of Aquino, a
known
Holocaust revisionist, with his-story of the CID playing classic god cop-bad
cop on his
quivering ass.
Imagine that! Tani Jantsang: a fag hag with a Nazi fetish. What would her friends
in the
ADL say?
Oh, I'm sorry, my bad! Tani Jantsang REALLY wants to GAS the JEWS http://
groups.google.com/groups?selm=7sos6r%241lh%241%40nnrp1.deja.com
Sieg Heil Tani! Sieg fucking Heil!
People's Commissar
I'm not gay.
But now - I know that it is a GAY PEDOPHILE thing - and that whole
organization NAMBLA bolsters up every single thing Phyllis Schafly and the
gay bashers say against gays.
Now the old idea that molestation is least likely to happen gay communities
is put to the question - and IGNORED. From what I can see, most of that
molestation is going on by adult men on small BOYS - not small girls.
Bwhahaha.
Congratulations!
"Prole" <fel...@satanicreds.org> wrote in message
news:6I2R7WNR3798...@Gilgamesh-Frog.org...
People's Commissar
here. A sissy that hides behing a faked nick and a computer. Bwaaak Bwaaaak
Bwaaaak.
"Prole" <si...@satanostalinists.org> wrote in message
news:2IM5Y95T3798...@Gilgamesh-Frog.org...
> People's Commissar wrote:
> >
> > The only organization that is seriously a laughing stock, if not for the
> > vile off-line coersion and threat tactics you employ, is the CHURCH OF
> > SATAN. Last but not least, Anton Lavey's trying to get the Aquinos
(husband
> > and wife) locked up by LYING to the CID in an army investigation. Great
> > going, Tony.
>
> What's REALLY funny is that Tani Jantsang would take the WORD of Aquino,
Try this jackass: THE WORD OF THE CID.
a
> known
> Holocaust revisionist, with his-story of the CID playing classic god
cop-bad
> cop on his
> quivering ass.
>
> Imagine that! Tani Jantsang: a fag hag with a Nazi fetish. What would her
friends
> in the
> ADL say?
I am not and never was a FAG HAG - I'm totally straight. I have no Nati
fetish, unless the idea of kicking Nazi ass is a fetish. Nope. Fetishes
are for freaks like yourself.
STRAIGHT people have rights too.
>
> Oh, I'm sorry, my bad! Tani Jantsang REALLY wants to GAS the JEWS http://
> groups.google.com/groups?selm=7sos6r%241lh%241%40nnrp1.deja.com
>
> Sieg Heil Tani! Sieg fucking Heil!
No, I want to gas YOU.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Prole
>
> The only organization that is seriously a laughing stock, if not for the
> vile off-line coersion and threat tactics you employ, is the CHURCH OF
> SATAN. Last but not least, Anton Lavey's trying to get the Aquinos (husband
> and wife) locked up by LYING to the CID in an army investigation. Great
> going, Tony.
What's REALLY funny is that YOU would take the WORD of Aquino, a known Holocaust
revisionist. Imagine that! A fag hag with a Nazi fetish. What would your friends
in the ADL
say?
Oh, I'm sorry, my bad! Tani Jantsang wants to GAS the JEWS
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7sos6r%241lh%241%40nnrp1.deja.com
__
Tani Jantsang bonds with former (?) NAMBLA member John Allee
http://churchofsatan.org/tani.jpg
People's Commissar
MORE Big GUNS? Well well, where is Victor or someone else to say "STOP
POSTING UNDER SO MANY NICKS?"
"edo" <nob...@cryptorebels.net> wrote in message
news:e443b1e574ff8fb0...@cryptorebels.net...
> People's Commissar wrote:
> >
> > "Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
> > news:BC138B5B.409AD%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com...
> > > On 12/27/03 7:08 PM, in article
> > > G9pHb.3174$d4...@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "People's
Commissar"
> > > <tjs...@spam.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip 100+ lines of frothing-at-the-mouth ranting)
> >
> > No 100+ lines of everything. And what I said is not a rant. What you
say
> > is CoSatan libel and threats - as usual.
> > >
> > > As I said before: nobody was talking to you, and nobody has wanted to
> > > talk to you since we booted you out of the Church of Satan.
> >
> > 1. I was never IN the Church of Satan and claiming I was a dejure member
> is
> > LIBEL.
>
> So sue YOURSELF you screeching hag!
Doesn't hold water, dear.
People's Commissar
provocateur. You know who dnai is that I was telling them to mail all their
INFORMATION to? The person who hosts the COS files, you dumbass.
The fact remains - not a member, not on their member roster. All Gilmore
would have had to do is TELL them that I'm not a member and NOT TO TELL ME
ANYTHING. But no, he didn't do that. FOOL.
That's the PITFALLS of having an organization that recognizes any kind of
hierarchy. I simply CLAIMED TO BE hierarchy, bwhwhaaa. SUCKER.
Screaching? Good gods man, you are the biggest laugh out there - and when I
see normal folks picking on your goofy satan poo members, I just sit back
and watch.
"edo" <nob...@cryptorebels.net> wrote in message
news:e443b1e574ff8fb0...@cryptorebels.net...
Dagon Productions
Caliban wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:22:10 -0600, "Rhyanon" <rhy...@pishoff.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>Oh, look, bitter boi has a DIFFERENT email account! Gee, what happened with
>>E - link, did you get.... TOS'D for "some" reason? hehehehehehe!!! Let's see
>>how long yer new account lasts after I forward yer threats to them. The
>>school district [sneeeeer] Good luck with that, limpdick. Gee, I mean, who
>>are they gonna believe, a person they physically know and have known for
>>years, or some filthy _SATANIST_ and internet stalker, associated with a
>>person who is being *investigated* for encouraging suicide? Hm.......
>>
>>
>
>So not only does he defend the Yroningboards, but he uses the same
>strategy - invading or threatening to invade real life. How nice.
>
>
>
Caliban... it's really incredible how far you have your head up your
ass. Posting to a
thread that Cat or Tyagi have posted to does not mean they support or
defend them...
but you and your cadre of butt monkeys just can't seem to get this
through your
thick skulls. Why don't you utilize the two brain cells you have
between your
ears and read what is written instead of your constant projections and
idiotic
and boorish ad hominems and come up with somthing constructive for a
change... I know this is asking a lot but we can only hope that you may
one day mature.
Dagon Productions
Caliban wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:07:21 GMT, Dagon Productions
><da...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Rhyanon wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Aww, poor smack slag junkie, you can't even discern reality enough to know
>>>yer hitched up to a LOOOOZZZZZZZAH! hehehehehehe!! [season's sneeeeeerings]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Ahhh... one of Calibans flying monkees chimes in with boorish ad hominem
>>attacks.
>>
>>Who exactly have I hitched up to?
>>
>>
>
>You wish you were "hitched" to Rhy, Douggie. The best you can do is
>tie some poor bitch up and pretend you're performing magick as you
>beat her.
>
>
>
In your dreams maybe... why would I want to get hitched to a bitch with
a kid?
The thought abhors me.
No pretending and the work of Stephen Flowers and the Order of the
Triskelion,
including many other magicians, as well as shamans throughout history
have found
that s/m techniques are a valid and effective means of gnosis. Hell
even Gardner
realized this.
You really have no idea what you are talking about. I guess it's out of
your
league.. but than anything outside the kiddie sandbox bullshit seems to be
out of your league.
People's Commissar
"Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
news:BC13A65E.409CA%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com...
> On 12/27/03 8:55 PM, in article Xns945EB649...@electric.hellfire,
> "VictorT" <vic...@blaspherionworld.zzn.com> wrote:
>
> >> And sure sure, it's OK for Filan to libel and threaten them in his
> >> attempt to CENSOR their posts?
> >>
> >
> > Is that what he's doing? I certainly hope he stops. This place doesn't
have
> > near enough entertainment these days.
>
> Oh, we can still count on Tani to provide us with endless entertainment.
I entertain when I wish to entertain (and usually know I'm doing it,
Filan....heh). Otherwise, I post some serious stuff, not just about
doctrine, but on transfats. SOMETHING has to work to make the bastards take
that poison OUT of our foods - and it's not gonna be the gov. Killing the
profits WILL do it. I do not fear Ritz or Saltines (Nabisco) griping about
that. When I posted and spread the word on the Ballard Fuel Cell at a time
when no one heard of such a thing, their stock shot up 100 points, LMAO.
>
> I'm baffled as to why Tani felt it necessary to hop into this little
> argument. Her name wasn't mentioned, nor did I even make a veiled
allusion
Your name wasn't mentioned either. You THREATENED them, Kevin. Why? It's
like you can't get that idea of "do not censor people"? You are trying to
stop them from posting. WHY?: They didn't post a WORD about the CoS or
you. I read your posts (that's why I saw it, LOL) because well, you write
good shit about political analysis and good solutions for the middle east.
I have NO idea what they are arguing about, but I can see they didn't bring
you or your org up. Yet there you were, making threats. Libeling Rhyannon
(I have NO idea who she is) and threatening her with the exact same things
you CLAIMED I threatened people with (oh, but I did no such thing).
> to any of her accomplishments (such as they are). I thought that she was
> now a proud leader of the Satanic Reds, an organization composed of REAL
> WORLD ACHIEVERS, whose doctrines are SOLID GOLD and 90% of whom have NEVER
> EVEN HEARD OF SATANISM.
No, they never heard of ALT.satanism and don't post to NEWSGROUPS period.
What are you taking lessons from poots now? He can't read or deduce a word
was left out - and neither can you?
And yet my brief return to this newsgroup (more out
> of boredom than anything else) sends her into a foaming-at-the-mouth
tirade
> that would have done Linda Blair proud.
Excuse me? And what you write is not Linda Blair, eh? Sure it is. You get
pent up. Then you come on here and start trouble with these strangers.
Btw, you told me that yourself! Remember? You libeled a woman and
threatened her. WHY? YOU hide behind a computer. Yet you out her. WHY?
For somebody who DOESN'T CARE about
> the Church of Satan, she sure does spend an awful lot of time posting
about
> us...
NO, you brought up the Church of Satan. I didn't. You constantly bring
that up, as if "repeat 10 times, TJ got booted out" is gonna make it true.
Repeat THIS ten times, idiot: "Tony handed out a high title to a HOTILE
that used it to FUCK OVER the CoS and hand over whatever she got to the
enemies of the CoS - and used that high title like a CLUB over the heads of
despicable serfs with a hierarchy mentality." DEEDS baby. Barton at least
was honest: she FELT so hurt, so deceived, so used, so gullible. Are you
calling Barton a LIAR? You know - heh - nothing personal against the woman,
but too bad. I'm serious about where the LaVeyan poison leads. Spiritual
stuff. I'm 100% serious about that. She worshiped Anton because he was
"the most EVIL man in the world." That woman IS an unfit mother. She's
nuts. Yet you go after Rhyannan?
far more time than I spend posting about, or thinking about, the
> Satanic Reds.
>
> others: obviously Tani is still smarting over her ejection from the Church
> of Satan.
THAT is exactly what I mean. You keep bringing that stupid shit up - yet
you ignore the DEEDS I actually did, using that fake title of Mag like a
weapon a spy would use against your own members. You keep bringing up the
CoS. I don't. YOU DO - and then, of course, I have to remind you one more
time that I was never a member!
You can't admit the ERROR they made, in giving a known hostile person a high
title - and then letting me pass myself off as a HIERARCH in your own org.
Your boo boo. You can't even ADMIT it. Deeds prove it. Your present HP
sat back and allowed Anton LAvey to hand over a high title, in his
hierarchal organization, to a KNOWN HOSTILE. Your HP sat back and let
highly regarded respected members HAND OVER BAD INFO, to a known hostile
that your HP just let them think was a "hierarch." I have to admit, I was
SHOCKED at the sheer stupidity of it. How could he not know? Gilmore, of
all people, knows damned well I can say glowing things about a person I have
no respect for at all on the only level that matters when it comes to the
Dark Force: LaVey leads the way to inner hell and a hellish state of being
for most people that get involved too deep. Look at your top people: The
Gidneys? The Davises? DISASTERS - they are fucking psychos. I sincerely
believe that some Born Again Christians could have rescued those people FROM
THEMSELVES. I really believe that.
You can't even admit what Blanche Barton herself admitted: SHE WAS DUPED -
SHE TRUSTED A HOSTILE PERSON.
Whatever the case, she really needs to get over us and move on.
> We certainly have gotten over her.
You don't act like it - you KEEP bringing the CoS up whenever I get into a
confrontation with you over YOUR libeling and bullying strangers.
>
> <Tani: this is the part where you jump in screaming you NEVER WERE a
member
> of the Church of Satan... and where someone else posts copies of your
posts
> from 1999 and 2000 bragging about how you are "a MAGISTRA in the CHURCH OF
> SATAN, the ONLY REAL SATANIC ORGANIZATION" etc. We all know this dance by
> now, and I'm sure you'll be ready to dance a few more reels of the
> Spankard's Tango for us yet again... >
You know, I told you that I - and anyone posting as me - did that ONLINE.
But
BEHIND THEIR BACKS? IN REAL LIFE? Obviously - I DID something completely
the opposite. Are you calling Barton a liar? At least she has the courage
to admit - she was DUPED.
You're gonna have to accept that fact - because it is a fact. You handed a
HOSTILE a high degree and let me do agent provocateur shit in your own org.
>
> Suzanne "Rhyannon" Simmons is a shrieking slag, who occasionally needs to
be
Everyone is a shrieking hag or slag or gag or zag or nag or rag heh heh.
Except you.
I think YOU are a shriedking *h*ag or *sl*ag. LMAO.
> reminded of her (low) place in the order of things. She's sorta like Tani
I take no medicine for any such thing. However, everyone you personally
know DOES, including your ephedra thing. Speed.
You are not a foul mouthed mother fucker? Want me to google up your
"Aquino's mother in hell" posts? You set the tone for foul mouthery, Kevin.
You are the Original Worst Mouth on here. You don't fool anyone.
Caliban
<da...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>Caliban wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:22:10 -0600, "Rhyanon" <rhy...@pishoff.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Oh, look, bitter boi has a DIFFERENT email account! Gee, what happened with
>>>E - link, did you get.... TOS'D for "some" reason? hehehehehehe!!! Let's see
>>>how long yer new account lasts after I forward yer threats to them. The
>>>school district [sneeeeer] Good luck with that, limpdick. Gee, I mean, who
>>>are they gonna believe, a person they physically know and have known for
>>>years, or some filthy _SATANIST_ and internet stalker, associated with a
>>>person who is being *investigated* for encouraging suicide? Hm.......
>>>
>>>
>>
>>So not only does he defend the Yroningboards, but he uses the same
>>strategy - invading or threatening to invade real life. How nice.
>>
>>
>>
>Caliban... it's really incredible how far you have your head up your
>ass. Posting to a
>thread that Cat or Tyagi have posted to does not mean they support or
>defend them...
But Kevin does, and so do you.
Caliban
<da...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>Caliban wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:07:21 GMT, Dagon Productions
>><da...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Rhyanon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Aww, poor smack slag junkie, you can't even discern reality enough to know
>>>>yer hitched up to a LOOOOZZZZZZZAH! hehehehehehe!! [season's sneeeeeerings]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Ahhh... one of Calibans flying monkees chimes in with boorish ad hominem
>>>attacks.
>>>
>>>Who exactly have I hitched up to?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>You wish you were "hitched" to Rhy, Douggie. The best you can do is
>>tie some poor bitch up and pretend you're performing magick as you
>>beat her.
>>
>>
>>
>In your dreams maybe... why would I want to get hitched to a bitch with
>a kid?
>The thought abhors me.
I'm sure Rhy will be disappointed to know that. You're such a catch!
>
>No pretending and the work of Stephen Flowers and the Order of the
>Triskelion,
>including many other magicians, as well as shamans throughout history
>have found
>that s/m techniques are a valid and effective means of gnosis. Hell
>even Gardner
>realized this.
>
>You really have no idea what you are talking about. I guess it's out of
>your
>league.. but than anything outside the kiddie sandbox bullshit seems to be
>out of your league.
Doogie, when I read the poorly written, near-incomprehensible
dribbling mish-mash of Levay, de Sade and Leary that you incorporate
into your ridiculous S/M ritual in your book, well all I can say is
that anyone who wants to know what you're all about should spend a few
minutes scanning that tripe. What a mess.
By the way, I see you've dropped your website sig. Did I hit a nerve?
>
>-Douglas
Ze alluring ailurophile
>From: Kevin Filan mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com
>Date: 12/27/2003 6:43 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <BC1383E6.40996%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com>
>
>On 12/27/03 5:59 PM, in article
>k9oHb.3116$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "People's Commissar"
><tjs...@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> You just can't resist.
>
>Tani, nobody was talking to you. So why don't you shut your flapping,
>liver-spotted hole, go spend the rest of ol' Asscancer's money, and wish
>that you had children who still talked to you?
>
>Peace
>Kevin Filan
Wow, someone give this jerk the misogynist of the year award. He really could
make a fine home on Soc. Men.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Some people say that cats are sneaky, evil, and cruel. True, and they have
many other fine qualities as well." - Missy Dizick
People's Commissar
THE NEWS. See in.
"VictorT" <vic...@blaspherionworld.zzn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns945EB649...@electric.hellfire...
> "People's Commissar" <tjs...@spam.com> wrote in
> news:yXoHb.3164$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>
> > I don't get it.
> >
> > They are kooks for having a miff (about just what, I'm not even sure).
> > But Tyagi and Cat are not kooks when a licensed MD, Doctor of
> > Psychiatry says they are not only kooks, but psychotic, psychopathic
> > and dangerous?
>
> Tyagi and Cat are certainly k00ks. Nobody's denying that one. They're also
> poseurs who routinely spout reams and reams of endless gibberish in an
> attempt to convince themselves that they a) matter and b) know what they
> are talking about. Neither of which is the case, of course.
He trashed a super crunched short paragraph I wrote about "Gnostisicm" which
was very in-general - but it was accurate. At first, the original, perhaps
pre Plato Gnosis groups had an Idea - not necessarily a deity at all. But
later on, Gnosticism was dualistic in the extreme, and it was not so much
about which gods - but their behavior, their practices were - CRAZY. R. E.
L. Masters wrote quite a bit about these groups in "Eros and Evil." The
Manichaeans were a prime example, too. No matter what they called the gods
in the scenario - Jehova or God - versus Lucifer or The Demiurge - it was
always either of these two ways:
1. Top God (fill in name) is good, but bottom god (Lucifer, Demiurge, etc)
is evil because we are FLESH due to that god, and flesh is evil. Making
more flesh is evil. Making babies is evil. Kill babies (THEY DID!).
2. Top God is evil because it condemns the bottom god (demiurge, whatever) -
and flesh is good - and hence you have the equivalent of "BATH HOUSE"
mentality in these cults.
Both of these types, the way I see it two sides of one coin, had an
obsession with the flesh - no matter if one was bath house mentality and the
other was (tried to be, heh) the opposite. People who mutilate themselves -
are CRAZY. People who go to bathhouses are NUTS - and having "AIDS parties"
where they invite an infected person to infect someone randomly is NUTS. I
don't "buy" the bs about "lifestyle" at all. It's a death-style.
But anyway, this is correct and very very in-general about Gnostic cults out
there in the past - and he got all over me telling me to read heaps of books
on it. Yeah, he can read them and if they are legit - he'll conclude the
same two basic format for Gnostic cults - dualism. The oldest Gnosis cults
(Gnosis is not the same as Gnostic-ISM) weren't dualist at all. Gnosis is
just a term for a certain KIND of knowing something - i.e., it's not logic
or nous or episteme or sophia. The Hellenes had certain things really
broken up into specifics.
>
> One of the high-points of my entire usenet career was several months ago
> when Cat broke in to a conversation I was having with Ryan, pretending to
> know something about Orff's _Carmina Burana_ after what appeared to be a
> minimal google search; when in fact she knew nothing about it.
Heh, I didn't see any of that (you were killfiled at the time). My
killfiles vanish if I delete an account and remake it due to a problem in my
computer. Hence, I can see your posts now - no one is killfiled yet.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=
> 3E58008B.718D947C%40luckymojo.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DCarmina%
> 2BBurana%2Bgroup:alt.satanism%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%
> 26selm%3D3E58008B.718D947C%2540luckymojo.com%26rnum%3D1
Hmm, I looked - I don't have a clue what you people are talking about, or
WHO is talking on there. You are talking about the opera?
>
> A bigger pair of dumbasses I doubt I've seen.
Below is "THE NEWS." I don't know where they post their stuff or keep up
with CoE . Tyagi sent me a copy of a few issues once, a long time ago - he
was 19 years old at the time, and it was funny as hell. I mean, I thought
the org was supposed to be funny. But if they are saying this kind of thing
to people who are depressed, for whatever reason - that is Not Very Good.
They could get sued if they tell a person to off themselves and the person
does it! And the "he's a satanist" part will make Big News, you bet.
THE NEWS
INTERNATIONAL EXPOSURE on the BBC, where in a broadcast titled
"Surfing for Suicide" he (Tyagi) was described as "psychopathic" by
an Oxford University professor of psychiatry, who called for
his prosecution. The BBC itself dubbed him a "predator."
FROM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2003/11_november/13/s
uicide.shtml
BBC Press Release
13.11.03
FIVE LIVE
Prosecute the suicide "encouragers", psychiatrists tell Five Live
The Five Live Report - Surfing for Suicide, Sunday 16 November, 7.30-8.00pm,
BBC
Radio Five Live, 909 & 693 AM
Suicide websites and newsgroups that encourage vulnerable people to end
their
own lives are as dangerous as paedophile websites are to children, a leading
authority on suicides has told BBC Radio Five Live.
Professor Mark Williams of Oxford University Department of Psychiatry
practices
at the Warneford Hospital in the city.
He described people who post messages encouraging others to commit suicide
as
"psychopaths" and warned the Government to take such sites seriously.
Meanwhile the father of a teenager who committed suicide after visiting
suicide
sites asks in the report how people encouraging vulnerable people can live
with
themselves.
He was backed in his warnings by Professor Colin Pritchard - a suicide
expert at
Bournemouth University.
The Five Live Report investigates "the encouragers".
The report also tracks a so called predator dubbed Boboroshi - a user on the
suicide newsgroups who believes suicide is the "way to go" and that it's his
"job" to encourage others to kill themselves.
(THAT IS VERY NOT GOOD!!!!)
At the inquest into the death of Michael Gooden, the coroner called on the
police to put greater resources into detecting and preventing such internet
activities.
The Government's National Suicide Prevention Strategy for England failed to
make
any mention of the internet.
But the Department of Health has since issued a statement saying they will
"investigate the legality and feasibility of censuring websites which
promote or
encourage people to take their own lives".
FROM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3270709.stm
'Predators'
Additional cyber searching reveals an individual using the name 'boboroshi'.
He
posted long, detailed articles advocating suicide as well as responding to
postings with tips and advice on the most effective method to kill yourself.
One posting contained the line: "This article is an attempt to provide
encouragement for suicide."
In another he responds to a young man who calls himself "joe junior" and
writes:
"I need help in killing myself. I know I need to do it, but the courage to
do so
has thus far escaped me."
Boboroshi's response was swift - a suicide recipe.
Mark Williams at Oxford University's Department of Psychiatry works closely
with
suicidal people and has conducted research and written widely on the
subject.
Asked to comment on boboroshi's postings, Mark Williams said: "At this point
it
gets pretty psychopathic, it's without any guilt, it's aggressive, and it's
treating other people as objects instead of human beings."
******
To hear the whole broadcast cut and paste into your browser window
rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio5/flreport_20031116.ra
or go to
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/fivelive_aod.shtml?flreport5
and scroll down to the bottom where it says "Surfing for Suicide - Sunday 16
November".
Kevin Filan
"Caliban" <Cal...@nospam.com> wrote:
> You agreed to Terms of Service, and your veiled threat to Suzanne
> violates any Terms of Service that I've ever read.
Obviously, Earthlink disagrees with you.
But do keep sending them e-mail, Raven. I'm sure they find it amusing.
> In real life, a punch in the face violates the law. In cyber-space,
> making threats violates TOS. Clear?
Earthlink's opinion apparently differs from yours. And their opinion is
really the one that counts, isn't it, Mr. Blackbane?
>>> Send a complaint to his ISP if you want to, Rhy. His post was totally
>>> out of line.
>>
>> Nothing will happen. But do feel free to complain. Just like you
>> feel free to brag about your imaginary books.
>>
>> I wonder what a little digging would produce on you... perhaps you would
>> like to find out?
>
> Whatever you like, Kevin. But rest assured that I'll follow up.
And rest assured that nothing will happen.
Speaking of terrorist threats: I wonder what your publisher would feel if
you were associated with some of the Raven Blackbane spewage? I know you
threatened Cat Yronwode with a libel suit for linking the two of you:
perhaps you can threaten me with a lawsuit as well. It will be at least as
amusing *ahem* effective.
Peace
Kevin Filan
Kevin Filan
FBtHb.3499$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "People's Commissar"
<tjs...@spam.com> wrote:
> Hi Kevin. Edo is YOU.
Actually, no... but if it makes you feel better to imagine that there's some
vast Church of Satan conspiracy working overtime to discredit you, feel
free. It's not like you're going to do anything about it, and I'm sure it's
more comfortable for you to blame your failures on others.
Peace
Kevin Filan
People's Commissar
said a few other "clues" on there to Lu. Heh - nothing discredits me. I
can say the worst TRUTH about me - against which the worst libel you can
dream up PALES. I don't personally give a fuck about any of it, Filan.
If you think, LMAO I gave a flying shit about "personality" crap - do you
think I'd have posted some of the stuff I posted? LMAO - get freaking real.
Go fix the make up - and have a nice day.
"Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
news:BC140EFA.40AA4%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com...
Rhyanon
"Wintershard" <n...@home.org> wrote in message
news:r8hruv41ctn1j0qmq...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:44:01 GMT, n...@home.org wrote:
>
> Blech. I hate setting up differing computers. 'Twas me.
>
> Bright be thy day in the sun,
> Wintershard
> wintershard.alt-religion-wicca.com
> ARW Website: www.Alt-Religion-Wicca.com
Rhyanon
Uh, whore? He was referring to YOU.
"lorax666" <yronwode.com@nagasiva> wrote in message
news:3GkHb.5132$XF6.1...@typhoon.sonic.net...
> CaliLilly:
> #># The Yronwodes, with their various attempts at invading our privacy,
> #># have resulted in our giving that information to only a handfull of
> #># ARW regulars, I'm afraid.
>
> the nicer Yronwode responds, amused:
> #>LOL! put the back of your hand on your forehead when you post that!
>
> n...@home.org [What, no 'Wintershard'?]:
> # You know, as an aside,
>
> ok, but I'm keeping it in context. :>
>
> # I find it interesting on how, when the
> # Internet first arose, those people that sought out information on
> # others were thought of as outcasts: weird, odd, dangerous.
>
> I never noticed that. I only saw compliments for info provided.
> you mean 'PI'? maybe, yeah.
>
> # Yet now
> # that the Internet has become mainstream, those people that would
> # rather information about themselves become hard to find
>
> this is why I kept it in context. CaliLilly is not acting in ways
> which are conducive to this objective, Winter. they're picking fights
> with people repeatedly who have been known to look up information
> about others. it is a goad, a kind of subtle dare. if one cares
> enough to pursue the buzzing fly and to look beyond the killfiles,
> one of us will track him down and then he can whine some more about
> being the 'target of horrible people'.
>
> realize where this started, as a dig at competitive professionals
> (i.e. it is commonplace for unbalanced authors to use the internet
> as a means of getting to their peers anonymously, attempting to
> undermine their confidence and distract them from their works).
>
> some find their fantasized rivals awesome and a reason to fear and
> so try to scare them off with socks and trollish behaviour. in the
> limelight associated with their obsessive target, they barely glean
> a bit of what they cannot otherwise have: attention for their work.
>
> those who troll about in usenet are not trying to conceal their
> identities in the same way that the early days' posters had. they
> are trying to use their concealed identities to avoid being
> responsible for the unrest, flurry, and umbrage they incite on
> the part of those who are unused to their forays into the
> unknown areas where their betters dwell.
>
> # are looked at as the outcasts: weird, strange in some way, have
> # something to hide.
>
> that's NOT how I see CaliLilly. they're just sad, pitiful, really.
>
> # Just an observation.
>
> thanks!
>
> lorax666
Rhyanon
a stalker as well. He'll soon find out how severely Texas frowns on stalkers
should he try to escalate his psychotic and delusional behavor.
"Joker & Harley at Arkham" <v...@pacbe11.ent> wrote in message
news:3FEDE5B9...@pacbell.net...
> Kevin,
>
> You know me from Nanae, Rhy is a good person. The allegations made by
> one party and his socks have all been proved false.
>
> The war with Cat started years ago and was enhanced when Cat and her
> people made a troll page with personal info on it.
>
> This war has many layers of mud on it, so I advise you not to believe
> everything you hear from either side.
>
> Harley
>
>
> >
> > >Subject: Re: BN Books & Cat Y (was Re: Hoodoo Book (was: Thelemic
> > >From: Kevin Filan mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com
> > >Date: 12/26/2003 8:32 PM Eastern Standard Time
> > >Message-id: <BC124BC7.407D8%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com>
>
>
>
> --
> Boycott Starbucks
> http://www.haidabuckscafe.com/
> Reply to vyl at pacbell dot net
Rhyanon
"evaeldeva" <evae...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:45fae8b6.03122...@posting.google.com...
> zeka...@aol.commiescum (Ze alluring ailurophile) wrote in message
news:<20031227020059...@mb-m29.aol.com>...
> > >Subject: Re: BN Books & Cat Y (was Re: Hoodoo Book (was: Thelemic
> > >From: Kevin Filan mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com
> > >Date: 12/26/2003 8:32 PM Eastern Standard Time
> > >Message-id: <BC124BC7.407D8%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com>
> > >
> > >Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Rhyanon wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Aww, poor smack slag junkie, you can't even discern reality enough
to
> > know
> > >>> yer hitched up to a LOOOOZZZZZZZAH! hehehehehehe!! [season's
> > sneeeeeerings]
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Ahhh... one of Calibans flying monkees chimes in with boorish ad
hominem
> > >> attacks.
> > >>
> > >> Who exactly have I hitched up to?
> > >
> > >spewing at various targets instead of taking care of her children.
That's
> > >why her daughter got molested by a stranger: Suzanne was busy playing
> > >on the internet instead of watching out for her children.
> > >
> > >It would be a shame if someone called up her school district and let
> > >them know that Suzanne was an unfit mother. Seeing as how her address
> > >is public record, it would be a pretty simple thing to do. Perhaps
> > >Suzanne should think about that the next time she considers posting to
> > >alt.satanism.
> > >
> > >(Suzanne: this is the part where you spew more crude foulmouthed abuse.
> > >Maybe you can even send a complaint to Earthlink, trying to get my
> > >account pulled. Of course, you'll fail at that, just like you failed
> > >to protect your daughter from a pervert. But it will certainly provide
> > >us with some amusement).
> > >
> > >Peace
> > >Kevin Filan
> >
> >
> > Is this creep perhaps a fOt incognito? Very, very disgusting.
> >
> >
>
> Nah, Kev is just a Satnaist without a hard-on
Whatta coincidince! fOt is an xstain without a hard on.
Rhyanon
I like how you try to convince yourself that yer crack induced imaginings
are true. It makes you that much more the ranting psychopath, hgee hee hee!
BTW, I say what I want, when I want, to whomever I want -- real life, usenet
or otherwise, and were any cocksucking whore to try and punch me, I'd break
their fuckless neck, capice?
--
"Us Witches will always be alright, dear. Remember, we happen to other
people..."
~Nanny Ogg~
"Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
news:BC132026.40907%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com...
> On 12/27/03 9:32 AM, in article
9s5ruvcjslkm92r51...@4ax.com,
> "Caliban" <Cal...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > So not only does he defend the Yroningboards, but he uses the same
> > strategy - invading or threatening to invade real life. How nice.
>
> What is this distinction between "real life" and "Internet life" anyway?
> If you walk up to someone in real life and spew obscenities at them, you
> are likely to get punched in the face. Why should the Internet be any
> different? If you come trolling, don't be surprised if someone decides
> to play "Troll-B-Gone" ... and don't whine when you discover that they
> aren't interested in honoring your "don't take it to real life" rules.
>
> Suzanne's information is public: the fact that Suzanne's daughter was
> molested because Suzanne couldn't be bothered to watch her is also
> public info (put on Usenet by none other than Suzanne herself). As
> such, she can hardly complain when that public info winds up in a public
> forum. She's just lucky that no one has decided to take this a few steps
> further... yet. Perhaps she should just consider herself lucky and take
> her wrinkled, unfit-mothering ass out of here, no?
>
>
> > Send a complaint to his ISP if you want to, Rhy. His post was totally
> > out of line.
>
> Nothing will happen. But do feel free to complain. Just like you
> feel free to brag about your imaginary books.
>
> I wonder what a little digging would produce on you... perhaps you would
> like to find out?
>
> Peace
> Kevin Filan
>
Rhyanon
balless whoreson tries anything with me, the cops'll get an eyeful of what
he's all about! Thanks, man!
"People's Commissar" <tjs...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:aoqHb.3242$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> I was never a member of the Church of Shit - er, Satan. FACT. Neither
did
> I ever pay to join it, submit an application to join it, or BEHAVE AS IF I
> WAS IN IT. Handing me a title (a really dumbfuck act, ya think?) when I
was
> known too well off line to be SO HOSTILE to it by Gilmore (the man with
> Tony's ear, after all) I merely became an agent provocateur WITHIN your
> org - or worse - he he.
>
> You should appreciate the IRONY. Suckers.
>
> You really don't seem to appreciate how much VENOM I handed Gilmore
> personally against the CoS and ALL that it represented - from DAY ONE,
> Kevin. You really don't seem to have a clue about that. Hmm! You just
> told me something, whether you realize that or not.
>
> And the WHAT of Gidney? Plight? I spit on him, her, the whole TWISTED
> FILTH that they represent, especially their sick, putrid "advice" to other
> women.
>
> You should be so happy that I just INFORMED YOU that their filth website
was
> still up there. LMAO. Say "thank you," Kevin. You're welcome.
>
> "Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
> news:BC139729.409BF%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com...
>
>
Rhyanon
"Dagon Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FEE3C56...@earthlink.net...
> Quit being such a dumbass.
You first.
Rhyanon
stalk me.. Wouldn't it be fun to get him thrown in jail, or ruin him
financially by suing him for libel? Wheeeee!!
"People's Commissar" <tjs...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:k9oHb.3116$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> You just can't resist.
>
> "Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
> news:BC132026.40907%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com...
> > On 12/27/03 9:32 AM, in article
> 9s5ruvcjslkm92r51...@4ax.com,
> > "Caliban" <Cal...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> > > So not only does he defend the Yroningboards, but he uses the same
> > > strategy - invading or threatening to invade real life. How nice.
> >
> > What is this distinction between "real life" and "Internet life" anyway?
>
> Osamma bin Ladin's guys can't easily check real life things, or
DISTORTIONS
> of real life that you are SO fond of presenting (it's called libel). The
> world can see what's posted in a newsgroup. That's the difference.
>
> > If you walk up to someone in real life and spew obscenities at them, you
> > are likely to get punched in the face.
>
> Well, it's about time you realize that. So where do YOU live?
>
> Why should the Internet be any
> > different? If you come trolling, don't be surprised if someone decides
> > to play "Troll-B-Gone" ... and don't whine when you discover that they
> > aren't interested in honoring your "don't take it to real life" rules.
> >
> > Suzanne's information is public: the fact that Suzanne's daughter was
> > molested because Suzanne couldn't be bothered to watch her is also
> > public info (put on Usenet by none other than Suzanne herself). As
> > such, she can hardly complain when that public info winds up in a public
> > forum. She's just lucky that no one has decided to take this a few
steps
> > further... yet.
>
> THREATS again? Are you also going to hack into her bank account the way
you
> hacked into Michael Aquino's bank account? You know, Tyagi and Cat have
a
> miff with these people. No threats were made until YOU showed up. This
is
> typical Filan ala Church of Satan attempt to censor by making threats.
>
> Perhaps she should just consider herself lucky and take
> > her wrinkled, unfit-mothering ass out of here, no?
>
> LIBEL again? Any child walking home could get flashed by a stranger. And
> whereas the WORLD can see what you write in this newsgroup, the WORLD is
not
> likely to go looking up what the woman posted on a website if the URL is
not
> posted. But let's talk about the mother who married the pedophile, which
> would be "Wife Abuser Number TWO" no less. No? You know, the couple
> (pedophile and abused woman) representing your brand of SATANISM on
national
> TV to the world. You know, the best friends, close up and personal, of
the
> HP and HPess of YOUR org that somehow, in some way, "did not know" this
shit
> was going on when they personally knew and hung out with the couple? Btw,
> where do YOU live, Kevin? What, afraid to tell everyone?
> >
> >
> > > Send a complaint to his ISP if you want to, Rhy. His post was totally
> > > out of line.
> >
> > Nothing will happen. But do feel free to complain. Just like you
> > feel free to brag about your imaginary books.
> >
> > I wonder what a little digging would produce on you... perhaps you would
> > like to find out?
> >
> > Peace
>
> When you write "peace" - you really mean WAR. You turned a simple flame
> miff where there wasn't any threat - into a threat war and a libel game.
> Biblical defininition of Satan: A LIAR FROM THE BEGINNING.
>
> > Kevin Filan
>
> Tani Jantsang.
> >
>
>
Rhyanon
> On 12/27/03 9:22 AM, in article vur58rc...@corp.supernews.com,
"Rhyanon"
> <rhy...@pishoff.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Oh, look, bitter boi has a DIFFERENT email account! Gee, what happened
with
> > E - link, did you get.... TOS'D for "some" reason? hehehehehehe!!! Let's
see
> > how long yer new account lasts after I forward yer threats to them.
>
> your child failed. You'll just have to sit and whimper and deal with
> your emotional scars, just like your daughter has to deal with the
> consequences of your failure to protect her from a pervert.
I like how you project from your pathetic life to try and insult others. So,
what did Father Flanagan do to you, kevvy?
>
> Do you really think anyone cares about the complaints of an Internet
> troll and unfit mother?
Do you think anyone cares about the complaints of a filthy satanist and
pedo - supporter like you?
If so, keep on sending them in... I'm sure
> you're providing them with plenty of amusement. They may even have
> your rants posted on the bulletin board, so that all the other techs
> can laugh at you as well.
Really? If so, I'll get 'em fired, cos that's not professional behavior. But
then, I'm rather sure that's a product of your drug addled imagination as
well.
>
> > The
> > school district [sneeeeer] Good luck with that, limpdick. Gee, I mean,
who
> > are they gonna believe, a person they physically know and have known for
> > years, or some filthy _SATANIST_ and internet stalker, associated with
a
> > person who is being *investigated* for encouraging suicide? Hm.......
>
> Most likely they will bring your daughter in and ask her what she
> thinks.
No worries there. BTW, which daughter? You don't even know how many kids I
do or don't have, you shitferbrains yroningborgs' sycophant.
They will also send a social worker to your home to see what
> kind of living conditions your daughter has to endure.
Again, no worries there.
I suppose the
> social worker's word will carry more weight than yours... particularly
> since it will be properly spelled.
If so, that's when we'll get on the good old internet and start getting YOUR
info, and track you down from there. The law frowns upon people who waste
their time with false allegations -- there's even a law against it, but I'm
sure you already know that.
>
> You may want to clean your house: you wouldn't want the child
> protection authorities coming in and finding your place a mess.
>
Really? Are you stupid enough to think that's the reason children get taken
from homes, is over unkempt lawns, or scruffy paint? You don't sup[pose they
might take notice of the actual content and atmosphere of the family home?
Why, I bet you nbever thought of THAT, being as that yer not exactly trained
in social work, and those visits from the nice police about your satanistic
doings don't count.....
> You do know that it's standard operating procedure for child
> protection services to investigate ANY complaint, right? And
> you do know that I may not be the one sending in the complaint;
> you've made lots of enemies online, all of whom have telephones
> and all of whom are quite capable of filing complaints on their
> own. And, as I said, complaints about child abuse are always
> investigated -- unlike complaints to ISPs, which are most often
> ignored, particularly when they come from trolls like yourself.
See above. And thanks for the advice; instead of getting you TOS'D, I'll see
about having you investigated for stalking. You must really like the nice
policemen to want them to visit you so often.
>
> (Suzanne: this is the part where you threaten me with your kung fu
> skills or scream about how you are going to shoot me).
Your spineless, balless, weak, satan worshipping ass has nothing to worry
about unless you try to physically confront me, and then you may have some
trouble. But you like troule, don't you? The nice policemen and the boss who
fired you can attest to that.
>
> Have a happy holiday.
>
> And kiss your daughters while you still have custody.
>
> Peace
> Kevin Filan
>
Rhyanon
> Of course, there is also trouble to be had if a person knowingly files a
> FALSE complaint and states anything that is not true.
Indeed. Any personal info you have on this shitlicker, be it his home addy,
phone, why he got fired, by whom and from what company, his activities as a
satanist, I would appreciate it.
Rhyanon
evidence on this fuckless freak.
"People's Commissar" <tjs...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:HToHb.3160$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
> "Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
> news:BC131AF5.408FB%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com...
> >
> > You do know that it's standard operating procedure for child
> > protection services to investigate ANY complaint, right? And
> > you do know that I may not be the one sending in the complaint;
> > you've made lots of enemies online, all of whom have telephones
> > and all of whom are quite capable of filing complaints on their
> > own.
>
> You mean, like that Christian guy and the FCoS people who got forwards of
> those emails about Barton? They may have done it. Barton suddenly beat a
> fast retreat and is no longer the HP of your orgnanization. I certainly
> wouldn't do such a thing. Frankly, I'm too lazy. But some of these
people
> were hell bent determined to get even for what your pals did. Me? I
never
> even gave them her phone number - but I obviously COULD HAVE. Nope, I was
> content to forward only info provided by one of your own pals. Let anyone
> come search my hard drive to see. IDGAF baby.
>
> And, as I said, complaints about child abuse are always
> > investigated -- unlike complaints to ISPs, which are most often
> > ignored, particularly when they come from trolls like yourself.
>
> They are trolls for having a miff with Tyagi and Cat? But Tyagi and Cat
are
> not trolls for having a miff with them. Hmm, how strange.
> >
> > (Suzanne: this is the part where you threaten me with your kung fu
> > skills or scream about how you are going to shoot me).
>
> Well, see Filan - that contradicts what you just wrote about punches in
the
> face. You HIDE behind a computer. But you don't want these people to
HIDE
> behind a computer. You know, there is such a thing as a right to privacy.
> She can't do kung fu on you or shoot you because she doesn't know where
you
> are. However, lots of gays are in the former FCOS or present one. You DO
go
> to gay functions. Your picture was posted by yourself on the web. You
> never know. People get shot over far less than what you like to do.
> >
> > Have a happy holiday.
> >
> > And kiss your daughters while you still have custody.
>
> How are the Gidney children, since you brought it up? Is Mrs. Gidney
still
> so terrified of William Gidney that she wants to only confront him by
> telephonic in court? How is Barton's son? You opened that can of worms,
> Filan. But then, you always DO stuff like that. How is Russel Smith
doing,
> since he was in the Church of Satan practicing his "satanic religion" by
> molesting his minor daughter? His defense against pedophilia? He was
> practicing his Satanic Religion - he said. It's on record now.
>
> You know, there were no grounds for Satanic Ritual Abuse back then, but
now,
> with what some of your organization's members doing all this crap and
> getting caught - there is grounds. William Gidney, Russel Smith, that
other
> guy - Goad or whatever his name is, in jail for beating up women. Now, if
> Ygraine didn't get her kids yanked from her for 1. marrying two abusers;
2,
> being present while pedophilia is going on - then I fail to see how a
> flasher flashing a kid if going to mean jack squat when it comes to this
> woman being a good mother. How much did YOU know about the abused and
> battered kiddie raping Gidney situation? After all, YOU ALSO KNEW THEM
> close up and personal.
>
> That you make threats right now against someone, in the vain attempt to
> censor them - is just more evidence of SRA TYPE behavior.
> >
> > Peace
> > Kevin Filan
>
> You don't know the meaning of the word peace.
> >
>
>
Rhyanon
"People's Commissar" <tjs...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:mEnHb.3096$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Hey, wait a minute....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/vadyan.html
>
> And DATS Offishul.
>
> "Dagon Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:3FECDB4D...@earthlink.net...
> >
> >
> > Rhyanon wrote:
> >
> > >Aww, poor smack slag junkie, you can't even discern reality enough to
> know
> > >yer hitched up to a LOOOOZZZZZZZAH! hehehehehehe!! [season's
> sneeeeeerings]
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Ahhh... one of Calibans flying monkees chimes in with boorish ad hominem
> > attacks.
> >
> > Who exactly have I hitched up to?
> >
Rhyanon
ironic place name for such a reeksome little shite like you. Oh, I don't
expect you to admit it, I just wanted you to know that others know how to
use white pages, too.
Caliban
<mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote:
>On 12/27/03 9:45 PM, in article kjgsuvk9sv61sishc...@4ax.com,
>"Caliban" <Cal...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> You agreed to Terms of Service, and your veiled threat to Suzanne
>> violates any Terms of Service that I've ever read.
>
>Obviously, Earthlink disagrees with you.
>
>But do keep sending them e-mail, Raven.
Who?
> I'm sure they find it amusing.
>
>
>> In real life, a punch in the face violates the law. In cyber-space,
>> making threats violates TOS. Clear?
>
>Earthlink's opinion apparently differs from yours. And their opinion is
>really the one that counts, isn't it, Mr. Blackbane?
>
>>>> Send a complaint to his ISP if you want to, Rhy. His post was totally
>>>> out of line.
>>>
>>> Nothing will happen. But do feel free to complain. Just like you
>>> feel free to brag about your imaginary books.
>>>
>>> I wonder what a little digging would produce on you... perhaps you would
>>> like to find out?
>>
>> Whatever you like, Kevin. But rest assured that I'll follow up.
>
>And rest assured that nothing will happen.
>
>Speaking of terrorist threats: I wonder what your publisher would feel if
>you were associated with some of the Raven Blackbane spewage? I know you
>threatened Cat Yronwode with a libel suit for linking the two of you:
>perhaps you can threaten me with a lawsuit as well. It will be at least as
>amusing *ahem* effective.
You're hopelessly confused.
>
>Peace
>Kevin Filan
Kevin Filan
<rhy...@pishoff.com> wrote:
>> Do you really think anyone cares about the complaints of an Internet
>> troll and unfit mother?
>
> Do you think anyone cares about the complaints of a filthy satanist and
> pedo - supporter like you?
Nobody ever said I was the one who would be sending them in, Suzanne.
You've made lots of enemies with your bad behavior.
>
> If so, keep on sending them in... I'm sure
>> you're providing them with plenty of amusement. They may even have
>> your rants posted on the bulletin board, so that all the other techs
>> can laugh at you as well.
>
> Really? If so, I'll get 'em fired, cos that's not professional behavior. But
> then, I'm rather sure that's a product of your drug addled imagination as
> well.
You won't get them fired: their bosses will laugh at you just like they
laughed at you. But do feel free to continue providing us with amusement
and posting foul-mouthed screeds. I'm sure the administrators at your
children's school will be pleased to see them... not to mention your
husband's boss.
They will also send a social worker to your home to see what
>> kind of living conditions your daughter has to endure.
>
>
> Again, no worries there.
>
> I suppose the
>> social worker's word will carry more weight than yours... particularly
>> since it will be properly spelled.
>
> If so, that's when we'll get on the good old internet and start getting YOUR
> info, and track you down from there. The law frowns upon people who waste
> their time with false allegations -- there's even a law against it, but I'm
> sure you already know that.
Based on your online behavior -- your lack of impulse control, your
propensity for attacking strangers, etc. -- a reasonable person could
conclude that you were a danger to your children and that you were
physically abusing them. Making that fact known to them would not
be a "false report." Any complaints on your part to any law enforcement
agencies trying to claim otherwise would be ignored and laughed at,
rather like your complaints to Earthlink.
But do feel free to try your luck after the social worker leaves.
>> You may want to clean your house: you wouldn't want the child
>> protection authorities coming in and finding your place a mess.
>>
>
> Really? Are you stupid enough to think that's the reason children get taken
> from homes, is over unkempt lawns, or scruffy paint? You don't sup[pose they
> might take notice of the actual content and atmosphere of the family home?
Thank you for admitting that your house has scruffy paint and an
unkempt lawn. I suspect you also have a couple cars on cinderblocks
parked outside.
>> You do know that it's standard operating procedure for child
>> protection services to investigate ANY complaint, right? And
>> you do know that I may not be the one sending in the complaint;
>> you've made lots of enemies online, all of whom have telephones
>> and all of whom are quite capable of filing complaints on their
>> own. And, as I said, complaints about child abuse are always
>> investigated -- unlike complaints to ISPs, which are most often
>> ignored, particularly when they come from trolls like yourself.
>
>
>
> See above. And thanks for the advice; instead of getting you TOS'D, I'll see
> about having you investigated for stalking. You must really like the nice
> policemen to want them to visit you so often.
Feel free to escalate your complaints: you've had so much luck with
Earthlink. Perhaps the police will be more interested in listening
to your tale of woe. I'm sure they come to visit your house regularly.
>>
>> (Suzanne: this is the part where you threaten me with your kung fu
>> skills or scream about how you are going to shoot me).
>
> Your spineless, balless, weak, satan worshipping ass has nothing to worry
> about unless you try to physically confront me, and then you may have some
> trouble. But you like troule, don't you? The nice policemen and the boss who
> fired you can attest to that.
Why don't you talk to them and find out.
As I said: if your behavior on here is any indication, someone should
make sure you are not abusing and neglecting your children. That is, of
course, a job for a professional... and bringing that to the attention of
a professional would in fact be a meritorious deed, not one which would
leave me liable for a lawsuit or criminal prosecution.
But do feel free to continue threatening me, Suzanne. I'm sure that
Travis County DYFS will be at least as amused by your antics as we are.
Peace
Kevin Filan
Kevin Filan
<rhy...@pishoff.com> wrote:
> I may contact you for further info on this lil whoreson should he attempt to
> stalk me.. Wouldn't it be fun to get him thrown in jail, or ruin him
> financially by suing him for libel? Wheeeee!!
Wow... after finding complaints to Earthlink fruitless, Suzanne
"Rhyanon" Simmons pulls out the big guns: she threatens a libel
suit and police involvement. Perhaps she can join forces with
Tani Jantsang, who's been screaming about how badly she's been
LIBELED by the CHURCH OF SATAN for years now.
Since Suzanne is a witch, I wonder why she doesn't just burn a
black candle against me... or invoke the "trim alt.satanism from
my headers when posting" spell? Unfortunate for her that she has
a driving need to continue trolling throughout Usenet, even when
the consequences of her actions may come home to haunt her and
her family... and unfortunate for her that she's a subliterate
slag who is powerless to do anything but froth at the mouth and
make impotent threats.
Ah, well, perhaps she will pay me a visit in Fresh Meadows one
of these days. I'm sure Greyhound will be running a special
sooner or later. Or maybe Tani will send her some Sooper Eleet
Seekrit Information. Said information may exist only in Tani's
greying and Alzheimers-addled head... but it will be no more
ineffective than Suzanne's current courses of action, and just
as amusing.
Peace
Kevin Filan
Kevin Filan
<rhy...@pishoff.com> wrote:
> Thank you luv, but this person seems to be an obvious mental defective, and
> a stalker as well. He'll soon find out how severely Texas frowns on stalkers
> should he try to escalate his psychotic and delusional behavor.
>
> "Joker & Harley at Arkham" <v...@pacbe11.ent> wrote in message
> news:3FEDE5B9...@pacbell.net...
>> Kevin,
>>
>> You know me from Nanae, Rhy is a good person. The allegations made by
>> one party and his socks have all been proved false.
Hey, Joker: I do know you. Frankly, I'm returning Rhy's trolling to her
on a silver platter. Her cartooney rants and frothing at the mouth are
something which we normally get only from Tani Jantsang.
I do have to admit that I'm concerned about the safety of her children.
If her online behavior is any indication, she seems to have some serious
impulse control issues. I'd hate to see her going ballistic on one of
her young ones and doing actual physical damage. I can definitely
understand why someone might make this concern known to the proper
authorities... and doubt that Rhy would have a legal leg to stand on
if they did, particularly since complaints of this nature are
anonymous by law. simply put, she'd be calling up a cop and screaming
"I *KNOW* it was that STALKER Filan who sent that complaint in, even
if I can't PROVE it."
(Cop ... between bites of a donut)
"You aren't by any chance related to Tani Jantsang, are you?"
>> The war with Cat started years ago and was enhanced when Cat and her
>> people made a troll page with personal info on it.
That's pretty much SOP in Internet flame wars at this point. People
regularly post info about spammers -- and vice versa. And, of course,
hopping up and down and threatening legal action... the Jamie Baillie
School of Defense... only serves to make you look like a clown and does
little to intimidate your opponent. If you get in a flamewar, you can
expect that someone will publish your address and personal info at
some point... and shouldn't be surprised when it happens.
If either side would ignore the other one, the war would soon die. As
it is, I suspect both sides are enjoying it on some perverse level.
There's no other reason for them to continue with a drawn out and
pointless flamefest. (I say this as someone who has occasionally
engaged in flamewars-for-fun: I'm mostly out of the game nowadays,
but Suzanne was just acting so deserving that I figured I'd offer
her some of my attentions just for old time's sake).
I wonder how much of the "personal info" which has been revealed on
Usenet has actually led to any kind of real life consequences. Has
anyone taken the information which Cat & Tyagi provided and actually
used it for anything other than tweaking the alt.religion.wicca
trolls?
>> This war has many layers of mud on it, so I advise you not to believe
>> everything you hear from either side.
Suzanne has admitted that she lives in Austin, and has admitted that
her hubby William owns their house. She's admitted a few other facts
about herself on the Net. Since this is public knowledge, and since
posting it gets her to scream "STALKER" and otherwise act like a doofus,
I do it to tweak her. It obviously works: I figure if I keep it up for
a few more days she'll provide even more entertainment to the Earthlink
staff. If we hit the jackpot she may even call the Fresh Meadows police
department and treat them to some entertainment.
Obviously this is filling some need on her part: why should I deprive
her of the greatest Christmas gift of all? It's not often that she
gets the chance to scream obscenities like a wino who just finished
swilling his holiday sterno. Well, come to think of it, it IS pretty
often... but hey, it's the sentiment that counts.
Hope your holiday was as pleasant as these things can get.
Peace
Kevin Filan
Victor™
>>
>> Tyagi and Cat are certainly k00ks. Nobody's denying that one. They're
>> also poseurs who routinely spout reams and reams of endless gibberish
>> in an attempt to convince themselves that they a) matter and b) know
>> what they are talking about. Neither of which is the case, of course.
>
> He trashed a super crunched short paragraph I wrote about "Gnostisicm"
> which was very in-general - but it was accurate.
Right. I don't remember that specific occasion, but I've read on,
bemused, as they've shown their ass time and again. Nobody of any
consequence pays any attention to them anyway, except perhaps for the
entertainment value.
> Below is "THE NEWS." I don't know where they post their stuff or keep
> up with CoE . Tyagi sent me a copy of a few issues once, a long time
> ago - he was 19 years old at the time, and it was funny as hell. I
> mean, I thought the org was supposed to be funny. But if they are
> saying this kind of thing to people who are depressed, for whatever
> reason - that is Not Very Good. They could get sued if they tell a
> person to off themselves and the person does it! And the "he's a
> satanist" part will make Big News, you bet.
>
> THE NEWS
>
> INTERNATIONAL EXPOSURE on the BBC, where in a broadcast titled
> "Surfing for Suicide" he (Tyagi) was described as "psychopathic" by
> an Oxford University professor of psychiatry, who called for
> his prosecution. The BBC itself dubbed him a "predator."
>
> FROM
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2003/11_november
> /13/s uicide.shtml
>
This doesn't really surprise me. The sad fact of the matter is that Tyagi
and Cat (if they aren't the same person) and their dozens of sockpuppets
are simply using the usenet as a cheap vehicle for personal affirmation.
I doubt anyone could spend as much time glued to their computer if their
real-world existence was not utterly and totally vacuous.
Finally, in their k00ky quest for negative attention, they've found the
means to be appreciated -- by encouraging children to off themselves. I'd
wager they're actually proud that the BBC mentioned them in print (and in
such glowing terms, no less). And why not? No doubt this is the extent of
their earthly accomplishments and the sum total of their pitiful lives.
All things considered, it just doesn't get any more pathetic. I'd feel
sorry for these two if I could stop laughing.
Cheers,
Victor
--
"It was as true as taxes is. And nothing's truer than them."
-Charles Dickens (1812-70)
Caliban
wrote:
>I wonder, are you the Kevin Filan who resides in Fresh Meadows, NY? What an
Filan's just another cyber-freak/geek who likes to poke at others,
then quickly dials his local Sheriff's department when someone pokes
him back. A short Google search makes for some entertaining reading on
him, including where he lives and the name of his employer.
C
Kevin Filan
"Caliban" <Cal...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Filan's just another cyber-freak/geek who likes to poke at others,
> then quickly dials his local Sheriff's department when someone pokes
> him back. A short Google search makes for some entertaining reading on
> him, including where he lives and the name of his employer.
>
> C
Oh, no... don't throw me in that briar patch. Don't call the Sheriff's
department on me, no sir. And don't call my employer... that would be just
awful.
I think Suzanne would be better served by calling up Child Protective
Services and explaining that a crazed stalker is about to file phony abuse
complaints against her, don't you?
Peace
Kevin Filan