Plagiarism and copyright infringement
The Talesin
<3CFA6A...@luckymojo.com> :
>The Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft (tm) wrote:
>>
>> i won. bitch was afraid to even answer me
>> --
>> Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft (tm)
>> http://home.kc.rr.com/pendragonsloft
>
>So i went to the indicated URL and found this
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>[...] Come on in, have a seat, and enjoy my writing and some little
>snippets of my life. It's okay to print them out if it makes them easier
>to read (please note the copyright information). [...]
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Quick definition of a hypocrite: a person who requires folks to respect
>HIS assertions of copyright, but doesn't support others who make similar
>assertions.
>
>cat yronwode
Except that my stuff is, in fact, the product of my own creative genius. I
do own the copyright to it.
The stuff on your web page is a conglomerations of things you have obtained
from *other sources* without you giving a single attribution to those
sources., unless you want to tell us that you founded Voodoo, Hoodoo, and
the many other traditions you <cough cough> "borrow" heavily from.
You fulfill the quick definition of a "plagiarist." Just because it is old
and a matter of tradition does not give you the right to claim it as your
own.
--
Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft (tm)
http://home.kc.rr.com/pendragonsloft
"Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't
mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar"
- Edward R Murrow
Parse Tree
news:ZyTK8.19136$gb1.7...@twister.kc.rr.com...
Actually, I think one of my old posts is on that site.
catherine yronwode
>
>
> The stuff on your web page is a conglomerations of things you have
> obtained from *other sources* without you giving a single
> attribution to those sources., unless you want to tell us that you
> founded Voodoo, Hoodoo, and the many other traditions you <cough
> cough> "borrow" heavily from. You fulfill the quick definition of a
> "plagiarist." Just because it is old and a matter of tradition does
> not give you the right to claim it as your own.
Your statements are false and are based on false premises.
A) I write my own stuff and have been doing so for 35 years now.
B) I do not write about Voodoo.
C) Research is not plagiarism.
D) I credit all sources quoted.
E) There are extensive bibliographies in all my published books.
F) There are extensive bibliographies at my web site.
G) Plonk.
cat yronwode
Hoodoo in Theory and Practice -- http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoo.html
catherine yronwode
>
> Actually, I think one of my old posts is on that site.
Siva has been archiving substantive usenet posts (but not chit-chat or
flame posts) on the topics of religion, magic, mysticism, and occultism
since long before deja news existed. All posts have headers and thus are
credited to the author, with date, newsgroups posted to, etc. Like
google groups, which inherited the deja news archives when deja went
under, siva removes any or all archived posts from any person who wishes
his or her own material taken down. A simple email to
naga...@luckymojo.com is sufficient for removal. Posts are archived at
The Esoteric Archive --------- http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric.html
and there is a search engine on that page that enables searching by
author, topic, or keywords.
Cordially,
cat yronwode
Cardinal Fang
Gods Talesin, you are such a fucking projectionist. And a hypocrite, given the amount of
stuff you have posted to ARW without attribution. Even the "McWicca" joke, which you
sternly held on to as a product of your "creative genius" apparently existed long before
you even took a 'pen' to it. (or did you use the pen for copying it down, hmmm?)
Cardinal Fang ho...@earthlink.net
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The Talesin
"catherine yronwode" <c...@luckymojo.com> wrote in message
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> The Talesin wrote:
> >
> >
> > The stuff on your web page is a conglomerations of things you have
> > obtained from *other sources* without you giving a single
> > attribution to those sources., unless you want to tell us that you
> > founded Voodoo, Hoodoo, and the many other traditions you <cough
> > cough> "borrow" heavily from. You fulfill the quick definition of a
> > "plagiarist." Just because it is old and a matter of tradition does
> > not give you the right to claim it as your own.
>
> Your statements are false and are based on false premises.
>
> A) I write my own stuff and have been doing so for 35 years now.
so the "information" on your site is fabricated?
> B) I do not write about Voodoo.
okay, you borrow heavily from oit
> C) Research is not plagiarism.
it is if you don't provide cites
> D) I credit all sources quoted.
no you don't
> E) There are extensive bibliographies in all my published books.
we are talking about your web site
> F) There are extensive bibliographies at my web site.
not with footnotes thus they are quite useless
> G) Plonk.
spamming, plagiarizing coward
now you all know why she avoids me, i don't buy into her shit
The Talesin
"Cardinal Fang" <ho...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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that's an old piece of horseshit, Fang. go out to the pasture and find
something fresh
--
Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft (tm)
http://home.kc.rr.com/pendragonsloft
"Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't
Parse Tree
>
> "catherine yronwode" <c...@luckymojo.com> wrote in message
> news:3CFC4C...@luckymojo.com...
> > The Talesin wrote:
> > >
> > > The stuff on your web page is a conglomerations of things you have
> > > obtained from *other sources* without you giving a single
> > > attribution to those sources., unless you want to tell us that you
> > > founded Voodoo, Hoodoo, and the many other traditions you <cough
> > > cough> "borrow" heavily from. You fulfill the quick definition of a
> > > "plagiarist." Just because it is old and a matter of tradition does
> > > not give you the right to claim it as your own.
> >
> > Your statements are false and are based on false premises.
> >
> > A) I write my own stuff and have been doing so for 35 years now.
>
> so the "information" on your site is fabricated?
Trapped like a Wintershard. I think it is more likely stolen.
> > B) I do not write about Voodoo.
>
> okay, you borrow heavily from oit
It's funny because I read something about Goofer dust on her site in
connection to Voodoo and Hoodoo.
> > C) Research is not plagiarism.
>
> it is if you don't provide cites
She researches from peoples' posts on usenet. Ie. she takes them and posts
them without ever informing them.
> > D) I credit all sources quoted.
>
> no you don't
So true.
> > E) There are extensive bibliographies in all my published books.
>
> we are talking about your web site
She has no attention span.
> > F) There are extensive bibliographies at my web site.
>
> not with footnotes thus they are quite useless
>
> > G) Plonk.
>
> spamming, plagiarizing coward
She's still reading you. I take her to be the fake plonking type.
> now you all know why she avoids me, i don't buy into her shit
She's not as talented in the lies department as Shard is.
catherine yronwode
>
> > > B) I do not write about Voodoo.
> >
> > okay, you borrow heavily from oit
>
> It's funny because I read something about Goofer dust on her site in
> connection to Voodoo and Hoodoo.
No, Voodoo is not what i write about. I know of nothing called Goofer
Dust in the Voodoo religion of Benin or Haiti. Do some research. Grow an
intelligence all your own. Study. Learn. Visit alt.religion.orisha or
alt.religion.voodoo if you can conduct yourself well and wish to
understand. I write about folk magic, not religion.
> > > G) Plonk.
> >
> > spamming, plagiarizing coward
>
> She's still reading you. I take her to be the fake plonking type.
And another plonk.
nagasiva
>"catherine yronwode" <c...@luckymojo.com> wrote in message
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>> The Talesin wrote:
>> > The stuff on your web page is a conglomerations of things you have
which page?
>> > obtained from *other sources* without you giving a single
>> > attribution to those sources.,
I remember her karezza ref was Tokology's Alice Bunker Stockham
and she strongly recommended a few different sources in the
alt.tantra FAQ. sri catyananda repeatedly references the Hyatt
collection as inspiration, along with Gamache, Hohman, and even
Zora Neal Hurston, whose text she describes and sells. plainly
you are mistaken.
>> > unless you want to tell us that you
>> > founded Voodoo, Hoodoo, and the many other traditions you <cough
>> > cough> "borrow" heavily from. You fulfill the quick definition of a
>> > "plagiarist."
examples?
I doubt you understand the meaning of the term. take it elsewhere
or provide substantiation for the claim.
>> > Just because it is old and a matter of tradition does
>> > not give you the right to claim it as your own.
blather.
>> A) I write my own stuff and have been doing so for 35 years now.
>so the "information" on your site is fabricated?
counters 'plagiarism' claim. you're trying to squirm your way
out of the destruction of your original claims (plagiarism,
see above, which you do not understand).
>> B) I do not write about Voodoo.
>
>okay, you borrow heavily from oit
examples?
if anything she borrows heavily from hoodoo sources on account
of her admiration and enjoyment of said magical tradition.
>> C) Research is not plagiarism.
>it is if you don't provide cites
demonstration of your ignorance. doing research is receptive,
citation is only stylish valuable for *expression*.
>> D) I credit all sources quoted.
>no you don't
examples?
>> E) There are extensive bibliographies in all my published books.
>we are talking about your web site
which one?
>> F) There are extensive bibliographies at my web site.
>not with footnotes thus they are quite useless
a valuable point, if there weren't references elsewhere.
I know of several instances where she quotes Pow-wows or
Gamache in illustration of a point regarding hoodoo, for
example, and provides specific page numbers and locations
of the text she's quoting. same with Hyatt's informants.
you're blowing hot air, chum.
>now you all know why she avoids me, i don't buy into her shit
goodbye.
nagasiva
Cardinal Fang
>
>"Cardinal Fang" <ho...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> Gods Talesin, you are such a fucking projectionist. And a hypocrite, given the amount of
>> stuff you have posted to ARW without attribution. Even the "McWicca" joke,which you
>> sternly held on to as a product of your "creative genius" apparently existed long before
>> you even took a 'pen' to it. (or did you use the pen for copying it down,hmmm?)
>
>that's an old piece of horseshit, Fang. go out to the pasture and find
>something fresh
Why? Are you claiming copyright?
Andralphus
> Except that my stuff is, in fact, the product of my own creative genius. I
> do own the copyright to it.
> The stuff on your web page is a conglomerations of things you have obtained
> from *other sources* without you giving a single attribution to those
> sources., unless you want to tell us that you founded Voodoo, Hoodoo, and
> the many other traditions you <cough cough> "borrow" heavily from.
> You fulfill the quick definition of a "plagiarist." Just because it is old
> and a matter of tradition does not give you the right to claim it as your
> own.
What, exactly, do you claim has been plagiarized? Back up your assertion, bucko.
The Talesin
"Parse Tree" <pars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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oh yes, she most certainly is. she has also sent her little henchman to
"deal with me." how fucking lame is that?
The Talesin
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 11:00:35 -0500, "The Talesin"
<the_wi...@yahoo.XcomX.> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Cardinal Fang" <ho...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:egsofu8edhnja8qjt...@4ax.com...
>
> >> Gods Talesin, you are such a fucking projectionist. And a hypocrite,
given the amount of
> >> stuff you have posted to ARW without attribution. Even the "McWicca"
joke,which you
> >> sternly held on to as a product of your "creative genius" apparently
existed long before
> >> you even took a 'pen' to it. (or did you use the pen for copying it
down,hmmm?)
> >
> >that's an old piece of horseshit, Fang. go out to the pasture and find
> >something fresh
>
> Why? Are you claiming copyright?
come back when you can prove someone else can
The Talesin
"Andralphus" <bloodo...@goddamnfruit.com> wrote in message
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there is neither an original thought nor an attribute on those pages, bucko
Parse Tree
> Parse Tree wrote:
> >
> > > > B) I do not write about Voodoo.
> > >
> > > okay, you borrow heavily from oit
> >
> > It's funny because I read something about Goofer dust on her site in
> > connection to Voodoo and Hoodoo.
>
> No, Voodoo is not what i write about. I know of nothing called Goofer
> Dust in the Voodoo religion of Benin or Haiti. Do some research. Grow an
> intelligence all your own. Study. Learn. Visit alt.religion.orisha or
> alt.religion.voodoo if you can conduct yourself well and wish to
> understand. I write about folk magic, not religion.
Actually you write quite a bit about voodoo.
You seem to think so too.
"Blues Lyrics and Hoodoo
Transcriptions of blues lyrics about African-American folk-magic. All lyrics
are related to Hoodoo (Voodoo) magic.
http://luckymojo.com/blues.html"
> > > > G) Plonk.
> > >
> > > spamming, plagiarizing coward
> >
> > She's still reading you. I take her to be the fake plonking type.
>
> And another plonk.
Can't take being wrong, can you?
Jani
research, to establish who's the 'lamer' here. Why don't you drop the
ego-trip and actually *look? You might - gods forbid - actually learn
something.
Jani
"The Talesin" <the_wi...@yahoo.XcomX.> wrote in message
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Parse Tree
plagiarized. If I take all of your posts Jani, and post it on a web page,
that doesn't make me some wonderful person.
"Jani" <ja...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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|ntruder
> The quality of her content doesn't matter when a large portion of it is
> plagiarized. If I take all of your posts Jani, and post it on a web page,
> that doesn't make me some wonderful person.
>
> "Jani" <ja...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:WmML8.3182$s93.37...@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > David, one only has to compare Cat's standard of writing, let alone her
> > research, to establish who's the 'lamer' here. Why don't you drop the
> > ego-trip and actually *look? You might - gods forbid - actually learn
> > something.
> >
From: catherine yronwode <c...@luckymojo.com>
To: t...@ghettobox.dhs.org
Subject: Re: O5 Instant Sex Majik
sm...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
>
>
> Have any partner you want.
> ________________
>
> Since O5 can create and discreate anything, one
> simple use is sexual. I suppose most people know
> what sex is. Sex is obviousely sex:)
[snip]
I don't understand this post, but it looks like it belongs in
alt.magick.tantra more than in alt.lucky.w -- alt.magick.tantra covers
sexual magic, among other things, but alt.lucky.w is about lucky tokens
and folk-magic, not your topic. Alt.magick.tantra has been dominated by
a spammer named Dharmadeva, who is trying to keep the group anti-sexual,
so anything you ost there on sex would be of interest. Be prepared for
his follow-ups, though.
Good luck.
Phoenix
coming through..
hehehehe.. pleeeze do send..:-)
P
"Gargoyle" <ga...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> You did see the pic of his "wife" I posted here, didn't
you? hehehehehe
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 23:42:55 +0100, "Phoenix"
<path...@tiscali.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"The Talesin" <the_wi...@yahoo.XcomX.> wrote in
message
> >news:8dAL8.324$qs3....@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >>
> >> "Lew Bloch" <con...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in
message
> >>
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> >> > On this thread, the winners are:
> >> > Cat Yronwode
> >> > Das Uber Bitch
> >> > Jules
> >> >
> >> > The losers are:
> >> > Talesin
> >> > Parse Tree
> >> >
> >> > Of those two, I think there might be hope for Parse
> >Tree. Not much, but
> >> > some.
> >> >
> >> > And I remember cat from previous lurk sessions. I've
> >always felt good
> >> > resonance from her insights, not that this thread has
> >given her talents
> >> much
> >> > room.
> >> >
> >> > Just MHO. Cuz it's fun to post.
> >>
> >> another idiot sheep bleating into the void
> >>
> >
> >In your case, fOtty, an idiot hippo bleating into the
> >void..:-)
> >P
> >
> >> --
> >>
> >> Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft (tm)
> >>
> >> http://home.kc.rr.com/pendragonsloft
> >>
> >> "Just because your voice reaches halfway around the
world
> >doesn't
> >> mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end
of
> >the bar"
> >> - Edward R Murrow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> Gargoyle -
> Life's a Bitch but I am the Bitch's Master.
Lush
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Phoenix <path...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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Lush
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Gargoyle <ga...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> You sooooooo cruel. Unlike me, of course. Or that "Oooggaaabbboogggaa"
> fella who posted that pic! Oh, wait... that was me! hehehehehehehe