thanks that was nice
hy
Happy new year everyone.
(Except for Aine, and any - everyone else who doesn't like it when I
wish them well or anything at all including goodnight and goodday. My
wishes skip you (so that you can have your own way)).
If you think I am ridiculous.. well fights start over stuff like that
around here, and I guess being "fancy free" to wish you a happy new year
made me realize I am not so free here.
hy
ok blame ren for the utter ridiculousness coming out of me right now,
that is at its heart chaotic wicca, magick whatever.
I almost have to write this backwards it is so chaotic for me.
For instance instead of writing <remove hurt> to start, I need to start
with </remove hurt> so that the hurt is already removed.
equation start:
if hy = blue dryer ball
http://www.asseenontvguys.com/ProductImages/dryerballs-single.jpg
otherwise known as 1.
Let hy = 1
and other entity (not known as Aine because that would cause her to be
formed into something she would not want to be as, so let it be
something else) = another color, shape and pokey experience than blue
dryer ball
otherwise known as x.
Let other entity = x
how does
1 + x = worlds existing in far proximity
=
worlds existing in close proximity to the other without the stars and
heaven imploding or exploding (otherwise known as) = 1+x
<remove hurt>
</removehurt>
*ps.. I am not mad at anyone
although this equation makes me crazy.
In other words,
free and happy 1, does not know how to be free and happy or 1 without
imposing on x, yet must be at least 1 to exist.
yet ren wished aine and hy a happy new year.
Therefore, happy 1 + happy x must be able to exist.
Which must mean that 1+x can actually be a mathematical possibility.
Which makes me seem like an ass for writing all this out. However, I had
to write this out to get to the proof that I didn't even know existed
until writing all this out.
hy
aine
> hy wrote:
You may want to lay down a while with a nice cup of Nettle Tea. I
think you got too close to the Azazel post.
aine
> Happy new year everyone.
>
> (Except for Aine, and any - everyone else who doesn't like it when I
> wishes skip you (so that you can have your own way)).<
Happy New Year is not a wish, it is a sentiment.
I balk at supposed magic(k)als using the term "wish" when the context
of the intent is actual "intent" Makes it sound fluffy, silly and that
the person has no control over something as simple as a Blessing. I
say 'wish' now and again when it is not something I am "intent"ing for
another.
Ren is a whole different catagory when he posts a youtube song or gets
mystical/mushy/romantic sounding in a post. Ren can do sweet &
romantic naturally even if he is scheming behind throwing it out there
or sending out a code that has nothing to do with romance. It is my
opposit nature so of course I gravitate to it.
Like an animal that stores up for the winter months..I sometimes pull
"sweet moments" out of the self storage to get through a particular
bad adventure that is testing my limits. Has to be from someone I am
really connected to tho because I am just as apt to be in a mood that
a warm fuzzy gets a gaffaw from me and the person has to understand my
nature and not take it personally. That is a tall order from people.
Not many can fill those shoes.
> If you think I am ridiculous.. well fights start over stuff like that
> around here, and I guess being "fancy free" to wish you a happy new year
> made me realize I am not so free here.<
No fights are started except by the person who cannot handle other
peoples views and feelings about something that differs from their
own. Those kind usually see difference of opinion as a "fight".
Be Well, hy. Happy New Year.
hy
> Be Well, hy. Happy New Year.
Thank you.
Happy new year, Aine.
Lady Azure, Baroness o De North Pole
You an American talking to the "Book Burner" Clique??
Hammer of Thor been swirling around you lately.
They even have a special Board the Kook's post their Bashing Sprees on.
�
hy
> On Jan 2, 7:59 am, hy <"hy_biscus(hy)"@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Happy new year everyone.
>>
>> (Except for Aine, and any - everyone else who doesn't like it when I
>> wish them well or anything at all including goodnight and good day. My
>> wishes skip you (so that you can have your own way)).<
>
> Happy New Year is not a wish, it is a sentiment.
>
> I balk at supposed magic(k)als using the term "wish" when the context
> of the intent is actual "intent" Makes it sound fluffy, silly and that
> the person has no control over something as simple as a Blessing. I
> say 'wish' now and again when it is not something I am "intent"ing for
> another.
I am trying to understand, please bear with me.
When I hear comments like "have a good night", this usually is said in
three ways.
1) As a rude comment, to brush someone off.
2) As a passing by comment with no feeling or care of that person or how
their night will unfold. (Sort of like when someone asks "how are you",
but isn't going to stop to listen and does not care how anyone in the
elevator really is).
3) As a sentiment/blessing that the person has a good night.
I don't do 1 or 2.
However, it seems to me that we are opposite from what I am reading
above when you say: "I say 'wish' now and again when it is not something
I am "intent"ing for another".
I get the fact that you do not want interference. Heck, I was like that
for many of my years on arw. I can respect you not wanting to be
interfered with. I don't have to interfere with you. I would hope that
if I was wishing someone(s) a happy new year that you would not see
something in this sentiment that would hurt you.
I just do not know how to exist around you, if by my core component I
truly do want and work towards understanding, fulfilment, joy for myself
and others, for the universe.
I share many of the same "wishes" or "sentiments that you do", like a
community that cares for each other and protects each other, doesn't let
�others" fall through the cracks. But that is caring to me, the
sentiment is a caring nature to me.
You almost seem nihilists in your belief about sentiment. If so, then I
do not understand how you can tolerate as C.S. Lewis puts it
�transcendental interference� by your gods and spirits, let alone ren.
If I understand you correctly, then your core happy and my core happy
violate each other by their nature.
Perhaps this is simply a difference in the "English" of our word useage?
hy
Lady, please don't take this the wrong way. I don't post to you because
I have no clue what you are suggesting most of the time. I can't even guess.
This is saying a lot, for I am someone who can "see" meaning in almost
anything.
ren wishes me something, and I took it as a very nice sentiment that
opened up an unease that I needed understanding on, from many years ago.
I would like peace on this issue. I had hoped for arbitration. I needed
understanding. Aine is filling me in nicely.
ren
> hy wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Happy new year everyone.
Happy HaPPY Joy JOY!
ren
> On Jan 2, 7:59 am, hy <"hy_biscus(hy)"@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ah, well, it is witchcraft. YOU WILL have a Happy New Year! YOU WILL!
ren
> ren wishes me something, and I took it as a very nice sentiment that
> opened up an unease that I needed understanding on, from many years ago.
>
> I would like peace on this issue. I had hoped for arbitration. I needed
> understanding. Aine is filling me in nicely.
We've made our peace long ago. You're just affirming that we still
have a bond. And we do. There are two motivations here. Fear and love.
Fear because you've just seen what can be done once again. Love
because you love the power in it all.
I don't consider anyone a mindless slave. You all can consider me
your humble servant.
hy
Thank you, I will!
aine
> On Jan 3, 10:33 am, hy <"hy_biscus(hy)"@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > ren wishes me something, and I took it as a very nice sentiment that
> > opened up an unease that I needed understanding on, from many years ago.
>
> > I would like peace on this issue. I had hoped for arbitration. I needed
> > understanding. Aine is filling me in nicely.
>
> We've made our peace long ago. You're just affirming that we still
> have a bond. And we do.<
And I put up a really thick lead wall and wear a body/spiritual condom
at all times I am 'one' with him. It is good to compromise.
> There are two motivations here. Fear and love.
> Fear because you've just seen what can be done once again. Love
> because you love the power in it all.<
I am motivated by neither. You are speaking of just hy, right..cuz
sometimes you kind of cross over to get a message out..
> I don't consider anyone a mindless slave. You all can consider me
> your humble servant.<
hehe heh.. Come here man, I have a job for you!
All sick/twisted or pure spiritual/sexual innuendo's aside.. I really
do need your assistance with a certain crisis.. check your
communicator to see if it is on..I hate voice mail. Psychic or
physical.
hy
> On Jan 3, 10:33 am, hy <"hy_biscus(hy)"@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ren wishes me something, and I took it as a very nice sentiment that
>> opened up an unease that I needed understanding on, from many years ago.
>>
>> I would like peace on this issue. I had hoped for arbitration. I needed
>> understanding. Aine is filling me in nicely.
>
> We've made our peace long ago. You're just affirming that we still
> have a bond.
Honestly, I just realized that I did not understand years ago why I
pushed you away so that you could be safe, then found peace in that I no
longer had that need, to realizing that I was in the last few days
actually pushing you away again. These same patterns exist in me. You
pointing this out can perhaps change this cycle.
I should have realized that in not wanting to come back here, and this
feeling of dread that I had in coming back, which was lifted when I read
your happy new years.. meant that I am connected to here in some way for
some reason. Not arw, but this space that it occupies and shares between
"Us".
What I want to share: community and the dreamy like state of creation
that exists in this reality. and bonding.
> And we do. There are two motivations here. Fear and love.
> Fear because you've just seen what can be done once again.
While you wrote this, I was reading about fear and love. I was reading
about Freud and Totem and Taboo, in which our idea of God is created out
of our feeling for our father and our need for protection and believing
in the awesomeness of our father, until one day we see that we still
need protection because we are weak, and our father is not able to
protect us. So we create our "Almighty Father" to save us, based on this
same hate, fear and love of our father. With our hate we destroy him,
and then we feel guilt or remorse out of the love which we have just
destroyed.
Do not read into what I was reading as my belief, as I am reading many
opposing ideas along with this. However, all of these thoughts are
shaping my thoughts at this time.
> Love because you love the power in it all.
I love to love and create and share with others. There is power in
sharing this elasticity of love.
> I don't consider anyone a mindless slave. You all can consider me
> your humble servant.
I do not feel or think that you are my master or that I am your slave. I
believe that i have broken free of that.
Although, I thought about how I did use to see you as my God in totem
form, like a parent, who taught me. Why was I able to abolish the other
duel aspect so quickly, but not the god like nature of you?
I no longer feel that you are my god. I do not feel equal, but I do not
feel superior or inferior either.
aine
No, I mean that if I am adding my intent say, for a healing of someone
who said they were ill...I would not say to them, "I wish you well".
To someone who needed energy assistance for something they had to do
like a job interview, I would not say "I wish you good luck". To
someone down on their life I would not say "I wish the best for you".
I would assert my intent by making it so. No wishing about it.
Just..Be well. Blessings on you for prosperity. Blessings to you and
yours.
> I just do not know how to exist around you, if by my core component I
> truly do want and work towards understanding, fulfilment, joy for myself
> and others, for the universe.
>
> I share many of the same "wishes" or "sentiments that you do", like a
> community that cares for each other and protects each other, doesn't let
> “others" fall through the cracks. But that is caring to me, the
> sentiment is a caring nature to me.
>
> You almost seem nihilists in your belief about sentiment.<
Sentiments? No..Its good even the shallow ones. Explanation as above.
If I see you as a magickal then I may well not be in a tolerant mood
and say I do not need your "wishes" now if you want to send me sincere
Blessing intent, okay then. Act accordingly to your ability. A wish I
would expect from children or normal mortals.
The "people" giving me the sentiment is another story. Saying I do
not trust people means those I have already encountered. Possibly,
that is where miscommunication is.
I always guard to the fact few people can be trusted but I always go
into new meetings of people giving them the benefit of the doubt. Even
a few times, as I allow for human screw ups.
> If so, then I
> do not understand how you can tolerate as C.S. Lewis puts it
> “transcendental interference” by your gods and spirits, let alone ren.<
My Gods and Spirits understand me. Who ever said they behave in the
manner they behave with another? They do not act, smell, look or even
as us to do the same thing. They chastise, punish and praise
differently so I would not expect you to understand my relationship
with them.
I guess I could have just added ren's name in there as well but I
cannot because he and I are on a level beneath them and even though we
are at even levels with them at times together..more often then not,
it is not always at the same time as each other.
Bears repeating, I guess because I think I have said this before. I am
not always in synch with the Gods as to why ren is embraced or the
times they say.."close the door" . Yet it never seems to be locked and
I fully believe both ren and I instictively know when there is a tie
on the door, do not disturb..or even when to spar and disagree for
whatever reason it is for. Every time I think I have ren and me
figured out, they add a few more twists and turns. I never know what
century clothing to wear. That and the Deity cultures constantly
change but they all end up being the same one when I research them
I use to fight it. I still do if I am not in the mood or in my hermit
stage and get pissed "they" are dragging me out again. I think ren
handles those things better then I do.
> If I understand you correctly, then your core happy and my core happy
> violate each other by their nature.<
Ya, probably.
>
> Perhaps this is simply a difference in the "English" of our word useage?<
Useage? I swear for a few seconds I saw that word as sausage.
Freudian? I don't know. Violating someones sausage? Or someones
sausage makes you happy and not me or I took your sausage. I
swear..there is a reason I saw that word.
Evergreen
[delete]
> I don't consider anyone a mindless slave.
There certainly isn't anyone who is _your_ mindless
slave.
Though you obviously wish it were otherwise.
>You all can consider me your humble servant.
Says a flaming egomaniac who would give his right
arm to be the leader of a psuedo-wiccan cult
and is a vicious bully,
Hang around or check out the archives at
googlegroups.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca
You will soon realize that ren is a pathological
liar.
(He's pretending to have killfiled me again. I couldn't
care less. I don't care if he responds. Of what use
are words that can't be trusted?)
[delete]
Sid
--
Sidney Lambe
Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
hy
>> sentiment is a caring nature to me.
>>
>> You almost seem nihilists in your belief about sentiment.<
>
> Sentiments? No..Its good even the shallow ones. Explanation as above.
> If I see you as a magickal then I may well not be in a tolerant mood
> and say I do not need your "wishes" now if you want to send me sincere
> Blessing intent, okay then. Act accordingly to your ability. A wish I
> would expect from children or normal mortals.
>
> The "people" giving me the sentiment is another story. Saying I do
> not trust people means those I have already encountered. Possibly,
> that is where miscommunication is.
> I always guard to the fact few people can be trusted but I always go
> into new meetings of people giving them the benefit of the doubt. Even
> a few times, as I allow for human screw ups.
>
>> If so, then I
>> do not understand how you can tolerate as C.S. Lewis puts it
>
> My Gods and Spirits understand me. Who ever said they behave in the
> manner they behave with another? They do not act, smell, look or even
> as us to do the same thing. They chastise, punish and praise
> differently so I would not expect you to understand my relationship
> with them.
acknowledged.
> I guess I could have just added ren's name in there as well but I
> cannot because he and I are on a level beneath them and even though we
> are at even levels with them at times together..more often then not,
> it is not always at the same time as each other.
>
> Bears repeating, I guess because I think I have said this before. I am
> not always in synch with the Gods as to why ren is embraced or the
> times they say.."close the door" . Yet it never seems to be locked and
> I fully believe both ren and I instictively know when there is a tie
> on the door, do not disturb..or even when to spar and disagree for
> whatever reason it is for. Every time I think I have ren and me
> figured out, they add a few more twists and turns. I never know what
> century clothing to wear. That and the Deity cultures constantly
> change but they all end up being the same one when I research them
I understand. I think that I share some of this.. I respect and accept
ren and I can be close when he is, or I can move away if he needs it. I
am not necessarily in sync and I am not sure why.
You once wrote that I write to ren through my writings to you.
The spaces overlap. However, I am actually writing to you specifically
with my undivided attention. I am just ok that others read or do not
read this. It is part of my spirits progression in its shared experience
on arw.
It may help to realize that I saw myself as a documented spirits
experience and its change through cyber interaction. Documented being:
post, email and other written cyber methods. Although I am not
documenting any of my work here, I look at myself as uncovering these
mysteries as they unfold as an anthropologists would with a twist that
is uncovered seen in such work as Lem�s �Memoirs Found in the Bathtub�
and Atwood's Handmaiden�s Tale (the last chapter not being found in the
movie version of Atwood�s tale).
Somewhat on and off topic...
I had boundary issues before. Arw helped me to figure that out. Healing
helped. It helped to explore these issues, even if this caused
confrontation.
In being a newbie, and experiencing the astral, one becomes sexual. I
experienced ren as both sacred and sexual.
Years ago my boundaries started to heal. I found the spiritual was much
stronger when sexual desires or energies moved throughout rather than
focused on the sexual. Which is not to say that spirituality and sex do
not cross.
I am no longer experiencing ren in any sexual manner. He is a sexual
person, and my boundaries do not get crossed when you are sexual with
him. It may help you to realize that when I write I am not being sexual.
Unless overtly, because I sometimes miss the flirty nature of arw. I
just do not need to flirt any more. It doesn't help me and the boundary
issues do not need to be provoked.
My viewpoint on relationships has also changed. Where I once saw it as
cruel for a non committed individual to sexually interact with someone
committed, in arw those lines blurred and I was confused as to how
people should act as I felt these energies so intensely.
I now believe that committed and non committed have something to share
with each other, that does not need to be experienced in any lucid or
sexually provoking manner.
> I use to fight it. I still do if I am not in the mood or in my hermit
> stage and get pissed "they" are dragging me out again. I think ren
> handles those things better then I do.
I have been sort of hermit like lately, but also very exploritory.
Different aspects of what is "normal" for me is not normal for me
lately, which means I have to explore in other ways. I have also been so
very busy.
>> If I understand you correctly, then your core happy and my core happy
>> violate each other by their nature.<
>
> Ya, probably.
>> Perhaps this is simply a difference in the "English" of our word useage?<
>
> Useage? I swear for a few seconds I saw that word as sausage.
> Freudian? I don't know. Violating someones sausage? Or someones
> sausage makes you happy and not me or I took your sausage. I
> swear..there is a reason I saw that word.
Well, our "ego" has to get in their somewhere in such a sincere post.
Thanks for the sausage.
Thank you for the above.
hy
"I'll tell you. You're young, but you're one of us, and I'm one of us,
so I'll tell you. Everything. Now, say someone's one of us. . . but he's
also�you know�you can tell, right?"
"He's not�one of us," I said.
"Right! You can tell! But sometimes�you can't tell. You think someone's
one of us, but they got to him and then he wasn't any more�and then we
got to him, and he was�but he still has to look like he isn't, that is,
like he only looks like he is! But they get wise to him and�now he isn't
again, but he has to look like he isn't�or we'll get wise�and that's a
triple!"
so very 1999-200* arwish
hy
see.. I used to reall like the "Happy HaPPY Joy JOY!" song.
I also really like happy happy joy joy.
Also, like I told Lady Azure, I see connections.
For instance, I see my name in HappY as you write it, as well as Happy
joY as you write it. lol..
but then again.. does anyone else see the connection between Lady Gaga's
"Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah!
Roma-Roma-ma-ah!
Ga-ga-ooh-la-la!"
and Boney M's Ra Ra Rasputin song?
"Ra Ra Rasputin Lover of the Russian queen
There was a cat that really was gone
Ra Ra Rasputin Russia's greatest love machine
It was a shame how he carried on"
:)
Others have taken catchy sueccesfful songs and made it their own. Did
she? :)
aine
> aine wrote:
>
> > I guess I could have just added ren's name in there as well but I
> > cannot because he and I are on a level beneath them and even though we
> > are at even levels with them at times together..more often then not,
> > it is not always at the same time as each other.
>
> > Bears repeating, I guess because I think I have said this before. I am
> > not always in synch with the Gods as to why ren is embraced or the
> > times they say.."close the door" . Yet it never seems to be locked and
> > I fully believe both ren and I instictively know when there is a tie
> > on the door, do not disturb..or even when to spar and disagree for
> > whatever reason it is for. Every time I think I have ren and me
> > figured out, they add a few more twists and turns. I never know what
> > century clothing to wear. That and the Deity cultures constantly
> > change but they all end up being the same one when I research them
>
> I understand. I think that I share some of this.. I respect and accept
> ren and I can be close when he is, or I can move away if he needs it. I
> am not necessarily in sync and I am not sure why.<
I am not sure what about the above, bothers me you saying we share the
same feelings. Maybe because it comes across to me, even tho not
really written in this manner, that your meeting with him is dependent
on ren's emotions only. Feels submissive when I am only submissive
when it will benefit me or the cause. (snort..darn near chokes on my
eggnog that sounds so deviate)
>
> You once wrote that I write to ren through my writings to you.<
Good timing, I was thinking it yet, again. ;)
>
> The spaces overlap. However, I am actually writing to you specifically
> with my undivided attention. I am just ok that others read or do not
> read this. It is part of my spirits progression in its shared experience
> on arw.<
How kind of you. I got the swine flu but someone who claimed the same
thing. Sharing experiences, even if it was a person and I who took an
adventure and journeyed down the same grocery isle..synchronicity
sucks when a person sprays snot.
Regardless if we know a person well enough to chat IM or e-mail, I
consider arw to quench my voyeurism desire. It is as racey as I get in
that department.
>
> It may help to realize that I saw myself as a documented spirits
> experience and its change through cyber interaction. Documented being:
> post, email and other written cyber methods. Although I am not
> documenting any of my work here, I look at myself as uncovering these
> mysteries as they unfold as an anthropologists would with a twist that
> is uncovered seen in such work as Lem’s “Memoirs Found in the Bathtub”
> and Atwood's Handmaiden’s Tale (the last chapter not being found in the
> movie version of Atwood’s tale).<
Handmaidens Tale was a erotic turn on. That is all.
>
> Somewhat on and off topic...
>
> I had boundary issues before. Arw helped me to figure that out. Healing
> helped. It helped to explore these issues, even if this caused
> confrontation.<
It is a neverending story, really. I have learned to never close a
chapter in arw or I would be forever deiscussing..the Good, Bad,
Ugly..what it healed how it made me grow all the while going through
the same shit, different day or names here.
>
> In being a newbie, and experiencing the astral, one becomes sexual. I
> experienced ren as both sacred and sexual.
Ya, you have always made reference to a newbie becoming sexual in the
astral. Even when you referred to ren as your teacher. Even now you
say he teaches you alot and I am not good with the ethics of teacher/
sex. I refuse to call anyone my teacher for that reason. When primal
calls..I want to be a free agent.
I am not in agreement that is the norm. Like we are all out there
looking to get humped. That sex is the actual divine ultimate act.
That all enlightenment travels through sex. Sex is fairly mundane.
There are far more divine and ultimate acts of astral coming together
that are not sexual.
The myths of Deity are filled with sexual activity, even rape but they
shared that with humans. Sex rocks, but if I am in the astral on a
journey then I am striving for divine enlightenment and I seriously
doubt divine is shared with any joe out there. Plus, I have true
doubts I am going to have to have sex with someone to be enlightened.
> Years ago my boundaries started to heal. I found the spiritual was much
> stronger when sexual desires or energies moved throughout rather than
> focused on the sexual. Which is not to say that spirituality and sex do
> not cross.<
On a lower level maybe. I do not need an orgasm to see God. I do not
call the explosive, divine, spiritual and all encompassing experience
of being with the divine an orgasm whether I am entwined with another
person mundane or spiritual because the entwined is nonsexual. It is a
holding of each other in shared journey, not a fuck. Not even love
making.
>
> I am no longer experiencing ren in any sexual manner. He is a sexual
> person, and my boundaries do not get crossed when you are sexual with
> him. It may help you to realize that when I write I am not being sexual.<
Huh? ah okay. You write as though there is jealousy or a threat to me
in some way from your feelings, thoughts or acts. Too funny. I am not
wired that way. Wrong gal..sorry or maybe you need or want me to be.
Rarr..cat fight (gay paw slap) Better? chuckle..okay I cannot even
be serious now.
>
> Unless overtly, because I sometimes miss the flirty nature of arw. I
> just do not need to flirt any more. It doesn't help me and the boundary
> issues do not need to be provoked.<
I think you think too hard. I also think you put too much stock in
sexuality here.
> My viewpoint on relationships has also changed. Where I once saw it as
> cruel for a non committed individual to sexually interact with someone
> committed, in arw those lines blurred and I was confused as to how
> people should act as I felt these energies so intensely.<
Well..depends on circumstance and how the partner feels. Anything in
secret could be unethical. Asking a person to stop outright and the
person not respecting the others request is unethical. I realize
people do things ethically that I think are not because I am not aware
of the whole story and it really is none of my business to know it.
Therefore..I have no right to judge anothers actions less the whole
truth be in front of me.
> I now believe that committed and non committed have something to share
> with each other, that does not need to be experienced in any lucid or
> sexually provoking manner.<
Sex again? You need to get laid? Just asking!
> > Ya, probably.
> >> Perhaps this is simply a difference in the "English" of our word useage?<
>
> > Useage? I swear for a few seconds I saw that word as sausage.
> > Freudian? I don't know. Violating someones sausage? Or someones
> > sausage makes you happy and not me or I took your sausage. I
> > swear..there is a reason I saw that word.
>
> Well, our "ego" has to get in their somewhere in such a sincere post.
> Thanks for the sausage.<
I don't get that reply..maybe it is based on something you are picking
up that I am not really feeling. Like people who insist you do
something for the wrong reason and you cannot convince them
otherwise.
hy
> On Jan 2, 9:01 pm, hy <"hy_biscus(hy)"@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> aine wrote:
>
>>> I guess I could have just added ren's name in there as well but I
>>> cannot because he and I are on a level beneath them and even though we
>>> are at even levels with them at times together..more often then not,
>>> it is not always at the same time as each other.
>>> Bears repeating, I guess because I think I have said this before. I am
>>> not always in synch with the Gods as to why ren is embraced or the
>>> times they say.."close the door" . Yet it never seems to be locked and
>>> I fully believe both ren and I instictively know when there is a tie
>>> on the door, do not disturb..or even when to spar and disagree for
>>> whatever reason it is for. Every time I think I have ren and me
>>> figured out, they add a few more twists and turns. I never know what
>>> century clothing to wear. That and the Deity cultures constantly
>>> change but they all end up being the same one when I research them
>> I understand. I think that I share some of this.. I respect and accept
>> ren and I can be close when he is, or I can move away if he needs it. I
>> am not necessarily in sync and I am not sure why.<
>
> I am not sure what about the above, bothers me you saying we share the
> same feelings.
The part about the "what type of clothing to wear"
I read your first post wrong. I read that he was closed sometimes, and
other times there was a tie on the door for your own reasons with him.
I was trying to say I do not share that part of him.
Since that is not what you said.. never mind :)
> Handmaidens Tale was a erotic turn on. That is all.
no...pshaw
The book even starts off about the maiden's suicides.
The Tale was not about an erotic turn on, it was about the silencing of
free love and women�s rights and how love conquered even in this regime.
A few thoughts that come out in my mind was how dry her skin was, and
how she snuck butter to put on her lips to quench their dryness.
...Finding people to help her out of her plight.
However, I was referring to the discovery that the child of the attic made.
It was over 12 years ago when I read it, maybe close to 20. I believe
the book was found in an attic by a young girl, who wondered if the
handmaiden ever made it out alive to her husband. I believe that attic
was like an archaeologist dig.. or perhaps it was something that was
found from the long lost past as example of that society?
aine
For you it was not but you do not get to tell me what I found erotic.
Even if it was just one frame in the whole movie that burned it's self
in my brain.
Tell you what, if you get off on Fabio doing the Harlequin thing on
book covers..I will not make a joke and mock his voice saying, I can't
believe it's not butter"
You and Sid have a difficult time allowing people to feel & see
differently then yourselves. Possibly you have mistaken that you are
called to be a Healer as much as it is just your personality to want
to "fix" people to think like you.
hy
>>
>> > Handmaidens Tale was a erotic turn on. That is all.
>>
>> no...pshaw
>>
>> The book even starts off about the maiden's suicides.
>>
>> The Tale was not about an erotic turn on, it was about the silencing of
>> free love and women�s rights and how love conquered even in this regime.<
>
> For you it was not but you do not get to tell me what I found erotic.
> Even if it was just one frame in the whole movie that burned it's self
> in my brain.
> Tell you what, if you get off on Fabio doing the Harlequin thing on
> book covers..I will not make a joke and mock his voice saying, I can't
> believe it's not butter"
>
> You and Sid have a difficult time allowing people to feel & see
> differently then yourselves. Possibly you have mistaken that you are
> called to be a Healer as much as it is just your personality to want
> to "fix" people to think like you.
I said for me it was a arch dig (yes it had sex scenes).
You said it was an erotic turn on and that is all (making it seem that I
was wrong). But you did not say for you it was only an erotic turn on.
If you would have said for you, there wouldn't have been any other
discussion about it.
Plus.. the pshaw was a funny noise to sort of show that I wasn't being
so serious.
That butter guy is not sexual at all to me. To people really buy the
products (butter and books) because of him, or because they recognize
the contents of the book with him?
Lady Azure, Baroness o De North Pole
> �others" fall through the cracks. But that is caring to me, the
> sentiment is a caring nature to me.
>
> You almost seem nihilists in your belief about sentiment. If so, then I
> do not understand how you can tolerate as C.S. Lewis puts it
> �transcendental interference� by your gods and spirits, let alone ren.
>
> If I understand you correctly, then your core happy and my core happy
> violate each other by their nature.
>
> Perhaps this is simply a difference in the "English" of our word useage?
You must try to understand Mahayana, the "Universal Church". it is only
through understanding "ALL", one can find "ALL"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can not find "ALL" but owning one solitary slant of the Facets of a
Diamond.
�
Lady Azure, Baroness o De North Pole
Then please to allow me Fellowship alone the Path.
Why has the House of Guan Yin, become such a terror to you????
Have you forgotten the inner child, do you refuse to ask questions, become the
"Know It All",� who will defeat the Angel of Knowledge Himself?
�
�
Lady Azure, Baroness o De North Pole
Sorta Kinda
�
Lady Azure, Baroness o De North Pole
> free love and women�s rights and how love conquered even in this regime.
>
> A few thoughts that come out in my mind was how dry her skin was, and
> how she snuck butter to put on her lips to quench their dryness.
>
> ...Finding people to help her out of her plight.
>
> However, I was referring to the discovery that the child of the attic made.
>
> It was over 12 years ago when I read it, maybe close to 20. I believe
> the book was found in an attic by a young girl, who wondered if the
> handmaiden ever made it out alive to her husband. I believe that attic
> was like an archaeologist dig.. or perhaps it was something that was
> found from the long lost past as example of that society?
Avatar's can not be stopped, they are the Story Unending.
Would you end the Tale?
"I", would.
Rather tied of coming back here just to get beat down.
�
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Lady Azure, Baroness o De North Pole wrote:
>
> You must try to understand Mahayana, the "Universal Church". it is only
> through understanding "ALL", one can find "ALL"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> You can not find "ALL" but owning one solitary slant of the Facets of a
> Diamond.
> ÔøΩ
>
Oy! such a profound understanding of Vedic literature that the bare ass
would use "Mahayana" and "understand "ALL" in the same sentence.
Perhaps the bare ass don't realize that according to the vedas the "ALL"
is an illusion and can not be found much less understood.
Perhaps if the bare ass acutely got around to reading ..... oh i don't
know lets say "The Sutra of the 6th Patriarch" as just one of many texts
that explains the phenomenological basis of perceiving the illusion of
life, the world in the universe the bare ass's assertions would get a
little more traction.
As it is i suspect the Tao te Ching is probly too simple for the bare
ass to grasp. To grasp how her 'way' is more real than the illusion of
her individuality, it's "path" as it defines it, is probly more real
than any other aspect of its perfervid imagination.
However the bi - polar bare ass wants to mistake the way for the being
that goes on its way. And there lies its fatal flaw, it can not
conceive of being the way, only of it going on "its" brutal & highly
imaginative, mythological, semi divine, Royal way. And thus exalting
its ephemeral beauty/tragedy as its core reality.
IMO Lady, you have transcended the pathetic, you have achieved bathos.
*Chuckle* Sincere insincerity:)
I used to think you were just a "havnagoodtime" plaything, but i begin
to think you are a little too insistent, a bit too enthusiastic for what
would only be play. And of course, the obvious corollary, the bare ass
soccer thug, don't redeem you in the least. Enthusiasm for play does
not validate or legitimize the play as anything more than what it is.
Which, at best can be a learning experience. But in the bare ass's
case, intellectual hooliganism disguised as enthusiastic assertions of
its own propaganda is no more convincing as bare ass flatulence than it
would be with a more reasoned and reasonable dialogue.
Philosophically, you remind me more and more of the primitive savage
that can not conceive of the number 3. One, two, many. Though in our
bi - polar lady Bare Ass's case, i think its probly better written, One
too many:)
--
Mr. Swami Havanagoodtime Vishnuwerehere Esq.