On these groups, you will find two common definitions of "spell"
in use. One is based on Christian-type religious ideas and amounts
to rituals that will inspire some supposed deity to do something
magickal for you. Prayer, in-other-words.
The other comes from a strange hybrid of phsyical science and
real magickal lore that developed alongside of physical science,
which basically sees a spell as a ritual that will press the
right buttons on an invisible, supernatural magick machine.
Both of these definitions/methods are fallacious. You can have
some limited success with either one of them, but only because
you believe in them and are working, however inadvertantly, with
the real 'mechanics' of magick: You are focussing on an idea(s),
your goal.
A belief is a spell. A belief is composed of a central idea
that has been reinforced by emotion and imagination. A belief
differs from a thought in that it is stronger and more stable.
One casts a spell and when this has been done successfully, it
manifests and moves to the background of your conscious mind
where it is maintained.
Sid
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My newsfilter kills more than half the posts to these groups,
including replies to any name in my killfile. So if I don't
respond to a reply it is because I didn't see it.
Thou shalt not suffer a troll to speak in thine presence.
You use a lot of words that I don't believe in or use.
I like to "manifest" reality. I don't do spells.
I honestly believe that if you visualize and spend time doing your
homework and working on yourself you will gain success.
This is what I call manifestation, and it happens through imagination of
your possibilities, narrowing down the possibilities that you want to
work towards and then follow through in various ways whether that be
through mediation to see the paths you can take and then acting on these
paths, or on perfecting your art (which can be through visualization),
or other methods that are common to spells. But I also see this as
common business practice. We in this group might just go about it
differently than other groups of people. But then, we would also vary
greatly, between ourselves how we go about this work. Hopefully we stick
to what works and improve this art of what works so that we gain
beneficial lives/spirituality out of this work.
Well golly, we'll just have them removed from the world's
dictionaries tomorrow, and of course, I'll quit using them
immediately.
>
> I like to "manifest" reality.
You couldn't stop doing that if your tried.
>I don't do spells.
Yes you do.
>
> I honestly believe that if you visualize and spend time doing your
> homework and working on yourself you will gain success.
Then that belief (spell) will aid you. But just visualizing is
leaving out emotions and ideas. You can't really, but you can
minimize them and thus reduce the effectiveness of your spell
casting, which is what you are talking about.
As for doing your homework, it depends on what you mean by that.
If it's reading the garbage that ren and others on these groups
say is about magick, then you are doing yourself more harm than
good.
>
> This is what I call manifestation, and it happens through imagination of
> your possibilities, narrowing down the possibilities that you want to
> work towards and then follow through in various ways whether that be
> through mediation to see the paths you can take and then acting on these
> paths, or on perfecting your art (which can be through visualization),
> or other methods that are common to spells.
That's all spellcasting.
> But I also see this as common business practice. We in this
> group might just go about it differently than other groups of
> people.
There are no common practices shared by all members of this group.
Most of the 'members' don't much of anything but post abuse anyway.
(Most of these 'members' being ren's sockpuppets, which he uses
to make it look as if he has a LOT more support than he does.)
> But then, we would also vary greatly, between ourselves
> how we go about this work. Hopefully we stick to what works
> and improve this art of what works so that we gain beneficial
> lives/spirituality out of this work.
That last paragraph is very nice. But most of the people here
aren't sticking with what works. They are very dogmatic, even
though the ideas about magick they profess don't work very
well at all.
Ren is supposed to be the most advanced person here, and he
is nothing but a bag of wind. He's been threatening people
with magickal harm day in and day out, ever since I've arrived
here, and who has he harmed?
What he calls magick is useless garbage. He couldn't make
water wet or a bird fly or a rose smell good.
> I like to "manifest" reality. I don't do spells.
>
> I honestly believe that if you visualize and spend time doing your
> homework and working on yourself you will gain success.
You are correct. Magick does not work unless you have a clear plan for
the future. It is so well planned and visualized that it will
"manifest".
Now when you apply Lucid Dreaming techniques to that, you'll have
dynamic magickal ability.
Magick works all the time. It's the only thing that is happenning
in the universe.
Whatever your personal reality is, good or ill, it is a magickal
creation.
The only difference between an ordinary person and a magician
is that the magician knows this.
> Now when you apply Lucid Dreaming techniques to that, you'll have
> dynamic magickal ability.
Lucid dreaming is another subject entirely.
And no, Ren, I don't believe you have mastered lucid dreaming.
That takes a level of discipline that you obviously do not have.
I know what you did last night, Sid