Michael Mary line
Leotine
MB gif file. Turned out to be a map of the Michael Mary line. Before
hitting the DEL key, I took another look at it. I was intrigued.
Especially since the line goes through Bury St. Edmunds (thats why all
those people are trampling through my garden !). So I have decided to
cut the gif file down to size, make a new page, and put some pointers
and comments as it goes through my part of the country.
but,
I NEED HELP on this one. Francis and Shez - you have just volunteered.
Here is francis' original contribution. (Oh how they come back to
haunt you :-))
/quote/
francis freespirit:
I am working on at the moment is to do with a section of the famous
Michael and Mary Line (http://www.greatdreams.com/anover.htm) (map at:
http://www.greatdreams.com/newline.gif) in the southern part of the
UK. Some of the old British places still have their ancient magic.
Even some of the newer (Norman &c) churches have a glistening earth
dragon deep down below the altar. Then the Ridgeway and the Icknield
way are both pilgrim routes of yore where the chatter and the bustle
of travellers from centuries past can still be heard.
/etouq/
What I need is information on these places which are marked on the
line.
/list/
hopton
beccles
ditchingham
hoxne
eye
stowlangtoft
woolpit
bury st. edmunds
kirtling
wandlebury ring
ickleton
royston
luton-waulud's bank
mentmore
dunstable
aylesbury
ivinghoe beacon
dorchester
sinodun castle
windmill hill
avebury
devil's bed and bolster
sanctuary
st. michael's trull
creech st. michael
corfe
holcombe ragus
crediton
cadbury castle
preston castle
spinsters rock
yes tor
lydford
greenwring
the hurlers
roche rock
lostwithiell
resugga castle
old kea
truro
gormoe
st. michael's mount
/end list/
some I can figure out myself, like Woolpit, and Bury St. Eds. Also
"Yes Tor" - from the album by the rock group, and "Lost what i hell"
is self explanatory. Cadbury Castle is where the chocolate comes from.
Glastonbury we all think we know about, but it does no harm to have
another revisit.
Well it is a bit more ON topic than the florida elections (IMO) and
something that the whole group can put input and a bit of steam into.
(Yes please)
I'll go upload the M & M line page tonite - skeleton format, so you
can all see what the heck I am talking about. While you are there, you
can also revisit the Power Places (read Mr. Ballard's contribution).
The site is at www.leotine.freewire.co.uk for newbies. Remember, the
painters are in giving it a new lick-o paint so be tolerant ("Always
Am" shouts the man at the back)
and lets see what we can discover between us. (1.2.3.Go. Bet I get to
Google before you :-))
I'll do the Okie trial, next for you in the USA, promise. Not so many
stone rings, but plenty of exhuasted gold mines and ghost towns :-))
(and wagon ruts along the way)
Leotine
Leotine
>and lets see what we can discover between us. (1.2.3.Go. Bet I get to
>Google before you :-))
Gosh. Pandora and I reaaly know how to do things. !!
Sorry about the bad spulling. It is 3.15 am, the only time I came get
a straight conection th the NG these days. The Google search floored
me. So lots and lots of goodies there. Even Jackdaws Cheesewings wigs
show up on the line. Go see:
http://michael.spiralwave.co.uk/background/michaelleyline.htm
and start from there.
Seems like the M&M line goes through Tibet and Sydney but nowhere near
the US.
Hope thsi will be a good thrad to chew.
Please tell me how the download time is at my web site. My 'pooter
don't seem to be caching the pages - any idea why ???
Time for bed. gid nich.
(he of the square eyes and rubber fingers)
Leotine
psc...@bellsouth.net
Leotine wrote:
> J...@Tesco.net (Leotine) wrote:
>
> <snip>
> Please tell me how the download time is at my web site. My 'pooter
> don't seem to be caching the pages - any idea why ???
>
> <snip>
> Leotine
Your cache file is probably full. Try deleting some of it.
Wahnyeh
Leotine
Cache file is empty. and the Cash file is pretty near damn empty !
Leotine
francis freespirit
<J...@Tesco.net> writes
>In the process of cleaning up my web site, I came across a huge half MB
>gif file. Turned out to be a map of the Michael Mary line. Before
>hitting the DEL key, I took another look at it. I was intrigued.
>Especially since the line goes through Bury St. Edmunds (thats why all
>those people are trampling through my garden !). So I have decided to
>cut the gif file down to size, make a new page, and put some pointers
>and comments as it goes through my part of the country.
>
>but,
>I NEED HELP on this one. Francis and Shez - you have just volunteered.
I refer the Honor A Bull Member to the secret tomb of Hamish Miller &
Paul Broadhurst where in Sol and Sir Pens are ex Pounded for yr Dee Lick
Station.
--
francis freespirit
oxford, england
Shez
<J...@Tesco.net> writes
>In the process of cleaning up my web site, I came across a huge half
>MB gif file. Turned out to be a map of the Michael Mary line. Before
>hitting the DEL key, I took another look at it. I was intrigued.
>Especially since the line goes through Bury St. Edmunds (thats why all
>those people are trampling through my garden !). So I have decided to
>cut the gif file down to size, make a new page, and put some pointers
>and comments as it goes through my part of the country.
>
>but,
>I NEED HELP on this one. Francis and Shez - you have just volunteered.
Thanks... As an ex WRAF... I never volunteer for anything on
principle...:)
>
>Here is francis' original contribution. (Oh how they come back to
>haunt you :-))
>/quote/
>francis freespirit:
>I am working on at the moment is to do with a section of the famous
>Michael and Mary Line (http://www.greatdreams.com/anover.htm) (map at:
>http://www.greatdreams.com/newline.gif) in the southern part of the
>UK. Some of the old British places still have their ancient magic.
>Even some of the newer (Norman &c) churches have a glistening earth
>dragon deep down below the altar. Then the Ridgeway and the Icknield
>way are both pilgrim routes of yore where the chatter and the bustle
>of travellers from centuries past can still be heard.
>/etouq/
>
>What I need is information on these places which are marked on the
>line.
What is the Michael and Mary line, It might be famous but I have never
heard of it, you don't mean the Peddars way do you the largest ley line
going through this county which bisects another famous ley line the
Ikenield way , then the Ridge way which ends up at Averbury. Which then
runs across to the ley line that ends up at Stonehenge. ?
The other end of the Peddars way comes out on the coast of Norfolk, very
close to the Sea henge that was discovered a few years ago, it was
obviously a major processional way, and their have been many circles or
wood henges found close by, though all of them wood in Norfolk and
Suffolk where large stones were difficult to come by.
>
>/list/
>hopton
By the sea, Hopton is a holiday village these days, its not that many
centuries since it was a sand bank, and very marshy... it would have
been quite difficult to get to in medieval times. Its little more than a
sand bank now,
>beccles
Nice old town, has one or two unusual travellers tales attached to it,
including a visit by the devil in medieval times.
>ditchingham
>hoxne
>eye
>stowlangtoft
>woolpit
>bury st. edmunds
Old Roman town, and famous for its temples. Woods nearby with a very
errie atmosphere several large ley lines most of which touch the woods
one goes through the town and main church. St Edmund is supposed to be
buried here, though half of Norfolk claim that he died in there towns
and villages.
>kirtling
>wandlebury ring
>ickleton
Anything with an Ick in it is or once was an Iceni village or
stronghold, the Romans softened the hard K, and made it a soft C. so
Iceni would have been originally pronounced Ikenny... and their are many
villages that start with an Ike, its thought most Iceni settlements were
on land chosen by, or sanctified by their religious order the druids.
The Ikenie way once must have been a major rout for the Celtic tribes to
visit East Anglia, along with the Peddars way, and ridge way they all
intercept each other at various points.
>royston
>luton-waulud's bank
>mentmore
>dunstable
>aylesbury
Quite a large pagan coven in this area...
>ivinghoe beacon
>dorchester
>sinodun castle
>windmill hill
>avebury
A circle and a large ley line in this area, it has a wonderful
atmosphere.
>devil's bed and bolster
>sanctuary
>st. michael's trull
>creech st. michael
>corfe
>holcombe ragus
>crediton
>cadbury castle
Thought by many to be the original site for Camelot, I have visited it,
and its got a large ley line running through, it was certainly an Iron
age fort... though not much of it is left, its quite an eirie place.
a village surrounds it these days, but not far away are very ancient
woodlands going back millennia.
>preston castle
>spinsters rock
>yes tor
Burial mound, lots of tors are burial mounds. Or sites of ancient pagan
worship
>lydford
>greenwring
>the hurlers
>roche rock
>lostwithiell
>resugga castle
>old kea
>truro
Truro Cornwall I suppose, a lovely place, though hard on the knees, lots
of ups and downs, I didn't notice anything special while I was their
though its setting on the coast is truly lovely.
>gormoe
>st. michael's mount
Fantastic place St Michael's mount, seeing it as we came round a bend,
sparkling in a turquoise blue sea with the castle almost a silhouette in
the bright sunshine was truly magical, one of the most beautiful places
I have ever seen. And yes it has a very strong atmosphere and a ley
line.
>/end list/
>
>some I can figure out myself, like Woolpit, and Bury St. Eds. Also
>"Yes Tor" - from the album by the rock group, and "Lost what i hell"
>is self explanatory. Cadbury Castle is where the chocolate comes from.
>Glastonbury we all think we know about, but it does no harm to have
>another revisit.
Glastonbury is an old tramping ground, and I love going their, though I
can no longer get up to the mound itself, the garden where the springs
come out is very peaceful, several major ley lines, and the Wizard
Merlin was thought to have explained to a local King why he couldn't
build his castle by a lake their, he said their were a red and white
dragon under where the castle would be built that were fighting,
bringing down whatever had been built that day down by the next morning,
Its also though to be the setting of Avalon, the mystic Island where
Arthur was taken by the queens, their was certainly a lake in the valley
by the mount, and the mount itself has been studied their is an ancient
processional way that circles the mount like a serpent going up to the
top. Also near by are ancient thorn trees, said to have grown from the
Staff of St Joseph, when he visited Britain.
Their is the ruins of an old monastery where Arthur and Gwenivier are
said to be buried, but that was mostly a shrill by the monks to bring
more money to the monastery...
Some think that the Tor itself is where Arthur is buried waiting to be
brought back to this world again when Britain needs him,
The place has an atmosphere the springs are quite special and the mount
itself Glastonbury tor is amazing, their was a temple at the top at one
time, though it was replaced by a small church with a tower, the tower
of course still exists, but the feeling of pagan and powerful hangs
around the place like a blanket.
>
>Well it is a bit more ON topic than the florida elections (IMO) and
>something that the whole group can put input and a bit of steam into.
>(Yes please)
>
>I'll go upload the M & M line page tonite - skeleton format, so you
>can all see what the heck I am talking about. While you are there, you
>can also revisit the Power Places (read Mr. Ballard's contribution).
>
>The site is at www.leotine.freewire.co.uk for newbies. Remember, the
>painters are in giving it a new lick-o paint so be tolerant ("Always
>Am" shouts the man at the back)
>
>and lets see what we can discover between us. (1.2.3.Go. Bet I get to
>Google before you :-))
>
>I'll do the Okie trial, next for you in the USA, promise. Not so many
>stone rings, but plenty of exhuasted gold mines and ghost towns :-))
>(and wagon ruts along the way)
>
>Leotine
>
--
Shez sh...@oldcity.demon.co.uk
Leotine
>Thanks... As an ex WRAF... I never volunteer for anything on
>principle...:)
As an ex WRVS drill sergeant: "U, U, and U. Aboot turn. Ferward March.
Luff Rite, Luff Rite, Luff Rite, Luff Rite..."
<snippo>>
>>What I need is information on these places which are marked on the
>>line.
>
>What is the Michael and Mary line, It might be famous but I have never
>heard of it, you don't mean the Peddars way do you the largest ley line
>going through this county which bisects another famous ley line the
>Ikenield way , then the Ridge way which ends up at Averbury.
like the arwm MAP looks like this is another geographical project that
I have dropped myself into. I will be posting stuff on the Michael &
Mary line at my web site www.leotine.freewire.co.uk. (Also must put up
the guest book so you can sign in and leave gems of wisdom (Ta!))
>>hopton
>
>By the sea, Hopton is a holiday village these days, its not that many
>centuries since it was a sand bank, and very marshy... it would have
>been quite difficult to get to in medieval times. Its little more than a
>sand bank now,
I was wondering about that. It wasn't until the the time of King
William and Mary did the Dutch engineers start to drain the Fens.
Until then it was boggy and dangerous. (more exploring to do).
So why would anyone want to go the Hopton. Maybe they did a left turn
to Norwich and only the foolish or those without instructions end up
it Hopton ("and serve them right !" says Mrs. Mop)
<sadly snippage>
Thank you Shez and big Leotine Hug to you. You have been a great help.
Leotine
I wonder if anyone will post asking for details of the "Luft" Rite ???
Leotine
Leotine
>I refer the Honor A Bull Member to the secret tomb of Hamish Miller &
>Paul Broadhurst where in Sol and Sir Pens are ex Pounded for yr Dee Lick
>Station.
For a moment there I thought it was sexy spam, with words like
"pounded" and "lick". The blery eyes havent full opened and the brian
needs another charge of lava java coffee before the congigive
processes kick in.
Sppeelchucker where are you ?
That will teach me to "Dance with the Dragons" till late at night :-)
and read NGs first think in the morning !
Thanks Francis
Leotine
Leigh
<snip>
> Leotine
It's wot German pilots did to have a safe flight innit?
Luftwaffer Rite innit?
;-))
Leigh
Shez
<J...@Tesco.net> writes
>Shez <sh...@oldcity.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Thanks... As an ex WRAF... I never volunteer for anything on
>>principle...:)
>
>As an ex WRVS drill sergeant: "U, U, and U. Aboot turn. Ferward March.
>Luff Rite, Luff Rite, Luff Rite, Luff Rite..."
Get on yer bike mate..... I was a technical grade, we never ran into
Male Sergeants, all female for us...he.he.
>
><snippo>>
>>>What I need is information on these places which are marked on the
>>>line.
>>
>>What is the Michael and Mary line, It might be famous but I have never
>>heard of it, you don't mean the Peddars way do you the largest ley line
>>going through this county which bisects another famous ley line the
>>Ikenield way , then the Ridge way which ends up at Averbury.
>
>like the arwm MAP looks like this is another geographical project that
>I have dropped myself into. I will be posting stuff on the Michael &
>Mary line at my web site www.leotine.freewire.co.uk. (Also must put up
>the guest book so you can sign in and leave gems of wisdom (Ta!))
>
>>>hopton
>>
>>By the sea, Hopton is a holiday village these days, its not that many
>>centuries since it was a sand bank, and very marshy... it would have
>>been quite difficult to get to in medieval times. Its little more than a
>>sand bank now,
>I was wondering about that. It wasn't until the the time of King
>William and Mary did the Dutch engineers start to drain the Fens.
>Until then it was boggy and dangerous. (more exploring to do).
In fact the Fens were so dangerous that you had to have a guide to get
about, the old fens always remind me of the Lord of the rings, where
Frodo and Sam went through a marsh land where strange lights bobbed
under the water and led you astray, I wonder if Tolkien visited the fens
at some point in his life and remembered them when he wrote those
chapters.
Their are so many old tales of will o the wisps in the Finland's that I
am often suprised people survived here, it was really a kingdom in its
own right, almost cut of from the rest of the country, even had it own
language until a hundred or so years ago, and the deep Norfolk accent as
I remember when I first arrived here, was almost totally foreign, I had
great difficulty trying to make out what people said.
Hopton and along the coast Yarmouth were both sand banks, and Both are
relatively recent as time goes, The Saxons used huts on the sand banks
seasonally for fishing, for salt ponds, and for gathering winkles and
whelks... it wasn't until the middle ages that any sort of long term
building was put their and only because the sea had left the Sand banks
high and dry at that time,
Tides change, and they can change back, its thought with global warming
that the higher sea levels will cover Yarmouth and places like Hopton in
the next hundred years or so,
Within that time, if its deep enough Norwich may yet again be a port
city with a large estuary as it was before the draining of the marshes.
>
>So why would anyone want to go the Hopton. Maybe they did a left turn
>to Norwich and only the foolish or those without instructions end up
>it Hopton ("and serve them right !" says Mrs. Mop)
I must admit I wouldn't go, its the back end of beyond, just sand with a
few wooden cottages, a caravan park a tiny village, and a few amusements
its been flooded often, You cant grow anything in the gardens their, its
all sand, the village has only been around for a few hundred years, it
was mostly lived in by fishermen.
>
><sadly snippage>
>
>Thank you Shez and big Leotine Hug to you. You have been a great help.
Glad if its been some use, East Anglian history the old East Anglia of
Norfolk and Suffolk, fascinates me, perhaps because I am was not born
and brought up in the area, familiarity tends to breed contempt. I have
no such interest in my Original birthplace. :)
>
>Leotine
>
>I wonder if anyone will post asking for details of the "Luft" Rite ???
>Leotine
>
--
Shez sh...@oldcity.demon.co.uk
Leotine
>In article <q305uugcur05npg8k...@4ax.com>, Leotine
><J...@Tesco.net> writes
>>Shez <sh...@oldcity.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks... As an ex WRAF... I never volunteer for anything on
>>>principle...:)
>>
>>As an ex WRVS drill sergeant: "U, U, and U. Aboot turn. Ferward March.
>>Luff Rite, Luff Rite, Luff Rite, Luff Rite..."
>
>Get on yer bike mate..... I was a technical grade, we never ran into
>Male Sergeants, all female for us...he.he.
I did say "WRVS" - Womens Royal Voluteer Service. Bit of cross
dressing did no harm to nobody.
>I must admit I wouldn't go, its the back end of beyond, just sand with a
>few wooden cottages, a caravan park a tiny village
Ah, but me and the love of my life, the keeper of my heart, sat there
on the beach and watched the sunset. ("It faces East, you twit", says
Little Voice) Ok the sunset watched us. And was where I found the Holy
Stone that I gave to her. (sigh)
Leotine
Shez
<J...@Tesco.net> writes
>Shez <sh...@oldcity.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In article <q305uugcur05npg8k...@4ax.com>, Leotine
>><J...@Tesco.net> writes
>>>Shez <sh...@oldcity.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks... As an ex WRAF... I never volunteer for anything on
>>>>principle...:)
>>>
>>>As an ex WRVS drill sergeant: "U, U, and U. Aboot turn. Ferward March.
>>>Luff Rite, Luff Rite, Luff Rite, Luff Rite..."
>>
>>Get on yer bike mate..... I was a technical grade, we never ran into
>>Male Sergeants, all female for us...he.he.
>
>I did say "WRVS" - Womens Royal Voluteer Service. Bit of cross
>dressing did no harm to nobody.
With your beard and moustache even with dark glasses on I would have
noticed your were not female, no matter what you dressed in, Besides the
voluntary forces, didn't give route marches, or Yell across a parade
ground. :)
>
>>I must admit I wouldn't go, its the back end of beyond, just sand with a
>>few wooden cottages, a caravan park a tiny village
>
>Ah, but me and the love of my life, the keeper of my heart, sat there
>on the beach and watched the sunset. ("It faces East, you twit", says
>Little Voice) Ok the sunset watched us. And was where I found the Holy
>Stone that I gave to her. (sigh)
How romantic, did you come back with your shoes full of sand, its that
sort of place.... now by a waterfall, or on a moonlit Scottish
beach...or mountain, now that is romantic.
>
>
>Leotine
>
--
Shez sh...@oldcity.demon.co.uk
Gale
<snip>
>
> Ah, but me and the love of my life, the keeper of my heart, sat there
> on the beach and watched the sunset. ("It faces East, you twit", says
> Little Voice) Ok the sunset watched us.
..."Listen! you hear the grating roar
Of pebbles which the waves draw back, and fling ...
... down the vast edges drear
And naked shingles of the world."
Opps, I guess I'm more than a few miles too far south with that quote,
but I am on an English beach, facing East -- but, unlike the quote's
author, see nothing drear about the naked shingles of the World.
I recall spending my honeymoon at a beach on the western side of the
Puddle, also looking east, and having far, far too much fun to write sad
and mournful poetry about anything. I assume that such was also the case
with you.
--
Blessed Be,
Gale
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