Shin Gil Moon, Nan Sook Son dies
Harlaquinaphobia
January 3, 2006
The following articles chronicle the death of Shin Gil Moon,
the only son of Hyo Jin Moon and Nan Sook Hong. Hyo Jin Moon
and Nan Sook Hong have four children, three daughters and
Shin Gil.
None of the articles mention Shin Gil by name, because of
his age at the time of his death, 17. Shin Gil was born
December 26, 1987 by the Lunar calendar. Shin Gil's 18th
birthday would have fallen on January 25, 2006 on the solar
calendar.
On January 1, 2006, Hyo Jin Moon spoke to Unification Church
members at Belvedere, Tarrytown, NY about the death of his
son Shin Gil in the traffic accident in Massachusetts.
Teen Dies After High-Speed Crash
December 28, 2005
A 17-year-old died Wednesday after he lost control of the
Mercedes he was driving on Memorial Drive in Cambridge.
NewsCenter 4's Lynn Jolicoeur reported that Massachusetts
State Police officers said that a trooper patrolling the
area at about 4 a.m. saw the car approaching him at a high
rate of speed.
"He made an attempt to catch up to that vehicle and stop
that vehicle for the violation. Upon doing so, while they
were traveling eastbound, he came upon an accident,"
Massachusetts State Police Sgt. Mike Fiore said. "According
to the radio transmissions, he was making an attempt to
catch up to that vehicle. Whether the operator knew he was
going to be stopped by police, that's unknown."
The Mercedes crashed after passing under the Longfellow
Bridge. The driver was not wearing a seatbelt. His
passenger, Richard Le, 19, of Cambridge, was not injured.
"The passenger had been seat belted and escaped with no
injuries," Fiore said.
Lee's mother said that her son was friends with the victim
from school. The teen's name was not released.
Police say driver, 17, sped to his death
Trooper had spotted vehicle in Cambridge
By John R. Ellement, Globe Staff
December 29, 2005
CAMBRIDGE -- A 17-year-old Cambridge resident died early
yesterday after losing control of the 2001 Mercedes-Benz he
was driving as a police cruiser tried to catch up with the
speeding car, State Police said.
The crash occurred on Memorial Drive near the Longfellow
Bridge and closed the highway for 3 1/2 hours yesterday
morning.
The name of the teenager was not released by State Police,
who cited an "informal policy" of not identifying crash
victims under age 18.
They said the crash occurred around 4 a.m. as the
Mercedes-Benz, carrying two teenagers, headed east on
Memorial Drive near the Longfellow Bridge.
Police said Trooper Patrick Moynihan was driving west on
Memorial Drive, near its intersection with Massachusetts
Avenue, around 4 a.m., when he saw a black sedan traveling
at high speed in the opposite direction on the road, which
runs along the northern bank of the Charles River.
According to police Moynihan turned around, activating his
lights and siren, in an effort to catch the speeding car.
But when he passed under the Longfellow Bridge, he saw that
the car had crashed, police said.
The driver was not wearing a seat belt and was pronounced
dead at the scene. His passenger, identified by State Police
as 19-year-old Richard Le of Cambridge, was wearing a seat
belt and survived without serious injury, police said.
Cambridge school officials said Le is a 2004 graduate of
Cambridge Ridge and Latin High School.
At his family's home yesterday in Cambridge, Le's mother
said that she was relieved her son had survived but that she
was deeply upset at the death of the other youth, whom she
described as a longtime friend of her son's. She said she
did not know the boy's full name, but that both he and her
son had been students at Cambridge's high school.
With reporters present, Le's mother spoke with her son by
telephone yesterday while he was at his friend's house.
Through her son, the mother of the dead youth declined to
comment.
"They are very sad," said Le's mother, who asked that her
name not be published out of respect for the teenager's
family.
The accident occurred as the Mercedes was heading onto Land
Boulevard. Police said the car smashed into the guardrail on
the right side of the road, then caromed across the travel
lanes before striking the guardrails on the left side. The
vehicle rolled over several times before coming to rest on
its side. The accident remains under investigation.
Lieutenant Sharon Costine, chief spokeswoman for the State
Police, said the encounter "never got to the level where
this was a long, drawn-out pursuit."
"It happened so quickly . . . the trooper never even caught
up with" the Mercedes, she said.
Costine estimated that 20 to 30 seconds elapsed from the
time Moynihan spotted the speeding car until he came upon
the wreckage.
Costine said the teenager was driving after his license had
been suspended, but she would not disclose the infractions
that led the Registry of Motor Vehicles to sanction him.
Costine provided a copy of the department's written pursuit
policy, which includes the directive that "in certain
circumstances, the most intelligent course of action may be
to not pursue or to abandon pursuit."
The policy also requires troopers to notify superiors that
they have initiated a pursuit and to use emergency lights
and sirens, except when communicating over the radio, and to
describe the location to other troopers "in clear, concise
[language] as unemotional as possible."
Moynihan reported by radio that he had initiated a search
for a speeding car, State Police said.
Jhn R. Ellement can be reached at elle...@globe.com.
Two killed on Cambridge streets
By Chris Helms/ Cambridge Chronicle Staff
December 29, 2005
The main roads around MIT claimed two lives within 48 hours
this week.
A Boston woman died Monday after being struck by a vehicle
as she walked across Mass. Ave.
Then yesterday morning, a 17-year-old from Cambridge driving
a black Mercedes died after being partially ejected from his
car in a Memorial Drive crash.
State Police said a trooper saw a Mercedes speeding
eastbound around 4 a.m. Wednesday. The trooper gave chase.
The driver of the Mercedes lost control of the vehicle
around the Longfellow Bridge. The car slammed into the right
guardrail, went back across two lanes of traffic and hit the
left guardrail, according to Trooper Veronica Dalton.
The driver wasn't wearing a seatbelt. Richard Le, 19, also
of Cambridge, the passenger who was wearing his seatbelt,
was not injured. Le graduated from Cambridge Rindge and
Latin School in 2004. The driver's name will not be released
because of his age, State Police said.
Memorial Drive was closed to eastbound traffic for nearly
four hours after the wreck while police investigated the
scene. . .
Contact Chris Helms at che...@cnc.com.
Two killed on Cambridge streets
By Chris Helms/ Cambridge Chronicle Staff
December 29, 2005
The main roads around MIT claimed two lives within 48 hours
this week...
State Police said a trooper saw a Mercedes speeding
eastbound around 4 a.m. Wednesday. The trooper gave chase.
The driver of the Mercedes lost control of the vehicle
around the Longfellow Bridge.
The car slammed into the right guardrail, went back across
two lanes of traffic and hit the left guardrail, according
to Trooper Veronica Dalton.
The driver wasn't wearing a seatbelt. Richard Le, 19, also
of Cambridge, the passenger who was wearing his seatbelt,
was not injured. Le graduated from Cambridge Rindge and
Latin School in 2004.
The driver's name will not be released because of his age,
State Police said. Memorial Drive was closed to eastbound
traffic for nearly four hours after the wreck while police
investigated the scene...
Fatal early morning crash shuts down Memorial Drive
By Associated Press
December 28, 2005
CAMBRIDGE - A teenager was killed in rollover accident
shortly after police tried to stop him for speeding on
Memorial Drive early Wednesday, police said. The driver,
identified by police only as a 17-year-old male, crashed his
car while trying to make a turn beneath the Longfellow
Bridge at about 4 a.m.
A passenger, Richard Le, 19, of Cambridge, was not hurt. The
accident closed Memorial Drive for several hours. State
police Sgt. Mike Fiore said an officer patrolling Memorial
Drive saw the car speeding and tried to catch up to it.
Moments later, he found it crashed under the Longfellow
Bridge, Fiore said. Police said the driver had lost control
of the car, struck a guardrail on the right side of the
highway, veered across both lanes and struck the left
guardrail, which caused the car to roll over.
The driver, who was not wearing a seat belt, was partially
thrown from the car. He was pronounced dead at the scene,
according to state police Sgt. Roy Minnehan. Eastbound lanes
were reopened shortly after 7:30 a.m.
CRLS mourns car crash victim
By Sarah Andrews/ Chronicle Staff
January 5, 2006
Students, teachers and administrators at Cambridge Rindge
and Latin School held a moment of remembrance Tuesday
morning in honor of a 17-year-old boy who was killed last
Wednesday in a car accident on Memorial Drive. Justin
Martin, schools spokesman, said the school took time to
honor the CRLS student at the beginning of the school day.
Principal Sybil Knight said a few words about the student,
and counselors were offered to all grieving students and
staff members.
Knight did not return calls to the Chronicle before
deadline, and Martin did not release the teenager's
identity. His name is still unknown. State Police who
investigated the crash said they will not release the names
of victims under the age of 18, unless there is an arrest
involved. In Massachusetts, people age 17 or older can be
tried as an adult. No obituary notices for the driver, who
was not wearing a seatbelt, had been issued as of Tuesday.
Martin said the school expects there will be a memorial
service later this week, but he is still waiting for
details.
The accident occurred last Wednesday at 4 a.m. on Memorial
Drive. The driver was accompanied by Richard Le, 19, a 2004
graduate of CRLS, who was wearing a seatbelt and was not
injured. Le also could not be reached before the Chronicle's
deadline.
According to State Police, the driver was speeding down
Memorial Drive in a black Mercedes Benz when he was spotted
by a trooper. The trooper followed, but by the time he
caught up with the car it had crashed into the right
guardrail near the Longfellow Bridge, veered across the road
and crashed into the left guardrail. Sergeant Scott Range
said medical examinations were not yet completed and gave no
factor other than speed in the cause of the accident.
Last week, the Boston Globe cited Lt. Sharon Costine as
saying that the driver's license had been suspended at the
time of the accident, though Range would not confirm this,
citing legal reasons.
Contact Sarah Andrews at sand...@cnc.com.
Update: Shin Gil
January 11, 2006
Fyi
Shin Gil was cremated and his ashes were sprinkled by his
mum in the Charles River two days after his accidental
death. His mum did not want a fight over the body. Tonight
there will be a farewell ceremony at Belvedere to wish him
off to Korea where there will be a Seung Hwa ceremony. There
will not be a body, but some blood has been obtained from
the car and apparently that is sufficient to give his spirit
a base to relate to in the PW.
The car was very bady damaged. Apparently it hit a side
barrier at speed, bounced off and hit the center barrier and
then went back across the road and hit a bridge embankment
head on.
I know the above may be a bit odd to some here, but I think
out of respect we can reflect on a young life needlessly
lost.
Best wishes,
Michael
Gordon
Shin Gin Moon was being prayed for in 1999,wonder why?
Gordon Muir.
Harlaquinaphobia
"Gordon" <gordonmuir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1142863158....@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Talks/Despres/Despres-Prayer.htm
> Shin Gin Moon was being prayed for in 1999,wonder why?
>
> Gordon Muir.
>
Yes, I noticed that the children were prayed for. Notice
that Nan Sook was NOT prayed for!
Also notice that Hyo Jin and his new wifee are included.
CLIP??? 2. Hyo Jin Nim (b. 12/3/62) and Yun Ah Nim (b. ? )
[blessed February 5, 1999]
How typical.
Very conditional love.
Danny
Josef Oswald
> http://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Talks/Despres/Despres-Prayer.htm
> Shin Gin Moon was being prayed for in 1999,wonder why?
Why are you posting this in a misleading way, and present it here as if HE
WAS the only one, while in fact the list is much longer:
The Words of the Despres Family
Prayer List
Mary Jane Despres
December 27, 1999
A Prayer List - True Family, Saints working in the Current Dispensation,
Honored Elders, Leaders, Brothers and Sisters
Note: Dates below in italics are Lunar Calendar dates. These days are
celebrated according to the the Lunar Calendar. All other dates are Solar
Calendar dates. This name list is unofficial.
Heavenly Father
True Parents [blessed March 16, 1960, Lunar] Sun Myung Moon (b. 1/6/20)
and Hak Ja Han (b. 1/6/43) and their children [numbers 1 - 14]
1. Ye Jin Nim (b. 12/11/60) and Jin Whi Nim (b. 10/18/63) [blessed May 16, 1981]
Shin Bok Nim (b. 4/3/82)
Shin Goon Nim (b. 7/12/83)
Shin Hwa Nim (b. 3/11/88)
Shin Choon Nim (b. 12/2/90)
2. Hyo Jin Nim (b. 12/3/62) and Yun Ah Nim (b. ? ) [blessed February 5, 1999]
Shin Chul Nim (b. 11/21/99, Solar, not yet converted to Lunar)
and Hyo Jin Nim's Children with his first wife [True Parents' adopted
Daughter - adopted at the time of her blessing - Nan Sook (b. 3/21/66)
They were blessed January 7, 1982, yet this marriage was dissolved
before Hyo Jin Nim's remarriage.]
Shin Jung Nim (b. 1/16/83)
Shin Young Nim (b. 10/18/86)
Shin Gil Nim (b. 12/26/87)
Shin Ok Nim (b. 9/18/89)
Shin Hoon Nim (b. 10/6/94)
3. Hye Jin Nim (b. 7/27/64 - d. 8/4/64 unofficial, probably solar dates)
4. In Jin Nim (b. 7/18/65) and Jin Sung Nim (b. 2/18/63) [blessed February 20, 1984]
Shin Myung Nim (b. 9/8/86)
Shin Kwon Nim (b. 7/12/89)
Shin Sun Nim (b. 10/4/80)
Shin Yul Nim (b. 12/19/92)
Shin Pyung Nim (b. 11/11/96)
5. Heung Jin Nim (b. 10/23/66 - d. 1/3/84) and Hoon Sook Nim (b. 1/1/63)
[blessed February 20, 1984]
Shin Chul Nim (b. 2/27/92)
6. Un Jin Nim (b. 11/23/67) and Jin Hun Nim (b. 3/25/63) [blessed April 11, 1986]
Shin Yeon Nim (b. 4/23/90)
Shin Ji Nim (b. 7/30/94)
7. Hyun Jin Nim (b. 4/10/69) and Jun Sook Nim (b. 12/24/67) [blessed March 31, 1987]
Shin Won Nim (b. 2/11/88)
Shin Eh Nim (b. 9/16/89)
Shin Joong Nim (b. 8/2/93)
Shin Ha Nim (b. 10/14/98)
8. Kook Jin Nim (b. 6/14/70) and Soon Ju Nim (b. 8/15/72) [blessed January 10, 1989]
9. Kwon Jin Nim (b. 1/20/75) and Hwa Yun Nim (b. 9/20/77) [blessed April 16, 1995]
10. Sun Jin Nim (b. 6/15/76) and In Sup Nim (b. 9/11/72) [blessed April 16, 1995]
11. Young Jin Nim (b. 5/17/78 - d. 10/27/99) and Hwa Jung (b. 7/19/77) [blessed September 6, 1997]
Shin Ah Nim (b. ?) [who is under the care of Hoon Sook Nim]
12. Hyung Jin Nim (b. 8/6/79) and Yun Ah Nim (b. 10/7/78) [blessed September 6, 1997]
Shin Pal Nim (b. 9/24/98)
13. Yeon Jin Nim (b. 1/3/81)
14. Jeung Jin Nim (b. 4/25/82)
15. True Father's Son from his first marriage to Sun Kil Choi: Sung Jin
Nim (b. 3/1/46) and Dong Sook Nim (b. 1/30/55) [blessed July 18,1974]
Shin Il Nim (b. 4/4/81)
Shin Mi Nim (b. 9/18/77)
Shin Sook Nim (b. 1/23/84)
16. True Father's Son from his marriage relationship with Myung Hee Kim:
Hee Jin Nim (b.'54 ? - d. 8/1/69)
Hye Shin Nim (b.11/28/63 solar - d. 9/15/71) [blessed June 13, 1998]
17. True Father's Parents, Brothers and Sisters and Ancestors
Choong Mo Nim's Couple [Choong Mo means Loyal Mother] [blessed August
1995] Kyung Gye Kim and her husband, Kyung Eu Moon and True Father's
elder brother [blessed August 1995] Dea Hyung Nim [Dea Hyung means
Great Elder Brother], Yong Soo Moon and his wife, Chi Sook Ji
18. True Mother's Parents, Brother, and Ancestors
Dea Mo Nim's Couple [Dea Mo means Great Mother] [blessed August 1995]
Soon Ae Hong and her husband, Seung Woon Han and True Mother's brother
(through adoption) [blessed August 1995] Hyun Jin Kim and his wife,
Hwa Young Yim
19. Ye Su Nim's Couple [Blessed January 1971]
Jesus Christ and his wife, and their mission in North America
The Thirty-four Spirit World Couples blessed at the June 13, 1998 Blessing [numbers 20 - 27]
20. Biblical Figures
Adam and Eve
Cain and his wife
Abel and his wife
Noah and his wife
Abraham and Sarai
Isaac and Rebekah
Jacob and his wife [Rachel was blessed later, in 1999]
Moses and his wife [Moses wrote True Father of his beloved - not
Zipporah - before his Blessing]
Joshua and his wife
Caleb and his wife
John the Baptist and his wife
21. Mary and Joseph and their mission in Latin America
Founders of the major World Religions who received the Blessing with
earthly partners [numbers 22 - 25]
22. Confucius and Kyung-June Lee, their mission in China [and the Confucianist Sages]
23. Buddha and Won Pak Choi, their mission in Korea [and the Buddhist Saints]
24. Mohammed and Jong Ok Lee, their mission in the Muslim World [and the Muslim Saints]
25. Socrates and Myung Hee Kim [and other Sages]
26. Teachers about the Spiritual World
Emanuel Swedenborg and his wife Sundar Singh and his wife [and other
teachers about the Spiritual World]
27. Redeemed 20th century notorious Historical Criminals and Providential National Leaders
President of Korea - Syngman Rhee and his wife
President of Ehwa University - Hwal Ahn Kim and her husband
Vice-president of Ehwa University - Maria Pak and her husband, Ki Boong Lee
President of South Korea - Park Chung Hee and his wife
President of the United States - Dwight Eisenhower and Mamie
President of the United States - Richard Nixon and Pat
Prime Minister of Japan - Nobusuke Kishi and his wife
Prime Minister of Japan - Takeo Fukuda and his wife
Communist Philosopher - Karl Marx and Jenny
Communist Revolutionary ruler - Vladimir Lenin and his wife
Premier of the Soviet Union - Joseph Stalin and Nadezhda
Chinese Communist ruler - Mao Tse-t'ung and his wife
Premier of North Korea - Kim Il Sung and his wife
Chancellor of the Third Reich, Germany - Adolf Hitler and Eva
Prime Minister of Japan - Hideki Tojo and his wife
Dictator of Italy - Benito Mussolini and his wife
The 106 Saints sent by Dae Mo Nim from Chung Pyung via a special "Ceremony
of Appointment" on May 12, 1999 to support the Providence in America [with
"and spouse" added] All but two of the 106 (Cain and Abel of the June 13,
1998 Blessing [already on the list]) were spiritually blessed on February
7, 1999 and are listed in numbers 28 - 30 below. (The notes about them are
the work of Dr. Andrew Wilson.)
28. Prophets, Saints and Authors of the Old Testament among the "106
Saints" [and other Old Testament and Jewish Saints and Martyrs]
Daniel (1) - probably the anonymous author of the book of Daniel,
circa 165 BC, and his wife
Joel and his wife
Obadiah and his wife
Enoch and his wife
Gideon - a brave judge, and his wife
Samuel and his wife
David and his wife
Solomon and his wife
Elijah and his wife
Job and his wife
Jeremiah and his wife
Micah and his wife
Habakkuk and his wife
Haggai and his wife
Malachi and his wife
Elisha and his wife
Hezekiah - a good king of Judah, and his wife
Ezra and his wife
Nehemiah and his wife
Esther and her husband
Isaiah and his wife
Ezekiel and his wife
Hosea and his wife
Amos and his wife
Jonah (1) - probably the anonymous author of the book of Jonah, and his wife
Nahum and his wife
Zephaniah [Zebaniah] and his wife
Zechariah - the prophet, and his wife
Canaan - Ham's son, and his wife
Kedemah [Gedma] - a son of Ishmael and an Arab chief (Gen. 25:15), and his wife
Korah [Gorah] - leader of a rebellion in the wilderness, who died when
the earth swallowed him and his band. He is the arch-representative of
rebellion and faithlessness in Jewish tradition (Num 16); and his wife
Tamar and her husband
Rachel and her husband [Jacob was blessed June 16, 1998]
Benjamin - second son of Jacob and Rachel, and his wife
Shem [Sam] and his wife
Ham and his wife
Naarah or Naarai or Naharai [Naareh]- either Naarah, a good woman in
Judah's lineage (1 Chr 4:5-6); Naarai, one of David's soldiers (1 Chr
11:37); or Naharai, another of David's soldiers (1 Chr 11:39); and
spouse
Nogah [Noga] - a son of David (1 Chr 3:7), and his wife
Nimrod - Mesopotamian hero-king (Gen 10:8-12), and his wife
Daniel (2) - the legendary prophet Daniel of the Babylonian exile; the
second son of David, by Abigail (1 Chr 3:1); or a supporter of Ezra
(Ezr 8:2, Neh 10:6); and his wife
Dalphon [Talbon] - the second of ten sons of the evil Haman, who were
all killed in retribution for Haman's plot against the Jews (Esth
9:7); and his wife
Tarshish [Talsis] - either in the lineage of Benjamin (1 Chr 7:10) or
of Noah (Gen 10:4); and his wife
Teman [Deman] - in Esau's lineage, an Edomite chief (Gen. 36:11, 42).
However, I suspect that Teman may also have been a Midianite chief who
guarded Mt. Sinai, given the association of Sinai and the region of
Teman (Hab 3:3); and his wife
Deborah - great woman Judge, who led the fight against Canaanites (Jdg
5) and her husband
Laban and his wife
Levi - third son of Jacob and Leah, and his wife
Lot [one list spelled this name "Ruth"] - Abraham's nephew, and his wife
Menan - in Jesus' lineage according to Luke's geneology (Luke 3:31),
and his wife
Medad [Medath] - a leader the wilderness. He prophesied along with
Eldad, and when Joshua complained, Moses said, "Would that all God's
people be prophets" (Num 11:26-29); and his wife
Manasseh - wicked king of Judah who repented (2 Kgs 21-22, 2 Chr
33:10-13); and his wife
Mikloth [Migulrot] - a captain in David's army (1 Chr 27:4); or a
Benjaminite, a son of Gibeon (1 Chr 8:32, 9:38); and his wife
Perez [Bereth] - son of Tamar, and his wife
Berechiah - the father of Zechariah the prophet (Zech 1:1); a Levite
the father of Asaph (1 Chr 6:39); a Levite and gatekeeper for the Ark
(1 Chr 9:16); a son of Zerubbabel (1 Chr 3:20); or an Ephraimite chief
(2 Chr. 28:12). Berechiah is also the full name of Jeremiah's scribe
Baruch; and his wife
Baara or Baalah - Baara was a Benjaminite woman wronged by her husband
(1 Chr 8:8). Baalah was a common Israelite woman's name and town name,
but a particular figure of that name is not recorded in the Bible; and
her husband
Pagiel [Bagael] - a leader of tribe of Asher in the wilderness. (Num
1:13, 7:72, 10:26), and his wife
Asa - a king of Judah, and his wife
Abiel - grandfather of Saul (1 Sam 9:1) and Abner (1 Sam 14:51), and his wife
Jonah (2) - a minor prophet; or Peter's father (Matt. 16:17), and his wife
29. Saints, Martyrs and Authors of the New Testament among the "106
Saints" [and other New Testament Era Christian Saints and Martyrs]
Andrew - one of the first of the 12 Apostles, Peter's brother, and
formerly a follower of John the Baptist; and his wife
James [Jacob] - most likely James the son of Zebedee, one of the 12
Apostles. Could also be James the Younger, another of the 12, or even
James the brother of Jesus who led the Jerusalem church; and his wife
Philip - one of the 12 Apostles, and his wife
Bartholomew - one of the 12 Apostles, and his wife
Matthais [Mathias] - successor to Judas Iscariot as last of the 12
Apostles (Acts 1:15-26); and his wife
Thomas - one of the 12 Apostles, portrayed as strong (John 11:16) and
doubting (John 20:24-29), and his wife
Matthew - one of the 12 Apostles, or the anonymous evangelist who
authored the Gospel of Matthew; and his wife
Mark - an early Christian at whose house the Pentecost occurred (Acts
2:1), who sheltered Peter (Acts 12:12), and became a missionary with
Paul and Barnabas (Acts 12:25, 15:36-40); or a companion of Peter in
Rome and author of the Gospel of Mark; and his wife
Paul and his wife
John - John the brother of James and one of the 12 Apostles; or John
the Evangelist; or John of Patmos who wrote Revelation; and his wife
Stephen and his wife
Zacchaeus [Saggeo][blessed with Ok Bong Kim] - a wealthy tax collector
who repented before Jesus and pledged to restore fourfold his
ill-gotten wealth. (Luke 19:1-10); and his wife
Judas Iscariot and his wife
Candace - probably the Ethiopian eunuch, a minister of the Candace
(queen), who was converted by Philip (Acts 8:27); and his wife
Nicodemus - the Pharisee who asked Jesus about rebirth (John 3:1) and
who later embalmed Jesus' body and helped bury him (John 19:39); and
his wife
Nathanael [Nathaniel] - witnessed to by Philip, he confessed that
Jesus was the Son of God (John 1:43-51) and became a disciple. Jesus
appeared to him after his resurrection (John 21:2); and his wife
Thaddeus [Tatheo]- one of the 12 Apostles (Matt 10:3, Mk 3:18), and his wife
Phanuel [Bagael] - father of Anna the prophetess (Luke 2:36), and his wife
Titus - a missionary associate of Paul, and his wife
30. The Christian Saints, Martyrs, and Reformers in Christian History,
since the time of the New Testament, among the "106 Saints" [and other
Christian saints of this period]
St. Augustine who was blessed with Hyun Shil Kang
Polycarp - bishop of Smyrna (69-155) who linked the Apostolic Age with
the 2nd cen. church fathers. His martyrdom was famous; and his wife
Justin Martyr - 2nd cen. theologian and apologist; among the first
theologians who explained Christianity to the pagan world; and his
wife
Origen - 3rd cen. Alexandrian theologian and biblical scholar; one of
the greatest minds in the history of Christian thought; and his wife
Tertullian [Turtulean] - 3rd cen. Latin theologian who developed the
orthodox view of the Trinity; and his wife
Montanus - 2nd cen. heretic, founded a very rigorous apocalyptic
movement and criticized the Catholic church as too lax; and his wife
Constantine - Roman emperor who favored Christianity; and his wife
Athanasius - 4th cen. bishop of Alexandria and church father who
fought against Arianism and defended the orthodox creed; and his wife
Anthony of Egypt - hermit monk who left the solitary life to organize
one of the first monastic communities (d. 356); and his wife
John Chrysostom [John Chrisothrom] - patriarch of Constantinople and
one of the great preachers of the church; popular with the people;
deposed and exiled to a miserable death (d. 407); and his wife
Ambrose - bishop of Milan and a Doctor of the Church, he made
Christianity attractive to the Roman elite. His preaching helped
convert St. Augustine. (339-397); and his wife
Jerome - biblical scholar who translated the Vulgate; noted for his
ascetic life. (342-420); and his wife
Nestorius - 5th cen. monk and patriarch of Constantinople, and his
wife He opposed the excessive worship of Mary. When his Christological
teachings-though probably orthodox-were condemned as heretical, he was
banished. The Nestorian church flourished especially in the East,
sending missionaries to China.
Pope Gregory I, the Great - Greatest pope of the period of church
patriarchs, he labored to spread Christianity throughout Europe. His
writings were influential, laying the foundations of monasticism and
developing the doctrine of purgatory. (540-604); and his wife
Willibrord [Willybroad] - missionary in the 5-6th cen. Worked in what
is now Belgium; considered a minor figure, but laid the foundation for
his successor Boniface; and his wife
Boniface - missionary in German lands (680-754) who organized churches
in Hesse, Thuringia, Bavaria and strengthened the church throughout
Germany; and his wife
Hildebrand (Pope Gregory VII) [Hildebrande] - great medieval reformer
of the church who fought corruption and moral laxity among the clergy
and worked to strengthen Papal power against secular interference.
(1021-1085); and his wife
St. Francis of Assisi and his wife
St. Thomas Aquinas and his wife
John Wycliffe - English reformer, pioneer in translating the Bible into English, and his wife
Martin Luther - central figure of the Reformation, and his wife
John Calvin - central figure of the Reformation, and his wife
Jan Huss [Whitz] - Czech reformer who anticipated Luther, and his wife
Albert Schweizer [Subaicher] - organist and biblical scholar, who
followed Christ to become a medical missionary to Africa (1875-1965),
and his wife
Teresa - Probably Mother Teresa, the contemporary saint who worked
among the poor in India; or Teresa of Avila the Spanish mystic
(1515-1582); or Teresa of Lisieux (1873-1897) and her husband
Martin Luther King, Jr. - United States Civil Rights leader (1929-1968), and his wife
John Wesley - English preacher and founder of the Methodist church
(1703-1791), and his wife
31. Other Faithful, Righteous People in the Spirit World and on Earth who
have supported the True Parents' Work from among the following: Founders
and Saints from among the World's Current Major Religions, including
Zarathustra of Zoroastrianism
Philosophers, Saints and Poets of Hinduism
Gurus and Saints of Sikhism
Mahavira and the Saints of Jainism
Priests, Scholars and Poets of Shinto
Elders and spiritual leaders from the living traditional faiths of
Africa, North America, South America, Asia and the South Pacific
19th and 20th cen. Founders of Religions and their Faithful, including
Baha'u'llah of the Baha'i Faith Joseph Smith of the Church of Jesus
Christ of the Latter Day Saints and all others
32. The Completed Testament Faithful now in Spirit World, particularly the
Earliest Followers of True Father, including:
Sung Mo Nim [Sung Mo means Early Mother] Grandmother Se Hyun Oak
Rev. Hyo Won Eu, Divine Principle lecturer
Mr. Chung Goo "Tiger" Park, CARP leader
Miss Young Oon Kim, Missionary to the United States
Dr. Sang Hun Lee, who wrote Unification Thought
Those brothers and sisters who protected True Parents' lives in the early
days, the founding members of the Unification Church, and all other
faithful Unificationist Brothers and Sisters in Spirit World
33. Faithful Unificationists on Earth, particularly the first three
couples blessed by our True Parents:
Won Pil Kim and his wife, Dal Ok Chung the wife of Hyo Won Eu (who is
in Spirit World), Kit Ja Sa Young Whi Kim and his wife, Dae Hwa Chung
and all other Elder Blessed Couples
International President of the FFWPU, Reverend Sun Jo Hwang and his wife
Continental Directors, National Messiahs, and National Leaders, Assistants
to True Parents, Headquarters Staff, and Business Leaders, Heads of
Outreach Groups, Divine Principle Lecturers and other Educators,
Missionaries, State Leaders, Tribal Messiahs, and City Leaders, Youth
Leaders and Sunday School Teachers, and all other faithful Unificationist
Brothers and Sisters on Earth
IMON
:-)
Josef Oswald
--
so the question remains:
Will our critics here hear from the *final* Judge,
well done
or
*depart* from me you *evil-doer*
???
A fitting line for many of our critics:
=====
One liar can spread more falsehoods than a thousand honest men can correct.
Josef Oswald
>
> "Gordon" <gordonmuir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1142863158....@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Talks/Despres/Despres-Prayer.htm
>> Shin Gin Moon was being prayed for in 1999,wonder why?
>>
>> Gordon Muir.
>>
>>
> Yes, I noticed that the children were prayed for. Notice that Nan Sook
> was NOT prayed for!
The Words of the Despres Family
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Prayer List
Mary Jane Despres
December 27, 1999
Our "Clown" Danny thinks a "private" Prayer-list which was published on a
"private" Web-site is somehow OFFICIAL".
ROTFLWTIME
>
> Also notice that Hyo Jin and his new wifee are included.
>
> CLIP??? 2. Hyo Jin Nim (b. 12/3/62) and Yun Ah Nim (b. ? ) [blessed
> February 5, 1999]
>
> How typical.
>
> Very conditional love.
Yeah this coming from the guy who doesn't mind threatening those whom
he disagrees with, with killing.
Why don't you try to get in touch with Mary Jane who wrote the list?
>
> Danny
Gordon
talking to NOTHING there was no substance,i see praying as a control
> mechanism started a few hundred years ago maybe by constantine to get
> people to follow like sheep and stop them from having any real
> spiritual communication or inlightenment,as soon as i make an effort to
> deal with problems then they get solved,back in the 1980s i tried
> meditation and after 2 weeks i opened up all my spiritual
> senses(chakras)and was able to see and communicate directly with God
> and the spirit world.
>
> Gordon Muir.
>
>
Harlaquinaphobia wrote:
> > "Gordon" <gordonmuir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1142863158....@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > >
http://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Talks/Despres/Despres-Prayer.htm
Harlaquinaphobia
"Josef Oswald" <Ooswal...@yahooO.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.03.20.16.39.50.715688@here_at_home.org...
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:17:12 +0000, Harlaquinaphobia
> wrote:
>>> http://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Talks/Despres/Despres-Prayer.htm
>>> Shin Gin Moon was being prayed for in 1999,wonder why?
>>>
>> Yes, I noticed that the children were prayed for. Notice
>> that Nan Sook
>> was NOT prayed for!
>
> The Words of the Despres Family
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Prayer List
>
> Mary Jane Despres
> December 27, 1999
>
>
> Our "Clown" Danny thinks a "private" Prayer-list which was
> published on a
> "private" Web-site is somehow OFFICIAL".
When ever a MOoniE posts a prayer for all of cyberspace to
see, it is fair game for the peanut gallery.
Danny
>> Very conditional love.
>
> Yeah this coming from the guy who doesn't mind threatening
> those whom
> he disagrees with, with killing.
>
> Why don't you try to get in touch with Mary Jane who wrote
> the list?
>
Because she isn't as fun as dealing with your outrage. You
say coming from a guy who.......blah, and I say coming from
the so called elite race of Heaven on Earth idiots. No
great forgiveness and love in this prayer. Might as well be
beating a drum.
Danny
Josef Oswald
>
> "Josef Oswald" <Ooswal...@yahooO.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.03.20.16.39.50.715688@here_at_home.org...
>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:17:12 +0000, Harlaquinaphobia wrote:
>>>> http://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Talks/Despres/Despres-Prayer.htm
>>>> Shin Gin Moon was being prayed for in 1999,wonder why?
>
>
>>> Yes, I noticed that the children were prayed for. Notice that Nan Sook
>>> was NOT prayed for!
>>
>> The Words of the Despres Family
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Prayer List
>>
>> Mary Jane Despres
>> December 27, 1999
>>
>>
>> Our "Clown" Danny thinks a "private" Prayer-list which was published on
>> a
>> "private" Web-site is somehow OFFICIAL".
>
> When ever a MOoniE posts a prayer for all of cyberspace to see, it is fair
> game for the peanut gallery.
I noticed YOU don't get the point made.
>
> Danny
>
>>> Very conditional love.
>>
>> Yeah this coming from the guy who doesn't mind threatening those whom
>> he disagrees with, with killing.
>>
>> Why don't you try to get in touch with Mary Jane who wrote the list?
>>
>>
> Because she isn't as fun as dealing with your outrage.
Me "OUTRAGED"?
> You say coming from a guy who.......blah, and I say coming from the
> so called elite race of Heaven on Earth idiots. No great
> forgiveness and love in this prayer.
Another point you don't get, it IS NOT a prayer, but a LIST, seems to
me that the times when you last used a "prayer-list" must have been
long time ago, and the memories of it are fading away.
> Might as well be beating a drum.
Better yet search for the post of mine, in which I denied that the
sexual act was not part of the fall.
You guys have a unfair advantage, you can make all kind of unfounded
allegations, but don't need to come up with supporting evidence...
Harlaquinaphobia
"Josef Oswald" <Ooswal...@yahooO.com> wrote in message
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:44:01 +0000, Danny the "CLOWN" AKA
> Harlaquinaphobia wrote:
>
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> Prayer List
>>>
>>> Mary Jane Despres
>>> December 27, 1999
>>
>> to see, it is fair
>> game for the peanut gallery.
>
> I noticed YOU don't get the point made.
And I noticed that you didn't noticed that I got the point!
>>> Yeah this coming from the guy who doesn't mind
>>> threatening those whom
>>> he disagrees with, with killing.
>>>
>>> Why don't you try to get in touch with Mary Jane who
>>> wrote the list?
>>>
>>>
>> Because she isn't as fun as dealing with your outrage.
>
> Me "OUTRAGED"?
Yes, you and your evil twin.
>> You say coming from a guy who.......blah, and I say
>> coming from the
>> so called elite race of Heaven on Earth idiots. No great
>> forgiveness and love in this prayer.
>
> Another point you don't get, it IS NOT a prayer, but a
> LIST, seems to
> me that the times when you last used a "prayer-list" must
> have been
> long time ago, and the memories of it are fading away.
Yes, you are right. It has been so long ago since I used a
prayer list that it reaches infinity. I have never used a
list when I pray. If I choose to pray for someone, I don't
need a list to remind me. I know I am not on a prayer
procedure under the magnifying glass management team.
Then this is even more clear, Nan Sook was left out of her
list, though her children were not. That is very obvious.
I guess you builders of heaven are not so heavenly after
all. Selfless to the point of pure selfishness. In the
many sins that take people to hell, I wonder which sin this
falls under? We shall have to check our reference library,
"Screwtape Letters", by CS Lewis.
>
>> Might as well be beating a drum.
>
> Better yet search for the post of mine, in which I denied
> that the
> sexual act was not part of the fall.
No fun, so that is on a back burner. Nice change of
subjects.
> You guys have a unfair advantage, you can make all kind of
> unfounded
> allegations, but don't need to come up with supporting
> evidence...
You are so bizarre. You have made me look up so much stuff
that I rekindled my love for Christ. I have learned more on
the OT than I ever have and I have learned more about the DP
then I ever knew as a MOoniE. All this because you made me
look up information. So don't feed me this "NO FAIR"
garbage.
Danny
Josef Oswald
on 2006-03-22 stumbled into the light and exclaimed:
>
> "Josef Oswald" <Ooswal...@yahooO.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.03.21.14.11.32.461631@here_at_home.org...
>> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:44:01 +0000, Danny the "CLOWN" AKA
>> Harlaquinaphobia wrote:
>>
>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> Prayer List
>>>>
>>>> Mary Jane Despres
>>>> December 27, 1999
>>>
>>> When ever a MOoniE posts a prayer for all of cyberspace
>>> to see, it is fair
>>> game for the peanut gallery.
>>
>> I noticed YOU don't get the point made.
>
> And I noticed that you didn't noticed that I got the point!
That it was not "Prayer" but a list of people.
>
>>>> Yeah this coming from the guy who doesn't mind
>>>> threatening those whom
>>>> he disagrees with, with killing.
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you try to get in touch with Mary Jane who
>>>> wrote the list?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Because she isn't as fun as dealing with your outrage.
>>
>> Me "OUTRAGED"?
>
> Yes, you and your evil twin.
You're jumping to conclusions.
>
>>> You say coming from a guy who.......blah, and I say
>>> coming from the
>>> so called elite race of Heaven on Earth idiots. No great
>>> forgiveness and love in this prayer.
>>
>> Another point you don't get, it IS NOT a prayer, but a
>> LIST, seems to
>> me that the times when you last used a "prayer-list" must
>> have been
>> long time ago, and the memories of it are fading away.
>
> Yes, you are right. It has been so long ago since I used a
> prayer list that it reaches infinity. I have never used a
> list when I pray. If I choose to pray for someone, I don't
> need a list to remind me. I know I am not on a prayer
> procedure under the magnifying glass management team.
>
> Then this is even more clear, Nan Sook was left out of her
> list, though her children were not. That is very obvious.
Like I said, you should get in touch with the person who wrote the
list. If you have any complaints about take it her, don't bother me
with it.
> I guess you builders of heaven are not so heavenly after
> all. Selfless to the point of pure selfishness. In the
> many sins that take people to hell, I wonder which sin this
> falls under? We shall have to check our reference library,
> "Screwtape Letters", by CS Lewis.
Ahem you forget that I don't believe in eternal hell, so take your
indignation about the failure of one person I have nothing to do with,
and smoke it in your pipe.
>
>>
>>> Might as well be beating a drum.
>>
>> Better yet search for the post of mine, in which I denied
>> that the
>> sexual act was not part of the fall.
>
> No fun, so that is on a back burner. Nice change of
> subjects.
Yes I just wanted to remind you of your silly statements, and as I said
you can't back them up.
>
>> You guys have a unfair advantage, you can make all kind of
>> unfounded
>> allegations, but don't need to come up with supporting
>> evidence...
>
> You are so bizarre. You have made me look up so much stuff
> that I rekindled my love for Christ.
Ah really, such great love for him, that you want to spend time
watching porn with your family on "Christmas".
LOL I'm sure non-believers would do such a thing...
> I have learned more on the OT than I ever have and I have learned
> more about the DP then I ever knew as a MOoniE. All this because
> you made me look up information. So don't feed me this "NO FAIR"
> garbage.
Again you didn't get the point, you toss out all kind of accusations
about me but don't have any evidence.
>
> Danny
>
>
>
>
Josef Oswald
--
so the question remains:
Will our critics here hear from the *final* Judge,
well done
or
*depart* from me you *evil-doer*
???
-
Zuesophobia
"Josef Oswald" <Osw...@SMM-supporter.org> wrote in message
news:slrne22i31...@SMM-support.org...
>>>>> Prayer List
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary Jane Despres
>>>>> December 27, 1999
>>>>
>>>> When ever a MOoniE posts a prayer for all of cyberspace
>>>> to see, it is fair
>>>> game for the peanut gallery.
>>>
>>> I noticed YOU don't get the point made.
>>
>> And I noticed that you didn't noticed that I got the
>> point!
>
> That it was not "Prayer" but a list of people.
Yes, a list of people to be prayed for.
>>>>> Why don't you try to get in touch with Mary Jane who
>>>>> wrote the list?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Because she isn't as fun as dealing with your outrage.
>>>
>>> Me "OUTRAGED"?
>>
>> Yes, you and your evil twin.
>
> You're jumping to conclusions.
Ok, go ahead and tell the world that you never get angry.
What do you do then, get even? You who is so high and
mighty. The founders of Heaven on Earth. The future
generals of all of heaven's armies.
And like I said, it's not as fun as posting it on ARU and
defending our remarks with your points from the new and
improved DP #20.
And showing the world how wonderful, forgiving, and loving
Moonies are. How the foundation of Heaven on Earth is being
built with favoritism, greed, lust, and death.
>> I guess you builders of heaven are not so heavenly after
>> all. Selfless to the point of pure selfishness. In the
>> many sins that take people to hell, I wonder which sin
>> this
>> falls under? We shall have to check our reference
>> library,
>> "Screwtape Letters", by CS Lewis.
>
> Ahem you forget that I don't believe in eternal hell, so
> take your
> indignation about the failure of one person I have nothing
> to do with,
> and smoke it in your pipe.
Moonies typically don't promote smoking. It is such an
awful addiction. You are where, England? Maybe in England
you guys don't read the scientific and health journals about
smoking? Maybe it is just not approved reading by SMM. But
take my word for it, smoking stinks. My pipe has long been
destroyed.
You don't believe in eternal Hell because we don't agree on
the definition.
Like hell is waiting in line at the
Department of Motor Vehicles. My wife's family are Mormons
and they all try to witness to me, over and over again. It
is pointless, I am a
very lost cause. That is hell!
Having been a MOonIE, I am kind of
cautious towards other faiths. Plus I just don't agree with
the Black thing. I believe we all are descendants from
Africa. That your white ass has black DNA buried within it
somewhere.
So once again, a clear definition of hell must first be
established, we
then may have a common ground? Very doubtful but maybe.
>>>> Might as well be beating a drum.
>>>
>>> Better yet search for the post of mine, in which I
>>> denied
>>> that the
>>> sexual act was not part of the fall.
>>
>> No fun, so that is on a back burner. Nice change of
>> subjects.
>
> Yes I just wanted to remind you of your silly statements,
> and as I said
> you can't back them up.
I'll look, but I have been on this road before and when you
are this sure of yourself it means you are probably right,
and I am incorrect. There that saves a lot of time and
money, no not money, we established the truth.
>>> You guys have a unfair advantage, you can make all kind
>>> of
>>> unfounded
>>> allegations, but don't need to come up with supporting
>>> evidence...
>>
>> You are so bizarre. You have made me look up so much
>> stuff
>> that I rekindled my love for Christ.
>
> Ah really, such great love for him, that you want to
> spend time
> watching porn with your family on "Christmas".
>
> LOL I'm sure non-believers would do such a thing...
Is this like your allegations of me watching porn during
Christmas? What was that word you used, "UNFOUNDED
ALLEGATIONS!" Seems you are the one full of them this time?
Christmas is just another day, a family day by tradition,
but another day. I am sure a person who watches porn does
so on any day of their choosing. They don't do their
addiction on specific days or times. Well lets see what I
can post in response?
How about a quote from Kat Moon, "I am worth billions!"
Billions you idiot! No more lying to us and saying that SMM
isn't worth billions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> I have learned more on the OT than I ever have and I have
>> learned
>> more about the DP then I ever knew as a MOoniE. All this
>> because
>> you made me look up information. So don't feed me this
>> "NO FAIR"
>> garbage.
>
> Again you didn't get the point, you toss out all kind of
> accusations
> about me but don't have any evidence.
>
No, we post the evidence, but you deny it's existence. We
get tired of posting the old things over and over again.
Like SMM's sexual adventures, not including his adultery
with the house maids.
Or SMM's senility which is beginning
to peek. Maybe he has Alzheimer's? He has skin cancer
don't you know? He is a criminal and a con, with his
illegal uses of money and causing many members to break
immigration laws. He is such a lousy father, as well as
matching children, not adults, together to have childhood
sex.
Danny
I'm bored!-Kat Moon
Josef Oswald
Danny, the "insane Clown"
apparently felt the deep urge to type the following:
>
> "Josef Oswald" <Osw...@SMM-supporter.org> wrote in message
> news:slrne22i31...@SMM-support.org...
>
>>>>>> Prayer List
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary Jane Despres
>>>>>> December 27, 1999
>>>>>
>>>>> When ever a MOoniE posts a prayer for all of cyberspace to see, it is
>>>>> fair
>>>>> game for the peanut gallery.
>>>>
>>>> I noticed YOU don't get the point made.
>>>
>>> And I noticed that you didn't noticed that I got the point!
>>
>> That it was not "Prayer" but a list of people.
>
> Yes, a list of people to be prayed for.
A list put together by a "specific" person, again if you have any
issues with it, you should take it up with the person.
I am not about to guess her motivations.
>
>>>>>> Why don't you try to get in touch with Mary Jane who wrote the list?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Because she isn't as fun as dealing with your outrage.
>>>>
>>>> Me "OUTRAGED"?
>>>
>>> Yes, you and your evil twin.
>>
>> You're jumping to conclusions.
>
> Ok, go ahead and tell the world that you never get angry. What do you do
> then, get even? You who is so high and mighty. The founders of Heaven on
> Earth. The future generals of all of heaven's armies.
LOL, where does the DP speak about all of that?
>
>>>>> You say coming from a guy who.......blah, and I say coming from the
>>>>> so called elite race of Heaven on Earth idiots. No great
>>>>> forgiveness and love in this prayer.
>>>>
>>>> Another point you don't get, it IS NOT a prayer, but a LIST, seems to
>>>> me that the times when you last used a "prayer-list" must
>>>> have been
>>>> long time ago, and the memories of it are fading away.
>>>
>>> Yes, you are right. It has been so long ago since I used a
>>> prayer list that it reaches infinity. I have never used a
>>> list when I pray. If I choose to pray for someone, I don't
>>> need a list to remind me. I know I am not on a prayer procedure under
>>> the magnifying glass management team.
>>>
>>> Then this is even more clear, Nan Sook was left out of her
>>> list, though her children were not. That is very obvious.
>>
>> Like I said, you should get in touch with the person who wrote the
>> list. If you have any complaints about take it her, don't bother me
>> with it.
>
> And like I said, it's not as fun as posting it on ARU and defending our
> remarks with your points from the new and improved DP #20.
LOL
The only difference between the 1973 and 1996 versions are more
"Bible-verses" relating to the "second coming" of Christ. The theology
hasn't changed one iota.
So what?
And Blacks who are long enough (more then several Generations) in moderate
climate-zones are getting lighter skin. It has all to do with the
"intensity" of the sun, but I'm sure a expert on human skin can educate
you.
>
> So once again, a clear definition of hell must first be established, we
> then may have a common ground? Very doubtful but maybe.
Well why don't you present the UM version of it, after all you were a
member. Unless of course you didn't study the teachings that much.
>
>>>>> Might as well be beating a drum.
>>>>
>>>> Better yet search for the post of mine, in which I denied
>>>> that the
>>>> sexual act was not part of the fall.
>>>
>>> No fun, so that is on a back burner. Nice change of subjects.
>>
>> Yes I just wanted to remind you of your silly statements, and as I said
>> you can't back them up.
>
> I'll look, but I have been on this road before and when you are this sure
> of yourself it means you are probably right, and I am incorrect. There
> that saves a lot of time and money, no not money, we established the
> truth.
The "truth" that I never denied that "sex" was part of the fall of
man? Again if you "REALLY" knew the DP deep enough, you would know
that the "sexual" part came into play.
>
>>>> You guys have a unfair advantage, you can make all kind of
>>>> unfounded
>>>> allegations, but don't need to come up with supporting evidence...
>>>
>>> You are so bizarre. You have made me look up so much stuff
>>> that I rekindled my love for Christ.
>>
>> Ah really, such great love for him, that you want to spend time
>> watching porn with your family on "Christmas".
>>
>> LOL I'm sure non-believers would do such a thing...
>
> Is this like your allegations of me watching porn during Christmas? What
> was that word you used, "UNFOUNDED ALLEGATIONS!"
You made the statement that you gonna do it.
> Seems you are the one full of them this time? Christmas is just
> another day, a family day by tradition, but another day. I am sure
> a person who watches porn does so on any day of their choosing.
> They don't do their addiction on specific days or times. Well lets
> see what I can post in response?
>
> How about a quote from Kat Moon, "I am worth billions!" Billions you
> idiot! No more lying to us and saying that SMM isn't worth
> billions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe she was meaning "Korean Won" ?! 1000 Won is roughly 10 USD
:-)
From where is the quote, you picked it up out of "thin air"?
If "Forbes" had the "goods" on Rev.Moon's "wealth" they would have
included him "EVERY" year in their list. They haven't.
>
>>> I have learned more on the OT than I ever have and I have learned
>>> more about the DP then I ever knew as a MOoniE. All this because
>>> you made me look up information. So don't feed me this "NO FAIR"
>>> garbage.
>>
>> Again you didn't get the point, you toss out all kind of accusations
>> about me but don't have any evidence.
>>
> No, we post the evidence, but you deny it's existence. We get tired of
> posting the old things over and over again. Like SMM's sexual adventures,
> not including his adultery with the house maids.
You couldn't provide the evidence that he had sexual encounters with
"house maids". If you had names you wouldn't tire to name them.
>
> Or SMM's senility which is beginning
> to peek. Maybe he has Alzheimer's? He has skin cancer don't you know?
> He is a criminal and a con, with his illegal uses of money and causing
> many members to break immigration laws. He is such a lousy father, as
> well as matching children, not adults, together to have childhood sex.
Crap, they were not "children" but "minors" the laws of New York
state that with the permission of Parents "minors" can marry. And if
this was indeed against the law, then the "public" official who
conducted the ceremony failed to ascertain the facts.
>
>
> Danny
>
> I'm bored!-Kat Moon
Why should this matter to me?
IMON
:-)
Josef Oswald
--
so the question remains:
Will our critics here hear from the *final* Judge,
well done
or
*depart* from me you *evil-doer*
???
Gordon
church or medium,pssychic and find out from Nansook Hongs son what
happened?
Zuesophobia
broke peasant, I can't help with the cost.
Danny
"Gordon" <gordonmuir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1144228561.3...@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Josef Oswald
Danny, the "insane/mad" Clown"
apparently felt the deep urge to type the following:
> It will cost $1,500 for Dae #2 to tell us. I am a pitiful
> broke peasant, I can't help with the cost.
There is only one "Dae Mo Nim", and no matter what she has to say, you
would disregard it anyway.
Have you prayed for the young man yet Danny?
>
> Danny
>
> "Gordon" <gordonmuir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1144228561.3...@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> Nansook Hong or anyone else interested should go to a
>> spiritualist
>> church or medium,pssychic and find out from Nansook Hongs
>> son what
>> happened?
>>
>>
>> Harlaquinaphobia wrote:
>>> Shin Gil Moon's Passing
<cut old stuff>
Zuesophobia
"Josef Oswald" <Ooswal...@yahooO.com> wrote in message
> On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:06:42 +0000,in
> <6mXZf.1619$wH1.173@trnddc03>
>
>> pitiful
>> broke peasant, I can't help with the cost.
>
> There is only one "Dae Mo Nim", and no matter what she has
> to say, you
> would disregard it anyway.
After seeing the piss queen for free (Dae #0), I would never
mock the second Dae Mo Nim! Heck, I have mocked the dead
false children, SMM, you, Eric, Damian, the man in the moon,
my evil twin what makes you think I would mock DMN #2?
>
> Have you prayed for the young man yet Danny?
Which young man am I suppose to pray for? }^)'
Of course, I prayed for the false family. I am that kind of
Christian, haven't you noticed?
Danny