Lost Integrity
Edmond Wollmann
It doesn't interest me what you do for a living.
I want to know what you ache for,
and if you dare to dream of meeting your heart's longing.
It doesn't interest me how old you are.
I want to know if you will risk looking like a fool for love,
for your dreams, for the adventure of being alive.
It doesn't interest me what planets are squaring your moon.
I want to know if you have touched the center of your own sorrow,
if you have been opened by life's betrayals or
have become shriveled and closed from fear of further pain!
I want to know if you can sit with pain, mine or your own,
without moving to hide it or fade it or fix it.
I want to know if you can be with joy, mine or your own,
if you can dance with wildness and let the ectasy fill you
to the tips of your fingers and toes without cautioning us to be
careful, be realistic, or to remember the limitations of being human.
It doesn't interest me if the story you're telling me is true.
I want to know if you can disappoint another to be true to yourself;
if you can bear the accusation of betrayal and not betray your own
soul. I want to know if you can be faithful and therefore be
trustworthy.
I want to know if you can see beauty even when it is not pretty every
day,
and if you can source your life from God's presence.
I want to know if you can live with failure, yours and mine,
and still stand on the edge of a lake and shout to the silver of the
full
moon, "Yes"!
It doesn't interest me to know where you live or how much money you
have.
I want to know if you can get up after the night of grief and despair,
weary and bruised to the bone, and do what needs to be done for the
children.
It doesn't interest me who you are, how you came to be here.
I want to know if you will stand in the center of the fire with me
and not shrink back.
It doesn't interest me where or what or with whom you have studied.
I want to know what sustains you from the inside when all else falls
away.
I want to know if you can be alone with yourself,
and if you truly like the company you keep in the empty moments.
By Oriah Mountain Dreamer (an Indian Elder)
" How can you buy or sell the sky-the warmth of the land? The idea is
strange to us. We do not own the freshness of the air or the sparkle of
the water. How can you buy them from us? . . We know that the white man
does not understand our way. One portion of the land is the same to him
as the next, for he is a stranger who comes in the night and takes from
the land whatever he needs. The earth is not his brother but his enemy,
and when he has conquered it, he moves on. He leaves his fathers'
graves, and his children's birthright is forgotten. . . There is no
quiet place in the white man's cities. No place to hear the leaves of
spring or the rustle of insect's wings. But perhaps because I am a
savage and do not understand, the clatter only seems to insult the ears.
And what is there to life if a man cannot hear the lovely cry of a
whippoorwill or the arguments of the frogs around a pond at night? The
Indian prefers the soft sound of the wind darting over the face of the
pond, and the smell of the wind itself cleansed by a midday rain, or
scented with a pinon pine. The air is precious to the red man. For all
things share the same breath the beasts, the trees, the man. The white
man does not seem to notice the air he breaches. Like a man dying for
many days, he is numb to the stench. . .When the last red man has
vanished from the earth, and the memory is only the shadow of a cloud
moving across the prairie, these shores and forests will still hold the
spirits of my people, for they love this earth as the newborn loves its
mother's heartbeat. . . One thing we know-our God is the same. This
earth is precious to Him. Even the white man cannot be exempt from the
common destiny. Sealth, a Duwamish chief, 1865."
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A. remove-to mail me
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Dinell Chartoff
You certainly lost any chance of having some after you killed that young
boy!
Julie Grissom
regardless of personal opinions about your intent or morality posted by
anyone, i wish to thank you for sharing The Invitation. It was wonderful
and I had not come across it before. I'm glad you shared it to
alt.religion.shamanism.
elfie
Spåmster
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> The Invitation
>
>
So, where did you lose your integrity?
a
Bob Officer <bobof...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 04:38:48 GMT, in alt.astrology, Edmond Wollmann
><arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>By Oriah Mountain Dreamer (an Indian Elder)
>
>
>
>No place on her web page does she claim to be an "indian elder". She
>never even claims to be an indian, or Native American. BTW, Since she
>is Canadian the proper term would be First Nation, only if this round
>eyed, blue eyed, blond person was a Native American. She says she was
>given the name by elders, but never states which elders. In this sense
>we are all named by our own elders. Most people call them parents.
>
>You are one fucking stupid plagiarist...
http://www.oriahmountaindreamer.com/Books.html
As the poem changed hands a few individuals took it upon themselves
to add or change some words. "Faithless" was changed by some to
"faithful," "beauty" to "God" and-as I later found out-a man in
Chicago, sure that I was an aged or deceased Native American man, put
"Indian elder" after my name. Where possible I made requests for folks
to share the poem as it was written and tried to correct the
misrepresentation of myself as an "Indian elder." Although there are
stories of Native American ancestors in my family history (along with
stories of German and Scottish descent) I am neither old enough nor
wise enough to claim to be an elder of any people.
Does Edmond have enough integrity to correct his errors?
--
"Orion is a star." -- Edmond Wollmann, <36EF1B...@yahooo.com>
Wayne George
The Smiling Crow :-)
(you can call me a canadian,I won't be offended)
~~~~
"Bob Officer" <bobof...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:6tb8qukeddfobfr46...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 04:38:48 GMT, in alt.astrology, Edmond Wollmann
> <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> >By Oriah Mountain Dreamer (an Indian Elder)
>
>
> Edmond, are you stupid or what?
>
> No place on her web page does she claim to be an "indian elder". She
> never even claims to be an indian, or Native American. BTW, Since she
> is Canadian the proper term would be First Nation, only if this round
> eyed, blue eyed, blond person was a Native American. She says she was
> given the name by elders, but never states which elders. In this sense
> we are all named by our own elders. Most people call them parents.
>
> You are one fucking stupid plagiarist...
>
> --
> Ujosdi
Zev
Debaser
bob the builder
can he fix it?
bob the builder
yes he can
i just smoked some mj with postman pat and his black and white cat.
the black and white cat started going ON and ON about birds, and neat
ways to torture them.
what a character.
Wayne George
The Cat" do the...well,you'll see..
The Smiling Crow :-)
x-pot smoker who lives high on LIFE..ROCKY MOUNTAIN
HIGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Debaser" <scopet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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el...@no.spam
Julie Grissom <elfw...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>regardless of personal opinions about your intent or morality posted by
>anyone, i wish to thank you for sharing The Invitation. It was wonderful
>and I had not come across it before. I'm glad you shared it to
>alt.religion.shamanism.
Edmond Wollmann
> Ed,
> regardless of personal opinions about your intent or morality posted by
My intentions are to share and serve.
> anyone, i wish to thank you for sharing The Invitation. It was wonderful
> and I had not come across it before. I'm glad you shared it to
> alt.religion.shamanism.
Thanks:-) I am happy someone got something from it.
> elfie
"I thank the lord for the people I have found....Turn around and say
good morning to the night. For unless they see the sky, but they can't
and that is why. They know not if its dark outside or light." Elton John
"Mona Lisa's and Madhatters"
--
Spåmster
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> My intentions are to share and serve.
>
Speaking of which, where's my lawsuit, delusionboi?
hugh jeffcoat's psychoanalyst
<arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Julie Grissom wrote:
>
>> Ed,
>
>> regardless of personal opinions about your intent or morality posted by
>
>My intentions are to share and serve.
It is notable that you didn't address the morality issue. Your post
was lifted verbatim from
http://www.orderofthewhitelion.com/Poetryetc@/Dosntintrest.html
without attribution. That's called plagarism, or theft, and displays a
clear lack of integrity and morality. You could at least give credit
to the web site from which you googled your post. Instead, you deleted
the attribution and appended your spammy .sig instead.
It's no wonder that anything you claim about "integrity" is
immediately questioned.
Dee
hugh jeffcoat's psychoanalyst
<arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Julie Grissom wrote:
>
>> Ed,
>
>> regardless of personal opinions about your intent or morality posted by
>
>My intentions are to share and
plagarize
This was copied and blended from http://www.gtrsi.com/seattle.html and
several other web sites without attribution.
Intregrity is something that web-scraping scammers like Edmond
Wollmann know nothing about.
Integrity is a concept alien to them. They're only in it for the
money. Do not be fooled by false claims that they're only "sharing".
Edmond Wollmann, for example, has attempted to attempted to have sex
with his "clients" and has posted private e-mail correspondence with
his "clients" to usenet when they realize that he simply is a modern
day snake oil saleman who is trying to use new age babble for personal
and financial gain.
Please be aware that Edmond and his ilk advertise smarmy web sites
offering for-hire commercial services using material gathered off the
internet, that anyone else with a couple of minutes worth of education
could discover for themselves in a couple of minutes.
Edmond Wollmann
> On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 02:21:02 GMT, Edmond Wollmann
> <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >Julie Grissom wrote:
> >> Ed,
> >> regardless of personal opinions about your intent or morality posted by
> >My intentions are to share and serve.
> It is notable that you didn't address the morality issue. Your post
> was lifted verbatim from
> http://www.orderofthewhitelion.com/Poetryetc@/Dosntintrest.html
Actually, it was sent to me by someone and I have since crashed a hard
drive and could not remember who sent it to me, so again, you are quite
wrong and speculating --as per usual. They did not reference it, so I
had no clue where it came from and I don't have all day everyday to
waste like you do trying to prove people are liars when they are just
not real concerned paranoiaically like you with details that evidence
little else THAN YOUR state of mind.
> without attribution. That's called plagarism, or theft, and displays a
> clear lack of integrity and morality. You could at least give credit
> to the web site from which you googled your post. Instead, you deleted
> the attribution and appended your spammy .sig instead.
No, it's called "the rest of the world is not sick like you and obsessed
with trying to prove everyone is out to cheat something"--which tells us
of you--not us.
> It's no wonder that anything you claim about "integrity" is
> immediately questioned.
No one in real life ever questions my integrity, they instead seek my
advice on ethical concerns because they know I am rock solid and
truthful.
Get your facts straight first, and then you can distort them as much as
you please. (Mark Twain)
Spåmster
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> No one in real life ever questions my integrity, they instead seek my
> advice on ethical concerns because they know I am rock solid and
> truthful.
Which proves you've lost your grip on reality.
Cujo
news:3DA635...@earthlink.net:
> Julie Grissom wrote:
>
>> Ed,
>
>> regardless of personal opinions about your intent or morality posted
>> by
>
> My intentions are to share and serve.
>
How come you never served me that lawsuit like you promised, you
plagiarizing asshole?
--
There wouldn't be as many satisfied ladies around, if I
hadn't ditched them long ago! - Edmo in a moment of candor.
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alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
Winner of the August, 2000 HL&S award. Hail Petitmorte!
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Cujo
> hugh jeffcoat's psychoanalyst wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 02:21:02 GMT, Edmond Wollmann
>> <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> >Julie Grissom wrote:
>
>> >> Ed,
>
>> >> regardless of personal opinions about your intent or morality
>> >> posted by
>
>> >My intentions are to share and serve.
>
>> It is notable that you didn't address the morality issue. Your post
>> was lifted verbatim from
>
>> http://www.orderofthewhitelion.com/Poetryetc@/Dosntintrest.html
>
> Actually, it was sent to me by someone and I have since crashed a hard
> drive and could not remember who sent it to me, so again, you are
> quite wrong and speculating --as per usual.
It's more likely you're lying again, Eddieeeee.
> They did not reference it,
> so I had no clue where it came from and I don't have all day everyday
> to waste like you do trying to prove people are liars when they are
> just not real concerned paranoiaically like you with details that
> evidence little else THAN YOUR state of mind.
Edmo! It's obvious this is someone else's work. All you had to do was
indicate you didn't know who did it. But you didn't do that. Instead you
left people assuming you did it and didn't correct that misapprehension,
you thief. You've been caught plagiarizing before, Edmo. If anything that
should make you more apt to give credit to the original authors.
>> without attribution. That's called plagarism, or theft, and displays
>> a clear lack of integrity and morality. You could at least give
>> credit to the web site from which you googled your post. Instead, you
>> deleted the attribution and appended your spammy .sig instead.
>
> No, it's called "the rest of the world is not sick like you and
> obsessed with trying to prove everyone is out to cheat
> something"--which tells us of you--not us.
You mean like taking someone else's property out of dumpsters for Xmas
presents like you did?
>> It's no wonder that anything you claim about "integrity" is
>> immediately questioned.
>
> No one in real life ever questions my integrity, they instead seek my
> advice on ethical concerns because they know I am rock solid and
> truthful.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1!!! You lied about your degrees for years,
Edmo.
Cujo
> On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:04:40 GMT, in alt.astrology, Edmond Wollmann
> <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>hugh jeffcoat's psychoanalyst wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 02:21:02 GMT, Edmond Wollmann
>>> <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> >Julie Grissom wrote:
>>
>>> >> Ed,
>>
>>> >> regardless of personal opinions about your intent or morality
>>> >> posted by
>>
>>> >My intentions are to share and serve.
>>
>>> It is notable that you didn't address the morality issue. Your post
>>> was lifted verbatim from
>>
>>> http://www.orderofthewhitelion.com/Poetryetc@/Dosntintrest.html
>>
>>Actually, it was sent to me by someone and I have since crashed a hard
>>drive and could not remember who sent it to me, so again, you are
>>quite wrong and speculating --as per usual. They did not reference it,
>>so I had no clue where it came from and I don't have all day everyday
>>to waste like you do trying to prove people are liars when they are
>>just not real concerned paranoiaically like you with details that
>>evidence little else THAN YOUR state of mind.
>
> No, it doesn't matter who sent it to you or if they attributed to
> someone or didn't. You managed to save it, and claim to have
> everything saved on ZipDisks.
Another lie by Eddieee was the lunch invite to a restaurant where he
claimed he would bring a police escort to effect a citizens arrest. He
also claimed he had an arrest warrant on the person he believed was my
fellow lunchmate. He then tried to claim the PF Chang's was closed down.
It was right around the corner from his former rathole and down the
street from my office, so that was another lie. Edmo has no integrity.
No to mention his outright plagiarism of Bernadette Brady, his use of
materials without the permission of the authors. In one case an author
doesn't even want him quoting him but Ed does it anyway.
[flush]
Rev. Fredric L. Rice
>Julie Grissom wrote:
>> Ed,
>> regardless of personal opinions about your intent or morality posted by
>My intentions are to share and serve.
Which evidences you absolutely insane.
--
Why did the Scientologist cross the road? - mimus
To slug Bob Minton. - Shydavid (See http://www.BobMinton.ORG/
"Rosen probably defames Keith in his sleep." -- Ms. Lucas
Golitely
> Ed! You never even HAD integrity!
I've seen this before visiting various n/gs, these petulent shadows
that follow Edmond Wollmann around, with their unkind words... utterly
pathetic, without any redeeming quality. And now this.
>
> You certainly lost any chance of having some after you killed that young
> boy!
Apparently true? - To bring up a person's worst moment in their lives
and hold it over their head, to speak as if it 'defined' their
existence or their worth or integrity in anyway, to mock them with it,
to apparently enjoy doing so... and to follow them around the internet
for *years* ... I say... WAKE UP... DON'T BE A FOOL ALL YOUR LIFE,
SHOW A LITTLE AWARENESS... AND SOME RESPECT FOR PEOPLE... GET A
LIFE... cause right now on these n/gs you're living out some drab,
empty, unfulfilling side of yourself... use your time doing just about
*anything* other than THIS. - Take my advice. It will be good for you.
-
And to the other people who spend their time following Mr Wollman
around being a nuisance... get a clue, WAKE UP.
Spåmster
Golitely wrote:
> Dinell Chartoff <d...@havanagil.org> wrote
>
> > Ed! You never even HAD integrity!
>
> I've seen this before visiting various n/gs, these petulent shadows
> that follow Edmond Wollmann around, with their unkind words... utterly
> pathetic, without any redeeming quality. And now this.
>
Yawn.
Eve
>Dinell Chartoff <d...@havanagil.org> wrote
>
>> Ed! You never even HAD integrity!
>
>I've seen this before visiting various n/gs, these petulent shadows
>that follow Edmond Wollmann around,
Actually, there's no following around involved, doofus.
>with their unkind words... utterly
>pathetic, without any redeeming quality. And now this.
>
>>
>> You certainly lost any chance of having some after you killed that young
>> boy!
>
>Apparently true? - To bring up a person's worst moment in their lives
>and hold it over their head, to speak as if it 'defined' their
>existence or their worth or integrity in anyway, to mock them with it,
Actually, it does seem to be a defining moment of his existence for
the simple fact that his denial of his guilt in bringing about the
death of this young man has him completely ham-strung.
Do you think someone should drive a stick-shift car while they have
their gear changing arm in a cast?
Do you agree that denial can eat you up from inside?
>to apparently enjoy doing so... and to follow them around the internet
>for *years* ...
Yes, some people are dedicated to preventing anyone else being
swindled by this remoreseless fraudster.
> I say... WAKE UP... DON'T BE A FOOL ALL YOUR LIFE,
>SHOW A LITTLE AWARENESS... AND SOME RESPECT FOR PEOPLE... GET A
>LIFE... cause right now on these n/gs you're living out some drab,
>empty, unfulfilling side of yourself... use your time doing just about
>*anything* other than THIS. - Take my advice. It will be good for you.
Your advice is puerile and worthless. It was a waste of your time to
type it.
>And to the other people who spend their time following Mr Wollman
>around being a nuisance... get a clue, WAKE UP.
Looks like you're the one who needs cluing up.
Freddy
> Dinell Chartoff <d...@havanagil.org> wrote
>
>
>>Ed! You never even HAD integrity!
>
>
> I've seen this before vi
Shut up and stop defending a client-raping, child-killing, lying,
selfish, fraudulent scumbag.
Edmond Wollmann
"And those men who are inventors and interpreters between Nature and
man, as compared with boasters and declaimers of the works of others,
must be regarded and not otherwise esteemed than as the object in front
of a mirror, when compared with its image seen in the mirror. For the
first is something in itself, and the other nothingness -- Folks little
indebted to Nature, since it is only by chance that they wear the human
form and without it I might class them with the herd of beasts."
Leonardo Da Vinci
Edmond Wollmann
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1!!! You lied about your degrees for years,
> Edmo.
I have never lied about anything on usenet.
"The most beautiful and most profound emotion we can experience is the
sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to
whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt
in awe, is as good as dead. To know what is impenetrable to us really
exists, manifesting itself as highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty
which our dull falculties can comprehend only in their most primitive
forms-this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true
religiousness."
Albert Einstein
ba...@dmcom.net
<followips set, this does not involve ontopic discussion for a.p or
a.r.s I have doubts about being on topic in the others>
>
> I have never lied about anything on usenet.
A bold statement and perhaps true,
though it is hard for any to prove.
--
news:alt.pagan FAQ at http://www.dmcom.net/bard/altpag.txt
news:alt.religion.wicca FAQ at http://www.dmcom.net/bard/arwfaq2.txt
news:news.groups FAQ at http://www.dmcom.net/bard/ngfaq.txt
Want a new group FAQs http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/ncreate.html
Freddy
> Cujo wrote:
>
>
>>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1!!! You lied about your degrees for years,
>>Edmo.
>
>
> I have never lied about anything on usenet.
Wrong, you lying asshole!
"I don't pay attention to spam bots"- Ed Wollmann, liar.
"I am answering the spambot." -Ed Wollmann.
See?
Freddy
Yep. Just like the man said, Edmo. You've lost your grip on reality.
Spåmster
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
Continued lack of original thought noted.
Spåmster
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> Cujo wrote:
>
> > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1!!! You lied about your degrees for years,
> > Edmo.
>
> I have never lied about anything on usenet.
>
Really? Then where's my lawsuit, delusionboi?
el...@no.spam
Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I have never lied about anything on usenet.
Bullshit, Wollmann.
DrPostman
Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>I have never lied about anything on usenet.
Except for this one you just told.
--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors of afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
You can email me at: jamie_eckles(at)hotmail.com
"my head is blank."
- Ed Conrad finally gets honest
Golitely
(Golitely) wrote:
Dinell Chartoff wrote
> >> Ed! You never even HAD integrity!
> >
> >I've seen this before visiting various n/gs, these petulent shadows
> >that follow Edmond Wollmann around,
>
> Actually, there's no following around involved, doofus.
I take it that by this statement you are claiming you are fully aware
of this matter, as far as everyone who regularly posts negative
replies to Mr Wollman's comments, the differing aliases they might
use, the who, where, when and for how long. If you are so nearly fully
aware of the situation then you've invested a lot of time and energy
keeping up with it all... what a waste... if not, then you don't know
of what you say. Which unflattering image of yourself is truer?
...
> >... To bring up a person's worst moment in their lives
> >and hold it over their head, to speak as if it 'defined' their
> >existence or their worth or integrity in anyway, to mock them with it,
>
> Actually, it does seem to be a defining moment of his existence for
> the simple fact that his denial of his guilt in bringing about the
> death of this young man has him completely ham-strung.
This sounds like you know him personally, and not only that but his
inner thoughts and feelings as well... I doubt you know him, (your
words, 'it does *seem*), but at any rate your attempt to justify those
that badger him (yourself included?) has led you to these exaggerated
statements ...I'm glad to point out your dishonesty. Live with it, or
adapt.
> Do you think someone should drive a stick-shift car while they have
> their gear changing arm in a cast?
I think that if Mr Wollman held a philosophy similar to yours, and
certain of his n/g 'shadows', you, and they, would look differently on
this event from, apparently, several years ago. But to use it to
attack and badger him is wrong in any case. You know that is true.
Don't defend it. Speak against it. Stand for principle, not some
blinkered 'war'.
> Do you agree that denial can eat you up from inside?
I'm thinking you would like that to be true in this case. Am I wrong?
> >to apparently enjoy doing so... and to follow them around the internet
> >for *years* ...
>
> Yes, some people are dedicated to preventing anyone else being
> swindled by this remoreseless fraudster.
'Remorseless'? You are in no position to say. This thread was meant to
be about integrity. Show a little and stick to facts you know to be
true. As for people trying to protect others from being swindled...
most everything of what I read, this thread just the most recent
example, has little to do with such a supposed high purpose... it is
childish, insipid namecalling, post after post of it.
>
> > I say... WAKE UP... DON'T BE A FOOL ALL YOUR LIFE,
> >SHOW A LITTLE AWARENESS... AND SOME RESPECT FOR PEOPLE... GET A
> >LIFE... cause right now on these n/gs you're living out some drab,
> >empty, unfulfilling side of yourself... use your time doing just about
> >*anything* other than THIS. - Take my advice. It will be good for you.
>
> Your advice is puerile and worthless. It was a waste of your time to
> type it.
To spend 10 minutes to try to get a few people to look at themselves,
to see the childish way they're conducting themselves, is time well
spent. ...So now I've spent 30 minutes more, and what I say is WAKE UP
people. Live out a side of yourself that has some potential for
growth, stop revelling in this shallow, unfulfilling game that just
wastes your time.
Golitely
Golitely
> Golitely wrote:
> > I've seen this before vi
>
>
> Shut up and stop defending a client-raping, child-killing, lying,
> selfish, fraudulent scumbag.
I'm not so much defending anyone as confronting the undefendable
assault on someone who, at some point in their past, apparently used
bad judgement that led to someone's dying. Seeing this unfortunate
mistake being used as JUST ONE MORE LINE OF ATTACK in a blinkered
little war between people of differing ideologies made me mad, so I
responded. That you see it as 'defending' shows that you too may be
caught up in the same silly game. I was also confronting the game
itself. Look at the words you so carelessly use. Are you really that
immature and/or unaware and/or uncaring? I think it unlikely, really.
Edmond Wollmann
NONE of these harassers know me--at all. They are simply usenet abusers
who have lost accounts, arguments, and all manner of attempts to control
me and the groups I frequent. They have lost this by my complaints
RIGHTFULLY for their abuse, and believe they are on some imbecilic
mission to save other abusers from the fate they will eventually, and
likewise also suffer. Hence they seek to spin me in ways they believe
will "cause me difficulty". They have tried VICIOUSLY to censor me off
usenet.
Despite their assertions to the contrary, I have this account and my
original AOL account, and have had them since 1995.
My business licenses are current. My book is almost completely sold out
and a new edition almost complete.
I was on the Dean's list in the school of sciences at SDSU.
I have no criminal records (other than a tresspassing charge for riding
a small motorcycle within the 50 ft parameter of a railrod track.)
I maintain the privacy of my 25 years of clients, and have a whole wall
in my home of awards, recognitions by state, local and federal
governments for my writing, government work, artwork and on and on.....
I had an auto accident as a teen wherein my best friend was killed. I
cannot change that past. I swam underwater with a cast on my arm at 12
midnight in raging murky water for hours trying to retrieve him from the
crash--with no help by onlookers. I did what I could.
But these abusers have--BY CHOICE-- destroyed every constructive
discussion on usenet for 7 years now, and almost completely killed any
semblance of goodwill between --what used to be-- a friendly and
interesting community full of lively and interesting discussion.
My book is about taking responsibility for ones reality, and so, I tell
the truth no matter how ugly or private-- they have become a useful tool
for me to demonstrate that negativity never pays any divindends, and
that a positive person will remain vigilant and constructive, and can
overcome all odds of "failure"-- despite the raging negativity of
others.
"To see what is right and not to do it, is want of courage." Confucious
"A wise and good man can suffer no disgrace." Fabius Maximus
"The best known evil is the most tolerable." Livy
"Fear is the parent of cruelty." James Anthony Froude
"Whom they fear they hate." Quintus Ennius "Thyestes"
--
Spåmster
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> http://astroconJOB.com/FAQs/essays_2.htm#how
>
> NONE of these harassers know me--at all. They are simply usenet abusers
> who have lost accounts, arguments, and all manner of attempts to control
> me and the groups I frequent.
Kindly post proof of even one lost account and/or argument, delusionboi.
Cujo
> Spåmster wrote:
>
>> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
>> > No one in real life ever questions my integrity, they instead seek
>> > my advice on ethical concerns because they know I am rock solid and
>> > truthful.
>
>> Which proves you've lost your grip on reality.
>
> "And those men who are inventors[slap]
As opposed to plagiarists like yourself.
Cujo
@earthlink.net:
> Cujo wrote:
>
>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1!!! You lied about your degrees for years,
>> Edmo.
>
> I have never lied about anything on usenet.
No, you've lied about *everything*, fuckwad. How is that castle and
airstrip coming along?
Cujo
> http://astrocons.com/FAQs/kkokyedmo.htm <- De-Kookified!!!1!!!!
>
> NONE of these harassers know me--at all.
Edmo! We know about all the abuses, crimes and swindles you've tried.
That's more than enough.
> They are simply usenet
> abusers who have lost accounts,
Name them, Edmo. You can't.
> arguments, and all manner of attempts
> to control me and the groups I frequent.
Responding to your delusional lies is not trying to control you,
fuckhead.
> They have lost this by my
> complaints RIGHTFULLY for their abuse, and believe they are on some
> imbecilic mission to save other abusers from the fate they will
> eventually, and likewise also suffer. Hence they seek to spin me in
> ways they believe will "cause me difficulty". They have tried
> VICIOUSLY to censor me off usenet.
Trolling for support you will never get! See www.smbtech.com/ed for more
on this asshole.
> Despite their assertions to the contrary, I have this account and my
> original AOL account, and have had them since 1995.
Liar.
> My business licenses are current. My book is almost completely sold
> out and a new edition almost complete.
You said this last February.
> I was on the Dean's list in the school of sciences at SDSU.
Prove it. The only list SDSU seems to have on you is a file a "mile
long" on your abuses.
> I have no criminal records (other than a tresspassing charge for
> riding a small motorcycle within the 50 ft parameter of a railrod
> track.)
Which got you probation, convict.
> I maintain the privacy of my 25 years of clients, and have a
> whole wall in my home of awards, recognitions by state, local and
> federal governments for my writing, government work, artwork and on
> and on..... I had an auto accident as a teen wherein my best friend
> was killed. I cannot change that past. I swam underwater with a cast
> on my arm at 12 midnight in raging murky water for hours trying to
> retrieve him from the crash--with no help by onlookers. I did what I
> could.
Ed, the cast would have fallen off. Keep lying, kook. There were
onlookers? Witnesses? Then why have you never brought this up before?
You're lying again.
> But these abusers have--BY CHOICE-- destroyed every constructive
> discussion on usenet for 7 years now, and almost completely killed any
> semblance of goodwill between --what used to be-- a friendly and
> interesting community full of lively and interesting discussion.
No, you did all that. There's two moderated astrology groups that you
aren't allowed to post to, they did that to get away from you and your
spurious whines.
> My book is about taking responsibility for ones reality,
No, it's a creepy book that purports to tell "facts" and then claims that
if the facts don't work for the person not to use them. It's an
incoherent mess and a real piece of shit so bad that you made up a number
of the reviews on Amazon and censored the ones that you didn't like.
> and so, I
> tell the truth no matter how ugly or private--
Including posting private email that you edited.
> they have become a
> useful tool for me to demonstrate that negativity never pays any
> divindends, and that a positive person will remain vigilant and
> constructive, and can overcome all odds of "failure"-- despite the
> raging negativity of others.
You are a testament to those words. You lie and have nothing. You are the
ALL THAT FAILS.
Freddy
> Eve <he...@use.net> wrote
> (Golitely) wrote:
> Dinell Chartoff wrote
>
>>>>Ed! You never even HAD integrity!
>>>
>>>I've seen this before visiting various n/gs, these petulent shadows
>>>that follow Edmond Wollmann around,
>>
>>Actually, there's no following around involved, doofus.
>
>
> I take it that by this statement you are claiming you are fully aware
> of this matter, as far as everyone who regularly posts negative
> replies to Mr Wollman's comments, the differing aliases they might
> use, the who, where, when and for how long. If you are so nearly fully
> aware of the situation then you've invested a lot of time and energy
> keeping up with it all... what a waste... if not, then you don't know
> of what you say. Which unflattering image of yourself is truer?
You may as well ask and answer the same question of yourself, stupid.
Yawn.
So how long have you been fucking him, and how long did he whine for you
to go on Usenet and defend him?
Freddy
> Freddy <fre...@freddy.fredfred> wrote
>
>
>>Golitely wrote:
>
>
>>>I've seen this before vi
>>
>>
>>Shut up and stop defending a client-raping, child-killing, lying,
>>selfish, fraudulent scumbag.
>
>
> I'm not so much defending anyone as confronting the undefendable
> assault on someone who, at some point in their past, apparently used
> bad judgement that led to someone's dying.
Yep. I think he should pay the Ultimate Penalty and be executed. An eye
for an eye, and a Death for a Death.
Instead, he gets verbally jabbed on Usenet. And you call the punishment
unjust?
WHat should we do with the Maryland Sniper? Send him to Anger Management
classes and read him poetry?
>Seeing this unfortunate
> mistake
But Ed himself has said there are no accidents. That everything we do we
CHOOSE to do on some level. That means he made a choice to kill his best
friend. No mistake. No accident. Just a deliberate killing of a child
that he has BRAGGED about.
>being used as JUST ONE MORE LINE OF ATTACK
Ooh, and it's one of the most effective. A man so evil that his tendency
to use the wrong judgement in *every situation* has killed another human
being...and then never shown the tinest amount of remorse.
>in a blinkered
> little war between people of differing ideologies made me mad, so I
> responded.
In a blinkered, stupid way.
> That you see it as 'defending' shows that you too may be
> caught up in the same silly game. I was also confronting the game
> itself. Look at the words you so carelessly use. Are you really that
> immature and/or unaware and/or uncaring? I think it unlikely, really.
I do care, immensely, about any of Ed Wollmann's future victims.
If a convicted and freed child molester lived in your neighborhood and
you had a young daughter or son, would you want to know if a predator
lived nearby?
el...@no.spam
Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>NONE of these harassers know me--at all.
See http://www.smbtech.com/ed/ for some of the things we know
about Mr. Wollmann and how he harasses people on the net.
We know your actions and that is all that matters. Your actions
have made you a liar, a plagiarist, an asshole, a crybaby, and
a convicted criminal. You are too be laughed at on the net and
avoided in real life.
Edmo, you wouldn't have any problems with "harassers" if you
could just figure out that you cannot control usenet. In other
words all you have to do is grow up and act like an adult instead
of acting like an obsessed kook. Face the reality that your
"ideas" are crap and mostly stolen anyway. You have nothing to
contribute which is why you cannot defend your posts.
Care to explain what happened with your graduation from SDSU?
DrPostman
in accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us
of their wisdom with:
>http://astroconsulting.com/FAQs/essays_2.htm#how
>
>NONE of these harassers know me--at all. They are simply usenet abusers
>who have lost accounts, arguments, and all manner of attempts to control
>me and the groups I frequent. They have lost this by my complaints
>RIGHTFULLY for their abuse, and believe they are on some imbecilic
>mission to save other abusers from the fate they will eventually, and
>likewise also suffer. Hence they seek to spin me in ways they believe
>will "cause me difficulty". They have tried VICIOUSLY to censor me off
>usenet.
Why did you create this reality of yours, Ed?
Jeffrey Jupiter
>
>NONE of these harassers know me--at all. They are simply usenet abusers
>who have lost accounts, arguments, and all manner of attempts to control
>me and the groups I frequent. They have lost this by my complaints
>RIGHTFULLY for their abuse, and believe they are on some imbecilic
>mission to save other abusers from the fate they will eventually, and
>likewise also suffer. Hence they seek to spin me in ways they believe
>will "cause me difficulty". They have tried VICIOUSLY to censor me off
>usenet.
>Despite their assertions to the contrary, I have this account and my
>original AOL account, and have had them since 1995.
>My business licenses are current. My book is almost completely sold out
>and a new edition almost complete.
>I was on the Dean's list in the school of sciences at SDSU.
>I have no criminal records (other than a tresspassing charge for riding
>a small motorcycle within the 50 ft parameter of a railrod track.)
You should be locked up for running a scam.
Snip remaining half-truths and attempted self-puffery.
Eve
>Eve <he...@use.net> wrote
>(Golitely) wrote:
>Dinell Chartoff wrote
>> >
>> >> Ed! You never even HAD integrity!
>> >
>> >I've seen this before visiting various n/gs, these petulent shadows
>> >that follow Edmond Wollmann around,
>>
>> Actually, there's no following around involved, doofus.
>
>I take it that by this statement you are claiming you are fully aware
>of this matter, as far as everyone who regularly posts negative
>replies to Mr Wollman's comments, the differing aliases they might
>use, the who, where, when and for how long. If you are so nearly fully
>aware of the situation then you've invested a lot of time and energy
>keeping up with it all... what a waste... if not, then you don't know
>of what you say. Which unflattering image of yourself is truer?
Neither. It is your ignorance that is at fault here.
>> >... To bring up a person's worst moment in their lives
>> >and hold it over their head, to speak as if it 'defined' their
>> >existence or their worth or integrity in anyway, to mock them with it,
>>
>> Actually, it does seem to be a defining moment of his existence for
>> the simple fact that his denial of his guilt in bringing about the
>> death of this young man has him completely ham-strung.
>
>This sounds like you know him personally, and not only that but his
>inner thoughts and feelings as well... I doubt you know him, (your
>words, 'it does *seem*), but at any rate your attempt to justify those
>that badger him (yourself included?) has led you to these exaggerated
>statements ...I'm glad to point out your dishonesty. Live with it, or
>adapt.
You made a mistake when you presumed that I was attempting to justify
anything. Live with it or adapt!
Hint #1: there are very predictable patterns of behaviour resultant
from particular circumstances.
Hint #2: Edmo has spewed forth shitloads of his thoughts and feelings.
>> Do you think someone should drive a stick-shift car while they have
>> their gear changing arm in a cast?
>
>I think that if Mr Wollman held a philosophy similar to yours, and
>certain of his n/g 'shadows', you, and they, would look differently on
>this event from, apparently, several years ago. But to use it to
>attack and badger him is wrong in any case. You know that is true.
>Don't defend it. Speak against it. Stand for principle, not some
>blinkered 'war'.
You take off your blinkers first!
>> Do you agree that denial can eat you up from inside?
>
>I'm thinking you would like that to be true in this case. Am I wrong?
Of course, that's all you've ever been since you jumped in at the deep
end.
>> >to apparently enjoy doing so... and to follow them around the internet
>> >for *years* ...
>>
>> Yes, some people are dedicated to preventing anyone else being
>> swindled by this remoreseless fraudster.
>
>'Remorseless'? You are in no position to say. This thread was meant to
>be about integrity. Show a little and stick to facts you know to be
>true. As for people trying to protect others from being swindled...
>most everything of what I read, this thread just the most recent
>example, has little to do with such a supposed high purpose... it is
>childish, insipid namecalling, post after post of it.
I refuse to discuss integrity with someone who has a history like
Wollmann has. You are just as worthless if you refuse to learn the
facts of the situation.
>> > I say... WAKE UP... DON'T BE A FOOL ALL YOUR LIFE,
>> >SHOW A LITTLE AWARENESS... AND SOME RESPECT FOR PEOPLE... GET A
>> >LIFE... cause right now on these n/gs you're living out some drab,
>> >empty, unfulfilling side of yourself... use your time doing just about
>> >*anything* other than THIS. - Take my advice. It will be good for you.
>>
>> Your advice is puerile and worthless. It was a waste of your time to
>> type it.
>
>To spend 10 minutes to try to get a few people to look at themselves,
>to see the childish way they're conducting themselves, is time well
>spent. ...So now I've spent 30 minutes more, and what I say is WAKE UP
>people. Live out a side of yourself that has some potential for
>growth, stop revelling in this shallow, unfulfilling game that just
>wastes your time.
Another 30 minutes wasted, then. I don't listen to ignorant, pompous
preachers.
HTH!
Golitely
> >I think that if Mr Wollman held a philosophy similar to yours, and
> >certain of his n/g 'shadows', you, and they, would look differently on
> >this event from, apparently, several years ago. But to use it to
> >attack and badger him is wrong in any case. You know that is true.
> >Don't defend it. Speak against it. Stand for principle, not some
> >blinkered 'war'.
>
> You take off your blinkers first!
>
> >> Do you agree that denial can eat you up from inside?
> >
> >I'm thinking you would like that to be true in this case. Am I wrong?
>
> Of course,
Good!! Then I'll only say again... Don't defend it. Speak against it.
Stand for principle, not some blinkered 'war'.
Yer Herby Gergly
Quit defending a remorseless child killer.
>
el...@no.spam
Boo Phatty <boo@phatty> wrote:
>>NONE of these harassers know me--at all.
>I'm new here and all I know is that you are a dumpster diving,
>negligent homicide, phony baloney astrologer.
You don't know that he's a smeghead? He's also a liar and he doesn't
pay his debts.
Edmond Wollmann
C...@altopia.net the harassing and out of integrity spammer who is
addicted to ego-placing the power outside of the self wrote:
> Golitely writes:
> >Eve wrote
> >> Of course,
> Apologies for this second post, but it seemed appropriate to review
> some history here... just to get a little perspective on an old
> 'conversation'- to try and understand, as it were, *exactly* what it
> is that provokes such response.
> [This post was yet another high mark in Mr. Wollmann's reputation
> Usenet-wide. The group was indeed reduced to atomic rubble.]
Incorrect, abuser. The only thing that was reduced to rubble was your
credibility, the facade that you and others were "workers of light" and
the spammers and abusers own life paths and constructive contribution to
life on this planet.
I have suffered not. I trust that what I create I create for a reason, a
positive reason, no matter how it appears to those who cannot see.
Those who hear not the music-
Think the dancers mad.
"We know the whole idea of how we feel in that sense.
We trust ourselves as aspects of the infinite.
Therefore we interact spontaneously, without necessarily having to
"plan" anything, without having to "make sure" everything will go "as
planned,"...
... we do not need the "insurance" of something to "fall back" on should
what we go for "fail."
All of these ideas are doubts and mistrusts of the true
unconditionalness of our love." Bashar, "Southern Exposure"
Spåmster
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> metapsych replaced with NANAU
Nope!
Jeffrey Jupiter
<arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>metapsych replaced with NANAU, abusive groups removed.
Think again.
Then why threaten wasteful and frivolous lawsuits?
>Bashar
is a fraud.
Cujo
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1!!!! Meltdown noted, fuckstick.
> I have suffered not. I trust that what I create I create for a reason,
> a positive reason, no matter how it appears to those who cannot see.
Ed, you've lost over 20 accounts and have no diplomas from SDSU, Kepler
booted you for lying about that and you still try to whine about *others*
being abusers. The writing is on the wall, kook. Read it and accept that
you are one of the most amusing kooks I've ever run across.
> Those who hear not the music-
> Think the dancers mad.
The music I hear is "They're coming to take Ed away, ha ha!" 5150, kook!
Where's my lawsuit, punk?
[screed flushed]
Eve
B-but... you still don't know what you're talking about...
Anyway, I am standing on principle. It's just the wrong one, according
to you. That's ok, eddy says there's no right or wrong anyway.
Eddy believes that his friend chose that death so that eddy would be
fully awakened into his spiritual destiny or some such nonsense.
Do you believe that people choose to experience whatever happens to
them? This includes everyone - children that are brutally raped and
murdered, for instance.
Eve
<arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>http://astroconsulting.com/FAQs/essays_2.htm#how
>
>NONE of these harassers know me--at all.
We know you by your postings to usenet, your website and a few of your
ex-girlfriends, remember?
>They are simply usenet abusers
>who have lost accounts,
Lost accounts? Who did that happen to besides you and Dan?
>arguments,
Lost arguments? You have never won an argument on usenet. Your defeat
is announced when you post mouldy old screed instead of answering
questions about your claims.
>and all manner of attempts to control
>me and the groups I frequent.
We've lost what? Nobody is trying to control you or the groups you
frequent.
>They have lost this by my complaints
>RIGHTFULLY for their abuse,
You're saying that because of your futile and powerless complaints, we
have lost accounts, arguments and control of you and your "frequented"
groups? Why doesn't that mesh with reality?
>and believe they are on some imbecilic
>mission to save other abusers from the fate they will eventually, and
>likewise also suffer.
That was one heck of a sentence but it didn't amount to anything.
The last bit has possibilities: "...edmo believes he is on some
imbecilic mission to save other astrologers from the fate he will
eventually, and likewise also suffer."
It sounds just as clumsy but it somehow fits.
>Hence they seek to spin me in ways they believe
>will "cause me difficulty".
But you're unaffected, that's why you're suing us and you will appeal
- whatever the outcome! I love to see your "philosophy" in action!
WAY TO LOSE, LOSERBOI!!!
>They have tried VICIOUSLY to censor me off
>usenet.
When did that happen?
>Despite their assertions to the contrary, I have this account and my
>original AOL account, and have had them since 1995.
That has been proven to be bullshit numerous times.
>My business licenses are current.
And meaningless for someone who is not qualified to be a counsellor.
>My book is almost completely sold out
>and a new edition almost complete.
How long have we been hearing this now?
>I was on the Dean's list in the school of sciences at SDSU.
How come people who haved looked up the Dean's list there can't find
any record of that claim?
>I have no criminal records (other than a tresspassing charge for riding
>a small motorcycle within the 50 ft parameter of a railrod track.)
You mean: "I have a criminal record from a tresspassing charge for
riding a small motorcycle within the 50 ft parameter of a railrod
track." An honest, emotionally balanced person might add something
like "I was a dang fool for doing that!"
>I maintain the privacy of my 25 years of clients,
Except for when you post private emails from former
clients-cum-lovers.
>and have a whole wall in my home of awards,
Well, you have won a lot of Kook Awards, and rightly so!
>recognitions by state, local and federal
>governments for my writing, government work, artwork and on and on.....
You'd think a confident professional would have scans of these items
on his website to give potential clients reassurance of his integrity
and abilities.
>I had an auto accident as a teen wherein my best friend was killed. I
>cannot change that past. I swam underwater with a cast on my arm at 12
>midnight in raging murky water for hours trying to retrieve him from the
>crash--with no help by onlookers. I did what I could.
No. What you should have done is realised that a person with an arm in
a cast cannot safely drive a manual car. Alas for your poor friend, he
was too stupid (drunk? stoned?) to realise he shouldn't get in the car
with you.
>But these abusers have--BY CHOICE--
Hey, at least we're not all mindless PSF clones! Anyway, you said all
notions are valid, so why shouldn't we disagree with you?
>destroyed every constructive
>discussion on usenet for 7 years now,
Man, I love watching you give your power away! You imbue us with such
great powers, I almost feel embarassed to be fawned upon so.
>and almost completely killed any
>semblance of goodwill between --what used to be-- a friendly and
>interesting community full of lively and interesting discussion.
It is still that, you've just put yourself on the outer.
>My book is about taking responsibility for ones reality, and so, I tell
>the truth no matter how ugly or private--
Ahem... "I maintain the privacy of my 25 years of clients..."
>they have become a useful tool
>for me to demonstrate that negativity never pays any divindends, and
>that a positive person will remain vigilant and constructive, and can
>overcome all odds of "failure"-- despite the raging negativity of
>others.
Your travesty of a book is useful for everyone to see what an
ignorant, pompous, self-serving prick you are, but that's about it.
>"To see what is right and not to do it, is want of courage." Confucious
"To not see what is right, and stubbornly cling to what is wrong when
all around you there are people pointing out your errors, is want of
intelligence." Confucious
>"A wise and good man can suffer no disgrace." Fabius Maximus
"A sociopath can suffer no disgrace." Fabius Maximus
>"The best known evil is the most tolerable." Livy
"The best known evil is the most Edmo can aspire to" Livy
>"Fear is the parent of cruelty." James Anthony Froude
"Edmo is the parent of a child who is much wiser than he."
James Anthony Froude
"It's not them, Dad, it's you!" Nathan Wollmann
>"Whom they fear they hate" Quintus Ennius "Thyestes"
"Whom they are entertained by, they laugh at."
Edmond Wollmann
sciences of dogmatic following that seek control. It reflects the
governmental structure's creation, as the result of domination and
control beliefs (within the populace which agrees to it) and the belief
in the need for protection that feeds this belief.
If you believe in the idea of "domination" it is because you believe in
the unequal power between the co-creators. The Aquarian age is the
recognition of the equal validity and co-creativity of all beings within
creation.
The Release from Orion is the recognition that all beings are valid and
serve in some way, and that no one can "make" anyone do or believe
anything they do not ALLOW themselves to believe.
You have to agree to it. One being can only offer the opportunity and
atmosphere to ALLOW others to choose to change their reality to Orion
light.
We are all a part of a solution, or a part of the problem--unless we act
as unbiased reporters conveying the issues. That requires discernment.
"A symbol that can be utilized that we have shared with many of you to
help you focus on the vibratory plane of Arcturus energy and
consciousness-is a white 12 pointed star, against an orange circle,
against a black background.(Volume One)
Will this be of assistance?"
EW: "Yes, thank you."
EW: "But what about the signature EM1?
Bashar: "It has to do with E-L-E-C-T-R-O-M-A-G-N-E-T-I-C
A-P-P-L-I-C-A-T-I-O-N-S, do you follow me?
EW: "Yes", do you have any information on "Hoova"?
Bashar: Yes" HOOVA MOON MUHTMA, in the ancient tongue translates as
"Hoova is home, a statement of pride as well as control."
EW: "And I am connected to this energy?
Bashar: "Yes, to align yourself with this idea allow minimal
applications of Hematite, are you familiar with this idea?" (Volume 2)
EW: "Yes, thank you."
Bashar: "Will this be of assistance to you?"
EW: "Yes."
March, 1987. "Southern Exposure"
"Though the desert sands may parch my throat,
sting my skin and blind my sight,
still I march with calm resolve,
through the darkness of the night.
For I know that deep beneath this lifeless land,
a mighty river flows,
to quench my thirst and bring relief,
from the painful path I chose."
Kim Carlsberg & Darryl Anka, "Contact Cards", 1996, Bear & Company
Ren S. Timpie
> Orion.
The constellation, or the star, Edtard?
"Orion is a star" -Edmond Wollmann.
Spåmster
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> Orion. Egypt. It is the energy behind the
Screed?
Edmond Wollmann
"The Soul of the nobler nature holds good against its surroundings--it
is more apt to change them than to be changed, so that often it improves
the environment and, where it must make concession, at least keeps its
innocence." Plotinus, The Enneads
Spåmster
Edmond 'Delusional Freak' Wollmann wrote:
> Spåmster the stalking spammer wrote:
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > > Orion. Egypt. It is the energy behind the
>
> > Screed?
>
Flush.
Ren S. Timpie
> Spåmster the stalking spammer wrote:
>
>
>>Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
>
>
>>>Orion. Egypt. It is the energy behind the
>>
>
>
>>Screed?
>
>
> "The Soul of the nobler nature holds good against its surroundings--it
> is more apt to change them than to be changed, so that often it improves
> the environment and, where it must make concession, at least keeps its
> innocence." Plotinus, The Enneads
Translation: Yep, it's screed, alright!
Jeffrey Jupiter
<arctur...@earthlink.net> reposted once again, for the zillionth
time, like a broken record:
>HOOVA
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results." -- Albert Einstein
Jeffrey Jupiter
From the Weekly World News, Edmond Wollmann's primary literary source:
Vancouver, Canada, 1985: Alvina Scott was kidnapped by aliens
who removed samples of her egg cells for study and placed an
implant in her kidneys to heal the diseased organs. Incredibly,
an ultrasound test later showed her kidneys had been miraculously
restored to health.
The aliens, who called themselves the Hoova, initially appeared
human, but Alvina soon learned that they were actually
bulbous-headed gray beings who used "hypnotic projection" to look
like us. She was told they were working on a project to mix human
and alien DNA.
Source: Weekly World News, "THE 10 MOST SPINE-TINGLING SPACE ALIEN
ABDUCTIONS EVER DOCUMENTED!",
http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/aliens_story.cfm?instanceid=10524
This seems just about as plausible as any of Edmond Wollmann's
bizarre, I-N-C-O-H-E-R-E-N-T N-O-N-S-E-N-S-E, do you follow me?
Henry Etikay-Thomas
Yes, that is helpful.
Edmond Wollmann
the period in 1500. Horses were as lavishly accoutred as their noble
riders.
http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
As a part of the training that prepared them for knighthood, boys
learned to hunt with hawks and falcons. (Falcon in upper left).
Under the eyes of admiring ladies, a knight would unhorse his jousting
opponents. Women profoundly affected chivalry. The art of proper and
acceptable behavior at court was a "courtesy". The new ideal of
"courtly love" developed in the minds and hearts of those in the 11th
and 12th centuries.
Come, let us engage.
"A reassuring whisper
gives us strength to carry on;
a little flame that lights our way,
from dusk until dawn.
A steadfast friend,
always near when we feel alone,
gifting us with a guardian
angel all our own." Arcturus Kim Carlsberg & Darryl Anka, Bear &Co.,
1996
ARCTURUS- A star in the constellation Bootes;"the lofty" one, the one
who rules, and the coming one by the Egyptians. This star is the
center of many solar systems and represents the distribution and flow
of information regarding agreements and contracts made by individuals
in the higher state of consciousness. Its energy reflects the idea of
"the gatekeeper" that allows and/or controls the flow of awareness to
this system. The Chalice is the recognition that "The King and the
land are one and the same" (ARTHURIAN philosophy), or "I and the
father are one and the same" (Christian philosophy). ARCTURUS
represents the gatekeeper of the chalice. It is approximately 24
degrees Libra at this time.
ARCTURUS. Bootis. - 23 Libra 7,.
Notes. A golden-yellow star situated on the Left
knee of Bootes. From Arktouros, the Bear Guard.
Also called AArctophilax, the Bear Watcher ; and
Alchameth, Azimech, and other variants of Al Simak,
the Lofty One. According to Bullinger Arcturus
means He Commeth, and was called Smat, One who
rules, and Bau, the Coming One, by the Egyptians.
The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson Bsc,
Samuel Weiser, Ny, Ny, page 139.
Arcturus =known also as Alpha Bootis, an orange first magnitude star,
the brightest in the constellation Bootes. Arcturus is the 6th
brightest star in the sky and is 35 light years from Earth. Its
diameter is 35 times that of the sun and an intrinsic luminosity 80
times that of the sun, Visual Magnitude 0.2, Spectral type K, distance
in light years 35-36.
According to Burnham's Celestial Handbook (Vol I, p 302-3):
Arcturus is the brightest star in the northern sky and 4th brightest
over all. It was "formerly given 6th place, but shown by modern
measurements to outshine both Vega & Capella". Magnitude -0.06,
distance = about 37 LY, diameter = about 25 times greater than the
sun, luminosity = 115 times that of the sun, color = usually described
as topaz or golden yellow, occasionally as orange.
More interesting perhaps -- Arcturus has the largest proper motion
of any 1st magnitude stars with the exception of Alpha Centauri:
90 mps in the direction of Virgo.
"This motion has been bringing the star closer to the Earth ever
since
it first became visible to the naked eye nearly half a million years
ago. At the present time, Arcturus is almost at its minimum distance
[showing] an approaching radial velocity of about 3 miles per second,
which will gradually diminish to zero as the star passes us several
thousand years from now".
It's a population II star, a member of the great spherical halo which
is centered on the galactic hub. "This explains the large apparent
motion, and the rapid passage though our part of the heavens; Arcturus
is moving in a highly inclined orbit around the center of the galaxy,
and is currently cutting through the galactic plane ...".
In response to a query of symbolic meaning to a dream (of EW) of EM1
Arcturus (horoscope), the distance between the bodies of the Sun and
the dark body that traverses our solar system in a very long
trajectory (counterpart nemesis to the sun), and the reflection
represented of the distance between our (perceived) conscious self and
shadow self;
"You can recognize the electromagnetic vibration of Arcturus, to be
the higher vibratory resonance plane that contains both the polarities
of the bright star (sun) and the dark star (nemesis) represented in
your system. And that if you can simply focus on the fundamental
vibrational frequency of the tip of the triangle (Apex) you will then
contain them both, and in containing them both, you can shorten any
distance you perceive between them. For you are looking
down-symbolically-from another plane of existence altogether, when you
look through the eyes of Arcturus.
A symbol that can be utilized that we have shared with many of you to
help you focus on the vibratory plane of Arcturus energy and
consciousness-is a white 12 pointed star, against an orange circle,
against a black background.
Will this be of assistance?"
EW: "Yes, thank you."
EW: "But what about the signature EM1?
Bashar: "It has to do with E-L-E-C-T-R-O-M-A-G-N-E-T-I-C
A-P-P-L-I-C-A-T-I-O-N-S, do you follow me?
EW: "Yes", do you have any information on "Hoova"?
Bashar: Yes" HOOVA MOON MUHTMA, in the ancient tongue translates as
"Hoova is home, a statement of pride as well as control."
EW: "And I am connected to this energy?
Bashar: "Yes, to align yourself with this idea allow minimal
applications of Hematite, are you familiar with this idea?"
EW: "Yes, thank you."
Bashar: "Will this be of assistance to you?"
EW: "Yes."
March, 1987. "Southern Exposure"
http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
Stan Freberg
EW: "But what about the signature EHW?
Bashar: "It has to do with S-C-A-M-M-I-N-G--R-U-B-E-S, do you follow me?
EW: "Yes", do you have any information on "Hoova"?
Bashar: Yes" HOOVA MOON MUHTMA, in the ancient tongue translates as
EW: "And I am connected to this energy?
your stinking mind?"
EW: "Yes, thank you."
Bashar: "Will this be of assistance to you?"
EW: "Yes."
Spámster
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> This drawing
Looks like it was done by a 2-year-old on acid.
Edmond Wollmann
> This drawing is of the arms and armor of a German knight, made about
> the period in 1500. Horses were as lavishly accoutred as their noble
> riders.
> http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
> As a part of the training that prepared them for knighthood, boys
> learned to hunt with hawks and falcons. (Falcon in upper left).
> Under the eyes of admiring ladies, a knight would unhorse his jousting
> opponents. Women profoundly affected chivalry. The art of proper and
> acceptable behavior at court was a "courtesy". The new ideal of
> "courtly love" developed in the minds and hearts of those in the 11th
> and 12th centuries.
It is now time to convey the dream I am.
La Jolla, California, March, 1987...
EW:"Bashar, I had a dream, wherein I saw a computer printed horoscope
that had the name in the left hand corner as "EM1 Arcturus", and that it
was MY horoscope. Then, I saw the Sun, and the dark body Nemesis that
traverses our solar system in very long orbits, and somehow understood
that their two orbits reflected how individuals separated themselves in
this negative and positive way on our planet, and that our experiences
in "distance" from the light and the dark (the Sun relative to Nemesis)
was the same as the "distance" between these two bodies and their orbits
at any given time.
Can you tell me what you see about this dream?
"You can recognize the electromagnetic vibration of Arcturus, to be
the higher vibratory resonance plane that contains both the polarities
of the bright star (sun) and the dark star (nemesis) represented in
your system. And that if you can simply focus on the fundamental
vibrational frequency of the tip of the triangle (Apex) you will then
contain them both, and in containing them both, you can shorten any
distance you perceive between them. For you are looking
down--symbolically--from another plane of existence altogether, when you
look Through The Eyes of Arcturus.
A symbol that can be utilized that we have shared with many of you to
help you focus on the vibratory plane of Arcturus energy and
consciousness-is a white 12 pointed star, against an orange circle,
against a black background.
(hence, my book cover design)
Will this be of assistance?"
EW: "Yes, thank you."
EW: "But what about the signature EM1? What does this mean?
Bashar: "It has to do with E-L-E-C-T-R-O-M-A-G-N-E-T-I-C
A-P-P-L-I-C-A-T-I-O-N-S, do you follow me?
EW: "Yes", do you have any information on "Hoova"?
Bashar: Yes" HOOVA MOON MUHTMA, in the ancient tongue translates as
"Hoova is home, a statement of pride as well as control."
EW: "And I am connected to this energy?
Bashar: "Yes, to align yourself with this idea allow minimal
applications of Hematite, are you familiar with this idea?"
EW: "Yes, thank you."
Bashar: "Will this be of assistance to you?"
EW: "Yes."
March, 1987. "Southern Exposure"
--
Richard Nolle
> In article <3DCD5E...@earthlink.net>, Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> >
> > > This drawing is of the arms and armor of a German knight, made about
> > > the period in 1500. Horses were as lavishly accoutred as their noble
> > > riders.
> >
> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
> >
> > > As a part of the training that prepared them for knighthood, boys
> > > learned to hunt with hawks and falcons. (Falcon in upper left).
> >
> > > Under the eyes of admiring ladies, a knight would unhorse his jousting
> > > opponents. Women profoundly affected chivalry. The art of proper and
> > > acceptable behavior at court was a "courtesy". The new ideal of
> > > "courtly love" developed in the minds and hearts of those in the 11th
> > > and 12th centuries.
> >
> > It is now time to convey the dream I am.
>
> Stop talking to yourself, frootloop.
If only he were talking to himself alone. Alas, he inflicts his self-adulation on various
newsgroups. The self-proclaimed "Lofty One" is in fact a Loony One, a Lowly One widely despised
for his completely groundless hubris: this is what comes of being a legend in one's own mind.
-- Richard
http://www.astropro.com/
NetPager = http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1710868
phone/fax = 480-753-6261
"Astrology is about time . . . what else is there?"
Mr. XXXX
Jeffrey Jupiter
<arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>This drawing is of the arms and armor of a German knight, made
by a child with no artistic ability.
>Bashar: Yes" HOOVA MOON MUHTMA, in the ancient tongue translates as
"Give me your money so I can commit acts of fraud"
Jeffrey Jupiter
<arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Edmond Wollmann wrote:
Self-reply incoherence noted. Spam snipped accordingly.
>
>It is now time to convey the dream I am.
>
And now, something completely insane:
>Bashar: E-L-E-C-T-R-O-M-A-G-N-E-T-I-C
>A-P-P-L-I-C-A-T-I-O-N-S
>Edmo: "Hoova"?
>Bashar: Yes" HOOVA
Jeffrey Jupiter
<st...@stgeorgeandthedragon.net.org> wrote:
>
>EW: "But what about the signature EHW?
>Bashar: "It has to do with S-C-A-M-M-I-N-G--R-U-B-E-S, do you follow me?
>EW: "Yes", do you have any information on "Hoova"?
>Bashar: Yes" HOOVA MOON MUHTMA, in the ancient tongue translates as
>"ED WOLLMANN IS A FUCKING SOCIOPATHIC KOOK."
>EW: "And I am connected to this energy?
>Bashar: "Is Dan Kettler a fraud? Is Tony Sidaway a fag? Are you out of
>your stinking mind?"
Is Hugh Jeffcoat a shriveled-up, decayed and psychotic old queen?
Discerning Bashar-ites want to know!
>EW: "Yes, thank you."
>Bashar: "Will this be of assistance to you?"
>EW: "Yes."
>
>
Edmond Wollmann
to ab...@sprint.net wrote:
> Phoenix wrote:
> > In article <3DCD5E...@earthlink.net>, Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> > > > This drawing is of the arms and armor of a German knight, made about
> > > > the period in 1500. Horses were as lavishly accoutred as their noble
> > > > riders.
> > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
> > > > As a part of the training that prepared them for knighthood, boys
> > > > learned to hunt with hawks and falcons. (Falcon in upper left).
> > > > Under the eyes of admiring ladies, a knight would unhorse his jousting
> > > > opponents. Women profoundly affected chivalry. The art of proper and
> > > > acceptable behavior at court was a "courtesy". The new ideal of
> > > > "courtly love" developed in the minds and hearts of those in the 11th
> > > > and 12th centuries.
> > > It is now time to convey the dream I am.
> > Stop talking to yourself, frootloop.
Why does this bother you so? You talk to yourself when you tag onto my
posts, because I rarely if ever even look at your spam.
> If only he were talking to himself alone. Alas, he inflicts his self-adulation on various
> newsgroups. The self-proclaimed "Lofty One" is in fact a Loony One, a Lowly One widely despised
He, he, he. Not true cowardly one. I am well liked by those who know
me--which cannot be you or the abusers here because you have no clue
about what I am really like having never met me, and no doubt, you would
cower if you met me and hide in the corner.
There is no one with any brains or sincerity to discuss anything with
here any longer now that you losers insist on allowing your inferiority
and intimidation by me run rampant. So I simply post my work and answer
an occasional post that contains real questions.
> for his completely groundless hubris: this is what comes of being a legend in one's own mind.
Unlike you, I know that I am insignificant in the scheme of things, but
yet realize that every person of integrity like myself makes a
difference--even if a small one--and that to see what is right and not
to do it would render me a coward like the lot of you. A fate I will
never embrace.
Learn some psychology, it may help you to see your attacks on me as
others do; telling us far more of you than me. Perhaps then the
embarassment will finally set in for your actions, and you can stop
pretending that you are somehow in the right for being so petty and
transparent. You cannot remove yourself from your analysis, which ends
up simply being humorous and infantile rather than insightful.
Mars in Libra likes to be all things to everyone and ends up being
nothing to anyone.
"The recognition and taking to heart of the subjective determination of
knowledge in general, and of psychological knowledge in particular, are
basic conditions for the scientific and impartial evaluation of a psyche
different from that of the observing subject. These conditions are
fulfilled only when the observer is sufficiently informed about the
nature and scope of his own personality. He can, however, be
sufficiently informed only when he has in large measure freed himself
from the levelling influence of collective opinions and thereby arrived
at a clear conception of his own individuality . . . "The collective
attitude hinders the recognition and evaluation of a psychology
different from the subject's, because the mind that is collectively
oriented is quite incapable of thinking and feeling in any other way
than by projection."
Carl Jung
Jeffrey Jupiter
<arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Richard Nolle wrote:
>
>> Phoenix wrote:
>
>> > In article <3DCD5E...@earthlink.net>, Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> > > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
>> > > > This drawing is of the arms and armor of a German knight, made about
>> > > > the period in 1500. Horses were as lavishly accoutred as their noble
>> > > > riders.
>
>> > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
>
>> > > > As a part of the training that prepared them for knighthood, boys
>> > > > learned to hunt with hawks and falcons. (Falcon in upper left).
>
>> > > > Under the eyes of admiring ladies, a knight would unhorse his jousting
>> > > > opponents. Women profoundly affected chivalry. The art of proper and
>> > > > acceptable behavior at court was a "courtesy". The new ideal of
>> > > > "courtly love" developed in the minds and hearts of those in the 11th
>> > > > and 12th centuries.
>
>> > > It is now time to convey the dream I am.
>
>> > Stop talking to yourself, frootloop.
>
>Why does this bother you so? You talk to yourself when you tag onto my
>posts, because I rarely if ever even look at your spam.
Your posts are all spam, Richard's are not.
>
>> If only he were talking to himself alone. Alas, he inflicts his self-adulation on various
>> newsgroups. The self-proclaimed "Lofty One" is in fact a Loony One, a Lowly One widely despised
>
>He, he, he. Not true cowardly one. I am well liked by those who know
>me--which cannot be you or the abusers here because you have no clue
>about what I am really like having never met me, and no doubt, you would
>cower if you met me and hide in the corner.
> There is no one with any brains or sincerity to discuss anything with
>here any longer now that you losers insist on allowing your inferiority
>and intimidation by me run rampant. So I simply post my work and answer
>an occasional post that contains real questions.
You're a sociopathic liar who deserves to be jailed. All that you
state above is a lie. You're the one that's cowering in the corner,
and you never cease to dance like a puppet on demand.
Your puny and powerless follow-up trick has been defeated, as usual,
and the remaining excrement masking itself as a post snipped so as not
to stink up metapsych.
el...@no.spam
Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Richard Nolle purposely abusing from sprint.net--
Translation: Edmo is quite jealous of Richard.
John Griffin
> Richard Nolle purposely abusing from sprint.net-- complaints can be sent
> to ab...@sprint.net wrote:
[ Note that the spineless, puling little wimp set
followups to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet only.
Disgusting, cowardly, stupid cretin.]
Edmofool, it's your lucky day. I'm feeling sympathetic because you have
so many emotional problems and no apparent non-problem emotions,
so I've decided to share some information with you.
1. When people reply to your articles, they're trying to help you
see how self-defeating your babbling is. This fact applies as much
to the first time you post one of your mindless rants as to all the
subsequent times, i.e., your obnoxious spam.
2. Since you never have had and never will have the balls and the
brainpower to effectively dispute what anyone says, you would be
better off to just slink away.
3. Complaining to a third party because you're humiliated by someone
kicking your dumb ass in a newsgroup is number one on the list of
warning signs that you're a spineless, slobbering coward.
4. The fact that you can figure out where to send chickenshit complaints
about people who try to help you is a clear, unambiguous indication
that ANYONE can.
Corollary: Posting abuse addresses is something that only a
whiny little kid and his emotional peers would do.
5. The moon did not migrate across the galaxy from another star.
News Flash: Orion is not a star.
6. There are only three celestial objects that have any effect on you.
First, there's the planet Earth. It tolerates your presence, something
for which you ought to try to show some appreciation now and then.
The sun, for obvious reasons, is another. I think it might have given
you a sunstroke. The other one is the moon, because it might reflect
enough light to help you find your way home some night, assuming that
you overcome the other major obstacle, and because it gave us the
word "lunatic." There are some other things that I won't try to dumb
down enough for you to understand them.
Corollary: The past, present and future positions of planets and
stars relative to Earth has no effect on your life, except insofar
as they provide the basis for a primitive superstition that parasites
like you would like to use as a scam.
7. "Incoherent" is a euphemistic way of describing your special
industrial strength brand of incoherence.
A sad fact: Your repetitious yapping is more irrelevant and
ignorant than incoherent.
8. You're helping to make the word "bimbo" a unisex term.
9. You abuse yourself.
Example: Setting followups to newsgroups other than those in
which you post your fucking idiotic nonsense. This is like
wearing a sign saying "I'm the lamest, most cowardly asshole
who ever posted here." That isn't news to anyone; it's just
an example of what a loser you are.
Another example: Your constant "verbal onanism."
Bottom line: If you don't think you can adequately defend
yourself, you're absolutely right. Accept, as gracefully
as possible, your role as a usenet laughingstock, i.e., be
all you can be.
> [ laughable self-promotion snipped ]
> [ irrelevant quotation snipped ]
> [ scam website advertisement snipped ]
Edmond Wollmann
Actually, it is quite the reverse. The reason why the destruction of
alt.astrology ever started was because of my brilliance and the
inability for other posters and spinics to denigrate or defeat my
arguments, hence, they figured it was better to call me a kook and not
really engage in a real argument they knew they would lose.
Subject: Re: Well, that was fun..
Date: 08 Sep 96 02:32:39 EDT
From: "Susan Boyle" <103674.201 @CompuServe.COM>
To: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@mail.sdsu.edu>
Danced what's left of my little tush off..actually, wait a minute,
there's still quite a bit left! I feel good..
Honey I am most sincerely not flattering you. I am trying to
express the truth as I see it. You ARE like the old man on the mountain
in the newsgroup because your logic is flawless, you do not contradict
yourself and your writing is sooo beautiful, it is rather 'old-worldly'
and very elegant. I can also clearly see that some are threatened by
this and will try to 'pit' themselves against your authority and take
you on over little things. As you state, it is impotent; as I see it,
they are lucky you bother to answer..remember, that I am very perceptive
and sensitive to the tone of these posts..and, as you have stated, can
see the forest through the trees. I say it really reduces to well,
jealousy.
If you would let me, I would take these people on myself; it
alternately amuses me and irritates me to read their questions
sometimes. They are just clatter and din in the background..I would rip
them apart like the tigress I am; they would never DARE approach my mate
after that..this is probably the one area that I could become a complete
WITCH in. I love you; when someone tries to discomfit you, it
discomfits me..
Susan
"I'm filling the cracks that ran through the door and kept my mind from
wandering, where it will gooooo, OOOOOoooooaaaaaaahhhh-And it really
doesn't matter if I'm wrong I'm right, where I belong I'm right, where I
belong! See the people standing there, who disagree and never win and
wonder why they don't get in my door?" The Beatles "Fixing a Hole"
Cujo
news:3DCD31...@earthlink.net:
> This drawing is [slap]
lame, inaccurate and a piece of shit that Edmo probably copied from a far
superior work.
--
There wouldn't be as many satisfied ladies around, if I
hadn't ditched them long ago! - Edmo in a moment of candor.
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
Winner of the August, 2000 HL&S award. Hail Petitmorte!
http://www.petitmorte.net/cujo/cujcert.jpg
Fanatic Legion # 555-PLNTY
Rank: Colonel
Motto: "ABUNDANCE!"
Cujo
@earthlink.net:
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
>> This drawing is of the arms and armor of a German knight, made about
>> the period in 1500. Horses were as lavishly accoutred as their noble
>> riders.
>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
>
>> As a part of the training that prepared them for knighthood, boys
>> learned to hunt with hawks and falcons. (Falcon in upper left).
>
>> Under the eyes of admiring ladies, a knight would unhorse his jousting
>> opponents. Women profoundly affected chivalry. The art of proper and
>> acceptable behavior at court was a "courtesy". The new ideal of
>> "courtly love" developed in the minds and hearts of those in the 11th
>> and 12th centuries.
>
> It is now time to convey the dream I am.
It's all a dream, you fucking kook. You're a miserable failure in every
way. HTH!
Cujo
> Richard Nolle purposely abusing from sprint.net-- complaints can be
> sent to ab...@sprint.net wrote:
>
>> Phoenix wrote:
>
>> > In article <3DCD5E...@earthlink.net>, Edmond Wollmann
>> > <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> > > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
>> > > > This drawing is of the arms and armor of a German knight, made
>> > > > about the period in 1500. Horses were as lavishly accoutred as
>> > > > their noble riders.
>
>> > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
>
>> > > > As a part of the training that prepared them for knighthood,
>> > > > boys learned to hunt with hawks and falcons. (Falcon in upper
>> > > > left).
>
>> > > > Under the eyes of admiring ladies, a knight would unhorse his
>> > > > jousting opponents. Women profoundly affected chivalry. The art
>> > > > of proper and acceptable behavior at court was a "courtesy".
>> > > > The new ideal of "courtly love" developed in the minds and
>> > > > hearts of those in the 11th and 12th centuries.
>
>> > > It is now time to convey the dream I am.
>
>> > Stop talking to yourself, frootloop.
>
> Why does this bother you so? You talk to yourself when you tag onto my
> posts, because I rarely if ever even look at your spam.
Except when you're whining about his bootprint on your ass. Which happens
every time he laughs at your kookery. Face it, Edmo. you've lost more
arguments than Richard Bullis, Bill Palmer and Dan Kettler combined. I
think bDan actually won an argument once, that puts him ahead of you.
>> If only he were talking to himself alone. Alas, he inflicts his
>> self-adulation on various newsgroups. The self-proclaimed "Lofty One"
>> is in fact a Loony One, a Lowly One widely despised
>
> He, he, he. Not true cowardly one. I am well liked by those who know
> me--which cannot be you or the abusers here because you have no clue
> about what I am really like having never met me, and no doubt, you
> would cower if you met me and hide in the corner.
You mean like you did when we invited you to lunch in a public place and
you never showed up for? I guess the police escort didn't have enough
advance notice or something. Maybe they couldn't find the place?
> There is no one with any brains or sincerity to discuss anything with
> here any longer now that you losers insist on allowing your
> inferiority and intimidation by me run rampant. So I simply post my
> work and answer an occasional post that contains real questions.
No, you post screed and when you are challenged for evidence you whine to
abuse groups that ignore you.
>> for his completely groundless hubris: this is what comes of being a
>> legend in one's own mind.
>
> Unlike you, I know that I am insignificant in the scheme of things,
All you are is a drain on the taxpayers.
> but yet realize that every person of integrity like myself makes a
> difference--even if a small one--and that to see what is right and not
> to do it would render me a coward like the lot of you. A fate I will
> never embrace.
Gee, ducking out of multiple invites to lunch makes you a brave man?
> Learn some psychology, it may help you to see your attacks on me as
> others do; telling us far more of you than me. Perhaps then the
> embarassment will finally set in for your actions,
I'm sure a sociopath like yourself is incapable of feeling any
embarassment.
> and you can stop
> pretending that you are somehow in the right for being so petty and
> transparent. You cannot remove yourself from your analysis, which ends
> up simply being humorous and infantile rather than insightful.
> Mars in Libra likes to be all things to everyone and ends up being
> nothing to anyone.
Nice babble! Too bad your book wasn't a tad more clear but your points
still have no evidence to back them up. You sound like the 1st half of a
Sherlock Holmes deduction. Too bad it's the second half that makes the
story interesting. BTW, when is your magazine coming out? I've been
waiting for it for months! I'm dying to know all the results you've
gotten from your NM observatory you constructed in your castle. Failing
that, I'll charter an plane to fly out, just tell me where the airstrip
is located.
TIA!
Cujo
@earthlink.net:
> el...@no.spam wrote:
>
>> In article <3DCDE7...@earthlink.net>,
>> Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> >Richard Nolle purposely abusing from sprint.net--
>
>> Translation: Edmo is quite jealous of Richard.
>
> Actually, it is quite the reverse. The reason why the destruction of
> alt.astrology ever started was because of my brilliance and the
> inability for other posters and spinics to denigrate or defeat my
> arguments, hence, they figured it was better to call me a kook and not
> really engage in a real argument they knew they would lose.
Edmo! You haven't won an argument yet! You're also banned from a number
of newsgroups and ISPs. You can't even show up for a lunch invite in a
public place without a police escort you'd never get in the first place,
kook. How's that degree at Kepler coming along, Eddieeeeee? About as well
as the one at SDSU, it appears!
SPNAK!
Cujo
news:c4550245.02111...@posting.google.com:
I agree with this poast to the fucking max!!!1!!!!!!!
[NANAU snecked, AAM added] Part-ay on, DEWDS!!!!1!!!!
Marc Hodde
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
XSPN is going to do a segment on my EXTREME AGREEING with Hillbilly's post!
WAAAAAHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!1!!!!22!!!!!33!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!456789!!!!!!!!!!
Richard Nolle
> John Rules!
Subscribe - at the special lifetime and sustaining member rate, please.
Jeffrey Jupiter
<arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>el...@no.spam wrote:
>
>> In article <3DCDE7...@earthlink.net>,
>> Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> >Richard Nolle purposely abusing from sprint.net--
>
>> Translation: Edmo is quite jealous of Richard.
>
>Actually, it is quite the reverse. The reason why the destruction of
>alt.astrology ever started was because of my
stupid nonsense, incoherent diatribes, and endless spam.
>
>"gooooo, OOOOOoooooaaaaaaahhhh-"
>
P U. Someone light a match, Edmond farted!
el...@no.spam
Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> lied:
>>Translation: Edmo is quite jealous of Richard.
>Actually, it is quite the reverse.
No, Edie, it is not the reverse. You are jealous and it is quite
obvious. The only one that can't see it is you and that is
because you are deluded and out of touch with reality:
"I got no support from the astrological community and they will get none
from me."
Edmo, Richard has no reason to be jealous of a failure like you. Try
some other lie that's not so obvious.
Marc Hodde
> Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote in news:3DCD5E90.6B74
> @earthlink.net:
>
>
>>Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>
>>
>>>This drawing is of the arms and armor of a German knight, made about
>>>the period in 1500. Horses were as lavishly accoutred as their noble
>>>riders.
>>
>>
>>
>>>http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
>>
>>
>>
>>>As a part of the training that prepared them for knighthood, boys
>>>learned to hunt with hawks and falcons. (Falcon in upper left).
>>
>>
>>
>>>Under the eyes of admiring ladies, a knight would unhorse his jousting
>>>opponents. Women profoundly affected chivalry. The art of proper and
>>>acceptable behavior at court was a "courtesy". The new ideal of
>>>"courtly love" developed in the minds and hearts of those in the 11th
>>>and 12th centuries.
>>
>>It is now time to convey the dream I am.
>
>
> It's all a dream, you fucking kook. You're a miserable failure in every
> way. HTH!
>
Here is Ed Wollmann being chivalrous and courtly:
"You could very well be a rich bitch I have
pissed off, there have been a few you know." -Ed
"What the fuck are you talking about drug addict? Are you ODing again on
them?" -Ed Wollmann
"Its YOUR VENGANCE SEEKING OVERGROWN 5 year old that is wrecking this
group you spoiled abusive arrogant brat. All because he has to go out
and get revenge for your inability to handle your own life, and keep
your legs closed.
Get out. Or post astrology." -Ed Wollmann
Marc Hodde
so I cannot chastise anyone for that" - Ed Wollmann, Hypocrite and
NetKook. 1999
"It is not that big of a deal, this is just a newsgroup it is
not a battle for king of the Earth or something! Take a break!" -Ed Wollmann
"I have abandoned the newsgroup I created, alt.astrology.metapsych if
anyone wishes to use it for posting astrology subjects it is there for
their use." -Ed, 9/14/97
"Why is this abuser running ads for [alt.asttrology.moderated] and
against my group?" --Ed Wollmann, claiming metapsych is "his" group.
"It is NOT MY GROUP, how many times do you need to hear this? " Ed
Wollmann, contradicting himself yet again.
"For the sake of the newsgroup I am going to get off for good." Ed
Wollmann, liar,
12/7/97
"Cencorship continues, so here's my last post" - Ed Wollmann, lying
again, 3/18/99
"I am no longer posting and all messages you see are forgeries." Ed
Wollmann,continual liar
5/26/99 (and various dates thereafter)
"I am permanently off usenet as of 7/20/99 --Ed Wollmann, proven liar
"I am permanently off usenet as of 7/29/99" - Ed Wollmann, pathological
liar
"I am permanently ending any form of discussion on usenet as of
8/13/99" -Ed Wollmann
Marc Hodde
I fixed the subject line to remind people why Ed was ever called
"Pantyhead" in the first place. ;-)
Marc Hodde
> el...@no.spam wrote:
>
>
>>In article <3DCDE7...@earthlink.net>,
>>Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>Richard Nolle purposely abusing from sprint.net--
>>
>
>
>>Translation: Edmo is quite jealous of Richard.
>
>
> Actually, it is quite the reverse. The reason why the destruction of
> alt.astrology ever started was because of my
spamming, censorship, control issues, sociopathy, lies, and kookiness.
mike II
>
> This drawing is of the arms and armor of a German knight, made about
> the period in 1500. Horses were as lavishly accoutred as their noble
> riders.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
Looks like more plagiarism to me, Mr. Wollmann, or did you just 'blend'
this old fruit company label? Looks like the same horses' hoof is off
the ground too...
http://www.sover.net/~oldlabel/Orange_crate/royalknight_lg.jpg
mike II
Marc Hodde
Nah. Pretty common imagery, actually.
Too much re-positioning to be an EdBlend®.
When Eddddieee rips something off, he *really* rips it off. It's like he
traces it. NOTHING original in it.
How about this one!
http://shop.sell-free.com/replicas/arms/5502.jpg
or this one:
http://www.pawprintscrossstitch.com/images/cutworks-maxmilian.jpg
Whoa, Nelly. 16th Century German Knights:
mike II
> 8. You're helping to make the word "bimbo" a unisex term.
There goes my sex life. You've just made 'Wollmann' synonymous with
'erectile disfunction'. That, and assuring that I get a picture of
Edmond in my brain every time a dimwit trampish floozie walks by. Come
to think of it, except for the gender thing, there may be more than a
passing similarity. And I'm not too sure about the gender issue.
mike (Bimbos? Yeah..I **used** to respect them) II
mike II
> When Eddddieee rips something off, he *really* rips it off. It's like he
> traces it. NOTHING original in it.
> How about this one!
> http://shop.sell-free.com/replicas/arms/5502.jpg
> or this one:
> http://www.pawprintscrossstitch.com/images/cutworks-maxmilian.jpg
> Whoa, Nelly. 16th Century German Knights:
> http://www.netcowork.it/benzoni/cav11.jpg
Mr. Wollmann's sketch sure looks sad compared to those. Things must have
looked amateurish and uninspired in the fifteenth century as compared to
the sixteenth.
mike II