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xenufrance

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Aug 16, 2009, 4:27:11 PM8/16/09
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"Go Navy" <galg...@gmail.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
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> About Class XII
>
> Pierre is currently working on empowering individuals to greatly
> develop and enhance their abilities by standard tech application.
>
> He has put his web site down and his schedule is very busy. He is
> currently in Florida, heading later on to Brazil and Europe.

so he seems hoping to remake another scieno cult with many of the same
errors as the original?

r


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Go Navy

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On Aug 16, 5:20 pm, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 4:27 pm, "xenufrance" <xenufra...@free.fr> wrote:
>
> > "Go Navy" <galgon...@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > d9970821-9299-42fd-b38d-ca81c4e34...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com...

>
> > > About Class XII
>
> > > Pierre is currently working on empowering individuals to greatly
> > > develop and enhance their abilities by standard tech application.
>
> > > He has put his web site down and his schedule is very busy. He is
> > > currently in Florida, heading later on to Brazil and Europe.
>
> > so he seems hoping to remake another scieno cult with many of the same
> > errors as the original?
>
> > r
>
> Doubt it ... he is not interested

I will ignor ALL communication that is based on speculations, that
does not make common sense, and rude comments.

Jommy Cross

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Aug 16, 2009, 7:56:03 PM8/16/09
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:25:45 -0700 (PDT), Go Navy <galg...@gmail.com>
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>On Aug 16, 5:20�pm, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 16, 4:27�pm, "xenufrance" <xenufra...@free.fr> wrote:
>>
>> > "Go Navy" <galgon...@gmail.com> a �crit dans le message de news:


>> > d9970821-9299-42fd-b38d-ca81c4e34...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > About Class XII
>>
>> > > Pierre is currently working on empowering individuals to greatly
>> > > develop and enhance their abilities by standard tech application.
>>
>> > > He has put his web site down and his schedule is very busy. He is
>> > > currently in Florida, heading later on to Brazil and Europe.
>>
>> > so he seems hoping to remake another scieno cult with many of the same
>> > errors as the original?
>>
>> > r
>>
>> Doubt it ... he is not interested
>
>I will ignor ALL communication that is based on speculations, that
>does not make common sense, and rude comments.

So how did you cope with reading Hubbard, given those requirements?

Ever yours in fandom,
Jommy Cross

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Skipper

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Aug 16, 2009, 10:45:12 PM8/16/09
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<d9970821-9299-42fd...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>, Go
Navy <galg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> About Class XII
>
> Pierre is currently working on empowering individuals to greatly
> develop and enhance their abilities by standard tech application.
>
> He has put his web site down and his schedule is very busy. He is
> currently in Florida, heading later on to Brazil and Europe.

Tell him to go to Antarctica and apply his "tech" by staying there and
holding the position.

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xenufrance

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"Go Navy" <galg...@gmail.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
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On Aug 16, 5:20 pm, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 4:27 pm, "xenufrance" <xenufra...@free.fr> wrote:
>
> > "Go Navy" <galgon...@gmail.com> a �crit dans le message de news:

> > d9970821-9299-42fd-b38d-ca81c4e34...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > About Class XII
>
> > > Pierre is currently working on empowering individuals to greatly
> > > develop and enhance their abilities by standard tech application.
>
> > > He has put his web site down and his schedule is very busy. He is
> > > currently in Florida, heading later on to Brazil and Europe.
>
> > so he seems hoping to remake another scieno cult with many of the same
> > errors as the original?
>
> > r
>
> Doubt it ... he is not interested

I will ignor ALL communication that is based on speculations, that
does not make common sense, and rude comments.

Well, better avoid any communications on topics like scientology, "G�o
Navy".

Pierre, if you're go navy or if you read this, I'd like to know if you hope
to get scientology working with the whole Green on white, the whole Org Bd,
the whole lot of policies on sales, regging etc??

r


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Skipper

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Aug 17, 2009, 1:11:57 PM8/17/09
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Navy <galg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 16, 10:45�pm, Skipper <skipSPAMpr...@yahoo.not> wrote:
> > In article
> > <d9970821-9299-42fd-b38d-ca81c4e34...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>, Go


> >
> > Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > About Class XII
> >
> > > Pierre is currently working on empowering individuals to greatly
> > > develop and enhance their abilities by standard tech application.
> >
> > > He has put his web site down and his schedule is very busy. He is
> > > currently in Florida, heading later on to Brazil and Europe.
> >
> > Tell him to go to Antarctica and apply his "tech" by staying there and
> > holding the position.
>

> any other brain fart? ... please do not hesitate!

Well, you anonymous moron spamming the bullshit idea that any version
of $cientology has worth, I'm not sure you'd understand anything anyone
here said, much less anything "brain" connected.

Out_Of_The_Dark

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Aug 17, 2009, 3:08:21 PM8/17/09
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On Aug 16, 12:20 pm, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> About Class XII
>
> Pierre is currently working on empowering individuals to greatly
> develop and enhance their abilities by standard tech application.
>
> He has put his web site down and his schedule is very busy. He is
> currently in Florida, heading later on to Brazil and Europe.

Why did he "put his web site down" ? Are you saying that he closed it
down? I can see him pulling the ciommentary on Jason Beghe being
pulled off but why the complete site?

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Out_Of_The_Dark

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Aug 17, 2009, 5:38:15 PM8/17/09
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On Aug 17, 5:15 pm, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Due to death threats and other threats by people associated with hate
> groups, out of concern for the security of his child.

Well, this is the first I have ever hear of such. I find it hard to
believe he'd be having those kinds of problems and at least not have
posted something to hint that people were harassing him. When you say
"hate groups", can you be more specific? I canot immagine anyone
wanting to do this to him. Is this related to the autism issue?

Out_Of_The_Dark

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Aug 17, 2009, 5:41:17 PM8/17/09
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On Aug 17, 5:15 pm, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 17, 3:08 pm, Out_Of_The_Dark <formerlyfoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Due to death threats and other threats by people associated with hate
> groups, out of concern for the security of his child.

This sounds like spam. Both Pierre's youtube channel and his website
are still up.

http://www.upperbridge.org/

http://www.youtube.com/user/PierreEthierClXII

Explain that

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Skipper

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Aug 17, 2009, 7:20:21 PM8/17/09
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Navy <galg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 17, 1:11�pm, Skipper <skipSPAMpr...@yahoo.not> wrote:
> > In article

> > <b4b5152a-0e37-42d6-8898-c89c7a50e...@r18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Go


> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 16, 10:45�pm, Skipper <skipSPAMpr...@yahoo.not> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <d9970821-9299-42fd-b38d-ca81c4e34...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>, Go
> >
> > > > Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > About Class XII
> >
> > > > > Pierre is currently working on empowering individuals to greatly
> > > > > develop and enhance their abilities by standard tech application.
> >
> > > > > He has put his web site down and his schedule is very busy. He is
> > > > > currently in Florida, heading later on to Brazil and Europe.
> >
> > > > Tell him to go to Antarctica and apply his "tech" by staying there and
> > > > holding the position.
> >
> > > any other brain fart? ... please do not hesitate!
> >
> > Well, you anonymous moron spamming the bullshit idea that any version
> > of $cientology has worth, I'm not sure you'd understand anything anyone

> > here said, much less anything "brain" connected.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Did yopu poop now ? Forgot your diaper?

Yopu?

Is that a Class 12 word?

Wow, I'll have to just run right out and get some of that Class 12
stuff, Pierre Poopypants!

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Jommy Cross

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Aug 17, 2009, 10:18:06 PM8/17/09
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:56:33 -0700 (PDT), Go Navy <galg...@gmail.com>
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>On Aug 16, 7:56�pm, jommycross@[127.1] (Jommy Cross) wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:25:45 -0700 (PDT), Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com>
>> wrote in msg
>> <195334f8-0326-442c-b6a6-a422f9f29...@c14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>:
>> >On Aug 16, 5:20�pm, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Aug 16, 4:27�pm, "xenufrance" <xenufra...@free.fr> wrote:
>>
>> >> > "Go Navy" <galgon...@gmail.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
>> >> > d9970821-9299-42fd-b38d-ca81c4e34...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com..

>>
>> >> > > About Class XII
>>
>> >> > > Pierre is currently working on empowering individuals to greatly
>> >> > > develop and enhance their abilities by standard tech application.

<snip>


>>
>> >I will ignor ALL communication that is based on speculations, that

>> >does not make common sense, and rude comments.
>>
>> So how did you cope with reading Hubbard, given those requirements?

<snip>
>
>Never did ! and don not care!

So, lemme get this straight. You're here promoting Pierre Ethier, that
champion of standardly standard Hubbardism, but you have personally never
read any Hubbard? Not even DMSMH?

Incident zero: maybe Ron didn't troll you

Out_Of_The_Dark

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Aug 17, 2009, 10:29:03 PM8/17/09
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On Aug 17, 7:35 pm, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Explain that- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Did you noticed that none of the links work- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -
ok, so it's posted for Pierre. That's good to know.

However, the youtube channel is still up
http://www.youtube.com/user/PierreEthierClXII

Here is today's cache of the upperbridge.org site
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:jXFMuR8FkvcJ:www.upperbridge.org/+http://www.upperbridge.org/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Not sure why the site should be removed completely or if it's just
being edited today. Any threats, especially death threats should be
reported to the police.

I think that if Pierre just ignores the freezone, they will ignore
him. It's never going to last anyway and it's never gotten anywhere to
begin with. Certainly nothing to risk a family over.

Skipper

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Aug 17, 2009, 11:00:29 PM8/17/09
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Navy <galg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 17, 7:20�pm, Skipper <skipSPAMpr...@yahoo.not> wrote:
> > In article

> > <63367b53-9e6e-4a98-a26a-bc0f7bdcf...@g10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Go

> > stuff, Pierre Poopypants!- Hide quoted text -


> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>

> You forgot your diaper, dear!

Flunk for "out-TRs" sweetie. Start... walking away.

What a fine example of the insanity of any kind of $cientology you are.

t_shuffle

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"Go Navy" <galg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> About Class XII
>
> Pierre is currently working on empowering individuals to
> greatly develop and enhance their abilities by standard
> tech application.
>
> He has put his web site down and his schedule is very
> busy. He is currently in Florida, heading later on to
> Brazil and Europe.

Isn't he the dude that helped Tommy Thompson become able to talk to grass
and tell ants what to do?


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Skipper

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Navy <galg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 17, 11:00�pm, Skipper <skipSPAMpr...@yahoo.not> wrote:
> > In article

> > <e53e5d46-c5e4-4f38-8079-7f9b23884...@b14g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Go


> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 17, 7:20�pm, Skipper <skipSPAMpr...@yahoo.not> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <63367b53-9e6e-4a98-a26a-bc0f7bdcf...@g10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Go
> >
> > > > Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Aug 17, 1:11�pm, Skipper <skipSPAMpr...@yahoo.not> wrote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <b4b5152a-0e37-42d6-8898-c89c7a50e...@r18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > Go
> >
> > > > > > Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Aug 16, 10:45�pm, Skipper <skipSPAMpr...@yahoo.not> wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article
> >
> > > > > > > >
> <d9970821-9299-42fd-b38d-ca81c4e34...@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > �Go
> >
> > > > > > > > Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > About Class XII
> >

> > > > > > > > >Pierreis currently working on empowering individuals to greatly


> > > > > > > > > develop and enhance their abilities by standard tech
> application.
> >
> > > > > > > > > He has put his web site down and his schedule is very busy.
> He is
> > > > > > > > > currently in Florida, heading later on to Brazil and Europe.
> >
> > > > > > > > Tell him to go to Antarctica and apply his "tech" by staying
> there
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > holding the position.
> >
> > > > > > > any other brain fart? ... please do not hesitate!
> >
> > > > > > Well, you anonymous moron spamming the bullshit idea that any
> > > > > > version
> > > > > > of $cientology has worth, I'm not sure you'd understand anything
> > > > > > anyone
> > > > > > here said, much less anything "brain" connected.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > > > Did yopu poop now ? Forgot your diaper?
> >
> > > > Yopu?
> >
> > > > Is that a Class 12 word?
> >
> > > > Wow, I'll have to just run right out and get some of that Class 12

> > > > stuff,PierrePoopypants!- Hide quoted text -


> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > You forgot your diaper, dear!
> >
> > Flunk for "out-TRs" sweetie. Start... walking away.
> >

> > What a fine example of the insanity of any kind of $cientology you are.- Hide quoted text -


> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>

Wow, no shitty retort this time. We stumped him.

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On Aug 18, 8:35 am, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 17, 10:29 pm, Out_Of_The_Dark <formerlyfoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 17, 7:35 pm, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 17, 5:41 pm, Out_Of_The_Dark <formerlyfoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 17, 5:15 pm, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Aug 17, 3:08 pm, Out_Of_The_Dark <formerlyfoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Aug 16, 12:20 pm, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > About Class XII
>
> > > > > > >Pierreis currently working on empowering individuals to greatly

> > > > > > > develop and enhance their abilities by standard tech application.
>
> > > > > > > He has put his web site down and his schedule is very busy. He is
> > > > > > > currently in Florida, heading later on to Brazil and Europe.
>
> > > > > > Why did he "put his web site down" ? Are you saying that he closed it
> > > > > > down? I can see him pulling the ciommentary on Jason Beghe being
> > > > > > pulled off but why the complete site?
>
> > > > > Due to death threats and other threats by people associated with hate
> > > > > groups, out of concern for the security of his child.
>
> > > > This sounds like spam. BothPierre'syoutube channel and his website

> > > > are still up.
>
> > > >http://www.upperbridge.org/
>
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/user/PierreEthierClXII
>
> > > > Explain that- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Did you noticed that none of the links work- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > ok, so it's posted forPierre. That's good to know.
>
> > However, the youtube channel is still uphttp://www.youtube.com/user/PierreEthierClXII
>
> > Here is today's cache of the upperbridge.org sitehttp://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:jXFMuR8FkvcJ:www.upperbridge.org/...

>
> > Not sure why the site should be removed completely or if it's just
> > being edited today. Any threats, especially death threats should be
> > reported to the police.
>
> > I think that ifPierrejust ignores the freezone, they will ignore

> > him. It's never going to last anyway and it's never gotten anywhere to
> > begin with. Certainly nothing to risk a family over.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Inesting why do you spend all that tim checking cashe of sites.
> Nothing better to do in life ?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


I like some of the stuff on that website. It's historical and one of
the important sites for people to read when they get out. Glad to see
it cached.

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Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx

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"Go Navy" <galg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> it cached.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

>Is it true that people from COS are trained to harass others to cause them
>to commit suicide .

This is policy. If the cult member cannot persuade the target to become
subsumed by Scientology, they become a threat to the cult. Threats to
Scientology must be destroyed "utterly and without sorrow", as humanitarian
L. Ron Hubbard put it. And one of Hubbard's preferred methods to do so was
to supposedly persuade the target to off themselves, hopefully with a
self-aimed bullet in the head.

Hence that�s how they are use to get their
way through and the old habits are in full application by those who
were kicked out of the church? They get even more rude , nasty and
upset when the person under attack is high on the tone scale. Like mad
dogs.


Out_Of_The_Dark

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Aug 19, 2009, 8:15:42 PM8/19/09
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On Aug 19, 8:05 pm, "Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx" <not-
earthli...@nor-hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Go Navy" <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>  Hence that�s how they are use to get their

> way through and the old habits are in full application by those who
> were kicked out of the church? They get even more rude , nasty and
> upset when the person under attack is high on the tone scale. Like mad
> dogs.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I don't think Pierre is ever going to get it.

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Terril Park

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On Aug 20, 12:46 am, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Is it true that people from COS are trained to harass others to cause

> them to commit suicide . Hence that’s how they are use to get their


> way through and the old habits are in full application by those who
> were kicked out of the church? They get even more rude , nasty and
> upset when the person under attack is high on the tone scale. Like mad
> dogs.

This is probably Pierre's wife. Pierre dosn't like her interfering
with his Freezone efforts as you can perhaps surmise from this post.

All this talk of death threats is complete nonsense. I have been
accused of this by Pierre's wife, and I have no idea why.

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Skipper

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> Did you kill Lisa?

Freezone catfight!

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Skipper

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> > Freezone catfight!


> > - Show quoted text -
>

> FairGame by Phil Scott

You obviously misunderstand the first law of karma:

Get a life.

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Fluffy Debate Maven

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"Go Navy" <galg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Oh, is someone giving advice to Go Navy?

Probably an exercise in futility.

C

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Jommy Cross

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On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:22:54 -0700 (PDT), Terril Park
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>On Aug 20, 12:46�am, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Is it true that people from COS are trained to harass others to cause

>> them to commit suicide . Hence that�s how they are use to get their


>> way through and the old habits are in full application by those who
>> were kicked out of the church? They get even more rude , nasty and
>> upset when the person under attack is high on the tone scale. Like mad
>> dogs.
>
> This is probably Pierre's wife. Pierre dosn't like her interfering
>with his Freezone efforts as you can perhaps surmise from this post.
>
> All this talk of death threats is complete nonsense. I have been
>accused of this by Pierre's wife, and I have no idea why.

bb, in my experience a lot of $cienos are paranoid batshit k00kazoids, so
there really doesn't have to be a reason.

Out_Of_The_Dark

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Aug 22, 2009, 10:29:32 PM8/22/09
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On Aug 22, 8:22 am, Terril Park <basic2ba...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi terril,
I do believe it's probably his wife because I checked the links to his
site nd youtube channel and they were still up as opposed to what
what Go Navy stated in the first post of this thread. So just after
that , he/she posts this,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/f89b218acf8e457e?hl=en
and sure enough the upperbridge.org site was down at that time. I
thhen replied that there was at least an archived cached copy of the
site, and then after that, the website was back up again,. Only Pierre
or his wife could have access to taking down and putting back up the
site.

What concerns me the most about this Go Navy person is that he/she
seems to misdiuplicate what people are saying and is coming back with
attacks of unnecessary and foolish atacks, making me think that the
person is stuck in some juvenile tit-for-tat trolling activity that is
NOT helping Pierre in his cause at all. That is why I don't think it's
him. As well, I never saw or read him posting in this disturbing way.

Go Navy's accusations about death threats is a serious thing that
should not be believed without evidence that this is fact and that the
authorities have been contacted.

I also found it ironic that Pierre would be attacking the FZ on the
standardness and quality of the tech L's when he, himself, was Mario
Majorski's auditor when he was at Flag doing his L11 and L11
expanded.

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/m/mario-majorski.html
Mario's name is right here on Pierre's archived website
http://web.archive.org/web/20071216162915/http://www.upperbridge.org/

[..] FAKE L Rundowns delivered in the Free Zone

One for one each and every individual that I have examined that
received that received the "Ls" (or whatever you call their alter-ised
rendition) from someone who did not train correctly on the full theory
with all the approprate drills done with an experienced Class XII had
the following three symptoms months and years after "completing
them":

1- General case state seriously deteriorated

2- Doing significantly worse in life after the auditing. (many
compared their life as little better than being flotsam)

3- Noticeable worsening of physical condition.

I know it well, I have done some reviews of those botched cases and
people were in truly miserable condition.

The reasons are obvious: Cases are not being setup, the "Auditor"
doesn't have a clue what he is auditing. Botched L&Ns, Unblown case,
Unflat Evil Intentions and partially run Succumb Postulates.

Also since these auditors have obviously the quickie impulse (they do
not even try to train completely on the materials), they invariably
quickie those rundowns in one quarter to one tenth of the time they
should be spending on them. The full phenomeon is described in C/S
Series 77.

The following should be read by anyone considering delivering without
adequate training or receiving the Ls from same:

It is rumoured that the Ls Materials that were leaked on the Internet
and are in use by various FZ auditors today were purposely leaked by
the Church with the unavowed intention to "spin the squirrels". Their
"release" contained major steps out of sequence, carefully misworded
commands meant to cave in the entire case on the recipient and core
steps meant to blow Succumb Postulates were carefully omitted.

Whether this is true or not I lack concrete evidence to state with
certainty, but having read the versions of the Ls in use by FZ
auditors, I can state unequivocably that the version they use is
completely consistent with that theory. It certainly aligns with the
Church philosophy about applying "FAIR GAME" to those they regard as
"Squirrels".

Thank to a remarquable memory and years of practice auditing and
translating the Ls Rundowns in 5 languages, I have been able to
reconstruct the entirety of the Ls Rundowns and their remedies. My
write up is well over 500 pages long and contains the totality of all
3 rundowns as well as their entire history, background, theory and
remedies. (Compare this to the paltry 50 pages released on the
Internet). [..]
http://www.upperbridge.org/
http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:jXFMuR8FkvcJ:www.upperbridge.org/+upperbridge.org&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

If he stinks the FZ is squirreling, who cares? There's no RTC for the
FZ and frankly, there is actually very littlke in th FZ compared to
what people envisioned but thae reasonbs for that is a story for
another day. The bottom line is that if people want to put their mind
into the hands of Scientology or the FZ, that's their choice and
people are going to do what they want, no matter what anyone says. All
one can do is inform, but if one "informs" by rumnor or in anger, or
in retaliation, people will wind up doing the opposite.
If it aint true, it's propagada.

Besides his warnings and statements about the L's, Pierre's website
contains many "future" articles names but none are up actually written
and upthere. I say get busy Pierre, and " poop or get off the pot".
Trying to control the FZlike Scientology tries to control it's members
is just not going to work.
Mary McConnell.

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On Aug 23, 3:29 am, Out_Of_The_Dark <formerlyfoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 22, 8:22 am, Terril Park <basic2ba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>

> >     This is probably Pierre's wife. Pierre dosn't like her interfering
> > with his Freezone efforts as you can perhaps surmise from this post.
>
> >     All this talk of death threats is complete nonsense. I have been
> > accused of this by Pierre's wife, and I have no idea why.
>
> Hi terril,
> I do believe it's probably his wife because I checked the links to his
> site nd youtube channel and they were still up as opposed to what
> what Go Navy stated in the first post of this thread. So just after

> that , he/she posts this,http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/f89b218ac...


> and sure enough the upperbridge.org site was down at that time.  I
> thhen replied that there was at least an archived cached copy of the
> site, and then after that, the website was back up again,. Only Pierre
> or his wife could have access to taking down and putting back up the
> site.
>
> What concerns me the most about this Go Navy person is that he/she
> seems to misdiuplicate what people are saying and is coming back with
> attacks of unnecessary and foolish atacks, making me think that the
> person is stuck in some juvenile tit-for-tat trolling activity that is
> NOT helping Pierre in his cause at all. That is why I don't think it's
> him. As well, I never saw or read him posting in this disturbing way.

I completely agree with your last paragraph. Last year Pierres
wife wrote posts attacking another FZer every day on a very obscure FZ
forum, I'd taken her off my forum when she was doing it there. Pierre
and this other person had a falling out, and then later Pierre had all
sorts of attacks on the FZ on his website. Pierre isn't terribly good
at getting on with others. Note that Ms Ethier has not denied my
statement of who she actually is.

With regard to Mario M, Pierre did audit him but not on L's. I
happen to know Mario's best friend in the FZ, who knew him when he was
fine, and met him again later when he was somewhat paranoid. I gather
his change was connected to being kicked out of the COS.

There is an interesting post on Marty Rathbun's blog where he
says that the L's had been known for more than 20 years to have some
flaws, and Miscavidge wouldn't act to get them corrected. Marty
implied that DM
was quite happy to have many clients doing extensive review at $1000
per
hour.

Eldon

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So if Pierre isn't good at getting on with others, and his wife is
stirring the entheta pot, might one conclude that a divorce would
improve his, her or both their lives? Go Navy certainly sounds
somewhat paranoid.

Skipper

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Terril Park <basic...@yahoo.com> wrote:

The day you knuckleheads WAKE UP and realize ALL of that crap not only
has flaws but is mental masturbation, you might be able to get lives.

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CA HORSE

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On Aug 23, 12:53 pm, Go Navy <galgon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  might one conclude that a divorce would improve his.
>
> Aida Thomas ( Diana Raynolds) offers auditing to divorce the folks.
> The best in class. Highly recommended!

Here you go Diana! You are good at it. You should handle.

CA HORSE

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Does not sound like her.

Ed

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