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Gregg Hagglund

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Feb 15, 2008, 7:38:15 PM2/15/08
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Can anyone else who still has contact or sources in Criminal Cult
confirm OSA fanantic insiders have flipped out?


I have received intelligence ( if you can call it that):

Apparently, DM has accepted an explanation for the Sudden Anonoymous
Uprising Phenomenom (Plague of those below 2.0 on Tone Scale) that
defies all reason. Allegedly some brilliant Hubbard fanatic has
convinced many senior Co$ that the Marcabs, the Fourth or Fifth
Invader Fleet and the Psychos have used the Internet to take control
of thousands of net Minions.
These hapless victims are attacking Scientology under the direction of
the Psychos immediate Lieutenants: ARSCC (wdne). Several current and
formerly overtly prominent ARS Sps are deemed to be Regional Directors
of Operations for Anonymous. These Regional directors will be targeted
for express handling should legal efforts fail to win injunctions
against the mass demonstrations.

I've had this madness communicated to me from two different and
usually reliable sources.

Have they blown our cover?

Gregg Hagglund SP7
WBM-Nord
R m3
(Regional Master of the Mindless Minions.)

Poofy

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Feb 15, 2008, 7:47:32 PM2/15/08
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Post up on Enturb. Anonymous would enjoy.

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xenu...@gmail.com

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Feb 15, 2008, 7:54:45 PM2/15/08
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EPIC. FUCKING. LULZ.

John Dorsay

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Feb 15, 2008, 7:59:27 PM2/15/08
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Gregg Hagglund wrote:
> Can anyone else who still has contact or sources in Criminal Cult
> confirm OSA fanantic insiders have flipped out?
>
>
> I have received intelligence ( if you can call it that):
>
> Apparently, DM has accepted an explanation for the Sudden Anonoymous
> Uprising Phenomenom (Plague of those below 2.0 on Tone Scale) that
> defies all reason. Allegedly some brilliant Hubbard fanatic has
> convinced many senior Co$ that the Marcabs, the Fourth or Fifth
> Invader Fleet and the Psychos have used the Internet to take control
> of thousands of net Minions.

Geez, I hope my choice of newsreader didn't give us away.

If it did, sorry.


John

Poofy

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Feb 15, 2008, 8:01:01 PM2/15/08
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:59:27 -0500, John Dorsay wrote:

> Gregg Hagglund wrote:
>> Can anyone else who still has contact or sources in Criminal Cult
>> confirm OSA fanantic insiders have flipped out?
>

> Geez, I hope my choice of newsreader didn't give us away.
>
> If it did, sorry.
>
>
> John

John, you win one internets for: User-Agent: Marcab Mail and News
Intergalactic Reader

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Ananamuss

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Feb 15, 2008, 8:13:08 PM2/15/08
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Dear Communo-Nazi-Marcab-Psych-Terrorist-Hacker Leaders:

My indoctrination is wearing off, can I just rub a Bounce sheet on my
hair to restore that "Just Brainwashed" feeling?

Love,

Me.

lol

eddieVroom

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Feb 15, 2008, 9:07:41 PM2/15/08
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I'm dug in with the Michigan Militia on schedule. Roll to 10th facet
(dodecahedron) for your Double Penetration Pleasure.

We're still on the Dark Side of the Moon.

--
the Tortured Spark - a Light in the Dark
the Mystical RevvedErrand Doktor eddieVroom
Northern Lights Motor Lodge
Knights of the Visible Wank-L

http://psyop13013.blogspot.com/

He only comes out when I drink my Djinn...

eddieVroom

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Feb 15, 2008, 9:13:39 PM2/15/08
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i can haz invasion fleet? ;)

eddieVroom

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Feb 15, 2008, 9:18:53 PM2/15/08
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FTSOH wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:38:15 -0500.
> In the Newsgroup(s): alt.religion.scientology
> With the Message-ID: <38bcr31nvuh97hsok...@4ax.com>
> And the Organization Header: Cogeco Cable.
> The famous author: Gregg Hagglund <elr...@cogeco.ca>.
> Wrote on the subject: Madness, Absolute Madness.:
> I haven't heard that yet from the insiders, but I wouldn't be surprised
> if he actually fell for that Psyop.

*whistles nonchalantly*

John Dorsay

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Feb 15, 2008, 9:25:16 PM2/15/08
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This isn't a joking matter. I don't know if anyone has been able to
fully decrypt the secure comm from you-know-where, but it looks like
we are under orders to ensure the target organization DOES NOT UNDER
ANY CIRCUMSTANCES go to media with this intel, or, well you know the
kind of stuff they do when we don't follow orders.

So we need to somehow stop the target organization from going to the
media. This is PRIORITY ONE!

I think we should go to Operation J&D immediately. Any other ideas?


John

John Dorsay

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Feb 15, 2008, 9:38:24 PM2/15/08
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FTSOH wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:59:27 -0500.
> In the Newsgroup(s): alt.religion.scientology
> With the Message-ID: <47b6356f$1...@news2.lightlink.com>
> And the Organization Header: Lightlink Internet.
> The famous author: John Dorsay <restim...@gmail.com>.
> Wrote on the subject: Re: Madness, Absolute Madness.:
> No problems I think. We just have to use the "chair". You've got the DNA
> from the "Ancients" don't you?

I know I slipped up, but surely you can't be suggesting... I can't
bring myself to think about it, never mind write about it. Somebody
throw me a lifeline before this gets out of hand. PLEASE!

anonymousAltF4

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Feb 15, 2008, 9:41:00 PM2/15/08
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Commander John, you should know better!

There is no & in Operation Jack Daniels!

John Dorsay

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Feb 15, 2008, 9:56:46 PM2/15/08
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Hadn't considered that. I was thinking of Operation J&D (that's
arscc Standard Operating Policy Joking & Degrading chapters 14 to
136 inclusive, except chapter 91 and chapters which are evenly
divisible by 17, for the benefit of anyone who hasn't yet memorized
the manual), but Operation Jack Daniels might be a better plan.

Neat or on the rocks?

Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for over 10 years!

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Feb 15, 2008, 9:57:03 PM2/15/08
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On Feb 15, 7:38 pm, Gregg Hagglund <elro...@cogeco.ca> wrote:

It REALLY is great to read your posts again Gregg..

eddieVroom

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Feb 15, 2008, 10:28:14 PM2/15/08
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He said HAND. heh heh.

Feisty

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Feb 15, 2008, 10:38:18 PM2/15/08
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"Gregg Hagglund" <elr...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:38bcr31nvuh97hsok...@4ax.com...


L Ron Hubbard:
"Hitler, clever old fellow. Oh, he is a smart boy. He was just clever as
hell. He wrecked more games in less space of time and provided less games
than any man I ever heard of.

11 Dec 52 PDC The Gradient Scale of Handling Space, Pg 43

"But there's that goal - that single clear starry goal and it is simply the
goal of "produce another thing like myself and lots of them."

Pg 50 12 Dec 52 Games/Goals

Maureen

Piltdown Man

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Feb 16, 2008, 1:06:32 AM2/16/08
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Gregg Hagglund <elr...@cogeco.ca> wrote...

> Can anyone else who still has contact or sources in Criminal Cult
> confirm OSA fanantic insiders have flipped out?
>
> I have received intelligence ( if you can call it that):
>
> Apparently, DM has accepted an explanation for the Sudden Anonoymous
> Uprising Phenomenom (Plague of those below 2.0 on Tone Scale) that
> defies all reason. Allegedly some brilliant Hubbard fanatic has
> convinced many senior Co$ that the Marcabs, the Fourth or Fifth
> Invader Fleet and the Psychos have used the Internet to take control
> of thousands of net Minions.
> These hapless victims are attacking Scientology under the direction of
> the Psychos immediate Lieutenants: ARSCC (wdne). Several current and
> formerly overtly prominent ARS Sps are deemed to be Regional Directors
> of Operations for Anonymous. These Regional directors will be targeted
> for express handling should legal efforts fail to win injunctions
> against the mass demonstrations.

It would be highly surprising if they didn't think this. It's exactly what
Hubbard taught, and what they're compelled to duplicate. Only the names and
faces associated with the evil extraterrestrial conspiracy out to destroy
Hubbard and all he stands for change somewhat over the years. The fixation
on ARS and its posters is easy to understand. They know the "Anonymous"
events are something that came from the internet. Since the only part of
the internet that they can monitor easily is ARS, and the various
"Anonymous" channels of communication aren't that accessible, that's where
the ringleaders must be. It's nothing more than the ritual rounding up of
the usual suspects.

But I'd love to hear more about any legal efforts by Scientology to win
injunctions against any future "mass demonstrations", though. You know,
real stuff happening in real courtrooms.

henri

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Feb 16, 2008, 12:14:05 AM2/16/08
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On 16 Feb 2008 06:06:32 GMT, "Piltdown Man" <pilt...@ivehaditwiththespam.sorry>
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>But I'd love to hear more about any legal efforts by Scientology to win
>injunctions against any future "mass demonstrations", though. You know,
>real stuff happening in real courtrooms.

After all, the only real reality is litigation.

Quaoar

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Feb 16, 2008, 12:56:48 AM2/16/08
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Crap. If this is indeed even remotely true, it could explain the moving
of files from the orgs. Indeed, Davie might be going to Outer Bulgravia
with the loot.

Q

Gregg Hagglund

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Feb 16, 2008, 1:24:39 AM2/16/08
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Hiya Arnie,

All joking aside....

I don't know how long I'll be around or how much time I will have to
spare.
Depends on the Criminal Cult.
I have other interests and concerns I have been developing for several
years now.

We beat them down in Toronto. The org is a shadow of its former self.
I did not manage to get the Criminal Corporation Charter yanked but I
helped block their effort to get Charity Status.( Australian Anons
might want to check out how that was done. Revokation is possible.)

No one in my family, including myself, wants me to put on the war
paint again.

I'm involved in other equally if not more important battles.

However, I can not ignore the fact that some of these new critics
willing to hit the streets look to me to be vulnerable to OSA ops and
street machinations. So I feel a moral obligation to give those who
ask, the benefit of my experience, my successes and my mistakes. Thus
they may try to carry on "Being at Cause over the ORgs" in a safe,
informed and peaceful manner.

OSA will have to accept my presence on the periphery as a minor
irritation they are just going to have grit their teeth and ignore.

Or they can attack me again, at their peril.
(I've already hinted in other posts what my response may be like.)

Locally they OSA is already convinced I have some major hand in the
Ontario Section of what they have identified as and Enemy Op.
(Probably titled grandiously as Anonymous Operation Criminal Cult
Crash.)
Either the OberGrubenFuerhers at the top will keep OSA renewed Ops
against my family and Faith reigned in or not.<shrugs> I have no
control over the severity of their paranoia or the stupidity of their
criminal actions.

I certainly won't ignore the potential to provide advice and comfort
to anyone who has the balls to oppose the Cult in a lawful manner,
masks or no.
And my family has already agreed we will not be intimidated by any
renewed OSA Domestic Terrorist tactics.

I kind of empathise now with frustration of the fictional Michael
Corleone in GF3 when he said, (referring to his enemies), "Just as I
thought I was out, they drag me back in again."

The Anons are, AFAIK well meaning, but the first response of any Orgs
OSA, when their superiors scream at them to "find the PTS at the
center and take them out", is to first give a hard look at any local
current and past "pains in the collectives ass" in their vicinity.

Watch your backs Brothers and Sisters.

Remember those long, bitter and rancorous debates here on ARS and on
Irc about how violent C0$ fanatics might get at "the end game"?

We just might find out after all.

I'm back to checking for loose bits of wire under my car like I used
to before and after the assasination attempt on HKH and me.

Gregg Hagglund SP7
WBM-Nord
Regional Master of the Mindless Minions
Ontario Director of Dirac Angestun Gesept.

Gregg Hagglund

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Feb 16, 2008, 1:30:55 AM2/16/08
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On 16 Feb 2008 06:06:32 GMT, "Piltdown Man"
<pilt...@ivehaditwiththespam.sorry> wrote:

(snip)


>
>It would be highly surprising if they didn't think this. It's exactly what
>Hubbard taught, and what they're compelled to duplicate. Only the names and
>faces associated with the evil extraterrestrial conspiracy out to destroy
>Hubbard and all he stands for change somewhat over the years. The fixation
>on ARS and its posters is easy to understand. They know the "Anonymous"
>events are something that came from the internet. Since the only part of
>the internet that they can monitor easily is ARS, and the various
>"Anonymous" channels of communication aren't that accessible, that's where
>the ringleaders must be. It's nothing more than the ritual rounding up of
>the usual suspects.
>
>But I'd love to hear more about any legal efforts by Scientology to win
>injunctions against any future "mass demonstrations", though. You know,
>real stuff happening in real courtrooms.

Up here we won't know about failed attempts because Magistrates will
just read a brief and decide not to grant an injunction.
Or the C0$ will get an injunction and they'll really let us all know
all about their victory.
Until someone challenges such an injunction.
Then you'll get some unfortunate drama

phil scott

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Feb 16, 2008, 2:44:05 AM2/16/08
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sounds like scn is going to put their dick into the meat grinder
again.... dang ..thats nasty.
I hate to see anyone suffer like that.


Phil scott

phil scott

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Feb 16, 2008, 2:50:20 AM2/16/08
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> EPIC. FUCKING. LULZ.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I thinnk as this mess unfolds epic will be an understatement.... the
cos will be pulling out all the stops...watch for the most dim witted
attempts af frame ups from then the world has ever seen..... be
careful of your words, they will be strung together from many posts to
support bogus legal claims... you will be sued even as they know its
unwinnable... the defence can coat more money than many have.

no need to put yourself in that position.....there is no law against
exposing fraud peacefully... the cos will likely run false flag
assaults on itself then spin what we type here to support a conspiracy
claim and law suit...that will most likely be the attempt.

scn has a long history of that sort of thing.


Phil scott

phil scott

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Feb 16, 2008, 3:01:05 AM2/16/08
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Tory is a marcabian fleet commander..didnt know that did you... her
mother ships are coming into orbit right now, cloaked.

this whole mess will go completely berserk shortly.

Phil scott


phil scott

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Feb 16, 2008, 3:03:18 AM2/16/08
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> John- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh NO....

phil scott

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Feb 16, 2008, 3:05:02 AM2/16/08
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On Feb 15, 6:38 pm, John Dorsay <restimula...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FTSOH wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:59:27 -0500.
> > In the Newsgroup(s): alt.religion.scientology
> > With the Message-ID: <47b6356...@news2.lightlink.com>

> > And the Organization Header: Lightlink Internet.
> > The famous author: John Dorsay <restimula...@gmail.com>.

> > Wrote on the subject: Re: Madness, Absolute Madness.:
>
> >>Gregg Hagglund wrote:
> >>> Can anyone else who still has contact or sources in Criminal Cult
> >>> confirm  OSA fanantic insiders have flipped out?
>
> >>> I have received intelligence ( if you can call it that):
>
> >>> Apparently, DM has accepted an explanation for the Sudden Anonoymous
> >>> Uprising Phenomenom (Plague of those below 2.0 on Tone Scale) that
> >>> defies all reason. Allegedly some brilliant Hubbard fanatic has
> >>> convinced many senior Co$ that  the Marcabs, the Fourth or Fifth
> >>> Invader Fleet and the Psychos have used the Internet to take control
> >>> of thousands of net Minions.
>
> >>Geez, I hope my choice of newsreader didn't give us away.
>
> >>If it did, sorry.
>
> >>John
>
> > No problems I think. We just have to use the "chair". You've got the DNA
> > from the "Ancients" don't you?
>
> I know I slipped up, but surely you can't be suggesting... I can't
> bring myself to think about it, never mind write about it.  Somebody
> throw me a lifeline before this gets out of hand.  PLEASE!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

well in that case no way in hell would anyone want to leak the captain
Bill Robertson memo's. logged at the freezone sites.

Phil Scott.

phil scott

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On Feb 15, 6:57 pm, "Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for over 10 years!"
>  It REALLY is great to read your posts again Gregg..- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

yers too.

Phil Scott

phil scott

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On Feb 15, 10:06 pm, "Piltdown Man"
<piltd...@ivehaditwiththespam.sorry> wrote:
> Gregg Hagglund <elro...@cogeco.ca> wrote...
> real stuff happening in real courtrooms.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


thats why the cos will try to spin the protests into violation of the
new laws re 'destructive speech' etc...worth looking into..

Phil Scott

4n0n...@gmail.com

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On Feb 15, 7:38 pm, Gregg Hagglund <elro...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> Can anyone else who still has contact or sources in Criminal Cult
> confirm OSA fanantic insiders have flipped out?
>
> I have received intelligence ( if you can call it that):
>
> Apparently, DM has accepted an explanation for the Sudden Anonoymous
> Uprising Phenomenom (Plague of those below 2.0 on Tone Scale) that
> defies all reason. Allegedly some brilliant Hubbard fanatic has
> convinced many senior Co$ that the Marcabs, the Fourth or Fifth
> Invader Fleet and the Psychos have used the Internet to take control
> of thousands of net Minions.
> These hapless victims are attacking Scientology under the direction of
> the Psychos immediate Lieutenants: ARSCC (wdne). Several current and
> formerly overtly prominent ARS Sps are deemed to be Regional Directors
> of Operations for Anonymous. These Regional directors will be targeted
> for express handling should legal efforts fail to win injunctions
> against the mass demonstrations.
>
> I've had this madness communicated to me from two different and
> usually reliable sources.
>
> Have they blown our cover?
>
> Gregg Hagglund SP7
> WBM-Nord
> R m3
> (Regional Master of the Mindless Minions.)

we await your orders master. plz advise. the martian fleet stands at
the ready.

Alexia Death

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Feb 16, 2008, 5:12:23 AM2/16/08
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It is UBER LULZ for anonymous!

But Gregg and others in risk of becoming targets, you stay safe! Co$,
if something happens to the critics anon respect, this entheta will
only gain power! Do not be morons.

Hartley Patterson

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Feb 16, 2008, 5:25:13 AM2/16/08
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elr...@cogeco.ca:

> Apparently, DM has accepted an explanation for the Sudden Anonoymous
> Uprising Phenomenom (Plague of those below 2.0 on Tone Scale) that
> defies all reason. Allegedly some brilliant Hubbard fanatic has
> convinced many senior Co$ that the Marcabs, the Fourth or Fifth
> Invader Fleet and the Psychos have used the Internet to take control
> of thousands of net Minions.

There was a time back in IIRC the 1970s when a rumour went round AOLA that
the 5th Invader Fleet was about to arrive.

--
Hartley Patterson
http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk
http://news-from-bree.blogspot.com

Peregrine

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Feb 16, 2008, 8:54:12 AM2/16/08
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On Feb 16, 9:38 am, Gregg Hagglund <elro...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> Can anyone else who still has contact or sources in Criminal Cult
> confirm  OSA fanantic insiders have flipped out?
>
> I have received intelligence ( if you can call it that):
>
> Apparently, DM has accepted an explanation for the Sudden Anonoymous
> Uprising Phenomenom (Plague of those below 2.0 on Tone Scale) that
> defies all reason. Allegedly some brilliant Hubbard fanatic has
> convinced many senior Co$ that  the Marcabs, the Fourth or Fifth
> Invader Fleet and the Psychos have used the Internet to take control
> of thousands of net Minions.
> These hapless victims are attacking Scientology under the direction of
> the Psychos immediate Lieutenants: ARSCC (wdne). Several current and
> formerly overtly prominent ARS Sps are deemed to be Regional Directors
> of Operations for Anonymous. These Regional directors will be targeted
> for express handling should legal efforts fail to win injunctions
> against the mass demonstrations.
>
> I've had thismadnesscommunicated to me from two different and

> usually reliable sources.
>
> Have they blown our cover?
>
> Gregg Hagglund SP7
> WBM-Nord
> R m3
> (Regional Master of the Mindless Minions.)

THIS . . . IS . . . SPARTA!11!!

(*boot*)

Peregrine (sorry, couldn't resist)

phil scott

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Feb 16, 2008, 12:18:42 PM2/16/08
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> only gain power! Do not be morons.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

too late....they already are morons.... the brainwash states 'the way
out is the way through'... accordingly scn will persist no matter
what, even in self destruct modes. for instance, at one point they
had 700 students, live in the course room every day at their 'flag
land base'....a new policy of ruthlessness occured, and they drove
that org to 20 students over a two year period...

these people are nutz.... they will screw up on the issue you
mentioned as well... the established critics will be hit again..Tory
has been more or less continuously hit since she emerged... most of
the rest of us have not been bothered in a year or so...but not
entirely, but still there are some ops....... that will ramp up
massively I think...and it will keep ramping up as the resulting bad
publicity empties the cults orgs... it will end when the cult leaders
are sent to prison.


Phil Scott


Phil Scott

phil scott

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On Feb 16, 2:25 am, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:
> elro...@cogeco.ca:

'captain bill' was running drills with staff marching in the parking
lot and the street then practiced diving under cars in case of sudden
attack..... he died nutz about 20 years later... following the
glorious leader..who died nutz 10 years earlier... hubbards source
dood, Aliester Crowley died nutz in da 60's I think... and his mentor
Madam blavasky, (who mentored many aspects of the Third Reich) was
nutz all along... the entire cluster fuck is loopy..... and self
destructive as hell also. Adolph H blew his brains out after
freezing half of his army to death in russia.....


Phil Scott

Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for over 10 years!

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Feb 16, 2008, 12:27:47 PM2/16/08
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Yes, Ive been trying to do the same,
and stay in a position of advisor FWIW.
I tried to retire fromt his effort, and then got a
call to doa syndicated radio show...and then
mortons book, and then the tom cruise video
and then anonymous...

Right at the time I was trying to walk away
from this in utter exhaustion, after 13 years,
along comes out of nowehere, well, out of
chatboards everywhere..
the best opportunity to call public attention
to the slavers dba scientlogy in years, and
we have tom cruise in meltdown mode to entertain us..

I too feel the obligation to explain
some of the stuff we have learned
one more time..

> OSA will have to accept my presence on the periphery as a minor
> irritation they are just going to have grit their teeth and ignore.
>
> Or they can attack me again, at their peril.
> (I've already hinted in other posts what my response may be like.)
>

I dunno what they are going to do.
I know the 'battle' will ebb and flow like the tide,
and after the highest incoming tide in years Feb 10th
I expect somewhat of an ebb before march 15th...


> Locally they OSA is already convinced I have some major hand in the
> Ontario Section of what they have identified as and Enemy Op.
> (Probably titled grandiously as Anonymous Operation Criminal Cult
> Crash.)

Did you get your last check from the evil nazi psychiatrists?

Mine appears to be late...

> Either the OberGrubenFuerhers at the top will keep OSA renewed Ops
> against my family and Faith reigned in or not.<shrugs> I have no
> control over the severity of their paranoia or the stupidity of their
> criminal actions.
>
> I certainly won't ignore the potential to provide advice and comfort
> to anyone who has the balls to oppose the Cult in a lawful manner,
> masks or no.
> And my family has already agreed we will not be intimidated by any
> renewed OSA Domestic Terrorist tactics.
>
> I kind of empathise now with frustration of the fictional Michael
> Corleone in GF3 when he said, (referring to his enemies), "Just as I
> thought I was out, they drag me back in again."
>

well said, I always smile, when I think of how much fun
it was to picket with your wit in Clearwater.

> The Anons are, AFAIK well meaning, but the first response of any Orgs
> OSA, when their superiors scream at them to "find the PTS at the
> center and take them out", is to first give a hard look at any local
> current and past "pains in the collectives ass" in their vicinity.
>
> Watch your backs Brothers and Sisters.


Agreed, yep, the tide will ebb before march 15th..

>
> Remember those long, bitter and rancorous debates here on ARS and on
> Irc about how violent C0$ fanatics might get at "the end game"?
>
> We just might find out after all.

You know how scientology always accuses us of their crimes?
And how they shuffle people on and off their hatepages
because they must keep telling thier members that there is only a
'handful of critics?"

There are only a handful of scientologists left..

>
> I'm back to checking for loose bits of wire under my car like I used
> to before and after the assasination attempt on HKH and me.
>

Me too, I havent had a screw driven
into my tires in a while, but Tommy Gorman reported slashed tires
a few days ago,

warmest regards
Arnie Lerma
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to get them out of scientology
before they end up here:
http://www.whyaretheydead.net

phil scott

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> .Me too, I havent had a screw driven


> into my tires in a while, but Tommy Gorman reported slashed tires
> a few days ago,


scientology can handle that :) Better keep the cat inside too, you
wouldnt want another one of those nailed to your door.

What I am expecting at this point is a major false flag attack on a
cos building or business, with dna from a picket or critic planted at
the scene, and supported by eleborate culling of posts and emails to
establish motive..... I think we can fully expect that....including
masked provocatures at the March 15th protests... or on the same day,
or later attacks elsewhere with graffiti left behind linked to that
date etc.... this would force law enforcement to investigate, and
arrest anyone that the cult could spin up 'evidence' against.

exposing the tactic in advance goes a long ways towards cutting the
balls off of it.


Phil Scott


>
> warmest regards
> Arnie Lerma
> tel 703 241 1498

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> WE COME BACK
> for our friends and family
> to get them out of scientology
> before they end up here:http://www.whyaretheydead.net
>
>
>
> > Gregg Hagglund SP7
> > WBM-Nord
> > Regional Master of the Mindless Minions

> > Ontario Director of Dirac Angestun Gesept.- Hide quoted text -
>
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> > WE COME BACK
> > for our friends and family
> > to get them out of scientology
> > before they end up here:http://www.whyaretheydead.net
>
> > > Gregg Hagglund SP7
> > > WBM-Nord
> > > Regional Master of the Mindless Minions
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Gregg, Phil, Arnie You have made my day. Keep well and most of all
keep safe.

Ida C.

"You must have crossed the river to tell the crocodile he has bad
breath"
chinese proverb

phil scott

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> > > WE COME BACK
> > > for our friends and family
> > > to get them out of scientology
> > > before they end up here:http://www.whyaretheydead.net
>
> > > > Gregg Hagglund SP7
> > > > WBM-Nord
> > > > Regional Master of the Mindless Minions
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> Gregg, Phil, Arnie  You have made my day.  Keep well and most of all
> keep safe.
>
> Ida C.
>
> "You must have crossed the river to tell the crocodile he has bad
> breath"
> chinese proverb- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Hi Ida.... Ida, this is an introduction, you to anonymous.
Anonymous meet Ida...shes 90. .. Ida meet anonymous.

Ida has been nailing this cult to the wall long before many of us
were born... and before computers became common, by hand, on the phone
and at local and regional legislatures. and has been picketing
them at der prison camp in the hills... one time her house was raided
by police looking for explosive snicker doodles.


Phiil Scott


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Oh dear, Phil I'm only 85 but holding strong :)

ida

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The truth about scientology IS stranger
than ANYTHING anyone could make up and Mr Hagglund,
the following occurred while you were on hiatus i believe you might
enjoy this one

For all alt.scientology.war history buffs:
Here is the Explosive Snickerdoodle Story:
for the entertainment of all

Keep off Mom’s Front Porch
By Arnie Lerma

Sunday, February 23, 2002


On Saturday, there was picket of Tom Cruise's old romping grounds,
Scientology's Golden Era facility in Hemet . In an effort to
intimidate participants into not picketing, an elaborate ruse was
concocted by Scientology's dirty-tricks production team, OSA, The
Office of Special Affairs, the same department of Scientology that
brought you OPERATION FREAK OUT; the 1970's set-up of author Paulette
Cooper, whose parents died in Auschwitz.

Paulette had published a book, The Scandal of Scientology.. and
Scientology was going to "MAKE IT GO RIGHT" ( The supreme test of a
Scientologist per Hubbard) to make sure you and I never read it. They
framed her so well for a bomb threat that the Federal Government spent
a great deal of money successfully prosecuting her, and doing for
Scientology what Scientology could not do for itself through 16 or
more prior lawsuits: Silence and discredit a little girl with the
heart of lion, who saw in Scientology that same sort of evil that had
killed her own parents.

It was not until 1977, years later, that the FBI and IRS raided
Scientology, carting off loads of documents. One day a document was
discovered. It was an actual copy of ONE of the plans used to frame
Ms. Cooper, which in part caused the government to pursue its
conviction with such enthusiasm. The operation was called OPERATION
FREAK OUT. Which was also an apt description of the induced mental
state of Ms. Cooper after years of civil and criminal harassment.

On Saturday, an infamous agent, employee and dirty tricks private
investigator named Edwin Richardson appeared on 79 year old Ida
Camburn's doorstep, feigning to want to make peace, so that Ms.
Camburn would not make a "cake bomb". Scientology's Richardson was
accompanied by a member of the Hemet Sheriff's office, who was not
quite sure what to make of all of this or exactly why he was there.

Well let me try to connect the dots for you in this confusing saga of
what may be multiple nested deceptions.

This elaborate frame job was based upon a February 19th posting by a
nick "A...@newsguy.com", who replied to an unremarkable posting about
possible pickets of upcoming L Ron Hubbard birthday events with this
corker: "Any[o]ne know how to safely plant a pipe bomb in a sheet
cake?"

This posting was then replied to by a nick called "Miscreant critic""
on Friday the 22nd, using an anonymous remailer service called xganon.
I am convinced that Miscreant critic is a highly placed official in
Scientology’s office to handle the Internet. His previous targets have
been those people who have survived many prior attempts to silence
them, including litigation, refused offers of a gag for money, and in
general the folks Scientology considers their biggest enemies, myself
included. "Miscreant critic" attempts to concoct an elaborate
conspiracy to physically attack Scientology using a 79 year old
grandmother in Hemet California as a base of operations. The Miscreant
posting is piece of fiction which is quite comparable to the story of
Xenu as a science fiction thriller.

The Hemet sheriff’s deputy told Ms. Camburn that he just "happened" to
be at Scientology’s base in Hemet on other business when this was
brought to his attention. The posting by "Miscreant" vanished from
many news server’s right after it was posted making it difficult to
locate, but not so difficult it wasn’t available for Edwin Richardson
to print out and conveniently show to the Sheriff, who just "happened"
to be there "on other business."

The picket, although short, did go off without incident. So what was
accomplished? At best, an elderly lady was harassed, and the Hemet
sheriff's dept was unwittingly used by Scientology to harass her in
hopes of quashing a few American Citizen’s constitutionally guaranteed
civil rights to demonstrate their outrage in front of a criminally
convicted cult of madmen that a french prosecutor asked, just last
week, be thrown out of Paris.

Will anyone care that Ms Camburn herself was deposed as a hostile
witness in one of Paulette Cooper’s cases by Scientology using the
excuse that she possessed a few copies of The Scandal of Scientology?
Will Scientology’s latest real life science fiction thriller become a
Federal case? Or will Scientology settle for possibly just a memorable
keynote speaker’s contribution to Riverside DA Grover Trask’s re-
election campaign fund. Grover Trask has already proven himself to be
Riverside county’s resident authority on Tom Cruise Missiles in his
recent theatrical starring Keith Henson, who used to picket
Scientology in Hemet.

Or do we just have another Scientology self-inflicted foot bullet of
truly epic proportions.. you see, the infamous "There's more to Ida
than meets the eye" Camburn never bakes CAKES, however she is famous
throughout the valley for her snickerdoodles... Now.. *if* their
allegations included something about a plot to launch dozens of Tom
Cruise Snickerdoodle Missiles.. Scientology might be onto something,
but like most of the efforts of the mastermind of this caper, David
Miscavige, even this nefarious plot might be easily mistaken for no
more than bird droppings.

http://www.lermanet.com/scientologyscandals/keepoffmomsfrontporch.htm


dr...@hushmail.com

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If this is true - what are they smoking and can I have some?

Alert

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On Feb 16, 5:24 pm, Gregg Hagglund <elro...@cogeco.ca> wrote:

<snipped for brevity>


> We beat them down in Toronto. The org is a shadow of its former self.
> I did not manage to get the Criminal Corporation Charter yanked but I
> helped block their effort to get Charity Status.( Australian Anons
> might want to check out how that was done. Revokation is possible.)

MOAR!!!

Links to information about this?

<more snippage>

> Gregg Hagglund SP7
> WBM-Nord
> Regional Master of the Mindless Minions
> Ontario Director of Dirac Angestun Gesept.

What is the best adhesive to stop my left ear from falling off all the
time?
This human skin keeps drying out.

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> If this is true - what are they smoking and can I have some?

i assure you, the facts ARE true,
I've got keywords in the webbed version linked to cites..

*I* couldn't make up stuff like this..

ida...@aol.com

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No Arnie , no one could make up stuff like this. I never dreamed
these
last years of my life would include a son who has "disconnected" never
to be in touch again. I have all you young sps to thank for my desire
to
keep on keeping on -each is very special to me.
I can't thank all enough for bringing the information on this devious
cult
to the public.
It is a pleasure to see the young ones step up to the plate. I also
have
wonderful grandkids and greatgrands--some coming to visit today.

banchukita

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On Feb 16, 3:01 am, phil scott <p...@philscott.net> wrote:
> On Feb 15, 5:13 pm, Ananamuss <ananam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Communo-Nazi-Marcab-Psych-Terrorist-Hacker Leaders:
>
> >  My indoctrination is wearing off, can I just rub a Bounce sheet on my
> > hair to restore that "Just Brainwashed" feeling?
>
> > Love,
>
> > Me.
>
> > lol
>
> Tory is a marcabian fleet commander..didnt know that did you... her
> mother ships are coming into orbit right now, cloaked.
>


"If you hear any noise, it's just me and the boys...hit me...ya gotta
hit the band"

-Parliament, "Mothership Connection"

anonanonanon15

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I don't know which is more hilarious and delusional - that they think
anonymous has leaders, or that we have a fleet of flying saucers
backing us up.

ANONYMOUS ARE ALIEN SPACE-TERRORISTS OMG OMG OMG

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Out_Of_The_Dark

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Remember, this is the organization that brought up the concept of
Xenu.
Bwhahahaha!!

thunderchi...@gmail.com

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On Feb 15, 8:03 pm, FTSOH <FT...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:59:27 -0500.
> In the Newsgroup(s): alt.religion.scientology
> With the Message-ID: <47b6356...@news2.lightlink.com>
> And the Organization Header: Lightlink Internet.
> The famous author: John Dorsay <restimula...@gmail.com>.
> Wrote on the subject: Re: Madness, Absolute Madness.:
>
>
>
> >Gregg Hagglund wrote:
> >> Can anyone else who still has contact or sources in Criminal Cult
> >> confirm OSA fanantic insiders have flipped out?
>
> >> I have received intelligence ( if you can call it that):
>
> >> Apparently, DM has accepted an explanation for the Sudden Anonoymous
> >> Uprising Phenomenom (Plague of those below 2.0 on Tone Scale) that
> >> defies all reason. Allegedly some brilliant Hubbard fanatic has
> >> convinced many senior Co$ that the Marcabs, the Fourth or Fifth
> >> Invader Fleet and the Psychos have used the Internet to take control
> >> of thousands of net Minions.
>
> >Geez, I hope my choice of newsreader didn't give us away.
>
> >If it did, sorry.
>
> >John
>
> No problems I think. We just have to use the "chair". You've got the DNA
> from the "Ancients" don't you?

We're getting a new shipment of drones on board the Daedalus this
week.

anonanonanon15

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And if there's one weapon that evil space-alien overlords use in their
arsenal to devastating effect, it's PEACEFUL PROTESTS FROM INTERNET
NERDS. Gahahahahaha

dr...@hushmail.com

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I always found Nibs' description of Scientomogy and his father to be
extremely accurate if this is true:

"The truth is? Well, the truth is that the truth of Scientology and L
Ron Hubbard is really so strange one could easily believe it a work of
fiction"

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On Feb 16, 4:20 pm, anonanonanon15 <anonanonano...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Seriously, we hid those a long time ago. Anymore we just use the
fembots. They are cheaper to operate, more environmentally friendly,
and are better for PR.

Feisty

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"anonanonanon15" <anonano...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3bff2f21-8134-4029...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

And a tip to gaming nerds... as fighting Dudongo's comes with "multi-sensory
stimulus"
designed to make it difficult eg..

hands on control
intense boss mode sound
intense visuals

These together are meant to cause confusion... as music can be patterned
incongruently with button press algorithms....while flashing screen colors
patterned to change. ALL these things together make the challenge harder....

So try turning the sound down or off to reduce one sensory stimulus
in the confusing boss stage...

ars game tippo supreme....(yeah you already knew that)

And if that made any sense, you will see what happens when $cientologists
enter into their programming.
It is the worst to control handles and entrancement you can imagine. Here's
the way they do it in all their books. They adjust lighting in the rooms,
and there are no flashing lights, but there are plenty of words in the books
that relate to intense stomach pain (GE?) and other bodily "suggestive
stuff"

Just so you catch an idea... to know why noone would really talk to any of
you at the DC picket. You have the advantage of knowing the programming in
*realtime* I have no idea what to name the "mode"
hypno? you decide...

http://www.lermanet.com/exit/confusion-technique.htm
L Ron Hubbard's Use of the "Confusion Technique" to Induce Hypnosis in
Scientology

The confusion technique was one of Erickson's most innovative and
important contributions to hypnosis. These verbal and nonverbal methods
created disorientation, disrupting habitual sets paving the way for enhanced
responsiveness.


Yours, in virtual reality,
Maureen

Android Cat

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FTSOH wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:48:55 -0800 (PST).
> The famous author: thunderchi...@gmail.com.
> Great, I was afraid it would be too late, and that we would have to
> evacuate through the gate...

Just so long as the Reverends (One Week Course) don't start carrying funny
staffs...

--
Ron of that ilk.

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anonymous...@googlemail.com

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SIERRA PAPA CENTRAL, SIERRA PAPA CENTRAL MAYDAY. STOP.

MY ROCKET POWERED DC8 HAS CRASH LANDED BEHIND ENEMY LINES. STOP.

HULL UNDER SUSTAINED BULLS*IT ATTACK. STOP.

SMALL CONTINGENT OF LAWYERS APPROACHING FROM SOUTH. STOP.

PLEASE ADVISE. STOP.

anonymousAltF4

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On Feb 16, 5:06 pm, "anonymousmanches...@googlemail.com"

Abort! About! We have not deployed Anti-Lawyer Devices to your sector
yet! Get out! Get out!

If you have enough fuel left in your rocket-powered DC-8s, fire up the
Emergency Civil Procedure Smokescreens and Electronic Data Discovery
Subcontractors. That should buy you enough time for a tactical retreat
win!

anonymous...@googlemail.com

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That's a negatory, Gold leader. Purged fuel in order to clear anti-
Xenu defenses. All defense systems are down. Deploying Emergency Trust
Fund - that should keep the higher-ups occupied while the lower OTs
run in circles wondering how I got here.

AtlantaA...@gmail.com

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Atlanta Anonymous approves this message.

The Badger

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On Feb 15, 7:38 pm, Gregg Hagglund <elro...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> Can anyone else who still has contact or sources in Criminal Cult
> confirm  OSA fanantic insiders have flipped out?
>
> I have received intelligence ( if you can call it that):
>
> Apparently, DM has accepted an explanation for the Sudden Anonoymous
> Uprising Phenomenom (Plague of those below 2.0 on Tone Scale) that
> defies all reason. Allegedly some brilliant Hubbard fanatic has
> convinced many senior Co$ that  the Marcabs, the Fourth or Fifth
> Invader Fleet and the Psychos have used the Internet to take control
> of thousands of net Minions.
> These hapless victims are attacking Scientology under the direction of
> the Psychos immediate Lieutenants: ARSCC (wdne). Several current and
> formerly overtly prominent ARS Sps are deemed to be Regional Directors
> of Operations for Anonymous. These Regional directors will be targeted
> for express handling should legal efforts fail to win injunctions
> against the mass demonstrations.
>
> I've had this madness communicated to me from two different and
> usually reliable sources.
>
> Have they blown our cover?
>
> Gregg Hagglund SP7
> WBM-Nord
> R m3
> (Regional Master of the Mindless Minions.)

@.x;

*twitch*

*wanders off, having found something crazier than the sceinobabble
from the Summit he's transcribing*

anonymo...@gmail.com

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On Feb 17, 12:15 pm, The Badger <StealthBad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 15, 7:38 pm, Gregg Hagglund <elro...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Can anyone else who still has contact or sources in Criminal Cult
> > confirm OSA fanantic insiders have flipped out?
>
> > I have received intelligence ( if you can call it that):
>
> > Apparently, DM has accepted an explanation for the Sudden Anonoymous
> > Uprising Phenomenom (Plague of those below 2.0 on Tone Scale) that
> > defies all reason. Allegedly some brilliant Hubbard fanatic has
> > convinced many senior Co$ that the Marcabs, the Fourth or Fifth
> > Invader Fleet and the Psychos have used the Internet to take control
> > of thousands of net Minions.
> > These hapless victims are attacking Scientology under the direction of
> > the Psychos immediate Lieutenants: ARSCC (wdne). Several current and
> > formerly overtly prominent ARS Sps are deemed to be Regional Directors
> > of Operations for Anonymous. These Regional directors will be targeted
> > for express handling should legal efforts fail to win injunctions
> > against the mass demonstrations.
>
> > I've had thismadnesscommunicated to me from two different and

> > usually reliable sources.
>
> > Have they blown our cover?
>
> > Gregg Hagglund SP7
> > WBM-Nord
> > R m3
> > (Regional Master of the Mindless Minions.)
>
> @.x;
>
> *twitch*
>
> *wanders off, having found something crazier than the sceinobabble
> from the Summit he's transcribing*

Can someone help me, I have to report to regional commander Simpson,
H. who is located in Sector 7G in Springfield, but I don't know which
state? should I contact one of the Germans to explain where I need to
go?

spam...@telus.net

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On Feb 16, 4:26 pm, "anonymousmanches...@googlemail.com"
You can deny there's any objective evidence so far of a slowdown in
the activity of spammers or OSA ops:
http://home.primus.ca/~ronsharp/circlejerk.html

You can discount all the good news implicit in posts like
'Toronto org having a shredder party?' by Android Cat
'The NEW Face of the STRESS TEST' by Dilbert Perkins
'Belgian justice prosecutes Scientology' by Hubbard_Ship_of_fools
'The original Anonymous message is BACK' by Alexia Death
or 'Tory Magoo statistics!' by Friendly Xenu.

But anyone honest has gotta admit, this place has been a LOT of fun
this week...

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