Scientology as a pokerplay
Roger Larsson
money from the believers in him he was a good pokerplayer holding his
face learning the believers in him how to hold their faces also.
Is it all what scientology is about?
It's better to point on Hubbards bad cards than to be a part in his
deal.
Roger Larsson
LaserClam
> If Ron Hubbard played with nothing making it to everything and won the
> money from the believers in him he was a good pokerplayer holding his
> face learning the believers in him how to hold their faces also.
>
Trying to prevent others
from finding out that you
are addicted to gambling?
Roger Larsson
>
> - Visa citerad text -
Trying to make a zero to a number ONE, are you?
Roger Larsson
antisectes
> On Mar 11, 3:48 am, "Roger Larsson" <exins...@tiscali.se> wrote:
>> If Ron Hubbard played with nothing making it to everything and won
>> the money from the believers in him he was a good pokerplayer
>> holding his face learning the believers in him how to hold their
>> faces also.
>>
>
>
> Trying to prevent others
> from finding out that you
> are addicted to gambling?
>
HCOB on gamers says.
banchukita
> On Mar 11, 3:48 am, "Roger Larsson" <exins...@tiscali.se> wrote:
>
> > If Ron Hubbard played with nothing making it to everything and won the
> > money from the believers in him he was a good pokerplayer holding his
> > face learning the believers in him how to hold their faces also.
>
> Trying to prevent others
> from finding out that you
> are addicted to gambling?
>
Trying to prevent others from finding out that you're addicted to
Scientology, LaserClam?
Is perhaps that why you don't use your name?
Where is "shame" on the almighty Tone Scale?
-maggie, human being
Gerry Armstrong
wrote:
Back in 2002 you posted about the Scientology cult as a poker player
and I responded then as follows:
[Quote]
This reminds me of a statement made by Los Angeles Superior Court
Judge Ronald Sohigian in a hearing in May 1992 in a case in which
Scientology sued me.
[Quote]
"The information (Gerald Armstrong's evidence) that's being suppressed
in this case (by the organization), however, is information about
extremely blame-worthy behavior of the plaintiff which nobody owns; it
is information having to do with the behavior of a high degree of
offensiveness and behavior which is meritorious in the extreme.
It involved abusing people who are weak. It involves taking advantage
of people who for one reason or another get themselves enmeshed in
this extremist view in a way that makes them unable to resist it
apparently. It involves using techniques of coercion." (5/27/92
hearing transcript at p. 107, l. 6)
"There appears to be in the history of [the organization's] behavior a
very, very substantial deviation between their conduct and standards
of ordinary, courteous conduct and standards of ordinary, honest
behavior. They're just way off in a different firmament."
"..it's the kind of behavior which makes you sort of be sure you cut
the deck and be sure you've counted all the cards. If you're having a
friendly poker game you'd make sure to count all the chips before you
dealt any cards." (5/27/92 hearing transcript at p. 108, l. 15, l. 21)
[End Quote]
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/affi-1993-02-17.html
In the poker game paradigm, Scientology, holds a bad hand and all the
other players know it's a bad hand.
Everyone knows that the cult's big bets are bluffs.
The cult's only rational play is to fold, but rationality is not how
Scientology thinks it wins.
The cult tries to buy the pot, and the rest of the players can't match
their gargantuan bets.
When everyone got in, they thought it was a table stakes game, and
according to Hoyle.
But Scientology doesn't play by the same rules; it cheats, it bullies
and it's a terrifyingly poor loser.
Almost all the would-be players can't even come up with the ante.
Most good players don't get in because if the poor losers lose they
mug the winners in the alley as soon as they try to get out with their
winnings.
A few players have sat through the whole deal. They've been cheated,
lied to, stolen from, threatened and kicked. But they've followed
Judge Sohigian's rules, learned to count the cards, cut the deck and
even count the chips. They know the poor losers hold nothing. It's all
puffery. The good guys would raise the roof if they could, but they're
all in.
They know they'll be mugged, or even shot. But they're holding three
bullets, so the poor losers can't have enough left to take them all
out. They've got half the ladies to go with the aces. And they've got
alligator blood. So they call. And sit back and wait for the showdown.
[End Quote]
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/d633562e2ab93ba8?dmode=source&hl=en
And see Judge Sohigian's comments here:
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/sohigan-hrg-1992-05-27.pdf
I think that since then more players have come up with the ante and
are in the game, e.g., South Park; the cultists are still bluffing;
the pot is bigger; and they're even worse losers now. They've been
identified as sociopaths, and everybody knows that sociopaths will do
anything to win.
From Matha Stout, PhD in *The Sociopath Next Door*:
[Quote]
Rather, [for sociopaths] the game is the thing. The prize to be won
can run the gamut from world domination to a free lunch, but it is
always the same game-controlling, making others jump, "winning."
Evidently, winning in this fashion is all that remains of
interpersonal meaning when attachment and conscience are absent.
[End Quote]
http://www.carolineletkeman.org/refund/docs/sos-6.html
And see the whole section "Ron the Sociopath :: Life is a Game:"
[Quote]
Without our primordial attachments to others, what would we be?
Evidently, we would be the players of a game, one that resembled a
giant chess match, with our fellow human beings as the rooks, the
knights, and the pawns. For this is the essence of sociopathic
behavior and desire. The only thing [the sociopath] really wants—the
only thing left—is to win.
[End Quote]
http://www.carolineletkeman.org/refund/docs/life-is-a-game.html
The solution for Miscavige, the sociopath who now runs Scientology,
since his cult can't win against players like Viacom, is to bully, mug
and win against individuals with no resources and no power to fight
back. Scientology and Miscavige haven't changed, as sociopaths almost
never change, but they've lowered their sights to the defenseless few
players they can win against.
So if you're in the game with the Scientology sociopaths, be very very
careful out there.
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
antisectes
> only thing left-is to win.
>
> [End Quote]
> http://www.carolineletkeman.org/refund/docs/life-is-a-game.html
>
> The solution for Miscavige, the sociopath who now runs Scientology,
> since his cult can't win against players like Viacom, is to bully, mug
> and win against individuals with no resources and no power to fight
> back. Scientology and Miscavige haven't changed, as sociopaths almost
> never change, but they've lowered their sights to the defenseless few
> players they can win against.
>
> So if you're in the game with the Scientology sociopaths, be very very
> careful out there.
Great one, Gerry. I had forgotten the Judge Sohigan's appreciations re
the sociopath cult!
roger
Roger Larsson
> On 10 Mar 2007 23:48:55 -0800, "Roger Larsson" <exins...@tiscali.se>
>
> And see Judge Sohigian's comments here:http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/sohigan-hrg-1992-05-27.pdf
>
> I think that since then more players have come up with the ante and
> are in the game, e.g., South Park; the cultists are still bluffing;
> the pot is bigger; and they're even worse losers now. They've been
> identified as sociopaths, and everybody knows that sociopaths will do
> anything to win.
>
> From Matha Stout, PhD in *The Sociopath Next Door*:
>
> [Quote]
>
> Rather, [for sociopaths] the game is the thing. The prize to be won
> can run the gamut from world domination to a free lunch, but it is
> always the same game-controlling, making others jump, "winning."
> Evidently, winning in this fashion is all that remains of
> interpersonal meaning when attachment and conscience are absent.
>
> [End Quote]http://www.carolineletkeman.org/refund/docs/sos-6.html
>
> And see the whole section "Ron the Sociopath :: Life is a Game:"
>
> [Quote]
>
> Without our primordial attachments to others, what would we be?
>
> Evidently, we would be the players of a game, one that resembled a
> giant chess match, with our fellow human beings as the rooks, the
> knights, and the pawns. For this is the essence of sociopathic
> only thing left-is to win.
>
> [End Quote]http://www.carolineletkeman.org/refund/docs/life-is-a-game.html
>
> The solution for Miscavige, the sociopath who now runs Scientology,
> since his cult can't win against players like Viacom, is to bully, mug
> and win against individuals with no resources and no power to fight
> back. Scientology and Miscavige haven't changed, as sociopaths almost
> never change, but they've lowered their sights to the defenseless few
> players they can win against.
>
> So if you're in the game with the Scientology sociopaths, be very very
> careful out there.
>
> © Gerry Armstronghttp://www.gerryarmstrong.org
The REAL stuff that goes on behind closed doors is complete different
than the official stuff scientologists feeds with.
Which ones works and which ones count the money?
Systems are built for the people and not for the systems.
Systems are changed from the inside.
It starts to get into politicians thick skulls.
Roger Larsson