Declaration of Gerry Armstrong executed September 5, 2005 (Corrected)
Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/decl-2005-09-05.html
DECLARATION OF GERRY ARMSTRONG
1. I, Gerry Armstrong, declare as follows.
2. Since the end of January 2004, I have lived with my
wife Caroline Letkeman in a second floor apartment at 45950 Alexander
Avenue in Chilliwack, B.C., Canada.
3. I first became aware of a man named Rene Helmer when
an invitation to an open house to be held August 27, 2004 for a
company called Techno-Cine was left at our apartment door about a week
before that date. The open house invitation, a true correct copy of
which is appended hereto as Exhibit A, identified Rene Helmer as
Techno-Cine's proprietor.
4. Techno-Cine's address is 45967 Alexander Avenue,
across the street and visible from our apartment, and in a position to
observe our apartment and our comings and goings. It's a shop or
office in a large concrete block commercial building containing
several shops and offices. Ever since Techno-Cine moved into this
address, Caroline and I have suspected that it was related to a
Scientology organization intelligence operation against us, and that
the location was chosen to facilitate our surveillance, both visual,
audio and electronic. Scientology's intelligence personnel or hired
PIs have in the past rented, leased or purchased properties for the
purpose of getting physically close to the organization's targets.
Obviously, renting, leasing or purchasing properties for the purpose
of getting close to their targets is a very desirable goal for any
intelligence network or service. I have been a high level target of
Scientology's intelligence personnel, as well as the organization's
leaders, lawyers and PIs for over 23 years. Caroline and I have been
joint targets since 2001, shortly after we met. Being high level
Scientology targets affects virtually every aspect of our lives and
produces a constant awareness of threat, which we deal with as we can.
We have been virtually without monetary resources throughout this
period, whereas Scientology has immense sums of cash available and a
global network of agents to target people like Caroline and me. We
are both targets because we discovered and exposed massive Scientology
fraud, organization-wide abuses, and criminal conspiracy. Scientology
agents have physically assaulted me on multiple occasions, attempted
several times to have me prosecuted on false criminal charges,
published defamatory materials about me internationally, threatened me
with assassination, sued me six times, and ruined many good things in
my life utterly.
5. Some time after Techno-Cine's open house, a man rapped
on our ground-level apartment door, and when I answered the door he
introduced himself as Rene Helmer. He said his reason for contacting
us was to be neighborly and tell us that someone had reported some
people trying doors in the neighborhood to break in, and he wanted to
alert us. He wanted to know if we'd observed anything suspicious, and
I told him I'd sure keep an eye open. He pointed out his office in
the building across Alexander Avenue. He said he'd been working in
Vancouver, but had visited Chilliwack, loved the area, and decided to
give it a try. He said he was in movie lighting, and built elevator
panels and other props.
6. Over the next months, Caroline and I encountered Mr.
Helmer a number of times in the vicinity of our home. Although we had
no proof then of his connection to Scientology we were always
suspicious of his intentions, so we stayed friendly in our brief
interactions with him, but did not encourage contact or any
relationship. Caroline and I felt very vulnerable and violated, and
talked about how the constant surveillance made us feel imprisoned, or
like Winston and Julia in Nineteen Eighty-Four. Following
Techno-Cine's "open house," the shop never opened, but remained closed
and blacked out.
7. Some months after my first conversation with Mr.
Helmer, he again rapped on our door and again I talked with him. He
said that he was going to be away for some days and asked me to keep
an eye on his office. He mentioned that an Owen, who rented a space a
few doors away from Mr. Helmer's office in the same building, is a
good person, but that some other people in the building were not nice
and were creating problems. I knew that Mr. Helmer was referring to
Owen Stobbe, Caroline's cousin, who has an auto detailing shop in the
building. I told Mr. Helmer that I would keep both eyes open.
8. On August 9, 2005, I received an e-mail message from
Mr. Helmer stating:
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 23:58:00 -0700
From: Rene Helmer <reneh...@technocine.com> Subject: TV Show
To: Gerry Armstrong <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org>
Organization: Rene Helmer
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527
Envelope-To: ge...@gerryarmstrong.org
Hello Gerry,
This is Rene Helmer, your neighbour from across the street.
I've wanted to talk to you for a couple of weeks now but we've not
bumped into each other for a while.
The reason for this e-mail is to let you know of my interest
in the circumstances you and Caroline find yourselves in, regarding
scientology. My neighbour in the next bay, Owen told me about this
some months ago as, it seems, your families are acquainted. I looked
into your fight with scientology, at that time, on the Internet and
was quite fascinated by what I found on your web sites.
You may recall that I mentioned to you once, that I have been
producing and directing a TV show, called Unique Endeavours, at our
local Shaw cable TV station. I've recently had thoughts on the
possibility of doing a show on the unique situation that you two are
involved in.
Initially, my thoughts for this show ran along the lines of a
David and Goliath scenario but upon looking further at elements of
your web sites, I think that this project would be better served if it
dealt with the effects of this conflict on yourselves, personally, and
how this has affected your lives.
I have a very strong interest in this matter but I'm also
aware of your personal concerns for your security and privacy and I
don't mean to jeopardize or to infringe on these concerns. I do feel
that this subject could provide a very interesting program and I can
look into other outlets for the show, in the event that it may be to
"risquéé" for Shaw although I have spoken to the the Shaw Cable
Manager about your storey. Please advise me of your thoughts on this
idea. I would be pleased to meet you, to go over any questions or
concerns you may have. You can best reach me on my cell phone at (604)
791-8858.
My best regards, Rene
Mr. Helmer in fact had never previously mentioned that he was
producing or directing a TV show, or anything about "Unique
Endeavours." This e-mail message radically increased Caroline's and my
certainty that Mr. Helmer was working for the Scientology
organization.
9. On August 11, 2005 I sent Mr. Helmer an e-mail reply
stating:
Hi Rene
Wow! Let's connect up after this weekend and talk about your
ideas. Caroline and I have a full plate through Monday. We're really
interested the possibilities, so we're looking forward to chatting
with you.
Sincerely,
Gerry & Caroline
10. On August 11, I received an e-mail message from Mr.
Helmer stating:
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:58:56 -0700
From: Rene Helmer <reneh...@technocine.com>
Subject: Re: TV Show
To: Gerry Armstrong <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org>
Organization: Rene Helmer
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527
Envelope-To: ge...@gerryarmstrong.org
Hello Gerry and Caroline,
That's great! I'm busy on Monday all day and, possibly,
Tuesday as well. Call me and tell me where and when. (604) 791-8858. I
look forward to chatting as well.
Yours, Rene
11. Caroline and I did a cursory Internet search for "Rene
Helmer," and found a short biography on the Chilliwack Players Guild
web site stating that he had started volunteering for the Guild in
September 2004. A true and correct copy of a printout of the Players
Guild web page, which also contains a photograph of the person who had
identified himself to me as Rene Helmer, is attached hereto as Exhibit
B.
12. After some telephone calls between Mr. Helmer and me,
Caroline and I met with him at his request on August 23 in the lounge
at the Rhombus Hotel in Chilliwack. We sat at a table outside on a
deck beside Salish Pond, a shallow man-made acre or so of water, and
we drank beer and talked for several minutes. Caroline and I had Old
Yale IPA, Mr. Helmer had a couple of Coronas, I believe with a slice.
He said that he had done other interviews or shoots at that spot. I
suspected that Mr. Helmer had set up the meeting there so he or
whoever else he was working with could secretly record us. He told us
he had brought video equipment with him in case the meeting developed
that way, and he showed us what appeared to be a video camera case on
the floor beside him.
13. Very early in the conversation, I asked him about his
relationship with Scientology. He said that he had been involved in
the 1970's, and mentioned specifically 1975. Before this, Mr. Helmer
had never said anything about a connection to Scientology in any of
our communications. My relationship with Scientology forces me to ask
any people who seek to have a relationship with me about any
relationship they have with Scientology. Mr. Helmer said he had even
worked for the GO back then, doing volunteer work in PR. I asked him
where he had been working for the organization and he said Ottawa and
Toronto. He protested that it was all so long ago, he could hardly
remember anything. The one thing he remembered was a time he was sent
to get carbon paper late at night after all the stores were closed,
because the GO's reports had to be typed with multiple carbon copies,
and they didn't have any. He said, as if searching his memory, that
they had a term for that in Scientology. I volunteered, "Making it go
right," and he said that that was it, and we all laughed. I asked him
who the head of the GO in Canada was then, and he said he couldn't
remember. I asked about Ray and Hilarie Rockl, two Scientologists I'd
known in Vancouver in 1969 and 1970, and who became top officials
within the GO in Canada, and Mr. Helmer gave a noncommittal answer,
which I didn't ask him to clarify. The GO was the "Guardian's
Office," Scientology's arm that during the 1960's and 70's waged its
offensive war against "enemies," on PR, legal and intelligence
channels. Shortly after present Scientology head David Miscavige took
over the Guardian's Office in the early 1980's, he restructured the
unit controlling organization PR, legal and intelligence activities
and incorporated it as Religious Technology Center (RTC). Miscavige
holds the position in RTC of Chairman of the Board. RTC's central
control of PR, legal and intelligence activities within the entire
Scientology enterprise is effectuated through the Office of Special
Affairs (OSA). OSA personnel are posted in every Scientology
"Church"around the world including the Vancouver organization.
14. Because Mr. Helmer had already told me months ago that
he had moved from Vancouver to Chilliwack to set up Techno-Cine, I
asked him if he had also been at the Vancouver Scientology
organization. He said that he had, and then a few moments later
appeared to have a sudden realization, and stated that he was pretty
sure that he had known Caroline in Vancouver. She had gotten into
Scientology in Vancouver in 1975, but didn't have a clear memory of
Mr. Helmer in the Vancouver organization at that time.
15. I asked him how far he had gotten up the "Bridge,"
which is what Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard called, and
Scientologists call, the organization's "Classification, Gradation and
Awareness Chart." The chart lists about 30 grades or levels of
ability that Hubbard and the organization promised and sold to their
customers. The grades or levels proceed upward from ordinary human
beings or Homo sapiens, which Scientologists call "wogs," through
"Clear," which Scientologists teach is a new superior race called
"Homo novis," to the state of "Operating Thetan" or "OT, a state of
staggering intellect, super powers and total freedom. Mr. Helmer said
that he had had about five or six "intensives," which are twelve and a
half hour blocks of Scientology's "auditing," the costly psychotherapy
by which Scientologists move "up the Bridge." Mr. Helmer thus claimed
he'd had a total of about seventy-five hours of auditing, whereas, by
way of comparison, I had something over a thousand hours of auditing
during the 1970's. I asked him why he had left Scientology and he
said that he couldn't stand being regimented the way the organization
demanded, that he'd been in the military before Scientology and had
had enough of that kind of control. The impression Mr. Helmer
conveyed in all he said was that his relationship with Scientology
ended in the 1970's and that thereafter he had no further relationship
with the organization.
16. Caroline, I believe, said something about the
"Suppressive Person"doctrine, or "SP" doctrine, which is integral to
all of Scientology, and Mr. Helmer appeared to not understand the
concept. He then said that he had been to our web site, referring to
the Suppressive Person Defense League (SPDL) web site, found at
http://www.suppressiveperson.org/, but said that he had not understood
what it said. He appeared much more interested in the concept in
Scientology that founder Hubbard called "Fair Game." This is the
principle, policies and practices governing the organization's war on
its "enemies" such as Caroline and I. Scientology has been playing a
semantic game in the legal arena and in the media for almost forty
years, even as it fair games its enemies, claiming that "Fair Game"
was "cancelled." My experiences with Scientology prove that Fair Game
is still the way the organization prosecutes its war, and that the
claimed cancellation of Fair Game is a fraud. Mr. Helmer referred to
Fair Game as if it was a term he didn't know, but which he had found
on my web site as if I invented it. I told him a little bit of what I
knew about the subject.
17. Mr. Helmer called the show he had in mind for Caroline
and me a "human interest story," a term he used a number of times. I
didn't push Mr. Helmer to define "human interest," or to provide any
specifics or details of his idea for the videotaping. He simply
repeated what he'd said in his first e-mail message, that he wanted to
focus on the effects of our battle with Scientology on our personal
lives. He said that we seem like pretty happy people, and that we
smiled and laughed a lot. I assured him that under our happy demeanor
we were very concerned, and we felt extremely vulnerable to
Scientology covert or even violent ops. I said that even though one
operative may be a decent person, and may even have been put in place
because he is a decent person, and merely reports back to his handlers
about his target's movements, he has no control over what evil his
handlers will do with his information.
18. Mr. Helmer said that Shaw Cable, which he had
mentioned in his first e-mail message he'd talked to about Caroline's
and my story, would not be involved in the project because Scientology
is too controversial. He said he had discussed us, and his human
interest story idea about us with a Bruce Atkinson, the manager at
Shaw in Chilliwack, and that it was Mr. Atkinson who said that
Scientology is too controversial. Mr. Helmer said that he also has a
contact in public relations in Edmonton with whom he discussed the
project, and that this guy was interested and could be a connection to
a number of media outlets.
19. I brought up my legal situation with Scientology, and
Mr. Helmer said that he is not trained in legal and had not read all
the documents relating to my legal battles, but saw they were
extensive. He said that his lack of understanding of legal documents
is a reason why he wants to do a human interest story. Nevertheless,
I did sketch out my legal situation for him. I explained that the
Scientology cultists are trying to enforce a contract that they got by
threat and fraud, and which requires that every time I mention this
"religion," such as the coversation I was having right there with him,
I pay them fifty thousand dollars. I said that meanwhile the
organization runs intel ops on us, black PRs us around the world, and
threatens our existence. "Black PR" is the term Hubbard used for
Scientology's policy and practice of destroying a target's
credibility, reputation, relationships, livelihood and life with the
organized, broad and relentless overt and covert dissemination of
defamatory material about the target. I told Mr. Helmer that the
Scientologists are also still trying to get me jailed for nothing more
than defending myself against their attacks and relating my religious
experiences and beliefs. I explained that Scientology had filed an
appeal from a judgment in California, and that oral argument in the
Court of Appeal in San Francisco would be probably in late September.
I said there very well may be a media flurry around the time, and
suggested that perhaps the timing could be good for Mr. Helmer's
project. I said that I would send him the URLs for the legal
documents I thought he should read to understand how my legal
situation could relate to the project he proposed.
20. I asked Mr. Helmer about ownership of the video he
wanted to shoot of us and he said that he would own it. I asked him
if he had any release for me to sign and he said he didn't. I asked
him if he had a lawyer who could prepare any needed documents and he
said he didn't. I was very aware that Scientology could edit or alter
video footage of me, which the organization has done in the past, to
attack or defame me in litigation and in the media. I was also aware
that Mr. Helmer was very happy to lie to entrap us, and would probably
lie just as happily under oath to harm us in the legal arena. I was
also concerned that through Mr. Helmer Scientology could make some
claim of ownership of my story, and thus create a "legal" right to tie
me up in intellectual property litigation, suppress my story, and
prevent it from being told at all. I am aware that my story has
considerable commercial value, as well as immeasurable value as pure
religious expression and as physical defense.
21. We parted with the agreement that Mr. Helmer would
next contact his friend in PR in Edmonton to see what real interest
there was, and would write up some questions for us to think about.
The next step I would take would be to send Mr. Helmer the URLs for
the legal documents I thought he should read and understand.
22. Following our meeting with Mr. Helmer, Caroline and I
did an Internet Whois search for the technocine.com domain. The Whois
search result, a true and correct copy of the printout of which is
appended hereto as Exhibit C, gave the address of the domain
registrant as 11519 - 142nd Str., Surrey, B.C. V3R 3L2, Canada. The
search result also listed the administrative contact as "Philip
Helmer" at the same address, with phone number 604-582-0193, and
e-mail address hel...@direct.ca.
23. We did an Internet search for the name "Philip
Helmer," and "Phil Helmer,"and found that a Phil Helmer of Vancouver
is listed as Scientology Clear No. 12,273 in a webbed organization
publication "The Auditor" from April 1979. We found a Phil Helmer
listed as having been on board the Scientology ship "Freewinds" in
1989 during her maiden voyage, and having completed a course on board
called the "Route to Infinity Course." We found a Phil R. Helmer
listed as a "Sponsor" of the International Association of
Scientologists (IAS) in a webbed organization publication "Impact" in
1998, and listed as an IAS "Crusader" in "Impact" in 2000. A Sponsor
is a person who donates five thousand dollars to the IAS, and a
Crusader donates ten thousand dollars. One of the functions of the
IAS is to fund legal and extra-legal attacks on Scientology's victims
and targets such as Caroline and I.
24. Caroline and I did an Internet search for the address
of Philip Helmer as administrative contact for Techno-Cine, "11519 -
142nd Str., Surrey, B.C. V3R 3L2," and discovered it in a listing for
Robert and Gail Spick in the webbed 2001 World Institute of
Scientology Enterprises (WISE) Directory, which states:
Robert and Gail Spick
Conco Electrical
11519 142nd St.
Surrey, BC V3R 3L2
Canada
Tel. (1) 604-582-1948
Training
Another entry in the webbed 2001 WISE Directory for Conco states:
Ray and Hilarie Rockl
Conco Electrical Services
125 -1085 East Kent Ave.
Vancouver, BC V5X 4V9
Canada
Tel (1) 604-322-5734
Electricians
The Surrey address also appears in the webbed 2004 WISE Director in a
listing which states:
Robert Spick
Robert Spick & Associates
11519 142nd St.
Surrey, BC V3R 3L2
Canada
Tel +1 604-582-1948
Consultants
Another entry in the webbed 2004 WISE Directory states:
Ray & Hilarie RockI
Conco Electrical Services
123 - 1085 East Kent Ave.
Vancouver, BC V5X 4V9
Canada
Tel +1 604-322-5734
Electricians
WISE is a component of the Scientology enterprise that exerts
organization control in commercial companies run by Scientologists,
requires fees from these companies, and uses them to spread
Scientology "technology" and influence in the commercial realm.
25. An Internet search for "Robert Spick" showed that he
was on board the "Freewinds" in 1999 and did a course called the
"Freewinds OT Bridge Consultant Course;" and that in 2002 he was
audited at Scientology's Clearwater, Florida base and attained the
grade called "ARC Straightwire Expanded."
26. An Internet search for "Gail Spick" obtained only the
2001 WISE Directory listing, but a search for "Gale Spick" showed that
she was on board the "Freewinds" in 2000 and did the "Route to
Infinity Course;" that in 2001 she is listed in Scientology's webbed
publication "Impact" as an IAS "Crusader;" that she is currently a
director of Scientology's Heritage 3r's School Society; and that she
is Scientology's contact for its ongoing "World Literacy Crusade."
27. An Internet search for "Ray Rockl"and "Raymond Rockl"
showed that he was listed on the IAS "Honor Roll" in 1991, meaning he
had donated twenty thousand dollars or had gotten twenty people to
each donate to the IAS; that he did the "State of Man Congress Course"
on the "Freewinds" in 1999; that he did the "Responsibility and the
State of OT" on the "Freewinds" in 2000; that he did the "Command of
Theta Course"and "New OT VIII - Truth Revealed" on the "Freewinds" in
2003; and that he is listed in Scientology's webbed publication
"Cornerstone Newsletter" in July 2004 as a "Cornerstone Club Member,"
meaning he had donated thirty-five thousand dollars to the building
fund for Scientology's "Super Power Building" in Clearwater, Florida;
28. An Internet search for "Hilarie Rockl"showed that she
was listed as an IAS "Sponsor" in 1993; that she did the "Saint Hill
Special Briefing Course"at the Clearwater Scientology base in 1996;
that she did the "Solo Auditor Certainty Course" in Clearwater in
1997; that she did the "State of Man Congress Course" on the
"Freewinds" in 1999; that she did the "Responsibility and the State of
OT" on the "Freewinds" in 2000; that she did the "Command of Theta
Course" on the "Freewinds" in 2003; and that she is currently listed
as the WISE "Charter Committee" representative in Vancouver, meaning
she has an investigatory and supervisory role in WISE businesses.
29. On August 25, I sent Mr. Helmer an e-mail message
stating:
Hi Rene
Quite a preliminary meeting! Old Yale IPA I think is the only
wonder still standing out of the Big Seven.
I'd suggest these documents for understanding our legal
situation
1. 1984 LA Superior Court decision.
http//www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a1/breckenridge-decision.html
2. The 1986 "contract" with the cult that has been the
subject of five enforcement lawsuits.
http//www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a1/mutual-release-1986.html
3. My respondent's brief and opposition to writ petition, both
filed in the appeal Scientology took from the 2004 Marin County
judgment.
http//www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a7/appeal/respondents-brief-2004-12-01.html
http//www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a7/appeal/opp-writ.html
You should be aware of potential enforcement of the "contract"
against you. And you should know what my position regarding the
"contract" and my lawful rights is as stated in my two appellate
briefs. I'm obviously not a lawyer, so the language is pretty simple.
Hope this helps.
Best.
Gerry & Caroline
30. On August 27, I received an e-mail response from Mr.
Helmer stating:
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 19:45:46 -0700
From: Rene Helmer <reneh...@technocine.com>
Subject: Re: Docs
To: Gerry Armstrong <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org>
Organization: Rene Helmer
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527
Envelope-To: ge...@gerryarmstrong.org
Hello Gerry & Caroline,
Thank you for the information. I just arrived back in the
"Wack" and will go over this. Your caution is noted and thank you.
I'll call you on Sunday morning to see if we can't get together, even
briefly. My out of town work was much more extensive than I thought so
I apologize for the last minute re-contact.
Regards, Rene
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Armstrong"
<ge...@gerryarmstrong.org>
To: <reneh...@technocine.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:31 AM
Subject: Docs
31. Mr. Helmer and I spoke on Sunday morning, August 28,
and agreed to meet for coffee. He suggested the Starbucks shop in
downtown Chilliwack, and Caroline and I met him there as he requested.
After some small talk about his weekend in Victoria, B.C.and having
high tea at the Empress Hotel and how much he loved it, I mentioned
he'd said he wanted to get together even if briefly, and asked him
what news he had. He said he'd spoken with his contact in Edmonton,
who is in PR but has connections to major media, and his contact had
said that the reason media weren't touching Scientology stories, and
we were having so much trouble getting our story told, was because the
media is bored with anything to do with Scientology. He said
something about our being concerned about why media weren't touching
Scientology stories and us wondering why, neither of which facts were
true at all. I told Mr. Helmer that he may have already mentioned the
name of his contact in Edmonton, but in any case could he tell me
again, and he said "Ed Burton." I confirmed with Mr. Helmer that it
was Mr. Burton who said that the media were bored with Scientology,
and confirmed that that was what Mr. Burton said.
32. Mr. Helmer said that what Mr. Burton and he agreed to
was to make a "teaser," not the full production but a sample of what
we would say. He said that Mr. Burton would take a look at the
teaser, and if he was interested he'd send a professional crew to do
the show and that Mr. Helmer would be out of the picture. He said
that he had a list of questions and held out a sheet of paper with a
list on it. I was concerned about putting my fingerprints on the
paper, but Caroline accepted the paper from him. Glancing at the
questions, Caroline said they were for me, and I took the paper from
her. I read the questions, and then motioned to put the list in the
folder I was carrying. Mr. Helmer reached for the paper and indicated
that I couldn't keep it, but took it from me, folded it and stuck it
in his dayplanner. He said that he would e-mail the questions to me,
and he said that we could add any questions we wanted.
33. Mr. Helmer said at one point that the question that
comes to his mind is, "Why if we're afraid of Scientology why do we
have our address and phone number on the Internet?" He said that Mr.
Burton asked the same thing, and he repeated the question. I
explained that because of my legal situation with the Scientology cult
I must have an address that is public, and we do not have the
resources to drop out of sight beyond where Scientology can easily
look and find us. I told him that it's an intelligence decision as
much as anything, and having our address and phone number known or
unknown makes us equally vulnerable, and that it is as scary as hell
knowing that even though our address is known the people running
Scientology still want to watch our comings and goings and still mean
us harm. I said that the threat would only end when David Miscavige
is sitting where Mr. Helmer was sitting.
34. He said that he had not read the legal documents I
referred him to, and grimaced something about reading legal documents
made him crazy. He said that his motivation was to make a little money
and maybe make a name for himself. He said he had no axe to grind,
seeming to imply that Caroline and I did. We parted with the
understanding we'd be in touch and Mr. Helmer would send the
questions.
35. On August 29, Mr. Helmer sent me an e-mail message
stating:
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:40:25 -0700
From: Rene Helmer <reneh...@technocine.com>
Subject: Questions
To: Gerry Armstrong <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org>
Organization: Rene Helmer
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527
Envelope-To: ge...@gerryarmstrong.org
Hi Gerry and Caroline,
Here's the questions I promised you. Please feel free to come
up with some of your own for this "teaser".
As I mentioned to you, I'm out of Chilliwack for a couple of
days and hope to be back Wednesday or, at the latest, Thursday. I'd
like to shoot the teaser on Thursday or Friday, if that suits your
schedule. I'll call you from Vancouver when I'm more sure of my
schedule.
Have a good week.
Best, Rene
36. Attached to Mr. Helmer's e-mail message was a document
entitled "Questions" listing the following seventeen:
What was your background prior to scientology? There's reference to
UBC.
How long were you involved and what prompted you to leave that group?
What were the effects of belonging to the group in relationships with
your parents?
What other personal costs were there?
Has there been any effects regarding employment?
How do you support yourselves and your activities?
Do you find your Christian faith supports you through the difficulties
you experience?
When were you married?
What have been the monetary costs in your legal battles with
scientology?
Are there any court judgements against you in Canada?
What attempts have been made on your life?
Have there been any problems for you here in Chilliwack?
What other security concerns do you have?
Why are your names, address and telephone number posted on the
Internet?
Do you believe that your efforts are having an effect on scientology?
What do you see yourself doing in the future? What would you be doing
if not this?
Do you and Caroline create and maintain your web sites?
37. On August 31, Mr. Helmer left a message on our
telephone answering machine stating:
Hi folks, it's ah, Rene Helmer calling here. It's about ah,
10, almost 10:30 Wednesday morning.
I just wanted to touch base. I've uh, Im in some unfortunate
circumstances. I'm going to have to delay our shoot until next week.
Um, just this project's taking a little more than we thought here. If
this poses a problem or you got any questions please feel free to give
me a call. Um, we'll work something else out. My apologies, I try not
to do this but ah give me a call soon as --
Talk to you later Bye bye.
38. Mr. Helmer and I have spoken by telephone over the
past few days and have agreed to meet this afternoon at 4:00 P.M. in
the Rhombus Lounge. I expect to give Mr. Helmer a copy of this
declaration at that time.
I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true
and correct.
Executed this fifth day of September, 2005 in Chilliwack, B.C.
____________________________
Gerry Armstrong
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
Zinj
ge...@gerryarmstrong.org says...
> Webbed with links to exhibits at:
> http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/decl-2005-09-05.html
<snip>
Not that there's any real question as to Mr. Helmer's covertly hostile
evil porpoises, but, just as a commentary on the essential lack of
imagination, arrogance and sheer infantile stupidity common in the
'Church' of Scientology's 'Office of Special Affairs':
As a 'covert' name for their phony business, they choose *Techno-Cine*;
despite the Rondroidedly programmatic obsession with not only 'Tech' in
Scientology, but the term 'Scene'.
No matter *how* you spell it.
Zinj
Gerry Armstrong
Whois for technocine.com indicates the domain was registered April 23,
2000, so Mr. Helmer was almost certainly operating as Techno-Cine
before Caroline and I arrived back in Chilliwack in early 2004.
"Cine," pronounced "sinny" inside, was the name Hubbard gave to
organization he started in 1977-78 to shoot his "tech films."
The word is in the "Admin Dictionary" which was printed in 1976, but
it really became widely used when the shoots started at the La Quinta
base.
Notice how the word is used in this ethics order from La Quinta in
1978:
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cult/findings-recs-1978-10-04.html
But yes, right away the name "Techno-Cine" sent me tracking.
Here's a pic on our what's new page of Mr. Helmer from yesterday's
meeting :
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/new.html
>
>No matter *how* you spell it.
>
>Zinj
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
Tilman Hausherr
<ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>Here's a pic on our what's new page of Mr. Helmer from yesterday's
>meeting :
>http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/new.html
Wow, so you have a pic of him, but he (hopefully) has no footage of you
:)
This "op" surprises me somewhat, because I thought that there's a
post-GO policy telling to outsource the "wet" operations. This policy
was also not respected in the Autobahn photo "op".
Tilman
--
Tilman Hausherr [SP5.55] Entheta * Enturbulation * Entertainment
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/scientology_ger.html
Cerridwen
>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 16:51:36 GMT, Gerry Armstrong
><ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>
>>Here's a pic on our what's new page of Mr. Helmer from yesterday's
>>meeting :
>>http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/new.html
>
>Wow, so you have a pic of him, but he (hopefully) has no footage of you
>:)
>
>This "op" surprises me somewhat, because I thought that there's a
>post-GO policy telling to outsource the "wet" operations. This policy
>was also not respected in the Autobahn photo "op".
This "op" shows how absolutely clueless OSA really is.
Only a few OSA staff may have access to the internet and probably only
a handful know that Kristi's site and google archives are a wealth of
information on people who have been on Scn's lines.
Apparently, someone dreamed up this "op" without having the information
that Gerry could easy blow this op's cover by simply doing a google
search.
I vote that whoever approved this "op" against Gerry, be awarded the
Stupid Cult Moron of the Month Award.
Cerridwen
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/
So much entheta, so little time.
Mike Gormez
<q2irh1pnvvtsdo72u...@4ax.com>:
>Here's a pic on our what's new page of Mr. Helmer from yesterday's
>meeting :
>http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/new.html
Was this before or after you gave him your declaration?
--
Mike Gormez
- World Institute of Scientology Enterprises (WISE) - www.stop-wise.biz
- www.whyaretheydead.net - Why Are They Dead, Scientology?
- Child abuse and neglect by scientologists www.taxexemptchildabuse.net
- www.psychassualt.org - Scientology hatred of mental health (CCHR)
Keith Henson
Up to Sept 19, 2004, the address on Technocine's web site was:
Unit # 123 - 1085 E. Kent Ave. Vancouver B.C., Canada V5X 4V9. Tel
(604) 803-3787,
"The phone number "(604) 803-3787" is a Vancouver, BC based phone
number and the registered carrier is TELUS Mobility."
Fax (604) 322 5791, e-mail hel...@direct.ca, web-site
www.technocine.com
"The phone number "(604) 322-5791" is a Vancouver, BC based phone
number and the registered carrier is TELUS"
Not much from these phone numbers but Gerry turned up the WISE
directory for this address
Ray and Hilarie Rockl
Conco Electrical Services
125 -1085 East Kent Ave.
Vancouver, BC V5X 4V9
Canada
Tel (1) 604-322-5734
Electricians
Charter Committees
Hilarie Rockl
Charter Committee of Vancouver
123 - 1085 East Kent Ave.
Vancouver, BC V5X 4V9
Canada
Tel. +1 604-322-5734
Electricians
Ray & Hilarie RockI
Conco Electrical Services
123 - 1085 East Kent Ave.
Vancouver, BC V5X 4V9
Canada
Tel +1 604-322-5734
Google for the 5734 number gives this
BC Electricians List of
... Clay Electric Ltd, 4256 Dunbar St, Vancouver, (604) 732-8544,
Conco Contracting
Ltd, 1085 E Kent Ave South, Vancouver, (604) 322-5734, (604) 322-5791.
...
www.bcelectrician.com/contvanburn.htm - 101k - Supplemental Result -
Cached - Similar pages
where the (604) 322-5791 number is their fax.
And guess where *that* leads
Narconon Canada: Residential Drug Rehabilitation
Fax: (604) 322-5791 Email: in...@narconon-vancouver.org Website:
www.narconon-vancouver.org Website: www.youthaddiction.com ...
www.scientology.org/en_US/world/betterment/narconon/locations/canada.html
- 38k - Cached - Similar pages
and many other pages. These are people *seriously* into scientology
and its various front organizations. There is a WISE roofing outfit
in there as well, and another next door. It might as well be the
local org.
Helmer was using the Word 97 to generate his web site back as far as I
can see (2003). His business of elevator panels for movie sets went
back that far. The lights and other items were added when he changed
his site to point to the new address across the street from Gerry.
In spite of a local org using the materials at hand there are other
indications that the orders for this op against Gerry came down from
the top. There may be interesting consequences.
Keith Henson
Gerry Armstrong
>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005, Tilman Hausherr <tilman...@snafu.de> wrote:
>>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 16:51:36 GMT, Gerry Armstrong
>><ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Here's a pic on our what's new page of Mr. Helmer from yesterday's
>>>meeting :
>>>http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/new.html
>>
>>Wow, so you have a pic of him, but he (hopefully) has no footage of you
>>:)
>>
>>This "op" surprises me somewhat, because I thought that there's a
>>post-GO policy telling to outsource the "wet" operations. This policy
>>was also not respected in the Autobahn photo "op".
>
>This "op" shows how absolutely clueless OSA really is.
No it does not.
>
>Only a few OSA staff may have access to the internet
What?
>and probably only
>a handful know that Kristi's site and google archives are a wealth of
>information on people who have been on Scn's lines.
What?
>
>Apparently, someone dreamed up this "op" without having the information
>that Gerry could easy blow this op's cover by simply doing a google
>search.
Highly unlikely.
>
>I vote that whoever approved this "op" against Gerry, be awarded the
>Stupid Cult Moron of the Month Award.
We don't know what the op was or where it ends for awards to be
awarded at the local level, but this was and continues to be a David
Miscavige op. He is responsible for approving the approvals and the
approvers for every act against me and against other wogs in my
position.
So, how about if DM gets the Stupid Cult Moron of the Month Award? I
hadn't known of the award, but if it exists then I'd vote for DM.
In fact I'd vote that he be awarded the Stupid Cult Moron of the
Millennium Award. All those bean counters and no crop. Nothing to go
with the rice.
No matter what this is -- and I believe that Rene Helmer was a dummy
op and that channels and ops are still in place and that OSA is not
really absolutely clueless as you say -- Miscavige is responsible, and
Miscavige can end the threat.
In the meantime, although the Helmer Play may even have had a pt of
documenting just how safe I was and that my concerns were completely
unfounded, it has done no such thing and only kept my concerns
elevated and added some. The cult's liability has only increased.
Miscavige still hasn't called.
Saying that only a few OSA staff may have access to the Internet to me
is like saying only a few FBI staff may have access to the Internet.
Somebody might believe it, but someone who is a target of the FBI or
OSA is not going to believe it. The FBI and OSA would want their
targets to believe it, but to actually believe it the targets would
have to be as you say absolutely clueless.
>
>
>Cerridwen
>
>http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/
>
>So much entheta, so little time.
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
Gerry Armstrong
wrote:
>On 6 Sep 2005 19:55:38 -0000, Cerridwen <noad...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005, Tilman Hausherr <tilman...@snafu.de> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 16:51:36 GMT, Gerry Armstrong
>>><ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Here's a pic on our what's new page of Mr. Helmer from yesterday's
>>>>meeting :
>>>>http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/new.html
>>>
>>>Wow, so you have a pic of him, but he (hopefully) has no footage of you
>>>:)
>>>
>>>This "op" surprises me somewhat, because I thought that there's a
>>>post-GO policy telling to outsource the "wet" operations. This policy
>>>was also not respected in the Autobahn photo "op".
>>
>>This "op" shows how absolutely clueless OSA really is.
>>
>>Only a few OSA staff may have access to the internet and probably only
>>a handful know that Kristi's site and google archives are a wealth of
>>information on people who have been on Scn's lines.
>>
>>Apparently, someone dreamed up this "op" without having the information
>>that Gerry could easy blow this op's cover by simply doing a google
>>search.
>>
>>I vote that whoever approved this "op" against Gerry, be awarded the
>>Stupid Cult Moron of the Month Award.
>
>Up to Sept 19, 2004, the address on Technocine's web site was:
>
>Unit # 123 - 1085 E. Kent Ave. Vancouver B.C., Canada V5X 4V9. Tel
>(604) 803-3787,
I missed this Keith. Thanks.
Wow! Does this mean Techno-Cine is a WISE Company? I mean would the
Charter Committee have a company in their very presence that is not a
WISE Company?
I'd guess Techno-Cine is on the invisible ink side of the WISE
Directory.
Correct. This is the Vancouver Scientology scene.
>
>Helmer was using the Word 97 to generate his web site back as far as I
>can see (2003). His business of elevator panels for movie sets went
>back that far. The lights and other items were added when he changed
>his site to point to the new address across the street from Gerry.
>
>In spite of a local org using the materials at hand there are other
>indications that the orders for this op against Gerry came down from
>the top.
There is no doubt. Miscavige has had his hands on hands hands on on
this op, and in fact every act against me since 1981.
> There may be interesting consequences.
See, you're a prophet too.
>
>Keith Henson
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
Cerridwen
>On 6 Sep 2005 19:55:38 -0000, Cerridwen <noad...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>This "op" shows how absolutely clueless OSA really is.
>
>No it does not.
I disagree.
>
>>
>>Only a few OSA staff may have access to the internet
>
>What?
Only a few OSA staff may have access to the internet.
>
>>and probably only
>>a handful know that Kristi's site and google archives are a wealth of
>>information on people who have been on Scn's lines.
>
>What?
and probably only a handful know that Kristi's site and google archives
are a wealth of information on people who have been on Scn's lines.
>
>>
>>Apparently, someone dreamed up this "op" without having the information
>>that Gerry could easy blow this op's cover by simply doing a google
>>search.
>
>Highly unlikely.
I disagree. How else can you explain how easily you exposed this op.
You think they wanted you to expose it?
>
>>
>>I vote that whoever approved this "op" against Gerry, be awarded the
>>Stupid Cult Moron of the Month Award.
>
>We don't know what the op was or where it ends for awards to be
>awarded at the local level, but this was and continues to be a David
>Miscavige op. He is responsible for approving the approvals and the
>approvers for every act against me and against other wogs in my
>position.
I suppose that's possible.
>
>So, how about if DM gets the Stupid Cult Moron of the Month Award? I
>hadn't known of the award, but if it exists then I'd vote for DM.
I'll vote for him as well.
>
>In fact I'd vote that he be awarded the Stupid Cult Moron of the
>Millennium Award. All those bean counters and no crop. Nothing to go
>with the rice.
Sounds good to me.
>
>No matter what this is -- and I believe that Rene Helmer was a dummy
>op and that channels and ops are still in place and that OSA is not
>really absolutely clueless as you say -- Miscavige is responsible, and
>Miscavige can end the threat.
Fine.
>
>In the meantime, although the Helmer Play may even have had a pt of
>documenting just how safe I was and that my concerns were completely
>unfounded, it has done no such thing and only kept my concerns
>elevated and added some. The cult's liability has only increased.
>Miscavige still hasn't called.
I doubt he will.
>
>Saying that only a few OSA staff may have access to the Internet to me
>is like saying only a few FBI staff may have access to the Internet.
>Somebody might believe it, but someone who is a target of the FBI or
>OSA is not going to believe it. The FBI and OSA would want their
>targets to believe it, but to actually believe it the targets would
>have to be as you say absolutely clueless.
You can think what you want. I have very good information that says
very few OSA staff are allowed to search the internet.
This may have very recently changed, but I don't think so.
henri
>In spite of a local org using the materials at hand there are other
>indications that the orders for this op against Gerry came down from
>the top. There may be interesting consequences.
This may be a name collision, although it seems like an unusual name.
Look at the phone number at the end and where it leads. Note that
this may be a name collision with an entirely unrelated person, but if
it isn't, it may lead to where Mr. Helmer was until recently.
I'm not going to look into it any further, though, because getting
involved in anything related to Gerry is usually a regrettable affair.
From: "Microsoft Mails" <Rene_Hel...@t-online.de>
Subject: Hilfe - Mail Konto gelöscht
Date: 1999/09/04
Message-ID: <#B3hAcx9#GA....@cppssbbsa02.microsoft.com>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 521116084
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Priority: 3
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.de.exchange
Liebe Profis,
ich weiß nicht ob ich hier die richtige Antwort erhalte aber ich gehe
einfach mal davon aus.
Der Grund meiner Anfrage ist ein technisches Problem für das ich eine
Antwort suche.
Ich habe W98 als Betriebssystem und unter Systemeinstellungen/ Mail ein
bestimmtes Profil gelöscht. Die synchronisierten Daten (*.ost) zu diesem
Profil sind noch auf meiner Festplatte.
Die Frage ist: kann ich die Daten irgendwie wieder lesbar machen, bzw. über
ein neues Profil Zugang erhalten.
Über einen Tip würde ich mich sehr freuen.
Vielen Dank.
René Helmer
E-mail: Rene_Hel...@t-online.de
Alt Falkenstein 12a Telefon: 06174-931196
61462 Königstein Telefax: 06174-931195
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen.
René Helmer
Alt Falkenstein 12a
61462 Königstein
Tel: 06174-931196
Fax:06174-931195
mailto: Rene_Hel...@t-online.de
---
What's interesting is that phone number.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&q=%2206174-931196%22
Click that search hit and you won't find that number on the page currently
there. However, you will find it in the cache, as of Jan 23, 2005.
This is G o o g l e's cache of http://www.trulligetrolle.de/kontakte.htm as
retrieved on Jan 23, 2005 17:47:00 GMT.
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Kontakt zum Waldkindergarten
Vorstand
Name: Amt: Aufgabengebiet: Telefonnummer:
Sina Stingl 1. Vorsitzende Organisation des Kindergartens 06082-929296
Marietta Roth 2. Vorsitzende Kontakte 06174-298686
Cornelia Helmer Schriftführerin Anmeldeformalitäten
06174-931196
Katja Bühring-Uhle
Schatzmeisterin
Finanzen
06173-929190
e-mail: vors...@trulligetrolle.de
drucken
Gerry Armstrong
>On Wed, 07 Sep 2005, Gerry Armstrong <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>>On 6 Sep 2005 19:55:38 -0000, Cerridwen <noad...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>\
>>>
>>>This "op" shows how absolutely clueless OSA really is.
>>
>>No it does not.
>
>I disagree.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>Only a few OSA staff may have access to the internet
>>
>>What?
>
>
>Only a few OSA staff may have access to the internet.
>
>
>>
>>>and probably only
>>>a handful know that Kristi's site and google archives are a wealth of
>>>information on people who have been on Scn's lines.
>>
>>What?
>
>and probably only a handful know that Kristi's site and google archives
>are a wealth of information on people who have been on Scn's lines.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>Apparently, someone dreamed up this "op" without having the information
>>>that Gerry could easy blow this op's cover by simply doing a google
>>>search.
>>
>>Highly unlikely.
>
>
>I disagree. How else can you explain how easily you exposed this op.
>You think they wanted you to expose it?
It is very possible.
I don't expect him to. He's every inch a coward.
>
>>
>>Saying that only a few OSA staff may have access to the Internet to me
>>is like saying only a few FBI staff may have access to the Internet.
>>Somebody might believe it, but someone who is a target of the FBI or
>>OSA is not going to believe it. The FBI and OSA would want their
>>targets to believe it, but to actually believe it the targets would
>>have to be as you say absolutely clueless.
>
>You can think what you want. I have very good information that says
>very few OSA staff are allowed to search the internet.
Well sure. But that's like some anonymous person telling me that very
few FBI staff are allowed to search the Internet. Lest they find out
or investigate something I suppose.
Sort of like a.r.s. Here there are obvious ops who act like idiots.
And there are ops that don't act like idiots. It is to the non-idiot
ops' and the cult's great advantage for the idiot ops be accepted for
what Scientology ops look like.
The idea that Scientologists are stupid cult morons or absolutely
clueless is about as real as the idea that very few OSA staff are
allowed to access the Internet.
Philip Rene Helmer, aka Phil Helmer, Phil R. Helmer and Rene Helmer,
certainly had access to the Internet. But that's really not the point.
Did I have access to the Internet? LFBD F/N
>
>This may have very recently changed, but I don't think so.
What on earth do all these OSA staff do who are not allowed to access
the Internet?
How about RTC? Is RTC allowed to have access to the Internet? How
about DM? It's his op.
You're forwarding disinformation here to the detriment of everyone OSA
or RTC or DM or their PIs targets.
The idea that only a few OSA staff may have access to the Internet is
simply not real.
>
>
>
>Cerridwen
>
>http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/
>
>So much entheta, so little time.
>
>
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
Gerry Armstrong
>On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:54:26 GMT, hkhe...@rogers.com (Keith Henson) wrote:
>
>>In spite of a local org using the materials at hand there are other
>>indications that the orders for this op against Gerry came down from
>>the top. There may be interesting consequences.
>
>This may be a name collision, although it seems like an unusual name.
>Look at the phone number at the end and where it leads. Note that
>this may be a name collision with an entirely unrelated person, but if
>it isn't, it may lead to where Mr. Helmer was until recently.
He was doing Doppelgänger Specialist Checksheets in both Germany and
Vancouver?
>
>I'm not going to look into it any further, though, because getting
>involved in anything related to Gerry is usually a regrettable affair.
Oh come now. You've never said before you regretted being involved
with anything related to me. Do you regret this affair?
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong4.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong5.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong6.html
Now please go pick a fight elsewhere.
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
Tilman Hausherr
>This may be a name collision, although it seems like an unusual name.
>Look at the phone number at the end and where it leads. Note that
I think it's a name collision. "Trullige Trolle" is a Kindergarten.
Cornelia is no longer the protocol writer in the club, maybe simply
because her kids are too old and no longer there ?
But there is an Ursula Helmer, who is indeed a scientologist :)
http://www.charter-committee.org/aboutus/page11.asp
--
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Cerridwen
>On 7 Sep 2005 17:07:37 -0000, Cerridwen <noad...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>You can think what you want. I have very good information that says
>>very few OSA staff are allowed to search the internet.
>
>Well sure. But that's like some anonymous person telling me that very
>few FBI staff are allowed to search the Internet. Lest they find out
>or investigate something I suppose.
I understand what you are saying. Being Anon does put my opinions
in some doubt to certain readers/critics but I'm not going to change that
because there's no advantage in if for me.
OSA and a lot of people want to know who I am, but I am not about
to out myself for the sake of this discussion.
If people don't want to give my opinions much validity because I'm
anon, then so be it.
>
>Sort of like a.r.s. Here there are obvious ops who act like idiots.
>And there are ops that don't act like idiots. It is to the non-idiot
>ops' and the cult's great advantage for the idiot ops be accepted for
>what Scientology ops look like.
Ok, I think I know who the obvious ops who act like idiots are, but
which ones are the non-idiot ops'?
Do you consider me a non-idiot op? Or possibly one of the idiot
ops?
>
>The idea that Scientologists are stupid cult morons or absolutely
>clueless is about as real as the idea that very few OSA staff are
>allowed to access the Internet.
While there is no doubt that Scientogists can be quite evil in their
application of Fair Game Tech, it does not make them "smart"
or anything other than evil stupid cult morons.
Fair Gaming is done by evil stupid cultists, with evil stupid ideas of what
right and wrong.
>
>Philip Rene Helmer, aka Phil Helmer, Phil R. Helmer and Rene Helmer,
>certainly had access to the Internet. But that's really not the point.
>Did I have access to the Internet? LFBD F/N
I never once said that ALL OSA staff did not have access to the
internet I said.
"Only a few OSA staff may have access to the internet."
and
"probably only a handful know that Kristi's site and google archives
are a wealth of information on people who have been on Scn's lines."
Phil Helmer obviously has access to the internet but if he is a Scio
in good standing he is not allowed to go to critical sites.
Per the completion lists, it looks like Helmer is not an OT so that
makes it even more likely that he could not go to critical sites.
>>
>>This may have very recently changed, but I don't think so.
>
>What on earth do all these OSA staff do who are not allowed to access
>the Internet?
Let me narrow that statement to "they are not allowed to access
critical sites."
>
>How about RTC? Is RTC allowed to have access to the Internet? How
>about DM? It's his op.
To my knowledge there are only a handful of staff that are allowed
to visit critical sites. Of course some do, but not the majority. And
the ones that do are probably rotated from that job so that they
don't get de-programmed from reading truthful articles.
>
>You're forwarding disinformation here to the detriment of everyone OSA
>or RTC or DM or their PIs targets.
I disagree.
I believe my information is accurate. If you disagree, fine. Prove me
wrong.
>
>The idea that only a few OSA staff may have access to the Internet is
>simply not real.
I think very few have access and that these guys are completely overwhelmed
with entheta and the fact that you very easily blew this Op that was being
run on you is evidence of that.
That's my opinion, if you consider it forwarding disinformation, there's
really not much I can do about that.
pt...@webtv.net
Cerridwen wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005, Tilman Hausherr <tilman...@snafu.de> wrote:
> >On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 16:51:36 GMT, Gerry Armstrong
> ><ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
> >
> >>Here's a pic on our what's new page of Mr. Helmer from yesterday's
> >>meeting :
> >>http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/new.html
> >
> >Wow, so you have a pic of him, but he (hopefully) has no footage of you
> >:)
> >
> >This "op" surprises me somewhat, because I thought that there's a
> >post-GO policy telling to outsource the "wet" operations. This policy
> >was also not respected in the Autobahn photo "op".
>
> This "op" shows how absolutely clueless OSA really is.
Would strongly disagree from personal experiences with the thugs. OSA
being "cluless" is a myth. BUT they do slip once in a while, and reveal
the mouths of whence their fangs doth reside.
>
> Only a few OSA staff may have access to the internet and
Myth! That's like saying Germany did not have an inkling or knowledge
of the Nazi death camps from 1939 to 1945 when the allied forces broke
the tragic news to world in shock and horror.
> a handful know that Kristi's site and google archives are a wealth of
> information on people who have been on Scn's lines.
A mythical notion at best. Here's a Ronbot not on google
http://myreligion.scientology.org/richardb/myself.htm
>
> Apparently, someone dreamed up this "op" without having the information
> that Gerry could easy blow this op's cover by simply doing a google
> search.
Another myth. Not all facts in life (or about the $cn cult) are found
through google.
>
> I vote that whoever approved this "op" against Gerry, be awarded the
> Stupid Cult Moron of the Month Award.
Perhaps so. In that case, last months SCM award would have to go to
Pitbull and U-Mike Greenberg of OCMB and FACTnet Message Board fame.
>
> Cerridwen
>
> http://www.truthboutscientology.com/stats/
>
> So much entheta, so little time.
Tom
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pt...@webtv.net
henri wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:54:26 GMT, hkhe...@rogers.com (Keith Henson) wrote:
>
> >In spite of a local org using the materials at hand there are other
> >indications that the orders for this op against Gerry came down from
> >the top. There may be interesting consequences.
>
> This may be a name collision, although it seems like an unusual name.
> Look at the phone number at the end and where it leads. Note that
> this may be a name collision with an entirely unrelated person, but if
> it isn't, it may lead to where Mr. Helmer was until recently.
>
> I'm not going to look into it any further, though, because getting
> involved in anything related to Gerry is usually a regrettable affair.
Some would say the very same about Michael Greenberg and Rob Clark too.
And as well Adm Davie M. All regrettable, dubious, and nefarious.
Would tend to agree with Fred Rice's Q of why wasn't a recording device
not used in this instance.
But none-the-less, thanks for sharing the report and this find Gerry.
The goons are still out there in their "handling" modes. :)
Tom
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Keith Henson
>On Wed, 07 Sep 2005, Gerry Armstrong <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>>On 7 Sep 2005 17:07:37 -0000, Cerridwen <noad...@nowhere.com> wrote:
I did a long reply to this thread and just as I finished my machine
crashed.
If I can recover the main points, I think Gerry is right about lots of
scns both publics and OSA having internet connections. But I think
Cerri is right that they self censor and don't look at entheta unless
they are assigned to do so. (The ones who do are called
"ex-members.") That number assigned is probably not very large because
it requires the ones who do to undergo lots of sec checks and probably
be rotated off this duty at frequent intervals.
There is reason to think they don't run many searches. I don't want
to say why, but I did tell Gerry.
The problem they may have had with the Helmer op against Gerry is that
the number of people who knew about it was probably small. There just
might not have been anyone who was concerned about his old web site or
the other connections you could find back to scientology--at least
after it ran out of the google cache. Even regular people who are on
the net are often not very good at finding stuff--certainly not like
the people who search a lot.
And finding the connection was not obvious either. They may have
figured that if they couldn't find Helmer's connection to the cult in
ten minutes neither could Gerry.
Another thing is that Gerry has been out so long he runs in wog think
mode. I don't think he can put himself in the thinking (or more like
non-thinking) mode of cult members. I don't think Cerri can either,
but she has more recent inside knowledge. Ten years of observing cult
think and I have only reached a personal understanding of how poorly I
can guess how they think.
As for Gerry's thought that this op might have been screwed up on
purpose as a diversion, I have to admit it is possible. I can't
figure out why they would do this, but then I can't understand what
they do anyway.
For sure the op with the PI against me didn't make any sense.
Keith Henson
Feisty
"Keith Henson" <hkhe...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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Impressive findings.
I thought the facts as Gerry first stated were already bizarre. He noted interesting
observations. The meetings started after Helmer first approached to want establish and try
to gain confidence, and then later accomplish having Gerry and Caroline answer those
questions. To do what with? Frame up? After reading of Paulette Cooper, I see the concern
about putting your fingerprints on anything.
That makes me wonder about *how* they do this. Members probably don't get paid like PI's
do. What do you think these members are getting out of this, free courses? Money? If they
get detected, like they obviously now have, $cientology will claim they never knew them?
Some members who were taken for lots of money by Reed Slatkin - didn't even care they lost
so much! People who pay in millions and see no Super Power Building in CW - don't care!
But this is a very personal, absolutely deceptive and a slimy way to have someone approach
like this. To gain someones confidence. You wonder if this guy knew and just had to trick
you (and was to receive some other payoff from someone else) or if he was just given
another story in order to get you do produce something for the cult. Whichever way, a
person has to be ill in thinking that it is for a good purpose, to rationalize it is the
thing to do.
Probably as Keith has notated before, this is indicative of the way a junkie would get his
fix. Hubbard tech instructs people to do things like this, but they don't realize that
they are really acting to trick and deceive like the criminals that they "perceive" are
after them.
Are these written orders acted out like a play? Who writes this deceptive script to trick
people out of information? or something for the cult to use to destroy someone utterly?
Hope the authorities do help.
Feisty
>
> Keith Henson
>
chuckb...@aol.com
Gerry Armstrong wrote:
snip
> What on earth do all these OSA staff do who are not allowed to access
> the Internet?
> ...snip...
> How about RTC? Is RTC allowed to have access to the Internet? How
> about DM? It's his op.
> ...snip....
> You're forwarding disinformation here to the detriment of everyone OSA
> or RTC or DM or their PIs targets.
> ...snip...
> The idea that only a few OSA staff may have access to the Internet is
> simply not real.
> ... snip ...
Dear Gerry,
I know from my INCOMM computer job years though (90-95), that INCOMM
didn't make it like falling off a log for normal users in the HGB or
Int or the complex to log onto the internet.
I know in INCOMM we stripped and reformatted ALL disks on all the
normal user's workstations before loading them up with the INCOMM
software. Not a single INCOMM workstation had a modum card. All
workstations were sans modums.
As of 92 no RTC or Int Base workstations that were part of the INCOMM
network were internet ready, no modums.
At ASI, by 1995, I set up only 3 workstations with internet
connections.
My data is thus 9-10 years old, but I highly doubt they changed these
general workstation requirements of NO modums.
Today a savy staffer would have to provide his own standalone modum,
cables, software, etc., and find a suitable phone jack leading to the
outside phone lines, to get onto the internet.
DM logging on, to do an op on you, that is an interesting thought. I
haven't considered that DM might just be lurking on ARS, doing an op.
I see that is not inconceivable.
That'd be a laugh if DM or RTC staffers or OSA Int staffers lurk on ARS
and do spur of the moment thumb-twiddling-in-their-spare-moments dirty
tricks internet ops on the major critics here.
That would be par for their hypocratical "internet and cell-phone
one-up-man-ship can't-have against staff" vs. "internet and cell
phone have for themselves."
Maybe some cell-phone deprived OSA Int or RTC staffer who does rate
okay to use the internet access org workstations that I agree most
likely exist in special offices for special OSA and RTC staff, some
lurking otherwise deprived bored staffers might be wildcatting and like
to kill time harrassing critics here.
All lurking OSA Int and RTC staffers I encourage should defect and come
forward and spill the beans on what actually is being done and who has
official and unofficial internet access, and who goes to internet cafes
and lurks and does sporadic self-originated ops.
Chuck Beatty
chuckbeatty77 @aol.com
412-260-1170