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Jontu

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Apr 29, 2003, 6:04:36 AM4/29/03
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Monday, 28 Apr 03

8:50 pm

The phone rang at the McClaughry household and the caller ID said Schisler Doris
386-235-6821.

No reverse lookup on the above number.

Area Code: 386
Prefix: 235
Location: DAYTONA BEACH
Other Info: PCS (cell phone)

And, as I am sometimes wont to do when up at the house, I answered the phone...

"Hello?"

[Note: The following quotes are not necessarily verbatim, but nevertheless
accurately reflect the gist of the conversation.]

A male voice, saying he was James Schisler, asked to speak to Virginia. I
replied "Hello James, this is David."

I told him that Virginia wasn't there presently, and asked if I could give her a
message for him.

He said that he had seen her recent posts with her phone number, and just
thought he would call because he wanted to talk to her. From the beginning of
the conversation, I noticed that the caller was uncomfortable talking to me.

I mentioned that it was rather late for him (11:50 pm in Florida).

At some point in the conversation he asked if I had gotten the job at The
Boutique, to which I replied that no, I hadn't.

[This was a deliberate "jab" which funnily enough, didn't really land as RedFred
wanted.]

He said that somehow we had gotten off on the wrong foot, and that he didn't
understand how things had deteriorated to the condition they had, and didn't
understand why we thought he was essentially up to no good. He wanted to know
specifically what he had done which made us not trust him.

I replied that, for me anyway, it wasn't any one particular thing, it was
perception of intentions and what was behind him.

I also said that he appears to have access to intelligence data. He laughed a
somewhat nervous laugh, and said something like "not any more than anyone else".
He said that you can find all kinds of things on the internet, and quoting a
line from the X-Files, he said "the truth is out there" trying to laugh it off
and imply that he gets all his data from just surfing the internet.

He said that he's somewhat responsible for creating the image that he has access
to intelligence data, that he enjoys James Bond, 007 type scenarios. He implied
that he doesn't have access to satellite imagery or surveillance.

I brought up his "Notice to the Bull" post done a while back. I said "that was
for me wasn't it?" He hesitantly said that yes, it was.

I asked why he used that specific phrase. He tried to say it was because
Virginia had previously posted something about "Ya mess with the bull, ya get
the horns", and not because he had access to intelligence data.

[Minor outpoint here as Virginia's post, over 6 months earlier, said nothing
about a bull in a china shop, however my private message to Paul about three
weeks before the RedFred post did use that exact phrase, as well as us
discussing it here in the house. Not to mention what RedFred was reacting to
when that "Notice to the Bull" post was done, and the interesting comm cycle
which ensued.]

Knowing that was yet another diversion, I continued with another pointed
question. I asked about the time he had said something to Virginia about a can
of coke, or glass of coke on the corner of her desk. He then diverged into
talking about Remote Viewing, saying that he had read a lot on the internet
about it.

I didn't acknowledge his implication that the glass of coke statement had
anything to do with remote viewing, and just let it hang...

Also, as if offering up some useful data, he said that he knows someone in the
FBI, to which I replied:

"Nope, too low."

He mentioned something about racoons, saying that there was a nature preserve on
one side and the ocean on the other.

He again reiterated that he was done with what had gone on before, that he had
been listening to a lot of LRH tapes lately, and that he essentially was through
playing games.

He said "I'm past that".

He said he wasn't in any group, wasn't on any team, and that he was an
independent person.
To which I replied that I thought he told Virginia that he was a part of some
coalition.

That produced a significant comm lag, some nervous chuckling, and much hemming
and hawing. He said that it was just a "loose network" of people, and he
downplayed it's importance saying that they didn't get together for regular
meetings.

I then asked "So, who else is in it?" This again produced a comm lag and more
nervous chuckling while he tried to dance around that question. He never did
answer it.

He said essentially that he didn't want to play games anymore, wanted to put the
past behind him and wanted to clean things up.

I said "Well James, I sincerely hope that's true - I really do."

He said that he really wanted to talk to Virginia, to which I replied "I
understand" (which I do).

I said that I would give his message to Virginia, and asked for a number he
could be reached at, and he said that Virginia already has his number. I asked
again, saying that I would like to put it on the note for her, and he gave the
number of (386) 756-7022.

He asked when a good time to call would be (to talk to Virginia), and I said
that I honestly didn't know. But I said I would give the message to her.

The conversation then ended.

-----

My perceptions from the call were that the caller was not expecting me to answer
the phone, nor to talk to me.

The caller was uncomfortable talking to me, and really did want to talk to
Virginia because he thought it would somehow be different.

Despite the statement that he wanted to talk to Virginia (which was a very
truthful statement), he was putting out a lot of BS.

The caller sensed that I had no animosity towards him, and actually had ARC for
him, despite the fact that I didn't trust him, and perceived things about him he
wished to keep hidden, which also made him nervous.


David

Phil Scott

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Apr 28, 2003, 3:04:44 AM4/28/03
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On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 03:04:36 -0700, "Jontu" <thet...@icehouse.net> wrote:

>Monday, 28 Apr 03
>
>8:50 pm
>
>The phone rang at the McClaughry household and the caller ID said Schisler Doris
>386-235-6821.
>
>No reverse lookup on the above number.
>
>Area Code: 386
>Prefix: 235
>Location: DAYTONA BEACH
>Other Info: PCS (cell phone)
>
>And, as I am sometimes wont to do when up at the house, I answered the phone...
>
>"Hello?"
>
>[Note: The following quotes are not necessarily verbatim, but nevertheless
>accurately reflect the gist of the conversation.]
>
>A male voice, saying he was James Schisler, asked to speak to Virginia. I
>replied "Hello James, this is David."
>
>I told him that Virginia wasn't there presently, and asked if I could give her a
>message for him.
>
>He said that he had seen her recent posts with her phone number, and just
>thought he would call because he wanted to talk to her. From the beginning of
>the conversation, I noticed that the caller was uncomfortable talking to me.


Red Fred is a cultie moron....deal with him regardless your own brand of
insanity at your own risk.

as far as cult ops go.... you expose yourself to these idiots by taking wage
jobs. Start contracting. with many clients. no way in hell the cult can
track each one down before you have finished the job.

You can make more money mowing lawns than working in a boutique.. you can doubt
that painting houses, or fixing fences, you can quadruple that by computer
consulting etc.

Phil Scott

Scooby Doo and Popeye

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Apr 29, 2003, 11:09:03 AM4/29/03
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IT'S HERE:

http://www.myhomepage.org/davidgriffin/

http://www.fzint.org/history/osaops.htm


Scooby Doo said:

VIRGINIA = ENTHETA
ENTHETA = VIRGINIA

Popeye said:

JONTU = DAVID GRIFFIN
DAVID GRIFFIN = JONTU

VMJ = MORE ENTHETA, MORE OSA, MORE MARKABIANOLOGY!

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