Finally -- I'm Somebody!
Dan Garvin
my SP declare!
I guess it's true what they say, that a thing doesn't seem so valuable if
you don't have to work for it.
Here it is:
===============
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY WESTERN UNITED STATES
SENIOR HCO PAC ETHICS ORDER 1688 24 MARCH 2002
ALL ORGS
ALL MISSIONS
SUPPRESSIVE PERSON DECLARE
DAN GARVIN
Dan Garvin, former staff member from Los Angeles, is hereby declared a
Suppressive Person.
In July 2001, Dan left staff professing that he considered himself a
Scientologist and intended to continue in the Scientology religion.
Shortly after leaving, Dan began writing entheta letters to
Scientologists in good standing in an attempt to spread black PR on the
Church and to dissuade them from continuing in the Scientology religion.
Since this time, as shown by his Actions [sic], Dan has refused to apply
standard ethics technology to himself to handle the matter.
Dan has publicly departed from the Church in his continued attempt to
dissuade people from Scientology by spreading lies and black PR.
In reality, he has only been pretending to be a Scientologist. He made
virtually no progress on The Bridge in over 20 years and despite many
attempts by fellow staff members to help him with his out-ethics he has made
virtually no change. Through his continuous overt acts he has barred himself
from making any case gain.
Dan has committed the following suppressive acts:
1. PRONOUNCING SCIENTOLOGISTS GUILTY OF THE PRACTICE OF STANDARD
SCIENTOLOGY.
2. PUBLIC DISAVOWAL OF SCIENTOLOGY OR SCIENTOLOGISTS IN GOOD STANDING WITH
SCIENTOLOGY ORGANIZATIONS.
3. ENGAGING IN MALICIOUS RUMOR MONGERING TO DESTROY THE AUTHORITY OR REPUTE
OF HIGHER OFFICERS OR LEADING NAMES OF SCIENTOLOGY OR TO "SAFEGUARD" A
POSITION.
4. PUBLIC STATEMENTS AGAINST SCIENTOLOGY OR SCIENTOLOGISTS BUT NOT TO
COMMITTEES OF EVIDENCE DULY CONVENED.
5. CALCULATED EFFORTS TO DISRUPT CHURCH SERVICES OR THE FLOW OF PUBLIC UP
THE BRIDGE THROUGH THE CHURCHES.
6. VIOLATION OR NEGLECT OF ANY OF THE TEN POINTS OF KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY
WORKING.
Any certificates or awards Dan may have been issued are hereby
canceled.
Any trademark licenses or membership agreements he may have signed are
also canceled and he may not use the marks in any manner whatsoever [sic]
It is hoped that Dan will come to his senses and recant. Should this
occur, he is to do the steps A to E as covered in HCO PL 7 Mar. 1965RB
SUPPRESSIVE ACTS, SUPPRESSION OF SCIENTOLOGY AND SCIENTOLOGISTS.
His only Scientology terminal is the International ]ustice Chief via
the Continental Justice Chief.
ALEX DUVALL
SECURITY HANDLING
ENFORCEMENT OFFICER PAC
AUTHORIZED BY
LRH COMM CLO WUS
FOR
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY
WESTERN UNITED STATES
APPROVED BY
INTERNATIONAL JUSTICE CHIEF
IJC:CSWUS:LCCLO:AD:ad
HCO, SCIENTOLOGY and THE BRIDGE are trademarks and service marks owned by
Religious Technology Center and are used with its permission. SCIENTOLOGIST
is a collective membership mark designating members of the affiliated
churches and missions of Scientology. Printed in U.S.A.
Unpublished work: (c) 2002 CSWUS. All Rights Reserved.
===============
One of the remarkable characteristics of a Church of Scientology apparatchik
is the compulsion to lie even when no lie is necessary, when the
unembellished truth would have been adequate to the purpose. Compulsive
lying is a trait ordinarily associated with a certain mental instability,
but these are people who, outside office hours, would seem pretty normal. I
knew Alex; he knew me. Even accounting for the possibility that some of the
lies were fed to him by others, he knows that at least some of what he wrote
here is false.
High Crimes 2, 4, 5, and 6 are quite true and are, by themselves,
sufficient reason to declare me an SP and blacken my name for all eternity
among believers. 1 and 3 are false, as are several of the particulars in the
preliminary paragraphs. Had the lies been omitted, this already zing-less SP
declare would have had no less zing and been just as damning. Why lie?
I did enjoy this last paragraph, even though it's entirely untrue: "In
reality, he has only been pretending to be a Scientologist. He made
virtually no progress on The Bridge in over 20 years and despite many
attempts by fellow staff members to help him with his out-ethics he has made
virtually no change. Through his continuous overt acts he has barred himself
from making any case gain."
1) OK, so suppose I really was only pretending. How come in over 20 years
all the king's ethics officers and all the king's sec checkers couldn't put
two and a half percent together and figure this out? How come my ethics
files contained plenty of commendations, relatively few negative reports,
and almost no justice actions against me?
2) When did the State of Clear become "virtually no progress on The Bridge"?
If that's the case, then the great majority of the staff in the CLO are
no-case-gain SPs, because they're not even Clear.
3) What continuous overt acts? The only ones even implied in the rest of
this issue are ones I committed, or supposedly committed, *after* I left the
Sea Org. Is Alex saying I'm so powerful and OT that I can change the past,
so that all those times in the past, when I got case gain, simply didn't
happen? Doesn't he realize that's dangerous? Hasn't he seen The Butterfly
Effect? I realize the movie hadn't come out when he wrote my declare, but he
could have gone into the future and watched it, or watched it now and gone
back into the past and fixed the SP Declare so I wouldn't have such
dangerous OT powers.
4) But, supposing I really had been committing continuous overt acts, and
supposing that, despite all those purported attempts by fellow staff members
to set me straight, I actually had made virtually no change -- how come
nobody did anything to stop me in all those years? In that entire time, I
was never assigned to the RPF, and only one Committee of Evidence was ever
held against me (one other one was called but was cancelled because I was
upstat). According to the HCO Policy Letter entitled "Knowledge Reports" and
other issues, anyone who knew of an offense but failed to report or handle
the offender is just as culpable as the actual perpetrator. Either that's an
indictment of several hundred Sea Org members ranging from the bottom to the
very top of Scientology, making them all just as guilty as I, or -- perhaps
those mysterious 20 years' worth of unspecified continuous overt acts never
really happened, and that's the reason nobody ever "helped" me with them.
Anyway, despite the lies, the errors, and the long delay, I'm extremely
proud to finally have my SP Declare. I'm going to have it made into a
wallet-sized laminated card, so I can show it to people. I'm thinking of
also having it mounted and framed for my wall.
Beaming,
--
Dan Garvin
Sea Org member for 25 years
Free for 2 years
Proud SP
"Wasn't the S.O. much gentler than a wog prison system where you would be
exposed to large quantities of insanity and suppression, and
butt-fucking?" -- Phil Chitester, Church of Scientology defender
IDA J 007
>From: "Dan Garvin" NOdangS...@skyenet.net
>Date: 01/17/2004 9:19 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <400a1...@news.athenanews.com>
Congratulations Dan! When you have this
Declare framed, please take a picture and mail it to me. I'll hang it on the
wall behind my computer so I can smile knowing that you are now "somebody".
However, I always knew you were somebody --long before they sent you the
message.
Ida Camburn
"Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave
a trail"
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Susan
"Dan Garvin" <NOdangS...@skyenet.net> wrote in message
news:400a1...@news.athenanews.com...
Dan,
Your points are well made.
Congratulations on your new recognition ;-)
It would look nice amidst your certs and awards as a complete collection and
story of your evolution through the cult.
Susan
Magoo
Isn't that just the best? Those "in" will never know, until it happens to
you. I felt it was like the ending of this long, 30-year
threat for me, and the beginning of ~real~ freedom!
Hahahhahahhaha.....You: Rumor Mongering. Ask um...which ones? I'd love to
hear the specifics on that. Oh that's right, they can't tell. Why? Because
if they did, they'd have to face the truth...and they can't have more hear
THAT...can they?
Way to go, Dan!
Hugs to you :)
Tory/Magoo!
SP 6 ^ with Cumulative Cluster
"Dan Garvin" <NOdangS...@skyenet.net> wrote in message
news:400a1...@news.athenanews.com...
William Barwell
Hmmmm. So is like, not making progress in Scientology a Scientology
"high crime" like? Now, the whole idea in Scientology is to make OT VIII.
Right?
Now an OT VIII has super-duper uber-human abilities, power of Matter,
Energy, Space, Time and poodles. Right. OK, maybe not poodles.
So, how many of the high ranking Scientology fearless leaders, such
as Miscavige, Moxon, and others have any sort of demonstratable
OT abilitres. Why, I 'd say its nearrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrly ... none.
Which means that since Hubbard snuffed it in 1986, 18 years ago,
these fools have been wasting their time and not making any progress up the
bridge.
Shouldn't REAL leaders be able to make that OT VIII and show people,
yes it can be done and teh prromises of mighty OT abilitie sare real?
If these bozos can't, aren't they then failing to make prgress, to be
leaders, and is this not reason enough to boot them and find people
who have a can do attitude? Thatis, people who are not suppresive?
Hasn't Scientology been a laughing stock for all to many years?
Of course it has!
Because its runs by suppresives and 1.1ers!
Scientologists arise! Mutiny for the name of Scientology!
Save Scientology from the 1.1ers!
--
Bush! Chimp or chump?
Cheerful Charlie
Warrior
I've noticed that Dan Garvin's posts have not been propagating to
Newsguy's alt.religion.scientology, so I am reposting this article. I
wouldn't have even noticed the absence of Dan's posts if Ida, Susan
and Tory hadn't replied. I'm asking Bob at Newsguy to look into
why Dan's posts are not propagating to Newsguy.
Warrior - Sunshine disinfects
http://warrior.xenu.ca
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From: "Dan Garvin" <NOdangS...@skyenet.net>
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Subject: Finally -- I'm Somebody!
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Here it is:
===============
ALL ORGS
ALL MISSIONS
virtually no change. Through his continuous overt acts he has barred himself
===============
Beaming,
--
Ted Mayett
The actual document itself might have an ebay value to it. Maybe run
off a few copies and list them as 'autographed copies', see if there
might be a market for them.
Revd. Norle Enturbulata
Hah! Now THAT'S the kind of announcement you expect not from a "Church",
but from a pseudo-paramilitary group with delusions of world domination.
Oh, wait...
--
Rev. Norle Enturbulata
"Church" of Cartoonism
*
"Better than 90 percent of what my
father has written about himself is untrue."
- Ron deWolf, son of L. Ron Hubbard
Kim P
Congrats Dan - and keep up the good work. Your look at the inside and
your telling of your story is much appreciated.
Kim P
Desktop Stud
Kim P
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear Kim P:
I know you mean well Valerie.
But his SP declare is almost 2 years old!
Is this a repost of something he put earlier or is he saying
he just got a copy for the first time now?
I neither case, he does not seem much like an SP to me.
I know REAL SP's and "no case gain type characters" is
not an accurate description of these people.
Desktop Stud
Kim P
Whoever you are - I am NOT Valerie - I am Kim P - have been for over
23 years. What is your excuse ? Your OT power lines crossed??
Kim P
Desktop Stud
"Kim P" <yduzit...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:2PyOb.277$U77....@news20.bellglobal.com...
Kim P
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear Kim P:
Well thanks, but, regardless of WHAT your name really is
you are absolute SHIT at answering peoples questions.
Desktop Stud
Dr. Desertphile
<NOdangS...@skyenet.net> wrote:
> Uncork the champagne! It took a long time and some doing, but I finally got
> my SP declare!
>
> I guess it's true what they say, that a thing doesn't seem so valuable if
> you don't have to work for it.
Congratulations!
Funny how the "Declare" keeps repeating the word "religion," as if
doing so will somehow persuade people that Scientology is a "religion"
(pause for laughter to subside) and that the sinister Scientology
crime syndicate is a "church." No real church, as far as I've ever
seen, does such a thing.
Maybe I'll become a Scientology customer just so that I can quit later
and get a "declare." I'd love to have one!
> Anyway, despite the lies, the errors, and the long delay, I'm extremely
> proud to finally have my SP Declare. I'm going to have it made into a
> wallet-sized laminated card, so I can show it to people. I'm thinking of
> also having it mounted and framed for my wall.
Maybe an image in alt.binaries.scientology would also be cool.
> Beaming,
> --
> Dan Garvin
> Sea Org member for 25 years
> Free for 2 years
> Proud SP
> "Wasn't the S.O. much gentler than a wog prison system where you would be
> exposed to large quantities of insanity and suppression, and
> butt-fucking?" -- Phil Chitester, Church of Scientology defender
And also, according to his articles in a.r.s., a child molester.
--
"To the bat tank!" --- Tank Girl
Asking a Creationist for scientific evidence is like asking a hippo to ride
a unicycle.
Dr. Desertphile
<tedm...@despammed.com> wrote:
> You are lucky, I did all these and more, and could not get a declare.
>
> The actual document itself might have an ebay value to it. Maybe run
> off a few copies and list them as 'autographed copies', see if there
> might be a market for them.
Though Ms. Paulette Cooper was never a Scientology customer, she was
no doubt labeled an "SP" (she was subjected to "Fair Game"). I wonder
if there is a "declare" for Paulette Cooper: if so, I'd love an
autographed copy.
Magoo
"Desktop Stud" <N/A...@princeton.org> wrote in message
news:cs2dncxvlpb...@comcast.com...
Kim P
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear Kim P:
She's not "Valerie"...where are you getting your 'information' from? Your
"source" is incorrect.
But his SP declare is almost 2 years old!
So? Most people find out later that they are declared. The ol
C of $ now tries to hide these declares, as they have soooo many, and
they're often from people their 'public' really liked.
Is this a repost of something he put earlier or is he saying
he just got a copy for the first time now?
No..>Dan posted it. Did you read what he said?
I neither case, he does not seem much like an SP to me.
No....nor do most people I know who are declared "SP's". It's a bogus term
used to control the inmates.
I know REAL SP's and "no case gain type characters"
Really? Who?
is
not an accurate description of these people.
Ya...who? Fill us in. You are correct, Dan is NOT one of them.
Nor is any "SP" I've yet to meet.
Tory/Magoo!
SP 6 ^with Cumulative Cluster :)
Desktop Stud
Magoo
Kim P
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear Kim P:
Desktop Stud
I couldn't disagree with you more. Give me one example. Every post Kim has
made has been right to the point, honest, and informative.
You *might* take some lessons from her :) ((( Magoo ducks!)))
Tory/Magoo!
Feisty
Congrats Dan!
Their tech must not work too well if the word 'pretend' is being used.
What a ludicrous word to use! No, sorry, a perfect 'spiritual term' for
$cientology! If you are an example of what is allowable, yet 'undetectable
in your offensive actions' for the past 20 years, their history is showing.
Feisty
p.s. Send a copy of it over to Razor Magazine with your story. Maybe they will
publish all of the special forms the church issues. A real edumacation.
Keith Henson
<NOdangS...@skyenet.net> wrote:
>Uncork the champagne! It took a long time and some doing, but I finally got
>my SP declare!
snip
Impressive! Congrats.
Us wog types have to make do with a scientology lackey waving his hand
at half the court and saying we are all SPs.
Keith Henson
Dave Bird
<deser...@cchr.ws> writes:
>On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 04:31:12 -0800, Ted Mayett <tedm...@despammed.com>
>wrote:
>
>> You are lucky, I did all these and more, and could not get a declare.
>>
>> The actual document itself might have an ebay value to it. Maybe run
>> off a few copies and list them as 'autographed copies', see if there
>> might be a market for them.
>
>Though Ms. Paulette Cooper was never a Scientology customer, she was no
>doubt labeled an "SP" (she was subjected to "Fair Game"). I wonder if
>there is a "declare" for Paulette Cooper: if so, I'd love an autographed
>copy.
I don't think so. There is not a standard way of issuing an SP
declare except upon a member. If it were said that someone outside
the organisation were an SP, then this would have to be done
by its own special HCO-PL or B-PL (I think). A declare is not
needed to say that an outsider is, and should be handled as,
an enemy.
--
FUCK THE SKULL OF HUBBARD, AND BUGGER THE DWARF HE RODE IN ON!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8====3 (O 0) GROETEN --- PRINTZ XEMU EXTRAWL no real OT has
|n| (COMMANDER, FIFTH INVADER FORCE) ever existed
.................................................................
A society without a religion is like a maniac without a chainsaw.
Zinj
dave.xemu...@nospam.demon.co.uk says...
> I don't think so. There is not a standard way of issuing an SP
> declare except upon a member. If it were said that someone outside
> the organisation were an SP, then this would have to be done
> by its own special HCO-PL or B-PL (I think). A declare is not
> needed to say that an outsider is, and should be handled as,
> an enemy.
One way of looking at it might be: 'Everyone is Suppressive
until proven otherwise' The only proof otherwise is joining the
'Church'.
Suppressive *declares* are only necessary as a notification of a
change in status.
Zinj
--
Forget KSW; KOTJMF - MC5
J. R. Ford
<NOdangS...@skyenet.net> wrote:
>Uncork the champagne! It took a long time and some doing, but I finally got
>my SP declare!
>
>I guess it's true what they say, that a thing doesn't seem so valuable if
>you don't have to work for it.
>
>Here it is:
>
Keep up the good work!!!
<snap><snap><snap>
Deomorto
Dan!
Congratulations!! It seems to have taken them a long while to get it to
you.
Your points about how this issue highlights things like how, despite all
the "tech', all the 'experts' and so much 'knowledge' scientology could
not even spot what a truly evil person you were for over 20 years!! In
fact, the issue would appear to say that if you yourself hadn't
initiated anyting - they still wouldn't know! Hilarious.
Mayo's SP declare was one the major turning points for me - precisely
because of the holes that have to appear in the logic in order to make
the SP declare 'valid'.
As someone who has two of them - allow me to congratulate you on yours!
Deo
Susan
You have just stated the bottom line.
Thanks,
Susan
mimus
<NOdangS...@skyenet.net> wrote:
The "Goldenrod Diploma"-- the one Co$ certificate worth something.
Congratulations, and thanks for your posts.
I saw
many people
reduced to
incoherent babbling,
stripping off clothes,
crawling around on the ground,
banging heads, limbs and other body parts
against furniture and walls,
barking,
losing all sense of one's identity
and intense and persistent suicidal ideation.
--Declaration of Andre Tabayoyon
http://www.holysmoke.org/sm/tabayoyon.htm
I'm an OT.--Lisa McPherson
http://www.holysmoke.org/lm/lm062.htm
If you imagine 40-50 Scientologists
posting on the Internet every few days,
we'll just run the SP's right off the system.
It will be quite simple, actually.
--Elaine Siegel, OSA INT (1996)
http://www.skeptictank.org/handlars.htm
Case 5/BTLA/SP1/BAD
KSJ
(And, BTW: Xenu Xenu Xenu!)
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Dan Garvin
"Ted Mayett" <tedm...@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:uquk00905ntnep4hh...@4ax.com...
> You are lucky, I did all these and more, and could not get a declare.
Ted,
If you really want to get your SP declare, here is what I had to do to get
mine.
When I was visitng LA in 2002, just a couple months after the date on the
declare, I never saw it but was promised it, but then they "couldn't find
it." Yeah right. In 2003 I phoned to ask for it and was not put through to
the Cont Justice Chief (CJC), who told the Receptionist to tell me to put my
request in writing and he'd send it right off to me. I immediately mailed my
request. A month later I had not received a reply, so I wrote a new letter
to CJC, cc to International Justice Chief, saying that by their own policy
"if it isn't written it isn't true" and therefore I am not an SP and
therefore all my certificates and awards are still valid and I am still a
Scientology minister. So if I didn't have my SP declare within two weeks I
would start advertising my services as a Scientology minister. I mentioned
that the local orgs would probably be glad for the help. I also wrote to my
Scientologist brother and told him I was not a declared SP (for the same
reason), and asked who was telling him he had to disconnect from a
Scientology minister in good standing? (knowing he would probably challenge
this with the org) I didn't get the declare within the two weeks but did
start posting that I was still a minister and mentioned it on a radio show,
and eventually a few days ago I fnally got the declare.
>
> The actual document itself might have an ebay value to it. Maybe run
> off a few copies and list them as 'autographed copies', see if there
> might be a market for them.
Posting it on the net to comment upon is fair use. Selling it would probably
be a copyright violation.
Dan