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Christine

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Aug 30, 2003, 2:47:25 PM8/30/03
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My story (in short form).

In 1976 I went CLEAR (in California).
In 1982 I went OT 3 (in Alabama).
In 1994 I went OT 7 (in Tennessee).
In 2003 I went OT 8 (in Florida).

Every single EP ever promised to me I have received. Ron Hubbard was a
genius.

In 1976 (for the first time in my "present incarnation") I experienced
perfect recall of every event ever recorded (at the cellular level) of
my entire life (as a wog).

I realized I had mocked up my own reactive mind.

Prior to my going clear I had been diagnosed with incurable cancer,
and after I attested to my new found state of being Clear I was tested
by none other than the 3 top cancer surgeon specialists in the entire
world and declared to be completely free from any signs of cancer
whatsoever.

I asked the doctors if the cancer was simply in remission and they
replied (and I quote) "No, it's not in remission, according to all of
our intensive testing, it's completely gone, it's almost as if it was
eliminated from ever having been present in the first place!".

I smiled (knowingly).

My father (whom I had long ago disconnected from) called me,
unexpectedly.

I accepted his call (being completely free from the danger of the
reactive mind) and being completely willing to confront any
communication, listened to what he had to say.

He challenged my ability to perfectly recall every event I had ever
experienced (in this incarnation) (at the cellular level).

I chuckled.

He asked me what clothing he was wearing on the day he attended my
high school graduation ceremony (some many many years ago).

At this moment the unbelievable truth goodness and power of Ron's
breakthrough of technology (of the human mind) burst through with
unspeakable brilliance.

I realized my father was an SP (a suppressive person) that was beyond
the hope the Church of Scientology offered, (being one of those 2% of
the population that were eternally lost and beyond repair, and had
evil intentions to prevent the world from experiencing the powers of
being totally free).

Of course I knew the answer to his question.

But I was also well aware of the technology itself. "When confronted,
attack".

Why do you hate me?, I countered. "But I don't hate you, I love you",
he said.

Well, that ended our conversation (for good). I hung up.

If there was one single thing that stuck out in my mind (at that time)
regarding the technological breakthrough (of the mind) that Ron
Hubbard alone had discovered (and this covering the course of some 75
million years) it was that parents don't really love their children,
and children don't really love their parents, and friends don't really
love their friends, in the absence of scientology.

It's all a farce. It's a mock up of the reactive mind.

Thank God (i.e. Ron) I no longer have one.

I had learned to love no one.

Except Ron.

OT 8

Roland

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Aug 30, 2003, 5:09:28 PM8/30/03
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"Christine" <therea...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> My story (in short form).
>
> In 1976 I went CLEAR (in California).
> In 1982 I went OT 3 (in Alabama).
> In 1994 I went OT 7 (in Tennessee).
> In 2003 I went OT 8 (in Florida).
>
> Every single EP ever promised to me I have received. Ron Hubbard was a
> genius.
>
> In 1976 (for the first time in my "present incarnation") I experienced
> perfect recall of every event ever recorded (at the cellular level) of
> my entire life (as a wog).
>
> I realized I had mocked up my own reactive mind.
>
> Prior to my going clear I had been diagnosed with incurable cancer,
> and after I attested to my new found state of being Clear I was tested
> by none other than the 3 top cancer surgeon specialists in the entire
> world and declared to be completely free from any signs of cancer
> whatsoever.

Book 1 auditing can do that. You have just got to run out "mitosis".

> I asked the doctors if the cancer was simply in remission and they
> replied (and I quote) "No, it's not in remission, according to all of
> our intensive testing, it's completely gone, it's almost as if it was
> eliminated from ever having been present in the first place!".
>
> I smiled (knowingly).

Well, Scientology is the science of "knowing how to know" so why not? :o)

> My father (whom I had long ago disconnected from) called me,
> unexpectedly.
>
> I accepted his call (being completely free from the danger of the
> reactive mind) and being completely willing to confront any
> communication, listened to what he had to say.
>
> He challenged my ability to perfectly recall every event I had ever
> experienced (in this incarnation) (at the cellular level).
>
> I chuckled.
>
> He asked me what clothing he was wearing on the day he attended my
> high school graduation ceremony (some many many years ago).
>
> At this moment the unbelievable truth goodness and power of Ron's
> breakthrough of technology (of the human mind) burst through with
> unspeakable brilliance.
>
> I realized my father was an SP (a suppressive person) that was beyond

Oh, Gawd, another one. You have done well to keep such gains amid all this
enturbulation...

> the hope the Church of Scientology offered, (being one of those 2% of
> the population that were eternally lost and beyond repair, and had
> evil intentions to prevent the world from experiencing the powers of
> being totally free).
>
> Of course I knew the answer to his question.
>
> But I was also well aware of the technology itself. "When confronted,
> attack".
>
> Why do you hate me?, I countered. "But I don't hate you, I love you",
> he said.
>
> Well, that ended our conversation (for good). I hung up.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.....

> If there was one single thing that stuck out in my mind (at that time)
> regarding the technological breakthrough (of the mind) that Ron
> Hubbard alone had discovered (and this covering the course of some 75
> million years) it was that parents don't really love their children,
> and children don't really love their parents, and friends don't really
> love their friends, in the absence of scientology.
>
> It's all a farce. It's a mock up of the reactive mind.
>
> Thank God (i.e. Ron) I no longer have one.
>
> I had learned to love no one.
>
> Except Ron.

Papa close. Momma closer. L. Ron Hubbard closest.

> OT 8

Congrats !!!!!!


ste...@s.netic.de

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Aug 30, 2003, 5:11:17 PM8/30/03
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tannman1

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Aug 30, 2003, 5:12:19 PM8/30/03
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You really believe this?? You need not be afraid of me however you should
be very afraid of what that cult has done to you and your mind. I hope
someday you will see just how much they have damaged you. Oh I won't ask or
demad that you prove anything because you have all the pre-programmed cult
default responses ready. However when your alone tonight and nobody is
around I challange you to prove it to yourself. If you can (and I mean
really prove it) then your the first but if not take the next step and ask
yourself why not. At some point check out http://xenu.net just for a second,
I promise it won't bite. Oh and for whatever reason I am glad your cancer
abated.
"

It's easier to ask what Scientology doesn't do start with anythgng it
claims. Then you see what it really does do, Hurt People, Destroy minds and
empty banck accounts Scientology Sucks!


Lucrecia Borjas

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Aug 30, 2003, 5:58:43 PM8/30/03
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therea...@aol.com (Christine) wrote in message news:<8f4fbaf1.03083...@posting.google.com>...

What you said, I do not believe one thing...
This is what Scientology preaches all the time - about the Danger
Environment, that true friends are others Scientologists. To me,
everything that you said is BIG LIE. Double check your cancer often,
because it is in remission for a treatment you had, not for
Scientology.
They promisse cure of diseases, but it is all lies. There are a lot
Oatees dying of various uncurable diseases that Scientology promissed
to cure, but did not. Unfortunately, when they realise that the Oatee
Levels do not cure even mosquito bite, it is too late for the
traditional treatment.
In each Major Event, the Suppresives are there to tell a lot of lies.
I am so sorry for you Christine. Please read these sources.

Please read www.xenu.net
www.lermanet.com
www.factnet.org

Watch out! Perhaps, your father is the best friend that you will ever
have!
Much Love,
Lucrecia Borjas

Barbara Schwarz

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Aug 30, 2003, 7:04:14 PM8/30/03
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therea...@aol.com (Christine) wrote in message news:<8f4fbaf1.03083...@posting.google.com>...


And your name is lying former infiltrator Tory Magoo Christman, right
Chrissy?
I am a real Scientologist, Magoo and whatever you describe or make 1.1
jokes about doesn't remind me at all to my religion, rather to the ARS
snakepit.

Somebody e-mailed me a while ago that I should not pick a battle with
you because you could help Scientologists. What a joke! You are just
nasty and a lot dumber than the average Scientologist. If I would be
in doubt about Scientology and would met you, Magoo, I would be right
back in SCN with the confirmation that Scientologists are a hell of a
lot smarter, better educated, more class and have a better character
as you, the ex-infiltrator and apostate.

Ridiculing SCN does not make you acceptable in the eyes of
Scientologists that had their remarkable wins. There is so much you
just don't know...


Barbara Schwarz

Christine

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Aug 30, 2003, 9:24:30 PM8/30/03
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"Roland" <rol...@rashleigh-berry.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<bir3rg$ehn$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>...

Thanks Roland, I knew you would understand.

OT (8)

CaptAngst

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Aug 30, 2003, 9:39:10 PM8/30/03
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>I realized I had mocked up my own reactive mind.
>

>I realized I had mocked up my own reactive mind.
>

Obviously, not a terribly ingenious OP.

"Clears" wouldn't cough-up the "Clear Cog"
on a NG like ARS.

>He challenged my ability to perfectly recall every event I had ever
>experienced (in this incarnation) (at the cellular level).
>
>I chuckled.
>
>He asked me what clothing he was wearing on the day he attended my
>high school graduation ceremony (some many many years ago).
>
>At this moment the unbelievable truth goodness and power of Ron's
>breakthrough of technology (of the human mind) burst through with
>unspeakable brilliance.

Now ya see, that's the kind of Souper Powerz (TM) that are worth $500, 000! I
wish I could recall what I was wearing the day before yesterday. Truly, a
gift!<snicker>

Unspeakable brilliance? <ROTFL>


And if this is for real....then you're not only really sad, but you're a
fruitcake, too.


Barb?

Rebuttals?

Angst

Christine

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Aug 30, 2003, 9:45:27 PM8/30/03
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nooatee...@yahoo.com (Lucrecia Borjas) wrote in message news:<6ae2d95c.03083...@posting.google.com>...

Dear Lucrecia,

This post was not authentic (just as scientology is not authentic).

Your response however is a perfect illustration of good hearted people
reacting to absolute nonsense.

I do not have cancer, never did. It was a means of exposing the idiocy
of the scientology dogma.

I love my father, and my father loves me. (ditto mom).

I am so tempted to tell you that the word "gullible" is not in the
dictionary that I can hardly stand it. But I will not.

You are a good hearted person.

Love,
Christine

barb

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Aug 30, 2003, 9:54:46 PM8/30/03
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I love you! <G> You crack me up!

--
--
barb
Chaplain, ARS

"After over 50 years, what has Scientology given the world? Misery,
hopelessness, broken families, desolation, death."
-Shydavid

"I remember when my son said "Every day should be Mother's Day." But
those were the days before L Ron Hubbard came into his life."

--Ida Camburn

Fredric L. Rice

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Aug 31, 2003, 12:24:33 PM8/31/03
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therea...@aol.com (Christine) wrote:

>My story (in short form).
>In 1976 I went CLEAR (in California).
>In 1982 I went OT 3 (in Alabama).
>In 1994 I went OT 7 (in Tennessee).
>In 2003 I went OT 8 (in Florida).

And it only cost me half a million dollars! What a deal! Half a million
to find out I'm covered in invisible murdered space alien fragments
called "Body Thetans."

Every rube should be so easily swindled.

---
"I spewed bodily fluids." - Shydavid http://www.skeptictank.org/
http://www.RonTheNut.ORG/ PGP: http://www.skeptictank.org/frice.pgp
-- You love drugs! You love drugs, don't you?! You better
not say anything about my mother! Don't you DARE say anything
about my mother! -- Scientology's International President (Audio
files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice

Christine

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Aug 31, 2003, 1:50:06 PM8/31/03
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barb <bwa...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3F515566...@cox.net>...

> Christine wrote:
> > My story (in short form).
> >
> > In 1976 I went CLEAR (in California).
> > In 1982 I went OT 3 (in Alabama).
> > In 1994 I went OT 7 (in Tennessee).
> > In 2003 I went OT 8 (in Florida).
> >
> > Every single EP ever promised to me I have received. Ron Hubbard was a
> > genius.
> >
> > In 1976 (for the first time in my "present incarnation") I experienced
> > perfect recall of every event ever recorded (at the cellular level) of
> > my entire life (as a wog).
> >
> > I realized I had mocked up my own reactive mind.
> >
snip.......

> >
> > If there was one single thing that stuck out in my mind (at that time)
> > regarding the technological breakthrough (of the mind) that Ron
> > Hubbard alone had discovered (and this covering the course of some 75
> > million years) it was that parents don't really love their children,
> > and children don't really love their parents, and friends don't really
> > love their friends, in the absence of scientology.
> >
> > It's all a farce. It's a mock up of the reactive mind.
> >
> > Thank God (i.e. Ron) I no longer have one.
> >
> > I had learned to love no one.
> >
> > Except Ron.
> >
> > OT 8
>
> I love you! <G> You crack me up!
>
> --
> --
> barb
> Chaplain, ARS
>
> "After over 50 years, what has Scientology given the world? Misery,
> hopelessness, broken families, desolation, death."
> -Shydavid
>
> "I remember when my son said "Every day should be Mother's Day." But
> those were the days before L Ron Hubbard came into his life."
>
> --Ida Camburn

Barb,

The sad thing is how many folks actually are unable to distinguish
truth from fiction. Apparently this phenomena is a pre-requisite to
scientology embracement.

Inevitably when I pen a prose of parody of scientology, someone, if
not more than a few folks respond with their "outrage" or "offense" or
"ridicule", fill in the blank.

I always feel that by staying within the bounds of realism (regarding
scientologies claims) the absurdity is crystal clear. However,
apparently, I do err.

Christine
(AKA OT 8)

JB@nowhere

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Aug 31, 2003, 12:37:35 PM8/31/03
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"Barbara Schwarz" <Barbara...@excite.com> wrote in message
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Reffered to by many as El Rum...heh...heh...

> >
> > OT 8
>
>
> And your name is lying former infiltrator Tory Magoo Christman, right
> Chrissy?
> I am a real Scientologist, Magoo and whatever you describe or make 1.1
> jokes about doesn't remind me at all to my religion, rather to the ARS
> snakepit.
>
> Somebody e-mailed me a while ago that I should not pick a battle with
> you because you could help Scientologists. What a joke! You are just
> nasty and a lot dumber than the average Scientologist.

Dear Gods, help me. I damned near had a "second" heart attack after reading
this particularly amusing line.
From what I've seen, heard and read - $cientologists are, or seem to be -
~below~ the average in the intelligence deptartments. Since most of OSA are
not allowed (correct me if I'm wrong, here) to even see the responses to any
sort of intelligent responses to thier blatherings, then it's reasonable to
assume that the idiocy that comes out of said group on a continueing basis
is based on a lie. OSAs lies, to be precise.

How else do you explain ~ALL~ the footbullets?

> If I would be
> in doubt about Scientology and would met you, Magoo, I would be right
> back in SCN with the confirmation that Scientologists are a hell of a
> lot smarter, better educated, more class and have a better character
> as you, the ex-infiltrator and apostate.

You're supposed to be the proof, Barb? Thank the Gods I let my child think
for himself, and I'm grateful that he has a ~FULL~ understanding of what
$cientology is. He and his friends get daily chuckles out of my take of
it... I have quite the small following...Lol...

>
> Ridiculing SCN does not make you acceptable in the eyes of
> Scientologists that had their remarkable wins.

Ridicule is but ~one~ tool in the arsenal against a supremely destructive
criminal enterprise. The law is another.

> There is so much you
> just don't know...

Pretty sure we (tinw) do, kiddo'...


Jack

>
>
> Barbara Schwarz


Deomorto

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Aug 31, 2003, 5:30:18 PM8/31/03
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therea...@aol.com (Christine) wrote in message news:<8f4fbaf1.03083...@posting.google.com>...
> My story (in short form).
>
> In 1976 I went CLEAR (in California).
> In 1982 I went OT 3 (in Alabama).
> In 1994 I went OT 7 (in Tennessee).
> In 2003 I went OT 8 (in Florida).
>

wow, OT 3 in Alabama? That's a real turn of events. Must have been at
the AO in Birmingham...

wotta troll.

barb

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Sep 1, 2003, 10:49:21 PM9/1/03
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I've had the same thing happen with some of my sarcastic parodies. Some
people do take them at face value, something I learned to avoid years
ago. :)

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