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[French/Italian Media] Update on kidpapping in Sardinia 1 March 2008

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Hartley Patterson

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Mar 3, 2008, 8:17:36 AM3/3/08
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Translations of two Agence France Press articles posted by Roger Gonnet:

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Scientology: a Frenchwoman kidnapped in Sardinia will soon be repatriated

ROME, March 1, 2008 (AFP) - a Frenchwoman, kidnapped in Sardinia by
members of the Church of Scientology and rescued at the end of January by
the Italian police force, will "quickly be repatriated to France", French
diplomatic sources in Rome indicated Saturday.

"The French Consulate in Rome has been following this since the beginning
in close cooperation with the Italian authorities and Martine Boublil will
quickly be repatriated to France", affirmed these sources.

The police in Nuoro (east-central Sardinia), who had rescued the 48 year
old Frenchwoman held under deplorable conditions, informed AFP that Mrs.
Boublil "was still in hospital but that she might leave Sardinia next
week". The prefecture of Nuoro had been alerted by a telephone call
concerning appeals for help coming from a country house located on
Ortobene hill, close to Nuoro.

The police officers had discovered on 21st January Martine Boublil, sister
of Claude Boublil, an important member of the church of Scientology in
France, locked up in a room filled with rubbish. Initially identified as
being of Tunisian origin, she had been found half-naked and sleeping on an
mattress infested with vermin, according to the local police force.

Four French people, a woman and three men, identified as members of the
Church of Scientology and suspected of having detained Martine Boublil
against her will, had been arrested then, a spokesman of the prefecture
of local police force indicated at the time.

These four people were released ten days ago and have since returned to
France, the same source said Saturday.

The spokesman of the Church of Scientology in France, Daniele Gounord,
invited by the daily newspaper "Le Parisien" to comment, spoke of a
"family drama" and indicated that Scientology did not have "anything to
say" on the question.

"Le Parisien" also reported the testimony of Martine Boublil, who said she
had been "in hell".

She said she had been a Scientology member for eight years before leaving.
Several years later, she was hospitalized for depression. According to
her, her brother (Claude Boublil, one of the organizers of the Scientology
Celebrity center in Paris) made her leave and "took her by force to a
house in Normandy belonging to a scientologist, then to Sarthe and finally
to Sardinia".

In Sardinia, she claims to have been forced to remain locked up in a
"disgusting room" on the first floor of the house, guarded by two young
people who did not speak to her, with a basin for sanitation and only a
tee-shirt for clothing. A woman also lived in the house. She claims to
have written an S.O.S message with lipstick on cardboard which she threw
into the garden of neighbours who alerted the police.

After her release, Martine Boublil was hospitalized in a psychiatric
establishment in Sardinia.

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Fenech (UMP) for a board of inquiry into the Scientology

PARIS, March 1, 2008 (AFP) - George Fenech (UMP), vice-president of the
parliamentary group on cults, proposed on Saturday the creation of a
parliamentary board of inquiry into Scientology after a Frenchwoman was
held prisoner by members of the cult in Sardinia.

"This recent affair casts suspicion once more on the Church of Scientology
with a French victim, Martine Boublil, claiming serious infringements of
her freedom and her physical integrity, and indicates the real dangers of
this organization", the deputy said in an official statement.

M. Fenech "will present in the French National Assembly a motion for a
resolution creating a parliamentary board of inquiry to determine the real
nature of the activities of this movement, its methods of operation, its
sources of financing and in a more general way if the organization
respects the laws of the French Republic", the text adds.

Martine Boublil, held by force in Sardinia by members of the Church of
Scientology and released at the end of January by the Italian police
force, "will soon be repatriated to France", French diplomatic sources in
Rome indicated on Saturday.

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with thanks to Babel Fish!


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phil scott

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Mar 3, 2008, 10:16:09 PM3/3/08
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On Mar 3, 5:17 am, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
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babble fish is gettting much better, almost impossible to tell its an
auto translate pgm.

phil Scott

Hartley Patterson

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Mar 4, 2008, 4:52:50 AM3/4/08
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ph...@philscott.net:

> babble fish is gettting much better, almost impossible to tell its an
> auto translate pgm.

Most of that was me, not Babel Fish! It still can't write English but it
does save time translating in that it gets most words right and now and
then helps with words I don't know.

phil scott

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Mar 4, 2008, 11:42:58 AM3/4/08
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On Mar 4, 1:52 am, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
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> p...@philscott.net:

hey! thanks Hartley nice trick..... good idea. you edit the
bable fish output to get a good translation.

I can use that.


Phil Scorr

Piltdown Man

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Mar 4, 2008, 12:53:11 PM3/4/08
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Hartley Patterson <hpt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk> wrote...

> ph...@philscott.net:
>
> > babble fish is gettting much better, almost impossible to tell its an
> > auto translate pgm.
>
> Most of that was me, not Babel Fish! It still can't write English but it
> does save time translating in that it gets most words right and now and
> then helps with words I don't know.

Which is where computer translation has been standing still ever since
people first started trying it in the 1950's. I've never noticed an
increase in quality between what those first translation programs came up
with, what the state of the art was when I studied the subject at
university in the late 1980's, and what Systran (a.k.a. Babel Fish) comes
up with now.

No wonder, since computer translation is based on a provably incorrect
belief: that something or someone can translate a text without
understanding the content at all. But that after over half a century they
still can't come up with something that produces at least syntactically
correct sentences in the target language is nothing short of ridiculous.

Out_Of_The_Dark

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Mar 4, 2008, 12:13:38 PM3/4/08
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On Mar 3, 8:17 am, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
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God job translating it with the babelfish help!
This is a classic example of the length Scientology will go to "help"
those suffering mental illness. What is not classic is the method of
what was done once they got her in their hands: Introspectio RD ala
Lisa McPherson. This story and what CoS does needs to be all over the
internet to get CCHR and Scientology known for what they are.

Mary

clam....@googlemail.com

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Mar 4, 2008, 5:26:31 PM3/4/08
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On Mar 4, 9:52 am, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:

> Most of that was me, not Babel Fish! It still can't write English but it


> does save time translating in that it gets most words right and now and
> then helps with words I don't know.

nice one :)

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