This is nice
Stephen Von Hatten
they still haven't said anything. I've sent 2 other e-mails (all of
them asking questions). No response yet. I think I'm being ignored.
Stephen Von Hatten
wrote:
> My old org won't talk to me anymore. I sent an e-mail a while back and
> they still haven't said anything. I've sent 2 other e-mails (all of
> them asking questions). No response yet. I think I'm being ignored.
Forgot to mention. In it, I said that my girlfriend had found this
group. Now it should make sense.
Barbara Schwarz
Since when do you have a girlfriend? Oh, I get what you mean. The
woman in your life is a spam and defamer bot, NOCEM Babblestop bot.
Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz
You never were in any org.
Stephen Von Hatten
wrote:
SLC Mission and her name was Krystal. Plus, I haven't attacked you
since that first post. I believe I was respecting your wishes when you
posted "cease and desist." I didn't want to get into an Internet flame
war. Forgive me, I'm a novice at this.
However, since you insist...
http://www.fas.org/sgp/foia/schwarz.html
http://www-gatago.com/alt/usenet/stalker/14253559.html
If you keep coming back, I can understand. You're a stalker.
Happy now?
realpch
Did they stop sending you mail too? I think a lot of people would love
to produce that effect.
Peaches
--
Extra! Extra! Read All About It!
Save some dough, save some grief:
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.scientology-lies.com
Babblestop NOCEM
wish not to read (or see) posts by Barbara Schwarz and the OSA
psych flooders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Schwarz
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/barbara_schwarz.html
http://www.ahbl.org/notices/barbschwarz.php
http://www.xenu.net/
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wtf!
Zinj
@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, stephen....@gmail.com
says...
Being ignored is the nice part.
It's even possible that that's the only reaction you will ever
notice, which is nicer still.
However, there may be more 'subtle' reactions you just haven't
noticed yet.
Your Scientology family, friends and co-workers may *also* be
ingoring you, and, you just haven't noticed it yet.
For most Scientologists, this is the most painful 'not-
ignoring'.
If you show up at your org for a 'service' or 'course', you may
find yourself whisked off to 'Ethics' first.
Everything from there goes downhill :) (or uphill, depending on
your own position.)
Far less likely, but not impossible is that you may start
noticing strange cars parked near your home or work with even
stranger people in them, and, your neighbors may begin getting
visits from 'people' asking pointed questions about you.
Like I say, that's far less likely, but, this *is* Scientology,
so anything's possible.
Zinj
--
You Can Lead a Clam to Reason; but You Can't Make Him Think
d
news:1172470435.0...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
I love how you can't defend what Scientology does. All you can do is resort
to some rather basic attempts to divert the discussion.
The fact you can't approach ANY criticism of Scientology in a rational
manner is more than enough illustration to the rest of us just how perverse
the Scientology grip is on those needing help the most.
Normal people would break apart the claims made by the original poster.
That's called being rational and objective. Throwing one's hands up in the
air in disgust happens when rationality is no longer in the house.
> Barbara Schwarz
I'm now waiting your personal attack to prove my point. Thanks!
dave
nospam...@myway.com
<stephen.vonhat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 10:14 pm, "BarbaraSchwarz" <barbara.schw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 25, 10:27 pm, "Stephen Von Hatten"
>
> > <stephen.vonhat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > My old org won't talk to me anymore. I sent an e-mail a while back and
> > > they still haven't said anything. I've sent 2 other e-mails (all of
> > > them asking questions). No response yet. I think I'm being ignored.
>
> > You never were in any org.
>
> SLC Mission and her name was Krystal. Plus, I haven't attacked you
> since that first post. I believe I was respecting your wishes when you
> posted "cease and desist." I didn't want to get into an Internet flame
> war. Forgive me, I'm a novice at this.
>
> However, since you insist...
>
>
> If you keep coming back, I can understand. You're a stalker.
>
> Happy now?
Your posting history shows that you attacked her first and stalked
after her postings.
nospam...@myway.com
<stephen.vonhat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 10:14 pm, "BarbaraSchwarz" <barbara.schw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 25, 10:27 pm, "Stephen Von Hatten"
>
> > <stephen.vonhat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > My old org won't talk to me anymore. I sent an e-mail a while back and
> > > they still haven't said anything. I've sent 2 other e-mails (all of
> > > them asking questions). No response yet. I think I'm being ignored.
>
> > You never were in any org.
>
> SLC Mission and her name was Krystal. Plus, I haven't attacked you
> since that first post. I believe I was respecting your wishes when you
> posted "cease and desist." I didn't want to get into an Internet flame
> war. Forgive me, I'm a novice at this.
>
> However, since you insist...
>
>
> If you keep coming back, I can understand. You're a stalker.
>
> Happy now?
StopSpam...@myway.com
<stephen.vonhat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 10:14 pm, "BarbaraSchwarz" <barbara.schw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 25, 10:27 pm, "Stephen Von Hatten"
>
> > <stephen.vonhat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > My old org won't talk to me anymore. I sent an e-mail a while back and
> > > they still haven't said anything. I've sent 2 other e-mails (all of
> > > them asking questions). No response yet. I think I'm being ignored.
>
> > You never were in any org.
>
> SLC Mission and her name was Krystal. Plus, I haven't attacked you
> since that first post.
You posted many defamatory postings on her. You stalked her around
with that she is no Scientologists and that she ruins Scientology and
other lies. You might have put the lies on her on the web.
> I believe I was respecting your wishes when you
> posted "cease and desist." I didn't want to get into an Internet flame
> war. Forgive me, I'm a novice at this.
>
> However, since you insist...
>
>
>
Zinj
@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, nospam...@myway.com says...
<snip>
> Your posting history shows that you attacked her first and stalked
> after her postings.
That's like saying 'You called her a nut, and, it's only then
that she, in retaliation began wearing lampshades, eating feces
and gibbering uncontrollably'.
StopSpam...@myway.com
Wasn't that you idea, Peach? After Griffin admitted trolling with ID
Conrad L. Powers, you told him to come back with another ID. After
that, the Babblestop Nocem bot and numerous other loon posters started
posting.
The Chief Instigator
>On Feb 26, 10:14 am, "d" <d...@example.com> wrote:
>> "BarbaraSchwarz" <barbara.schw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
[...]
>> > Since when do you have a girlfriend? Oh, I get what you mean. The
>> > woman in your life is a spam and defamer bot, NOCEM Babblestop bot.
>> I love how you can't defend what Scientology does. All you can do is resort
>> to some rather basic attempts to divert the discussion.
>> The fact you can't approach ANY criticism of Scientology in a rational
>> manner is more than enough illustration to the rest of us just how perverse
>> the Scientology grip is on those needing help the most.
>> Normal people would break apart the claims made by the original poster.
>> That's called being rational and objective. Throwing one's hands up in the
>> air in disgust happens when rationality is no longer in the house.
>> >BarbaraSchwarz
>> I'm now waiting your personal attack to prove my point. Thanks!
>>
>> dave
>You are one of Barbara Schwarz' defamers and cyberstalkers too.
Piss up a rope, incompetent IQ-65 OSA hack.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 3, Houston 1 (February 25)
NEXT GAME: Friday, March 2 at Omaha, 7:05
John
"Stephen Von Hatten" <stephen....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172471644.1...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
I wouldn't waste the bandwidth. Ms Schwarz has shown every indication in the
past of having very serious mental problems. The current Ms Schwarz may or
may not be the original Ms Schwarz, but may in fact be a CoS operation.
Either way, she's not worth listening to.
But, you never know. She may come good one day.
Xenu Jr
postings, but we used to have what was called a killfile. It was
created for Barb 'gurgle spat tinfoil hat the cia is out to get me'
schwarz.
Eat my dick hobag (while I look for the google equiv to KILLGLOBAL=~/
Kill/Global)
Why haven't you been deported yet?
Smewchies
--XenuJr
On Feb 25, 10:14 pm, "Barbara Schwarz" <barbara.schw...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Barbara Schwarz
> "Stephen Von Hatten" <stephen.vonhat...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1172471644.1...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 25, 10:14 pm, "BarbaraSchwarz" <barbara.schw...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On Feb 25, 10:27 pm, "Stephen Von Hatten"
>
> >> <stephen.vonhat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > My old org won't talk to me anymore. I sent an e-mail a while back and
> >> > they still haven't said anything. I've sent 2 other e-mails (all of
> >> > them asking questions). No response yet. I think I'm being ignored.
>
> >> You never were in any org.
>
> > SLC Mission and her name was Krystal. Plus, I haven't attacked you
> > since that first post. I believe I was respecting your wishes when you
> > posted "cease and desist." I didn't want to get into an Internet flame
> > war. Forgive me, I'm a novice at this.
>
> > However, since you insist...
>
> >http://www.fas.org/sgp/foia/schwarz.html
> >http://www-gatago.com/alt/usenet/stalker/14253559.html
>
> > If you keep coming back, I can understand. You're a stalker.
>
> > Happy now?
>
> past of having very serious mental problems.
Libel per se.
> The current MsSchwarzmay or
> may not be the original MsSchwarz, but may in fact be a CoS operation.
Lol.
> Either way, she's not worth listening to.
You wish.
>
> But, you never know. She may come good one day.
Oh, shut your defamation up, Dave Rice. You better handle your own
mental problems. I don't want you to infect your goats with whatever
is wrong with you.
Exposing p$ychiatric agents and trolls:
If you are intelligent and think for yourself, they defame, libel and
abuse you as being mentally ill. If you are not intelligent and don't
think for yourself but adopt their mentally retarded, narrow, false,
insecure and hate filled opinions, they call you sane. - Thanks, I
rather be my own thinking person. -- Barbara Schwarz
Check these guys out:
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/
And by the way: Wikipedia (Wikipiggi), AHBL and the anti-freespeech
spam bot NOCEM Babblestop lie, harass and defame.
One of mine, Patrick Michael Sullivan and other people's cyber stalker
is Patrick Humphrey ("The Chief Instigator"), a HATEFUL AND VULGAR
PERSON. Humphrey was fired from Rice University and is accused of
being a stalker, a self-confessed peeping Tom, a glaring hypocrite,
stalker, a redneck and blasphemer. He is a fan of the Houston Aeroes,
he calls himself an Areohead, while he is an airhead. Under each of
his hateful and defamatory stalker postings, he links to the Houston
Areos and other sports websites. I doubt that they appreciate the
"advertisement" of a stalker. If you don't believe that Humphrey
stalks, defames and hurts people who never did anything to him, google
his postings. He is always the one who throws the first stone and
can't leave others alone.
Report him to his upstream provider PrismNet. Report him to abuse @
io.com but they sofar unlawfully ignore complaints. Go also directly
to the upstream provider who takes a very dim view of Humphrey's
stalking and harassing people. One of mine, Patrick Michael Sullivan
and other people's cyber stalker is Patrick Humphrey ("The Chief
Instigator"), a HATEFUL AND VULGAR PERSON. Humphrey was fired from
Rice University and is accused of being a stalker, a self-confessed
peeping Tom, a glaring hypocrite, stalker, a redneck and blasphemer.
He is a fan of the Houston Aeroes, he calls himself an Areohead, while
he is an airhead. Under each of his hateful and defamatory stalker
postings, he links to the Houston Areos and other sports websites. I
doubt that they appreciate the "advertisement" of a stalker. If you
don't believe that Humphrey stalks, defames and hurts people who never
did anything to him, google his postings. He is always the one who
throws the first stone and can't leave others alone.
Report him to his upstream provider PrismNet. If you report him to
ab...@io.com they unlawfully ignore your complaint. Go directly to the
upstream provider who takes a very dim view of Humphrey's stalking and
harassing people: admin @ prismnet.com.
--- Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz
>
> <snip>
>
> > Your posting history shows that you attacked her first and stalked
> > after her postings.
>
> That's like saying 'You called her a nut, and, it's only then
> that she, in retaliation began wearing lampshades, eating feces
> and gibbering uncontrollably'.
>
> Zinj
This is one of the most disgusting postings, I ever read. I am glad
that your mind is not mine. Just a disturbed person would come up
with that.
d
news:1172516927.8...@z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...>> "BarbaraSchwarz" <barbara.schw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Where do I defame? Come on - it must be easy for you to show me where I
defame and "cyberstalk". Unless you are lying, in which case it'll be
impossible. So, please - show me where I defame! :)
>
> THIS POSTING COMES TO YOU AS FREE PUBLIC SERVICE AGAINST THE
> MONSTEROUS AND MALICIOUS BABBLESTOP NOCEM SPAM (abuse through
> newsserver Altopia)
>
> Australian "business man" Robert Griffin, (Robert=Robbles) thinks it
> can't be proven that he is the spam operator of the lying and free
> speech hating NOCEM spam-defame-attack-harassment bot BabblesStop:
> http://groups.google.com/groups/search?enc_author=WX5ZTyEAAACnWN3bc6M3tWorx5Oa9sjUK6XOnttm3_3sOvzoF-PYqSGeh77yVtMuD7ntKWIADiU&scoring=d
>
> Robert Griffin libeled the always kind, good natured, and sane Barbara
> Schwarz already in the past as "slut", "mentally ill", "bushpig",
> "terrorist", "spastic clam head psycho" and used the f-word to harass
> her. He posted death threats against her, e.g. that she should be
> "deprogrammed" of her opinions/religion "with a cylindrical object of
> not less than six inches diameter and 6 feet in length, a tube of
> moldy grease, and a large hammer."
"Always kind"? Surely you realise that's not true at all. And this isn't
defamation. Anyone who calls people names isn't "always kind", by
definition. Also, referring to someone who has been in mental institutions
as "mentally ill" is accurate, especially when they continue to display
symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia.
Enter the debate as an adult, not a child with something to hide. If
Scientology *is* that great, it should be able to stand up to critics,
instead of just hiding in the shadows crying that it's being prejudged.
> Robert Griffin: "Doug Wiser must leave ASH NOW. Or die."
>
> Read also this:
> http://groups.google.com/groups/search?enc_author=WX5ZTyEAAACnWN3bc6M3tWorx5Oa9sjUK6XOnttm3_3sOvzoF-PYqSGeh77yVtMuD7ntKWIADiU&scoring=d&hl=en
>
> Info on Dave Touretzky:
> http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/david-touretzky/
>
> Read up Andreas Heldal-Lund (Xenu hate website):
> http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/andreas-heldal-lund/
>
> Info on stalker, forger, defamer, and self confessed child rapist
> Stapleton. (Eru Avatar with e-mail address alsimak_three @ yahoo.com)
> http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=Peat+stapleton&qt_s=Search
>
> Info on anti-free speecher, defamer, and ABHL's transsexual webmaster,
> felon and former inmate Brian J. Bruns:
> http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Brian+Bruns%2BAHBL&qt_s=Search
>
> Info on Wikipedia misleading media and the public:
> http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/
>
d
> On Feb 26, 11:54 am, Zinj <zinji...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> In article <1172515365.347522.317880
>> @p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, nospamnos...@myway.com says...
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> > Your posting history shows that you attacked her first and stalked
>> > after her postings.
>>
>> That's like saying 'You called her a nut, and, it's only then
>> that she, in retaliation began wearing lampshades, eating feces
>> and gibbering uncontrollably'.
>>
>> Zinj
>
> This is one of the most disgusting postings, I ever read. I am glad
> that your mind is not mine. Just a disturbed person would come up
> with that.
Again dodging the post in question and picking up a minor detail that
doesn't have any effect on anyone reading the posts.
Very mature, Babs. Seriously great. And you wonder why people think you're
insane.
d
news:1172515993.7...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 25, 11:34 pm, "Stephen Von Hatten"
> <stephen.vonhat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 25, 10:14 pm, "BarbaraSchwarz" <barbara.schw...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Feb 25, 10:27 pm, "Stephen Von Hatten"
>>
>> > <stephen.vonhat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > My old org won't talk to me anymore. I sent an e-mail a while back
>> > > and
>> > > they still haven't said anything. I've sent 2 other e-mails (all of
>> > > them asking questions). No response yet. I think I'm being ignored.
>>
>> > You never were in any org.
>>
>> SLC Mission and her name was Krystal. Plus, I haven't attacked you
>> since that first post.
>
> You posted many defamatory postings on her. You stalked her around
> with that she is no Scientologists and that she ruins Scientology and
> other lies. You might have put the lies on her on the web.
She *isn't* a Scientologist. Not according to The Church of Scientology,
anyway, and we all agree they'd be the folks who'd know. Scientology isn't
like other religions - it's not a personal endeavour, but employment.
Christians can be Christians even when ex-communicated. Scientologists are
either in the fold or not Scientologists.
Posting the truth, no matter how unpleasant, is not defamation. Please read
the dictionary as LRH commanded you do when you don't understand a word.
Also, "stalking" would involve actively following someone around. Hanging
out in one place where that person goes is not stalking, so simply replying
to posts by someone in a group frequented by both parties is not stalking by
any means. Again, the dictionary is your friend. I suggest you look into
it.
d
ok - how about "has displayed classic symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia,
whether suffering from the illness or not, including delusions, perceived
victimisation by unseen assailants, etc."
>> The current MsSchwarzmay or
>> may not be the original MsSchwarz, but may in fact be a CoS operation.
>
> Lol.
>
>> Either way, she's not worth listening to.
>
> You wish.
To be honest, you're not worth listening to. You'll make one inflammatory
statement, then personally berate anyone attempting to counter. Just look
at what you write about "Dave Rice" later on in that very post.
>>
>> But, you never know. She may come good one day.
>
>
> Oh, shut your defamation up, Dave Rice. You better handle your own
> mental problems. I don't want you to infect your goats with whatever
> is wrong with you.
So him saying YOU have mental problems is libel, yet you feel you can freely
claim HE has mental problems? Again, this is just more evidence pointing to
the "unstable mind" alluded to earlier on. Do you not see the hypocrisy?
John
"d" <d...@example.com> wrote in message
news:P2UEh.8672$I46....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
snip
>>>
>>> I wouldn't waste the bandwidth. MsSchwarzhas shown every indication in
>>> the
>>> past of having very serious mental problems.
>>
>> Libel per se.
>
> ok - how about "has displayed classic symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia,
> whether suffering from the illness or not, including delusions, perceived
> victimisation by unseen assailants, etc."
>
>>> The current MsSchwarzmay or
>>> may not be the original MsSchwarz, but may in fact be a CoS operation.
>>
>> Lol.
>>
>>> Either way, she's not worth listening to.
>>
>> You wish.
>
> To be honest, you're not worth listening to. You'll make one inflammatory
> statement, then personally berate anyone attempting to counter. Just look
> at what you write about "Dave Rice" later on in that very post.
>
>>>
>>> But, you never know. She may come good one day.
>>
>>
>> Oh, shut your defamation up, Dave Rice. You better handle your own
>> mental problems. I don't want you to infect your goats with whatever
>> is wrong with you.
>
> So him saying YOU have mental problems is libel, yet you feel you can
> freely claim HE has mental problems? Again, this is just more evidence
> pointing to the "unstable mind" alluded to earlier on. Do you not see the
> hypocrisy?
>
No, she doesn't. Possibly because of her mental problems, or possibly
because she's just a nasty piece of work. I have her killfiled, so I don't
normally see her replies. What's the point?
Ball of Fluff
wrote:
> My old org won't talk to me anymore. I sent an e-mail a while back and
> they still haven't said anything. I've sent 2 other e-mails (all of
> them asking questions). No response yet. I think I'm being ignored.
CofS staff are notoriously bad at communication, even though that
seems to fly in the face of everything one studies there.
They often don't answer emails, return calls, answer petitions in a
timely manner, return meters being serviced in a timely manner.
Thing is, the minute the DSA hears "ARS" he or she will not really
have any say in anything. OSA Int in LA is the entity that calls the
shots re public wandering on here.
Back when I was in CofS, in the same position you're in, my org didn't
care at all that I was posting. The DSA said something negative, but
other than that, nobody cared. But the only reason they talked about
it with me was because I was actually going there and talking with
staff- some of whom were personal friends- about it.
But after a while they started to care and started to ride me on it.
And why? Because OSA Int in LA told them to do so. So if OSA Int gets
involved in your situation, if they telex or phone the org, you can
expect a handling. But OSA Int does not get to these things right
away. They do not jump on it right away. There was a lag every time I
started or recommenced posting to a.r.s to when I'd start getting
hassled.
I also once got an email address for someone in OSA Int in LA and
wrote this person twice, trying to smooth things over, etc, and got no
response.
So they may be giving you the cold shoulder, but more likely, they
don't know what to do. And they won't know until someone tells them
what they should think and what they should do.
That's how they are. OSA Int calls the shots and local staff do not
think for themselves and, indeed, aren't allowed to.
C
Ball of Fluff
> Stephen Von Hatten wrote:
>
> > My old org won't talk to me anymore. I sent an e-mail a while back and
> > they still haven't said anything. I've sent 2 other e-mails (all of
> > them asking questions). No response yet. I think I'm being ignored.
>
> Did they stop sending you mail too? I think a lot of people would love
> to produce that effect.
>
Boy, you aren't kidding. The way I had to finally do it, was, I had a
po box and all my bills went there cuz it was near my job and it was
handy. Then, when I moved, I closed the po box and left no forwarding
and notified all creditors and other business contacts directly of my
new address. CofS was not in the loop. That's how I stopped it.
They never ever listen to anyone who wants to be off the mailing
lists. In fact, that's considered "entheta".
There are Do Not Contact Orders and Non Enturbulation Orders. Stephen
could be on one of those. But to find out, he'd actually have to go to
the Org since, like I said, they're truly shitty at communication.
Chances are, they're in a holding pattern and don't know WHAT to do
with Stephen. It could be weeks or months before OSA makes a decision
since they have other fish to fry- or think they do.
C
Ball of Fluff
> "Barbara Schwarz" <barbara.schw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
You won't have to wait long.
But why bother? She's a paranoiac. Certifiable. Why even bother with
someone like that? It's like asking Osama bin Laden what he thinks of
the US. Never any big surprise there...
C
realpch
Yes. I bet he presents a bit of a quandry for them right now. What to
do? What to do?
:D
Peach
Barbara Schwarz
> On Feb 26, 9:14 am, "d" <d...@example.com> wrote:
Fluffy, Claire Swazey is a hypocrite. She tells others "not to bother"
with me but shows up often enough in my threads. In other words, she
is not following her own advice. She defames me now as a kind of Bin
Laden, which is unbelievable. Claire is a cheap and hostile person, in
each fiber of her being. She supports Dave Touretzky, who has bomb
instructions on the web. But that is of course "not" terroristic. She
constantly defames also my state of mind, which means that she is a
very unsecure and disturbed person. Her stupid website also is an eye
opener of the small horizont of this woman. She is also a forger.
One day, she might be ask in court to provide evidence of that alleged
mental illness with which she libels me. And as I am not mentally ill
- but rather my defamers have lose screws - she will be ordered to pay
damages (goes also for my other defamers). She deserves it. That woman
targets me since years and she is anything but a Scientologist. Claire
claims to be a Scientologist to degrade the religion and L. Ron
Hubbard. No real Scientologist would be as low on the tone scale as
she is.
She wrote this pornographic "Flag Order" and then she forged L. Ron
Hubbard's name underneath. Swazey is a piece of lawless trash.
Barbara Schwarz
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Subject: LRH and his FOs on sex toys
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:24:10 -0800
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Flag Order 360812RB
30
March 1976
MC's Hat
Proper Use of a Clitoral Stimulator
1) Put batteries in
2) The "patient" is to be naked and ready for loooove.
3) turn it on and start. Follow the little nub of the man in the boat.
(Get a Gray's Anatomy or Luckman & Sorenson nursing text for exact
position fo the clit.).
4) As you're doing this make sure you use circular motions, pressing
hard when patient requests it.
5) When an area produces a reacton from your patient, continue to go
over and over and over it...oooohhhh ahhhhh -- what's that Diana?
Who's
yer daddy! C'mon now!
6) Continue till you hit the EP of the patient and she comes like a
ton
of bricks. Don't overrun it and get her clit sort.
Expected treatment, 5 to 50 minutes, depending on the woman.
L. Ron Hubbard
Commodore and Swordsman
LRH:DRH:dhh
========
Here is her SP declare:
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY WESTERN UNITED STATES
Senior HCO WUS ETHICS ORDER #64 9
August 2001
ALL ORGS
ALL MISSIONS
SUPPRESSIVE PERSON DECLARE
CLAIRE SWAZEY
JOHN SWAZEY
Claire and John Swazey, ex-Scientologists, are hereby declared
suppressive persons.
John and Claire have been associating with SPs for more than 2
years and
have continued to do so despite clear Church policy. They have not
been
availing themselves of the true source data but have been getting
false data
from the SPs they have been associating with. As of May 2001 they
went
beyond associating with them and started assisting them in their
attempts to
attack the Church by spreading Black PR. They have publicly disavowed
Scientology and Church management using a broad public medium and have
violated the trademarks of the church and the laws of the land.
Claire has broadcast entheta about Church management and
Scientology,
and associated with SPs using a broad public medium for more than 2
years.
On the 29th of April 2001 she publicly disavowed the Church of
Scientology
and Church Management using a broad public medium, as well as giving
enemy
lines about Senior Management terminals.
John has designed and distributed, using a broad public medium,
gross
and degrading photos using several registered trademarks. This was in
violation of trademarks and held Scientology and Church staff up to
ridicule, contempt, and scorn.
Claire has also been associating with a Church staff member
feeding him
entheta and false data about the Church resulting in his no longer
wanting
to work as a staff member in the Church.
Claire and John are guilty of the following suppressive acts:
1. PUBLIC DISAVOWAL OF SCIENTOLOGY OR SCIENTOLOGISTS IN GOOD STANDING
WITH
SCIENTOLOGY ORGANIZATIONS.
2. ENGAGING IN MALICIOUS RUMORMONGERING TO DESTROY THE AUTHORITY OR
REPUTE
OF HIGHER OFFICERS OR THE LEADING NAMES OF SCIENTOLOGY OR TO
"SAFEGUARD" A
POSITION.
3. CALCULATED EFFORTS TO DISRUPT CHURCH SERVICES OR THE FLOW OF
PUBLIC UP
THE BRIDGE THROUGH THE CHURCHES.
4. ACTS CALCULATED TO MISUSE, INVALIDATE OR ALTER-IS LEGALLY OR IN
ANY
OTHER WAY THE TRADEMARKS AND SERVICE MARKS OF DIANETICS AND
SCIENTOLOGY.
5. FAILURE TO HANDLE OR DISAVOW AND DISCONNECT FROM A PERSON
DEMONSTRABLY
GUILTY OF SUPPRESSIVE ACTS.
6. IT IS A HIGH CRIME TO PUBLICLY DEPART SCIENTOLOGY.
Any certificates or awards which may have been given to Claire and
John
Swazey are hereby cancelled. Any membership agreements they may have
signed
are also hereby cancelled and they have no right to use the Dianetics
and
Scientology marks in any manner whatsoever.
Should they come to their senses and recant they are to do the
steps A
to E as given in HCO PL 23 Dec. 65RB SUPPRESSIVE ACTS, SUPPRESSION OF
SCIENTOLOGY AND SCIENTOLOGISTS.
Their only terminal is the International Justice Chief via the
Continental Justice Chief.
WUS JUSTICE CHIEF
AUTHORIZED BY
LRH COMM CLO WUS
FOR
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY
WESTERN UNITED STATES
APPROVED BY
INTERNATIONAL JUSTICE
CHIEF
This is what otherwise is known about trailer trash and liar Claire
"Fluffy" Swazey:
I remember the time when I came to ARS. Former Scientology infiltrator
Claire Swazey (Ball of Fluff or Fluffygirl) attacked me like a lunatic
just for posting my story and opinions, and she followed me from
thread
to thread defaming me. One day she became exhausted (she is no match
for me) and she offered me a sort of peace treaty, said what she
posted
about me was not nice, but broke it by lying and bad mouthing me again
that I would suffer on mental problems. What a nasty defamer she is.
Of course Claire tries to conceal the fact that Scientology is subject
to infiltration since a long time, because she was an infiltrator in
the orgs before she decided to become the "master" of the Freezone,
stupidly thinking that all Scientologists would follow her while she
also maintain friendships with those who want to destroy Scientology.
There is likely no real Scientologist who is scratching his or her
head
about her double game.
It is save to say that Claire Swazey is on 1.1 on the tonescale.
I noticed in the newsgroup ACT that Claire has not so many friends as
she claims to have and that posters there are critical of her too.
There is also Spacetraveler who rather leans to the Freezone than the
orgs and should have things in common with her, but I also noticed
that
she attacked him and then run from the discussion and dead-filed him.
She claims to know and be friends with hundred of Scientologists and
would knows all about what they are thinking. She apparently wants to
be a mind reader, but when it comes down, she mainly is friends with a
few anti-religious extremists and not with Scientologists. She seems
unable to keep friendships with Scientologists.
Claire plays a ridiculous double role in the newsgroups, a
"Scientologist" (with lot of misunderstandings) and friend to the
people who wants to destroy her alleged religion. Not just
Scientologists find her contradictory but also critics.
Here are some excerpts of what Peregine wrote about her:
"She constantly criticises others who do not agree with her
fluffy-bunny-view of scientology and then tries to avoid any criticism
of her own position.
She's intellectually dishonest if not downright deceitful.
She's like a kid who enjoys tripping up pedestrians, and then looking
all wide-eyed and innocent and saying "but what did I do?" when they
quite rightly turn around and lambast her for it.
Her favourite red herring seems to be "tell us which type of
scientologist you are talking about". She, however, is perfectly at
liberty to use the words "scientology" and "scientologist" in
whichever
manner she chooses, without going to the trouble of definition of
type.
We're supposed to just "know" what she's talking about. It's one rule
for Claire, and another for everyone else.
She is narcissistic. If one should be foolish enough to engage in any
lengthy debate with her about one subject only. Claire.
She doesn't have the guts or the balls to challenge her own safe
little
world view.
She is a hypocrite. She *constantly* accuses others of writing things
(mostly unjustified, btw) that *she herself* has done, sometimes in
that very thread. Or she'll make the accusation in another thread, in
a
total non-sequitur, which makes it all the harder to pin her down.
She is a coward in debate. She'll bring up an issue, and then promptly
change the subject when the water gets too hot for her. Or she'll just
ignore the bits she knows she's not capable of challenging. Or she'll
bring in some total non-sequitur to deflect attention from the
argument. And then, should *that* point get too hot to handle, off we
go again, on another wild Fluffy chase, as she introduces *yet
another*
non-sequitur.
Most infuriating are her subtle jibes at people, in which the negative
implication is *quite clear*, and then trying to get out of it by
saying that oh, she never meant *that* when she wrote *this*. She's
fooling
no-one. But challenging her on it will just lead to more endless
non-sequiturs. And it's a neat tactic, much beloved of politicians and
first-year undergraduates everywhere: when you don't have the balls to
face up to the reaction you know you're going to get when you come out
with something that's not going to go down well with the audience,
just
dress it up in an ambiguous comment (making sure, though, that what
you
*mean* is clear enough) and then you've got a ready-made escape hatch
when you're challenged. You can always claim that you didn't really
*mean* such-and-such.
For someone who is so "upbeat" and "positive" she's sure got a lot of
nasty, negative things to say about those who are not taken in by Her
Fluffyness.
I could go on. But I won't. Like I said, I've had it up to here with
Fluffy."
I have to hand it to him, Claire, he figured you pretty much out. And
I
noticed often that the people with mental problem as you are those who
lie about that others have these problems.
Barbara Schwarz
>
>
>
> > "BarbaraSchwarz" <barbara.schw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Barbara Schwarz
Dave Rice talking to his own sock puppets and supporting them. How
pathetic.
--
Stephen Von Hatten
wrote:
> My old org won't talk to me anymore. I sent an e-mail a while back and
> they still haven't said anything. I've sent 2 other e-mails (all of
> them asking questions). No response yet. I think I'm being ignored.
Nevermind. I suppose I spoke too soon. They're just slow at responding.
Stephen Von Hatten
*snap* There went the lightbulb.
realpch
Ah. Did they mention anything about you posting on this newsgroup?
Stephen Von Hatten
Not to my knowledge.
barbz
>> 6. IT IS A HIGH CRIME TO PUBLICLY DEPART SCIENTOLOGY.
>
> *snap* There went the lightbulb.
>
Now you can find out how many Scientologists it takes to screw in a
lightbulb...
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
"Keep fighting for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't forget to
have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous,
ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can
produce."
--Molly Ivins
Zinj
xenu...@netscape.net says...
> Stephen Von Hatten wrote:
> >> 6. IT IS A HIGH CRIME TO PUBLICLY DEPART SCIENTOLOGY.
> >
> > *snap* There went the lightbulb.
> >
>
> Now you can find out how many Scientologists it takes to screw in a
> lightbulb...
There *is* no lightbulb.
There is no darkness; I can see perfectly (bump; crash; ouch;
thump)
'I'm mocking up my own lightbulb'
We're all PTS to some agent of Darkness!
The e-meter has a lighted dial; Thank you Ron!
d
news:MPG.205359cd2...@news2.lightlink.com...
> In article <nZeGh.2959$zJ1....@newsfe24.lga>,
> xenu...@netscape.net says...
>> Stephen Von Hatten wrote:
>> >> 6. IT IS A HIGH CRIME TO PUBLICLY DEPART SCIENTOLOGY.
>> >
>> > *snap* There went the lightbulb.
>> >
>>
>> Now you can find out how many Scientologists it takes to screw in a
>> lightbulb...
>
> There *is* no lightbulb.
> There is no darkness; I can see perfectly (bump; crash; ouch;
> thump)
>
> 'I'm mocking up my own lightbulb'
> We're all PTS to some agent of Darkness!
>
> The e-meter has a lighted dial; Thank you Ron!
That's why it costs $4,000!