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Andreas Heldal-Lund - www.xenu.net

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I am curious if this is a donation list for CoS somewhere in US.
If it is then I bet OSA will want to know where I got it from.
Can anybody help analyze and investigate this?

Here's the list:

Stoner Tim $496 741,00
Bartell Alina $464 420,00
Stedman David $398 133,00
Schippers Bert $150 113,00
Ii Mutsuya $100 000,00
Nagy Doug $100 000,00
Sorensen Dan $100 000,00
Carroll Paula $80 040,00
Smith Randy $70 000,00
Karczewski Matt $57 223,00
McLean Martin $50 241,00
Nickels Mark $45 000,00
Vineyard Bill $38 139,00
Finn Chris $37 066,40
DePhillips Tony $36 282,00
Turner Phil $31 620,00
Gabelein Stan $26 741,00
Ingallina Chris $25 500,00
Garner Paul $25 000,00
Weinstein Jay $25 000,00
Allred Bob $21 000,00
Bruning Larry $20 150,00
Nelson Rick $20 000,00
Pittsenbarger Dan $20 000,00
Lindgren Jill $17 410,00
Harris Mike $15 000,00
Baer Doug $14 860,00
Chase Gary $12 399,00
Olson Ken $11 500,00
Lackey Cyndi $11 475,00
Coronetz Kathy $11 000,00
Buss Roger $10 720,00
Dennerlein Jesse $10 500,00
Matson Joyce $10 500,00
Tjepkes Ray $10 222,00
Marxheimer Dan $10 167,44
Reiter Mel $10 150,00
Clark Kelly $10 100,00
Franklin Richard $10 010,00
Barke Jack $10 000,00
Edwards Carlton $10 000,00
Perry Virginia $10 000,00
Polikoff Larry $10 000,00
Poulsen Frank $10 000,00
Yangas Brian $10 000,00
Schmitz Dietrich $8 195,00
Howland Timothy $8 000,00
Crowley Annitta $7 500,00
Weigel Mary $7 200,00
McGinnis Eva $7 135,00
Judd Mike $7 100,00
Bennett Ralph $7 000,00
Lee Jeff $7 000,00
Deitchler Randy $6 800,00
Freng Jeanne $6 600,00
Arneson Jim $6 460,00
Ubaghs Ron $5 809,00
Tennison Niki $5 800,00
Folk Rhema $5 720,00
Riffe Don $5 500,00
Rinehart Karen $5 500,00
Spil Cabe $5 500,00
Daugherty Pat $5 300,00
Warner Richard $5 200,00
Ashton Max $5 100,00
Bromberger Ken $5 071,00
Ehrhardt Tom $5 060,00
Strickland Mike $5 050,00
Hall Jeremy $5 020,00
Lear Joline $5 001,00
Bath David $5 000,00
Chen AnAn $5 000,00
Christensen Erika $5 000,00
Elliott Mark $5 000,00
Hoverson Danar $5 000,00
Johnston Drew $5 000,00
Naughler Robert $5 000,00
Patton Mark $5 000,00
Rodriquez Ashley $5 000,00
Schenkel Ray $5 000,00
Stace Allen $5 000,00
Willson Larry $5 000,00
Rosell Debra $4 000,00
Treichel Kenneth $4 000,00
Richardson Dan $3 848,85
Williams Leonard $3 600,00
Castle Darlene $3 560,00
Bruning Ky $3 300,17
Murillo Dan $3 250,00
Clark Frank $3 215,00
Hays Jordeen $3 200,00
Karl Mary $3 000,00
Vinson Dave $3 000,00
Weigand Judy $3 000,00
Anderson Amy $2 800,00
Anderson Sandy $2 700,00
Rodriquez Steve $2 620,00
Brouwer Joe $2 550,00
Lahey Patrick $2 500,00
Masterson, Christopher $2 500,00
Price Jim $2 500,00
Renton Paul $2 500,00
Rogers Janet $2 500,00
Gibson Vicki $2 120,00
Bradley Mick $2 100,00
Garner James $2 025,00
Pawluskiewicz Kate $2 010,00
Arreyque Manuel $2 000,00
Berkley Mark $2 000,00
Bousfield Sam $2 000,00
Castillo Ken $2 000,00
Crocker Bill $2 000,00
Eccles Chet $2 000,00
Johnson Tammy $2 000,00
King Jeff $2 000,00
Masterson Danny $2 000,00
McInnes Robert $2 000,00
Parmenter Bill $2 000,00
Sather Jeffrey $2 000,00
Scattergood Dave $2 000,00
Scheerens Mike $2 000,00
Skipton Dave $2 000,00
Stevens Lorelei $2 000,00
Lawson Lisa $1 970,00
Bellevue Msn $1 700,00
Meier Beth $1 700,00
Pabst Charles $1 600,00
Hill Jesse $1 550,00
Ubaghs Bryan $1 550,00
Windland Jay $1 518,49
Montague Bill $1 510,00
Hirst Richard $1 505,00
Eccles Todd $1 500,00
Hamilton Robert $1 500,00
Livingston Marty $1 500,00
Ritson Johathan $1 500,00
Lull Julie $1 482,00
Sturges Erin $1 420,00
Livingston Anita $1 400,00
Ostrowski Mary $1 400,00
Rodriquez Angela $1 400,00
Poulsen Chris $1 255,00
Harsha Vicki $1 250,00
Horrocks Howie $1 250,00
Lane Andrea $1 225,00
Lackey Rocky $1 220,00
Pearce Ned $1 205,00
Wach Kathy $1 200,00
Lackey Leland $1 180,00
Anderson Nick $1 110,00
Dalby Chris $1 100,00
Nagano Shawn $1 100,00
Robertson Shelley $1 100,00
Wallace Diane $1 100,00
Arnold Tammy $1 088,00
Arneson Vicky $1 050,00
Abate Shelley $1 000,00
Ballard Sherry $1 000,00
Bellingham Msn $1 000,00
Chait Izzy $1 000,00
Chapp Greg $1 000,00
Douglas Richard $1 000,00
Gordon-Stairs Mary $1 000,00
Humphrey Tess $1 000,00
Lackey Lea $1 000,00
Lake Claudia $1 000,00
Ludwin Peter $1 000,00
McDannel Janice $1 000,00
McIntyre Jim $1 000,00
Michal Leah $1 000,00
Ozborne Richard $1 000,00
Pennington Jeff $1 000,00
Price Tim $1 000,00
Ringenberg Jerry $1 000,00
Seattle Msn $1 000,00
Sullivan Jori $1 000,00
Thompson Stuart $1 000,00
Havemeier Wes $950,00
Espy Wayne $906,00
Newell Gordon $900,00
Newkirk Herman $900,00
Van Meter Craig $900,00
Gagon Diane $887,00
Arnold Jim $885,00
Owens Ed $750,00
Vokey Sandy $745,20
Sharp Krista $730,00
Zurlinder Jane $725,00
Bragg Inez $700,00
Griffin Joe $700,00
Hill Dennis $700,00
Waugh Jack $700,00
Gaines James $650,00
Burkey Toni $645,00
Harwood Michael $620,00
Chandler Michelle $600,00
Harris Lee $600,00
Scott Michael $600,00
Busso Karen $550,00
Bell Catherine $500,00
Bolger Ellie $500,00
Bradley Kirk $500,00
Chatelain Mike $500,00
Ciotti Linda $500,00
Econe Dawn $500,00
Gaudreau Marc $500,00
Harris Bruce $500,00
Hudson Maria $500,00
Hurd John $500,00
Jackson Ann $500,00
Kelly Joe $500,00
Kunsemiller David $500,00
Lee Natasha $500,00
Nickels Troy $500,00
Pearson Peggy $500,00
Roberts Michael $500,00
Roberts Susan $500,00
Strickler Paul $500,00
Sullivan Maureen $500,00
Travolta John $500,00
Wagner Tom $500,00
Wysocki Christina $500,00
Bowen Faxon $450,00
Calef Deanna $450,00
St Laurent France $450,00
Wedin Linda $450,00
Elfman Jenna $400,00
Anderson Phil $350,00
Jenkins William $350,00
Korhonen Fred $350,00
Hill Dave $320,00
Tompa Andras $320,00
Fisher Mark $300,00
Gehrke Glenn $300,00
Olson Kevin $300,00
Vokey Megan $296,95
McLean Clive $280,00
O'Firinn Val $270,28
Rondeau William $260,00
Shindler Mary $255,00
Cartwright Nancy $250,00
Flabi Nick $250,00
Freng-Meeter Joel $250,00
Hanks Wally $250,00
Hobbs Janet $250,00
Montoya Rachel $250,00
Tabor Dennice $250,00
Taylor Claire $250,00
Cambigue Claudia $225,00
Lynch Kelly $225,00
Abraham Dan $200,00
Braceland Tom $200,00
Brewer Kevin $200,00
Francoeur Richer $200,00
Freedom School $200,00
Greenwood Lisa $200,00
Holzwarth Tracy $200,00
Hooser Becky $200,00
Johnson Brent $200,00
Krier George $200,00
Love Sue $200,00
Muldoon Bill $200,00
Peden Joe $200,00
Schrantz Eric $200,00
Tingdale David $200,00
Vineyard Alex $200,00
Virk Paramjit $200,00
Wooten Norma $200,00
Arnold Woody $185,00
Gravit Adina $160,00
Smith Rocky $157,54
Bagley Conan $150,00
Gegantenio Alan $150,00
Wedemeyer Kathleen $150,00
Pearce Ann $145,00
Newby Keith $140,00
Chin Mai Kuen $125,00
Rehaume Isreal $125,00
Yurdin Claire $125,00
Bell Dixie $120,00
Henninger Jeff $120,00
Unger Wayne $120,00
Humphrey Cassie $110,00
Carr Matt $100,00
Dakin Barbara $100,00
Darrow Roberta $100,00
Dickerson Bob $100,00
Forsgren Toni $100,00
Franklin Tasha $100,00
Fredrickson Robert $100,00
Gauthier Dan $100,00
Gibson Anneliese $100,00
Grantham Mert $100,00
Hobbs Winfield $100,00
Hollyman Kris $100,00
Hubbard Carol $100,00
Hubbard David $100,00
Hudson Jeff $100,00
Hudson Kelly $100,00
Humphrey Morgan $100,00
Kearton Konda $100,00
Keeney Richard $100,00
Konrad Jordan $100,00
Lee Ruby $100,00
Leonard Cookie $100,00
Manly Roxanne $100,00
McLean Stan $100,00
Morolda Joann $100,00
Patella Nick $100,00
Perry Joe $100,00
Pestrikoff Leon $100,00
Peters David $100,00
Reid Anna $100,00
Robinson Anthony $100,00
Sawtelle Lynn $100,00
Schmitz Michael $100,00
Sener Josh $100,00
Spreine Dan $100,00
Swan Andrea $100,00
Wagner Donna $100,00
Woodward John Zeke $100,00
Wallace Ashley $91,02
Lull Harrison $75,50
Blehert Bob $75,00
Hays Tessa $75,00
Hirsch Jenny $75,00
Hoffman Craig $75,00
Kelso Joe $75,00
Stoner Savana $70,00
Bond Kevin $60,00
Mackey William $60,00
Narconon Seattle $60,00
Snyder Angela $60,00
Yangas Victoria $55,00
Bladon Katie $50,00
Christopherson Chris $50,00
Coleman Bruce $50,00
Dennerlein Jake $50,00
Grantham Steve $50,00
Hagerman Linda $50,00
Lindman Lori $50,00
Mahon James $50,00
Mergens Celeste $50,00
O'Firinn Davan $50,00
Pawluskiewicz Mira $50,00
Pitt-Hammie Jerrie $50,00
Plumley Mike $50,00
Pritchard Eric $50,00
Sorensen Marla $50,00
Stewart Cheryl $50,00
Shaw Dennis $45,00
Sharples Norma $40,00
Rinehart Aaron $35,00
Lesta Roland $30,00
Marchant Deborah $30,00
Condon Sarah $25,00
Foster Vince $25,00
Livingston Valerie $25,00
Waymire Sharon $25,00
Ayer Jonathan $20,00
Crowder Doug $20,00
Hernandez Juan $20,00
O'Firinn Brendan $20,00
Reynolds Marillyn $20,00
Sather Samantha $20,00
Shultz Jonathan $20,00
Walker Ariana $20,00
Women's Auxiliary $20,00
Franklin Adam $11,00
Castillo Danny $5,00
Franklin Evan $5,00
Stoner Lucy $5,00
Wachter K $5,00

Total $3.106.706,84

More data is currently being processed, keep alert.

Best wishes,
Andreas Heldal-Lund # home.online.no/~heldal # www.xenu.net
Ph: +47 8800 6666 # Addr: Postboks 131, N-4098 Tananger, Norway
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Spacetraveler

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Mar 15, 2005, 12:30:07 PM3/15/05
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"Andreas Heldal-Lund - www.xenu.net" <hel...@online.no> wrote in message
news:4v5e31l7etgltvghs...@4ax.com...

> I am curious if this is a donation list for CoS somewhere in US.
> If it is then I bet OSA will want to know where I got it from.
> Can anybody help analyze and investigate this?

It could be an IAS donation list (listing total donations), for sure it is
not somethng that the public gets to see!

I scanned through the list to find if I recognize any of them.
Only the very last one is familiar to me:
Wachter K

If this is Kristi Wachter I am kinda puzzled as she is not in good standing
(or is this must be an old list)

Spacetraveler

Spacetraveler

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"Spacetraveler" <spacetra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:zYEZd.132556$dP1.4...@newsc.telia.net...

>
> "Andreas Heldal-Lund - www.xenu.net" <hel...@online.no> wrote in message
> news:4v5e31l7etgltvghs...@4ax.com...
> > I am curious if this is a donation list for CoS somewhere in US.
> > If it is then I bet OSA will want to know where I got it from.
> > Can anybody help analyze and investigate this?

I looked at it again when I thought of something. Why should this be US? I
find a lot of German/Scandinavian sounding names on there?

Is this list a printout for IAS money registrars who went to the orgs
'regging' (begging/demanding) for money. I believe they had such lists, they
were always able to tell to each how much some person already had donated by
consulting a paper they had with them. My best quess is that this list comes
from AOSH EU in Denmark and was given to an IAS 'regger' who regged in
Germany and Scandinavia.

Spacetraveler


theo

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Mar 15, 2005, 1:33:15 PM3/15/05
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might try searching the net for a
few of the names and word combinations.


stevej...@yahoo.com

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Mar 15, 2005, 1:37:51 PM3/15/05
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You might be in violation of some law in posting this, depending on
where it comes from and how it was obtained.

Zinj

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Mar 15, 2005, 2:14:28 PM3/15/05
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In article <ZuFZd.132562$dP1.4...@newsc.telia.net>, spacetraveler2000
@hotmail.com says...

This too is weirdly (for Spacey) competent english grammar and spelling,
not to mention coherent thought.

Who stole our Spacetraveler!??
Bring him back!!!

Zinj
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Scientology is brilliant in not only sneaking in pavlovian conditioning
(along with the hypnotic elements), but also demanding that Polly
provide his *own* cracker! Unique! Brilliant! Efficient! Thank you Ron!

Quaoar

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Mar 15, 2005, 3:05:48 PM3/15/05
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Andreas Heldal-Lund - www.xenu.net wrote:
> I am curious if this is a donation list for CoS somewhere in US.
> If it is then I bet OSA will want to know where I got it from.
> Can anybody help analyze and investigate this?
>
> Here's the list:
>
> Stoner Tim $496 741,00 **Seattle, WA**
> Bartell Alina $464 420,00 **US Citizen**
> Stedman David $398 133,00 **OT8 Freewinds 54**
> Schippers Bert $150 113,00 **Renton, WA**
> Ii Mutsuya $100 000,00 **L11, L12 Source 74**
> Nagy Doug $100 000,00 **ASHOD Word Clearer**(?!$$?!?)
> Sorensen Dan $100 000,00 **IAS Honor Roll**
> Carroll Paula $80 040,00 **Celeb 335, Freewinds 55**
> Smith Randy $70 000,00 **Scieno from 1970**
> Karczewski Matt $57 223,00 **Bellevue, WA, Nuclear Physicist"

This surely is a US list of some type, and looks to be donations in
Washington state based on the three clear residence references.

Q


Spacetraveler

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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, "Spacetraveler" <spacetra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"Andreas Heldal-Lund - www.xenu.net" <hel...@online.no> wrote in message
>news:4v5e31l7etgltvghs...@4ax.com...
>> I am curious if this is a donation list for CoS somewhere in US.
>> If it is then I bet OSA will want to know where I got it from.
>> Can anybody help analyze and investigate this?
>
>It could be an IAS donation list (listing total donations), for sure it is
>not somethng that the public gets to see!
>
>I scanned through the list to find if I recognize any of them.
>Only the very last one is familiar to me:
>Wachter K
>
>If this is Kristi Wachter I am kinda puzzled as she is not in good standing
>(or is this must be an old list)

Good catch, mate!

Andrew Robertson

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"Andreas Heldal-Lund - www.xenu.net" <hel...@online.no> wrote in message
news:4v5e31l7etgltvghs...@4ax.com...
>I am curious if this is a donation list for CoS somewhere in US.
> If it is then I bet OSA will want to know where I got it from.
> Can anybody help analyze and investigate this?

It's northern European, note the comma instead of the decimal point.

The usual suspects:

> Weigand Judy $3 000,00
> Masterson, Christopher $2 500,00
> Masterson Danny $2 000,00
> Chait Izzy $1 000,00
> Bell Catherine $500,00
> Travolta John $500,00
> Elfman Jenna $400,00
> Cartwright Nancy $250,00
> Wachter K $5,00

Wachter K? Oh well, it was only $5.

Andrew

henri

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Mar 15, 2005, 4:35:41 PM3/15/05
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:18:14 +0100, Andreas Heldal-Lund - www.xenu.net
<hel...@online.no> wrote:

>I am curious if this is a donation list for CoS somewhere in US.
>If it is then I bet OSA will want to know where I got it from.
>Can anybody help analyze and investigate this?
>
>Here's the list:

>Wachter K $5,00

I somehow doubt Kristi Wachter is a Scientology donor.

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Dave Touretzky

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In article <4237...@news2.lightlink.com>,

Andrew Robertson <a...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>It's northern European, note the comma instead of the decimal point.

Andreas is certainly in Europe, and his informant might be in Europe,
but the original information could still have come from a US source.
The comma/period switch might be an artifact of how the information
was converted to text form for posting. Did Andreas convert it
himself? His software presumably follows the European conventions.

Do we know anything about the high-dollar donors?

-- Dave Touretzky

Andreas Heldal-Lund - www.xenu.net

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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:35:42 +1300, "Andrew Robertson"
<a...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>It's northern European, note the comma instead of the decimal point.

I did that. The list is from US.

Andreas Heldal-Lund - www.xenu.net

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Mar 16, 2005, 1:32:41 AM3/16/05
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Can you hear the panic from the OSA office? ;)

The numbers in the previous post were donations _to_date_.

This is the size and date of the _latest_ donations for the top
11 names:

Stoner Tim Feb 14 2005 $343.553 250
Bartell Alina Feb 20 2005 $20 250
Stedman David Feb 13 2005 $133.333 250
Schippers Bert Feb 20 2005 $13 150
Ii Mutsuya Feb 14 2005 $35.000 100
Nagy Doug Des 7 2004 $29.000 100
Sorensen Dan Feb 13 2005 $25.000 100
Carroll Paula Feb 20 2005 $20 75
Smith Randy Feb 15 2005 $2.000 50
Karczewski Matt Feb 14 2005 $5.000 50
McLean Martin Feb 13 2005 $20.240 50

The last column is their "donor level".

Tilman Hausherr

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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:32:41 +0100, Andreas Heldal-Lund - www.xenu.net
<hel...@online.no> wrote:

>Can you hear the panic from the OSA office? ;)
>
>The numbers in the previous post were donations _to_date_.
>
>This is the size and date of the _latest_ donations for the top
>11 names:

let's test the first:

>Stoner Tim Feb 14 2005 $343.553 250

http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0132/letters-readers.shtml
http://www.oursites.org/timstoner/myself.htm

"Today I have a large successful electronics business with 30 employees"

http://www.omnitronix.com/

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Dave Touretzky

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One of the many Scientology infiltrators who lurk on this channel wrote
to me about this list, Andreas.

It's the donation list for the Seattle Org Building and Renovation Fund.

Looks like somebody in Seattle wants to do a little whistle blowing.
I wonder what else might be lurking on their hard drive...?

-- Dave Touretzky: unpaid antagonist.
http://LisaClause.org http://PerkinsTragedy.org

roger gonnet

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Could you join it for us to learn what they call "donations" there?

r

"Dave Touretzky" <d...@cs.cmu.edu> a écrit dans le message de news:
42381868$1...@news2.lightlink.com...

Spacetraveler

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<snip Gerry Armstrong "Spacetraveler impersonator">
posted as: Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header (Spacetraveler)
through: mail...@dizum.com

The Spacetraveler impersonator Gerry Armstrong is still at it...!

1. Analyze the style of the imposter postings, then compare with authentic
Gerry Armstrong postings.

2. Here gives Gerry Armstrong himself away: http://tinyurl.com/42nbb
Read his post and my response, judge for yourself...!

3. Here Gerry is adding a copyright when he forges me:
http://tinyurl.com/5a46z
As far as I have seen only Gery armstrong is in the habit of adding
copyrights on usernames.

4. We are missing Gerry's responses to my posts at about the same time that
"Spacetraveler impersonator" did his entry on the ARS.

For complaints: ab...@dizum.com
Reason: impersonating another persons username and identity

So, don't trust the Spacetraveler postings posted as:
Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header (Spacetraveler)
and through: mail...@dizum.com

Spacetraveler

roger gonnet

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<stevej...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1110911871.2...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> You might be in violation of some law in posting this, depending on
> where it comes from and how it was obtained.

Why would he be?

He asks who is giving money to a scam, after all.
And that's not criminal to be scammed by a fraud, did you know that, OSAer?
r
>


stevej...@yahoo.com

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> > You might be in violation of some law in posting this, depending on
> > where it comes from and how it was obtained.
>
> Why would he be?

If the list was stolen, for instance. I could also mention that he
has no idea if the information on the list is true or not and what
possible harm it might do to the people listed.

Kim P

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stevej...@yahoo.com wrote:

BE AFRAID - I am so tired of hearing that message from culties and from
the Bush administration ( not that there is a whole lot of difference
between cults and bush's administration). we are supposed to be so
afraid of saying anything wrong ( read negative) about the group so
we are in effect told to shut up and go away.

Anyone who dares speak the truth about a cult will be slaughtered
(metaphorically speaking of course) - shuddered into silence in
scienospeak. We are not allowed to see the little man behind the
curtain manipulating the image in front of us.

Be afraid be afraid - fear is a control mechanism used by cults to hide
the truth from anyone who raises any questions.

Trust not the leader who uses fear and intimdation to prove his/her power.

Kim Palmer

stevej...@yahoo.com

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Mar 18, 2005, 10:43:20 AM3/18/05
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> Trust not the leader who uses fear and intimidation to prove his/her
power.

Would you also reject the use of fear and intimidation by the critics
of Scientology?

roger gonnet

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<stevej...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1111159480.3...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Well, such a remark from an OSA crime cult bad coups assoc is interesting
enough: very few files have disappeared from my 5 anti-scientology websites;
between the few ones which were erased without me doing it, were the sums
won by some cultists:

Find out in
www.xenufrance.net

specifically:
http://www.xenufrance.net/scientology-managers-salaries-q3a-c-iii.pdf
and
http://www.xenufrance.net/scientology-fsms-profits-q3a-c-i.pdf
and
http://www.xenufrance.net/pay-miscavige-and-starkey-families-q3-a-c-ii.pdf


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