Human Rights Award for Bob Minton
Joe's Garage
staged events into a black art. Victims of Scientology and their
relatives, however, will be happy to hear that one of the most active
supporters of their cause, Bob Minton, will be receiving a human rights
award for his efforts on their behalf.
Minton will be presented with the Alternate Charlemagne Award in Leipzig,
Germany on June 3, 2000. The city of Leipzig was chosen because it was
the site of the first in a series of demonstrations in former East Germany
which presaged the fall of the Berlin wall. This is significant, among
other reasons, because of similarities between the "unofficial staff
members" of the former East German Ministry of Security, and the "field
staff members" of Scientology's Office for Special Affairs today.
The award site is http://www.alt-charlemagne-award.de.
Joe Cisar http://cisar.org
Both fictional and real-life material written by the above author
have been banned by Scientology. He supports accurate reporting
on the practices of Scientology in the USA and around the world.
El Roto
McKean Sr" <mikemc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Will that post get you a raise in pay from Bob?
>
>Mike
>
Poor Mike. The German Bankers pay for those posts. Or is it the
Tangyaka conspiracy group? Perhaps it's the drug companies and
their eevil psychlos.
Or maybe, just maybe, it's the truth and that's what you find the
hardest to understand.
Steve G.
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Joe's Garage <swa...@xenu.net> wrote in article
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Byll23
>Will that post get you a raise in pay from Bob?
>
Wow, Bob must really be rich if he can afford to pay _everyone_ who ever
posts anything against the CoS. I mean, let's look at in terms of numbers: Even
if he were only paying us 5 cents for each post, that would still be _millions_
of dollars every year. Not to mention all those pickets! And he can still
afford to pay for the Prozac that gets dumped into the drinking water. Wow, I
wish I were that rich and powerful. If he's that well off, "Mike", your
"Church" is doomed and nothing you can do will save it. Abase yourself before
Bob. It's the only way to save yourself.
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From: "Mike McKean Sr" <mikemc...@earthlink.net>.
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net.
Wrote on the subject: Re: Human Rights Award for Bob Minton:
>Will that post get you a raise in pay from Bob?
>
>Mike
No, but an apartment on 726 McClellan Street, Philadelphia, PA
19148-1711.
Sten-Arne
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roger gonnet
"Byll23" <byl...@aol.com> a écrit dans le message news:
20000507235550...@ng-ca1.aol.com...
> "Mike" McKean wrote:
>
> >Will that post get you a raise in pay from Bob?
> >
>
ever
> posts anything against the CoS. I mean, let's look at in terms of numbers:
Even
> if he were only paying us 5 cents for each post, that would still be
_millions_
> of dollars every year. Not to mention all those pickets! And he can still
> afford to pay for the Prozac that gets dumped into the drinking water.
Wow, I
> wish I were that rich and powerful. If he's that well off, "Mike", your
> "Church" is doomed and nothing you can do will save it. Abase yourself
before
> Bob. It's the only way to save yourself.
well, they asked journalists here if was paid by Bob...
Yes!! He paid me 350000 $ commission (on a secret swiss bank account!!
haha!!) to buy a first castle - a fortidied 15th century one, so I took 5 %
!
I've now more money than ever... to spend on the numerous critics, suits and
so forth to attack scientology in Europe, and I'm giving lots of receptions
in some 3 stars top best wwide restaurants, to Senators, deputies, ministers
sometimes, to convince them to pass a new law against scientology only!!
hahaha!!!
I also invite to whores together, and I take photos in case scienos would
pay them more than me, so I've lots of blackmailing in my pockets!!!!!
hahahha!!!
roger
Joe's Garage
> On Mon, 08 May 2000 02:48:22 GMT.
> In Message-ID: <01bfb897$dd694760$7fea1a26@compaq-lte-5250>
> From: "Mike McKean Sr" <mikemc...@earthlink.net>.
> Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net.
> Wrote on the subject: Re: Human Rights Award for Bob Minton:
>
> >Will that post get you a raise in pay from Bob?
> >
> >Mike
>
> No, but an apartment on 726 McClellan Street, Philadelphia, PA
> 19148-1711.
Isn't that where the 3,000 Swedish Scientologists live?
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In Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.10005...@darkstar.zippy>
From: Joe's Garage <swa...@xenu.net>.
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com.
Wrote on the subject: Re: Human Rights Award for Bob Minton:
>On Mon, 8 May 2000, ©Anti-Cult® - www.users.wineasy.se/noname/ wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 08 May 2000 02:48:22 GMT.
>> In Message-ID: <01bfb897$dd694760$7fea1a26@compaq-lte-5250>
>> From: "Mike McKean Sr" <mikemc...@earthlink.net>.
>> Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net.
>> Wrote on the subject: Re: Human Rights Award for Bob Minton:
>>
>> >Will that post get you a raise in pay from Bob?
>> >
>> >Mike
>>
>> No, but an apartment on 726 McClellan Street, Philadelphia, PA
>> 19148-1711.
>
>Isn't that where the 3,000 Swedish Scientologists live?
>
>Joe Cisar http://cisar.org
Yes, either that or the CCHR shills, I'd say.
Mike McKean Sr
Now who's acting like a terrorist, I wonder. hmmmm? :-)
Mike
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<The.Galacti...@ThePentagon.com> wrote in article
<t0lchschfbfoesg89...@ARSCC.Sweden.Dep.OSA.Surveillance>...
> On Mon, 08 May 2000 02:48:22 GMT.
> In Message-ID: <01bfb897$dd694760$7fea1a26@compaq-lte-5250>
> From: "Mike McKean Sr" <mikemc...@earthlink.net>.
> Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net.
> Wrote on the subject: Re: Human Rights Award for Bob Minton:
>
> >Will that post get you a raise in pay from Bob?
> >
> >Mike
>
> No, but an apartment on 726 McClellan Street, Philadelphia, PA
> 19148-1711.
>
> Sten-Arne
>
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In Message-ID: <01bfb983$cf5b8880$86eb1a26@compaq-lte-5250>
From: "Mike McKean Sr" <mikemc...@earthlink.net>.
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net.
Wrote on the subject: Re: Human Rights Award for Bob Minton:
>Well Sten-Arne, it's actually a house, not an apartment.
>Now who's acting like a terrorist, I wonder. hmmmm? :-)
>
>Mike
>
Ive been taught by the best, and only the best. Your cult started this
Mike, and if you think for one moment that your cult is the only one
that can out people, you'd better rethink that. I have tons of more info
about you and your cult shill friends coming. Let's see if you like it
when you are on the receiving end.
Joe's Garage
> Will that post get you a raise in pay from Bob?
A "do you still beat your wife" type question. Now I'll have to revise
the posted message (if you respond again, please include the post in your
reply, since the posted message is what you are supposed to be responding
to):
Scientology is a totalist organization which has refined "do you still
beat your wife" type questions, marketing, PR and staged events into a
black art. Victims of Scientology and their relatives, however, will be
happy to hear that one of the most active supporters of their cause, Bob
Minton, will be receiving a human rights award for his efforts on their
behalf.
Minton will be presented with the Alternate Charlemagne Award in Leipzig,
Germany on June 3, 2000. The city of Leipzig was chosen because it was
the site of the first in a series of demonstrations in former East Germany
which presaged the fall of the Berlin wall. This is significant, among
other reasons, because of similarities between the "unofficial staff
members" of the former East German Ministry of Security, and the "field
staff members" of Scientology's Office for Special Affairs today.
The award site is http://www.alt-charlemagne-award.de.
Joe Cisar http://cisar.org
Both fictional and real-life material written by the above author
have been banned by Scientology. He supports accurate reporting
on the practices of Scientology in the USA and around the world.
>
dtom...@my-deja.com
Garage <swa...@xenu.net> wrote:> Scientology is a totalist organization
which has refined marketing, PR and> staged events into a black art. Victims
of Scientology and their> relatives, however, will be happy to hear that one
of the most active> supporters of their cause, Bob Minton, will be receiving
a human rights> award for his efforts on their behalf.>> Minton will be
presented with the Alternate Charlemagne Award in Leipzig,> Germany on June
3, 2000. The city of Leipzig was chosen because it was> the site of the
first in a series of demonstrations in former East Germany> which presaged
the fall of the Berlin wall. This is significant, among> other reasons,
because of similarities between the "unofficial staff> members" of the former
East German Ministry of Security, and the "field> staff members" of
Scientology's Office for Special Affairs today.>> The award site is
hoot. Dinner and drinks onBob!! Don't forget to post directions so we can all
join in on thisfestive occasion.I can just hear the clicking of Tilman's
heals and the ringing of: "Heil Bob!"Leipzeg, uhhhhh, urmmmmm, ah...that
wouldn't be the home of Psychiatrywould
it????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????On June 18,
1940, British psychiatrist, Col . John R. Rees, M.D.,delivered a speech
entitled "Strategic Planning for Mental Health" tothe United Kingdom's
National Council for Mental Hygiene wherein he stated:"We must aim to make it
(psychiatry) permeate every educational activityin our national life....
Public life, politics and industry should allof them be within our sphere of
influence.... we have done much toinfiltrate the various social organizations
throughout the country...Similarly we have made a useful attack upon a number
of professions.The two easiest of them naturally are the teaching profession
and theChurch...If we are to infiltrate the professional and social
activities of otherpeople I think we must imitate the Totalitarians and
organize some kindof fifth column activity! ... It really wouldn't matter if
no one everheard of this Council again provided that the work was done. Let
usall, therefore, very secretly be 'fifth columnists.'"Rees was appointed to
the British War Office and by the end of the warhad over 300 psychiatrists in
the British Armed Forces as "fifthcolumnists" to help implement his strategic
plan.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
dirkw...@my-deja.com
> Minton will be presented with the Alternate Charlemagne Award in
Leipzig,
> Germany on June 3, 2000. The city of Leipzig was chosen because it
was
> the site of the first in a series of demonstrations in former East
Germany
> which presaged the fall of the Berlin wall. This is significant,
among
> other reasons, because of similarities between the "unofficial staff
> members" of the former East German Ministry of Security, and the
"field
> staff members" of Scientology's Office for Special Affairs today.
This, quite frankly, makes no sense to me. I am from East Germany
originally, and this comparison is totally stupid. You obviously have no
clue whatsoever.
The explanation about Leipzig having been chosen due to being the birth
site of modern days psychology (Wundt) is a lot more logical, especially
since half of the people connected to this award seem to have been psych
patients at one point or another or are still on psych drugs today. I
guess these puppets will feel more at home in Leipzig...
Dirk
>
> The award site is http://www.alt-charlemagne-award.de.
>
> Joe Cisar http://cisar.org
> Both fictional and real-life material written by the above author
> have been banned by Scientology. He supports accurate reporting
> on the practices of Scientology in the USA and around the world.
>
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Joe's Garage <swa...@xenu.net> wrote in article
> > <Pine.LNX.3.96.10005...@darkstar.zippy>...
barb
Oh, my dear! Those people are not on psyche drugs, they're
scientologists! I know it's confusing, and most of them probably SHOULD
be on psyche drugs, but that's what scientology does to your mind.
--barb
"Every week, every month, every year, every decade and now
every century, Scientology does wierd and stupid things
to damage its own reputation."
-Steve Zadarnowski
Joe's Garage
> dirkw...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > This, quite frankly, makes no sense to me. I am from East Germany
> > originally, and this comparison is totally stupid. You obviously have no
> > clue whatsoever.
> >
> > The explanation about Leipzig having been chosen due to being the birth
> > site of modern days psychology (Wundt) is a lot more logical, especially
> > since half of the people connected to this award seem to have been psych
> > patients at one point or another or are still on psych drugs today. I
> > guess these puppets will feel more at home in Leipzig...
> >
> > Dirk
>
> Oh, my dear! Those people are not on psyche drugs, they're
> scientologists! I know it's confusing, and most of them probably SHOULD
> be on psyche drugs, but that's what scientology does to your mind.
> --barb
A Scientologist could no more criticize Scientology than a drunk could
walk a straight line.
I don't know if you read about an Austrian Scientologist, Gottfried
Helnwein, but while he was suing people for saying he was a Scientologist
when he actually was a Scientologist, but pretending not to be, he had to
get special permission from Scientology to publicly say "I shit on
Scientology" so that he would not be subject to ethics actions.
Joe's Garage
>> In article <Pine.LNX.3.96.10005...@darkstar.zippy>,
>> Joe's Garage <swa...@xenu.net> wrote:
>>> Minton will be presented with the Alternate Charlemagne Award in
Leipzig, Germany on June 3, 2000. The city of Leipzig was chosen because
it was the site of the first in a series of demonstrations in former East
Germany which presaged the fall of the Berlin wall. This is significant,
among other reasons, because of similarities between the "unofficial staff
members" of the former East German Ministry of Security, and the "field
staff members" of Scientology's Office for Special Affairs today. <<<
> This, quite frankly, makes no sense to me. I am from East Germany
> originally, and this comparison is totally stupid. You obviously have no
> clue whatsoever.
Please do enlighten me. It would be both informative and entertaining for
you to state the similarities and differences between the unofficial staff
members of the former East German Ministry of Security and the field staff
members of Scientology's Office for Special Affairs.
Here, I'll start, since I anticipate, for whatever reason I cannot
imagine, that you will have difficulty communicating in this natter, I
mean matter:
1. Scientology OSA field staff members religiously practice Scientology.
2. Ministry of Security unofficial staff members religiously practiced
East German Communism.
1. It is politicy for Scientology OSA to never accept field staff members
(FSMs) who volunteer for an assignment.
2. It was policy for Ministry of Security to never accept unofficial staff
members (we'll just call them IMs. That stands for for "Inoffizielle
Mitarberiter," but of course I don't need to explain that to you since you
are originally from a place you are calling "East Germany") who
volunteered for an assignment.
[Please add informative and entertaining similarities and contrasts here.]
Ed
how Leipzig was the place where materialistic psychology and
psychiatry (i.e., man has no soul and is just a meat body) got
started, financed heavily I believe by Bismarck, from whence it spread
through Europe and the US because "the very best people" found it
useful for keeping the masses subdued and obedient.
Ed
realpch
[snip}
> A Scientologist could no more criticize Scientology than a drunk could
> walk a straight line.
>
> I don't know if you read about an Austrian Scientologist, Gottfried
> Helnwein, but while he was suing people for saying he was a Scientologist
> when he actually was a Scientologist, but pretending not to be, he had to
> get special permission from Scientology to publicly say "I shit on
> Scientology" so that he would not be subject to ethics actions.
>
> Joe Cisar http://cisar.org
Well I've been hanging around the aol Battlefield Earth chat room a bit
and had the predictable experience of being im'ed by someone who was
praising the movie and suggesting that people make up their own minds
about it. I asked him if he were a scientologist and he said he wasn't.
We had a long chat and he asked me a number of questions. I must say, he
was particularly interested when I told him of the two recent incidents
where pc folder material had been used to taunt ex-members at pickets.
His final final message to me was somewhat of a non-sequitar:
Warren T Void: Well I think you should come clean of all your overts and
withholds and crimes against the most ethical group on this planet,
someday scientology may be able to help you too like it did me and my
family.
Oh dear! : )
Peach
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From: realpch <rea...@aol.com>.
Organization: Lightlink Internet.
Wrote on the subject: Re: Human Rights Award for Bob Minton:
>Joe's Garage wrote:
Oh my, oh my, and he said he wasn't a scientologist. Hehe, reminds me of
a picket I attended, where the scientologists told folks that passed by,
that we were the scientologists, just to make people take their
"scientology" flyers, and not ours :-)
I guess they feel so ashamed of being scientologists. They know that
most people would refuse their bullshit propaganda, so instead they
tried to pin "scientologists" on the critics.
This UFO cult is getting more weird by the minutes it seems.
Yeah yeah...
Sten-Arne
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NOTES ON PTS
There are BTs who were PTS to successive persons; they went
from one person to another, e.g. BT went from Pre-OT's grandfather,
to Pre-OT's mother, to Pre-OT. So the Pre-OT now has BTs who were PTS
to mother and grandfather. And the Pre-OT was in contact with these
BTs when they were on mother, and earlier in the Pre-OT's life when
the BTs were on grandfather. This transfer of BTs to successive family
members causes a genetic misidentification - it convinces BTs that
they are genetic.
There are also BTs who went PTS to a person that they were PTS
to in an earlier life or lives. They run into the same person in this
lifetime and go into restim.
--NED for OTs Series 35
LRH:dm:kjm
Copyright (c) 1978
by L. Ron Hubbard
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
Joe's Garage
> Joe's Garage wrote:
> [snip}
> > A Scientologist could no more criticize Scientology than a drunk could
> > walk a straight line.
> >
> > I don't know if you read about an Austrian Scientologist, Gottfried
> > Helnwein, but while he was suing people for saying he was a Scientologist
> > when he actually was a Scientologist, but pretending not to be, he had to
> > get special permission from Scientology to publicly say "I shit on
> > Scientology" so that he would not be subject to ethics actions.
> >
> > Joe Cisar http://cisar.org
>
> Well I've been hanging around the aol Battlefield Earth chat room a bit
> and had the predictable experience of being im'ed by someone who was
> praising the movie and suggesting that people make up their own minds
> about it. I asked him if he were a scientologist and he said he wasn't.
He was operating under a "shore story." Scientologists are only allowed
to say they are Scientologists when they are authorized. From the
Handbook of Scientology Ethics:
Offenses which are treated in Scientology as Crimes are:
- Impersonating a Scientologist or staff member when not authorized;
So if he would have admitted to being a Scientologist, he would have been
committing a Scientology Crime, and could have had to pay some pretty
stiff ethics fines. Of course he might not know that he was operating for
OSA.
While I am still waiting with not so bated breath for my "East German" to
hop back on this thread, I have a riddle. Is the following the definition
of a "shore story" for an OSA FSM such as the aol chat person above, or is
it the definition of a "Legende" for an Inoffizielle Mitarbeiter [IM] of
the former East Germany Ministry of Security [MfS]:
Shore story/Legende: credible pretext through which persons will be
deceived in the mission work about the true goals and intention of
Scientology/MfS, for the purpose of causing them to reveal/hand over
certain information which is necessary to the mission, or motivate
behavior needed for the completion of a mission, thereby guaranteeing the
integrity of the operatives, the means and methods of Scientology/MfS.
The bases for the shore story are ostensible motive, reasons, explanations
and testimony which rely extensively on real events capable of being
verified, true to life and credible. Shore stories are used primarily by
operatives in political work.
In applying a shore story, the following must be considered:
- interests which determine the conduct of the target person,
- passability of the operative
- the furthermost application of real events
- reality, flexibility and development potential.
A prerequisite for working out an effective shore story is the definition
of the goal to be obtained, specifically: which persons are to be moved
to which conduct,
Other considerations in developing a shore story are: the assessment of
the target persons, especially their biases, interests, habits and
attitude, and conflicts between their thinking, attitude and behavior.
The moral of this story is that religion is a shore story for Scientology.
Here are some pointers to documentation on Scientology's political
operations, for anybody who wants further information:
Mike McClaughry reminesces about his days as a Scientology spy
http://www.primenet.com/~xenubat/transcript/Mike1.html
http://www.primenet.com/~xenubat/transcript/Mike2.html
http://www.primenet.com/~xenubat/transcript/Mike3.html
http://www.primenet.com/~xenubat/transcript/Mike4.html
Scientology's Intelligence Service
- Principles, Missions, Structures, Methods and Goals -
(This booklet was originally published in the German language
by the Hamburg Regional Office of the German Constitutional
Security Agency.]
http://cisar.org/trn1050.htm
GO/OSA documents captured during Greek raids after Scientology
was granted religious status by US IRS tax service - shows that
Scientology still performs spy work.
http://www.xenu.net/archive/greece/
Scientology's Brainwashing manual of psycho-politics
http://wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de/~krasel/CoS/books/brain-manual.html
The Scientology Manual of Justice. Scientology defines "justice"
as the following:
1.Intelligence Activities
2.Investigation of Evidence
3.Judgment or Punishment
4.Rehabilitation.
http://www.innernet.net/joecisar/ars1007.htm
Comprehensive documentation of Scientology's Secret Service,
includes text to "The Spy And His Masters," a book used
by Scientology in how to be a spy.
http://wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de/~cowen/go/
Joe Cisar http://cisar.org
Critics do nice things - http://www.alt-charlemagne-award.de
Ted Mayett
wrote:
> Offenses which are treated in Scientology as Crimes are:
> - Impersonating a Scientologist or staff member when not authorized;
>
I'll be darned, never knew this. It is covered in the folowing HCOPL:
-----------
HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
HCO POLICY LETTER OF 7 MARCH 1965
Issue III
Gen Non-Remimeo
Post Org Public
Boards HCO (DIVISION 1)
JUSTICE OFFENSES & PENALTIES
---------------
It is listed in OEC Vols 0 and 1