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The old R6EW and old Clearing Course and Power V and VA all in Robert Kaufman's Inside Scientology book

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chuckb...@aol.com

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Aug 2, 2005, 1:30:07 AM8/2/05
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For anyone's information, the old Power V and VA
and R6EW and the old Clearing Course is all laid
out in Robert Kaufman's excellent book:
"Inside Scientology".

One the major non-perks of being in Scientology
for those who for whatever reasons failed to
get up the Bridge (like me, I was 27 years in
the Scientology movement, and only go to Grade 0
(Communications Release, and I never completed
even Grade 0!), one of the non-perks was some of
us NEVER got the spiritual goodies, nor found
out what the inside info on these spiritual
goodies was.

I always wanted to see what the damn Power V, VA
and R6EW and Clearing Course used to be.

Robert Kaufman's book "Inside Scientology"
which I got from my local Pittsburgh
Library lays out these levels of Hubbard's
Bridge.

Paulette Cooper's book "Scandal of Scientology"
and Robert Kauman's book "Inside Scientology"
exhaustively cover things about Scientology
in the 60's which are just as valid today.

Both are excellent books that I recommend people who
were in Scientology to read.

Best, Chuck Beatty
chuckbeatty77 @aol.com
412-260-1170

Larry T.

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Aug 2, 2005, 1:32:37 AM8/2/05
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<chuckb...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> For anyone's information, the old Power V and VA
> and R6EW and the old Clearing Course is all laid
> out in Robert Kaufman's excellent book:
> "Inside Scientology".
>
> One the major non-perks of being in Scientology
> for those who for whatever reasons failed to
> get up the Bridge (like me, I was 27 years in
> the Scientology movement, and only go to Grade 0
> (Communications Release, and I never completed
> even Grade 0!), one of the non-perks was some of
> us NEVER got the spiritual goodies, nor found
> out what the inside info on these spiritual
> goodies was.

Chuck:

How can that be?

You worked at Int?

I don't believe a word you are saying because I
already know you are fucking Clear.

--
Larry T.
http://mysite.verizon.net/resqjfym/larry/

chuckb...@aol.com

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Aug 2, 2005, 2:00:40 AM8/2/05
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You are so impolite. You don't know
me if you "know I am clear". I am not.

Hey, but I do know some of the people in
your sad New York Org story. I remember
Bruce Dobin, and some of the other
staff that hassled you at NY Org.
Sorry about your runaround there.

Even though I would not recommend
anyone get into Scientology at this point,
I do think they should have treated you
better!

Got any photos of yourself?

Chuck Beatty

Larry T.

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Aug 2, 2005, 2:03:55 AM8/2/05
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<chuckb...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Chuck:

Be honest hear.

You will never find me in a place like the Operation Clambake Message Board,
if you know me or not.

But be serious for a moment?

You were in Scientology for 27 years and you did not even go Clear?

What the hell did they do to you?

And about that Bruce Dobin guy, fuck him , he is an ass.

Where do you know him from anyway, you were in California?

chuckb...@aol.com

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Aug 2, 2005, 2:49:03 AM8/2/05
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I started at Phoenix org, late May 1975.
Did the Intro to Scn Course.
Then HQS Course
Then HSDC (Hubbard Standard Dianetics Course)
Then started the HSDC Internship.
Then in Dec 1975 went to LA to join the Sea Org.
Got shipped to Flag, as a new SO Member, Dec 18, 1975
Arrived at FSO and was there from Dec 75 till Jun/Jul 83
First I was TTC FSO, failed as an auditor.
Became Asst Supervisor for the Admin Courses
That's when I met lots of Class IV Org exec trainees & staff.
Between Jul 77 and Jul 83 that's when I met NY Org staff trainees.
In Jul 83 went to Int for the Routing Forms Pjt
84-87 in LA, in Senior HCO Int
88 I was re-training for Course Sup posting
Late 88 went to Int for OEC Checksheet Pjt
Failed OEC Pjt and RPFed
1 month on the Int RPF, Feb 89
2 months on PAC RPF, till May 89
Back as Course Sup at LA (HGB building, in the Int Training Org)
Aug/Sept 89 back onto Routing Forms Pjt, INCOMM this time.
Busted off the Pjt in Sep 90.
INCOMM (Computer Network for the Church) Sep90 - May 92
May 92 went to ASI to be their Computer person
Busted and sent to Int for decks, Dec 95
Decks at Int from Dec 95 til Jun/Jul 96
Int RPF at ranch (Happy Valley) Jul 96 - Nov 2000
PAC RPF (LA) Nov 2000 - Mar 2003.
Routed out of Sea Org, Mar 29, 2003.
Lived in LA Apr 2003 - Jun 2004.
Moved to Pittsburgh, July 2004 to now.

Why are you so doubtful?

What did you think of Emma Dobin?
Did you ever know Emma Jamieson?

Chuck

roger gonnet

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Aug 2, 2005, 3:40:21 AM8/2/05
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Hi Chuck!


Don't waste time to answer to LarryT: he's a troll; never saying what he thinks
really or who he could be. Unuseful here.

(I observe that we satrted scn almost at the same time; I started in aug 1974 in
the then only french mission (an uncle of mine and his friend John McGrew had
launched it). I went to Paris org for the first time in jan 1975 if my meory
serves.

roger


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Larry T.

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Aug 2, 2005, 10:02:39 AM8/2/05
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Chuck:

Emma is still married to Bart and they moved to Florida I believe.
And Alma Jamieson (her name is not Emma Jamieson) was the
only one of two black people on Foundation staff in New York.
She was a good EO, but she blew.

I will tell you the truth, Bart and I *did* have pretty good ARC
with one another, but I always considered Emma a little massy.
Pre-OT's like Susan B. Davis (i.e. the thieving lying person who
was OT IIIx and worked in the *Treasury*) used to third party
Emma a lot to other OT III's like Eric Krackow and Hara Klien
O'Hare and call Emma "EMAR" and say it was pointless to work
with Emma on anything, even though Emma was the SSO, which
is a pretty important HAT in an Org.

Chuck, my niece has lived in Pittsburgh for a couple of years and
goes to Carnegie Mellon University where David Tourezky teaches.
She is going to Washington D.C. this fall to Georgetown University
to get her Masters.

Chuck, they treated you worse than me if you never even went
Clear after all these years, because a lot of the time it only takes
like 50 hours to go Clear on NED.

It is rare that ANYONE meets someone who was in Scientology
over one quarter of a century that only got to Grade 0! You are
smart to have left.

Bruce Dobin, (Emma's brother in law) lost "face" entirely as did the
Church of Scientology after the mission in Elizabeth was disbanded.
Tom Cruise is from New Jersey.

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