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Dicktop_Stud

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Oct 25, 2004, 2:58:21 AM10/25/04
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I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
seriously mentally ill. I was informed that their officers are trained
in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
homeless population. Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases in thier
jurisdiction; where they live, known incidents of derisive behavior,
what they have been treated for and where, in the event a crisis
situation develops which has the potential for harming innocent
victims.

BARBARA SCHWARZ IS IN THE SALT LAKE CITY POLICE DATABASE. According to
the officer I spoke with, Ms. Schwarz is well-known to many of its
officers, and have been on the receiving end of numerous, frivilous
complaints of police abuse and violations of her rights.

Barbara Schwarz has been contact on innumerous occasions by mental
health advocates, social workers, and community workers who have
offered her mental health assistance and counseling -all which she
turned down. Ms. Schwarz believes she stands alone in being right, and
everyone else is wrong.

The officer informed me that because Barbara Schwarz is an adult and
has not committed any crimes (that they are aware of) deminstrative of
her mental illness, they are helpless in directing her to the
resources that can help her; however, they, officials in the Salt Lake
County Library system, and the University of Utah are all aware of Ms.
Schwarz and her activities on the Internet and keep her under casual
surveillance to insure that her known anger, hostility, and paranoid
delusions doesn't translate into violent activity.

I was encouraged NOT TO ENGAGE Barbara Schwarz - any attempts to
communicate with her in a rational, objective manner is useless. Her
aggressiveness and hostility toward others is her way of keeping the
focus off her own issues, providing her a distration from assuming any
responsibility for the problems she has created for herself.

Citizen_Cain

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"Dicktop_Stud" <dickto...@mindless.com> wrote in message
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> I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
> seriously mentally ill.

Waiiiiiiit a second.

Salt Lake City actually has a department that does that? Seriously? You're
kidding me, right?

I might have a case for them to investigate...a certain sociopath stalker of
mine now back in their jurisdiction. Who did you speak with? Any
particular officer or contact that you can divulge?


>I was informed that their officers are trained
> in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
> schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
> homeless population.


Hrm. Well, my guy isn't homeless, but he's definitely got mental disorders.


> Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
> violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases in thier
> jurisdiction; where they live, known incidents of derisive behavior,
> what they have been treated for and where, in the event a crisis
> situation develops which has the potential for harming innocent
> victims.


Well, I don't know if this *ahem* "known nutcase" that I have in mind
actually has a police record or not. He's admitted having some DEALINGS
with local authorities there in the SLC area in the last few weeks, but
claims that it wasn't voluntary and that in the end he was released with no
charges. This is sounding better and better...it might actually be worth a
look if you're telling the truth.

>
> BARBARA SCHWARZ IS IN THE SALT LAKE CITY POLICE DATABASE. According to
> the officer I spoke with, Ms. Schwarz is well-known to many of its
> officers, and have been on the receiving end of numerous, frivilous
> complaints of police abuse and violations of her rights.
>
> Barbara Schwarz has been contact on innumerous occasions by mental
> health advocates, social workers, and community workers who have
> offered her mental health assistance and counseling -all which she
> turned down. Ms. Schwarz believes she stands alone in being right, and
> everyone else is wrong.


I don't know if my guy has had contact with anyone along those lines. I
think he HAS, because the boss on his last job tried to have him mentally
evaluated, but he quit before the psychiatrist could take a look at him. A
sure sign he knows he's mentally ill, however.

>
> The officer informed me that because Barbara Schwarz is an adult and
> has not committed any crimes (that they are aware of) deminstrative of
> her mental illness, they are helpless in directing her to the
> resources that can help her; however, they, officials in the Salt Lake
> County Library system, and the University of Utah are all aware of Ms.
> Schwarz and her activities on the Internet and keep her under casual
> surveillance to insure that her known anger, hostility, and paranoid
> delusions doesn't translate into violent activity.


I would bet that the odds are good that the guy in question that I'm
thinking of is under similar "casual surveillance," especially since he's
made numerous remarks bordering on the psychotic and/or violent.


>
> I was encouraged NOT TO ENGAGE Barbara Schwarz - any attempts to
> communicate with her in a rational, objective manner is useless.


That definitely describes the guy I'm thinking of here.


> Her
> aggressiveness and hostility toward others is her way of keeping the
> focus off her own issues, providing her a distration from assuming any
> responsibility for the problems she has created for herself.

Yep, that's him alright. Say, who did you contact again? I might want to
send out a few e-mails of my own...

Dicktop_Stud

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"Citizen_Cain" <noema...@probablynotmebutmystalker.invalid> wrote in message news:<bq2fd.822$jB3...@fe61.usenetserver.com>...

> "Dicktop_Stud" <dickto...@mindless.com> wrote in message
> news:12085197.04102...@posting.google.com...

> > I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> > Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> > clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
> > seriously mentally ill.
>
> Waiiiiiiit a second.
>
> Salt Lake City actually has a department that does that? Seriously? You're
> kidding me, right?
>
> I might have a case for them to investigate...a certain sociopath stalker of
> mine now back in their jurisdiction. Who did you speak with? Any
> particular officer or contact that you can divulge?

Call Lt. Chris Burbank at (801) 799-3801 and reference the Crisis
Intervention Team (CIT).

Rev. Desertphile de Rothschild

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Oct 25, 2004, 10:58:05 AM10/25/04
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On 24 Oct 2004 23:58:21 -0700, dickto...@mindless.com
(Dicktop_Stud) wrote:

>I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
>Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
>clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
>seriously mentally ill. I was informed that their officers are trained
>in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
>schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
>homeless population. Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
>violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases in thier
>jurisdiction; where they live, known incidents of derisive behavior,
>what they have been treated for and where, in the event a crisis
>situation develops which has the potential for harming innocent
>victims.
>
>BARBARA SCHWARZ IS IN THE SALT LAKE CITY POLICE DATABASE. According to
>the officer I spoke with, Ms. Schwarz is well-known to many of its
>officers, and have been on the receiving end of numerous, frivilous
>complaints of police abuse and violations of her rights.

Er, ah, I don'tbelieve it. I cannot believe that a police officer
would tell you or anyone else not in the need-to-know such things.

---
RE-ELECT PRESIDENT GORE IN 2004
http://lastliberal.org

ladayla

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Oct 25, 2004, 12:23:29 PM10/25/04
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In article <417d...@news2.lightlink.com>, Rev. Desertphile de Rothschild
says...

You prolly would not believe that Library Security would escort me to the
computer lab and point her out to me, either, but they did.

la

Barbara Schwarz

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"Citizen_Cain" <noema...@probablynotmebutmystalker.invalid> wrote in message news:<bq2fd.822$jB3...@fe61.usenetserver.com>...
> "Dicktop_Stud" <dickto...@mindless.com> wrote in message
> news:12085197.04102...@posting.google.com...
> > I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> > Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> > clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
> > seriously mentally ill.
>
> Waiiiiiiit a second.

Come on, CC, that defamatory libel about me was posted by Garry
Scarff. He never tells the truth. He is a criminal, a stalker and
completely nuts. Read up on him. It is possible that the guy who
stalks you *is* Garry Scarff.

Barbara Schwarz


GARRY SCARFF IN HIS OWN DANGEROUS WORDS: "You're very lucky there's
2000
miles between us, Beebe. You'd either be dead or in ICU."
Garry Scarff: "Yup! I AM SATAN, HEAR ME ROAR!"
Garry Scarff: "...my college grades dropped and I was suspended for 6
month from college for receiving one credit out of the required 12 for
the term."
Garry Scarff: "D.E. and others are correct if that I have not been a
Scientologist..."
Garry Scarff: "I was 'friend' with Scientology, yet going to cult
education forums with the Greeks and trashing Scientology."
Garry Scarff: "I...was even invited as special friend by Ann Greek to
accompany them to Canada for the purposes of kidnapping their
daughter...I accompanied the Greeks and another deprogrammer, Diane
Benscoter to Candada but the effort was unsuccessful."
Garry Scarff: "The sexual incident involving deprogrammer Bob
Brandybury did occur though Anne Greek begged me not to report it as a
crime."
Garry Scarff: "I rather lick you."
Garry Scarff:" Have a short life, Zanebutt".
Garry Scarff: "Don't make me send my henchman back over there to
bloody your nose."

------------------
GARRY SCARFF, THE THIEF OF FUNDS:
Garry Scarff stole stole 70% of donations of the Postitive Action
Center. Something tells me that he did not do that out of hunger but
because he has a criminal mind.

GARRY SCARFF, AND THE MISUSE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT:
The affidavit of lawyer Graham Berry of April 4, 2004 indicates that
Garry Scarff unlawfully used law enforcement computer network to
retrieve info about juvenile. My question, is there any crime that
this Scarff has not committed sofar? He should be locked up.

GARRY SCARFF, THE PERJURER:
There are numerous information on the net that Garry Scarff lied in
his deposition in the Fishman/Geertz case.
Saying the truth under oath means nothing to criminal Scarff.

MORE GARRY SCARFF PERJURY:
Garry Scarff recants the content of his declarations given to Michael
Rinder, Elliott Abelson and David Long during the July 4, 1997
weekend. (A court accepting an affidavit of notorious liar Scarff is
losing all credibility.)

GARRY SCARFF, COMFORTABLE WITH LYING TO OTHERS FOR A LIVING:
C. Brennan wrote: "You forgot to mention that Garry Scarff is the guy
that used to be paid by the Cult Awareness Netwwork to lie to
potential money sources for CAN and tell them his poor daddy died in
Jonestown (he said it used to bring tears to people's eyes,and green
out of people's pocketbooks, I guess he was convincing). Only problem
was his father was alive and well and living in Florida. CAN toured
him all over the country telling that story for quite a while, I guess
they got some good mileage out of it. It seems that Gary's comfortable
with lying to others for a living, don't know who is paying him now."

GARRY SCARFF, THE VIOLENT MAN
Violent Garry Scarff about an missed opportunity to have him arrested:
"My heated emotions to one female counterpicketer gave away and I
grabbed her by the throat and flung her to the ground in full view of
a Scientologist with a rolling videocamera."

MORE ABOUT GARRY SCARFF, THE DEATH THREAT MAKER:
His apology was simply part of the usual Scarff cycle. Still "valid"
is also his promise to kill me. -- T.H.

...but I see he (Garry Scarff) has progressed to making death threats
against me in a desperate plea for my attention. Something about
shooting me in the head? Someone e-mailed it to me; I missed the
posted thread. -- M.H.

And yeah, I know you (Garry Scarff) are dangerous...I know you can
easily mock up being really insane and take me out with your insanity
defense all nicely in place. -- G.A.

I would suggest to those who know Garry in LA that you should be
careful...So my advice to everyone: never never never never tell Garry
Scarff anything.... Remember, that is what drives his sick mind - he
wants to be known, looked at and to be listened to. -- T.H.

Gary! You had a sex change operation! -- MTR

You are a liar, Garry. We have met. -- W.

Garry Scarff is a know liar. -- L.F.

Scarff worked for both sides and cried, when he was caught. -- T.H.

GARRY SCARFF, AND INSANITY THAT RUNS IN HIS FAMILY?
Garry's brother allegedly killed himself with a gun.
I just believe that Garry has nothing to do with that if he has an
fool proof alibi that he was not near his brother at that time.

ROLL OVER FATHER JOHN GEOGHAN, HERE COMES GARRY SCARFF:
I learned that the Catholic Church did not take godless gay Garry
Scarff, who wanted to become a catholic "priest". Knowing Scarff, the
only reason why he would have wanted to join is because of the
homosexual activities of that church. That is likely the only reason
he became member in WEHO, his gay pick up "church" place in which they
drug and rape according to WEHO ex-members.
I thought the Catholic Church hires just about any perverted creep.
Scarff is apparently so perverted that even that church does not want
him. If they would have, who knows how many little boys rightfully
would sue father Scarff.

GARRY SCARFF, THE SPY:
Scarff:" I lied to F. and feigned an emotional outburst complete with
tears, screaming... The ploy worked as F. apologized to me... I
availed myself to his aonfidential (sic) legal records and legal files
of his clients..."


MORE COMPLAINTS BY OTHERS ABOUT GARRY SCARFF:
Graham has his own ass to cover since Scarff gave him reams of other
false statements about alleged murder plots and so on...Berry will
have serious problems trying to make Scarff's former statements under
oath old up. -- H.C.

Garry Scarff deliberately lied about his background while he was an
active member of CAN. He claimed his father and other family members
were killed in Jonestown -- when he actually didn't know anyone in
Jonestown or have any involvement with the People's Temple. He served
as CAN's poster boy for awhile, all based on his fabricated
experiences with Jim Jones. After CAN was embarrassed by Scarff's lies
and turned against him, Scarff then proceeded to claim he had
infiltrated CAN as a GO/OSA operative. Outside of Scarff's own
assertions, I've seen no indication that this is any more true than
his lies about his
Jonestown connections. Scarff told the Moonies that CAN was making
death threats to try to keep him quiet. Scarff told the Moonies that,
as a member of CAN, he had been involved in activities that included
theft and burglary against them.
This is the guy whose "sworn affidavits" many people use to "prove"
that the CoS is a criminal organization. We're taking Scarff's
unsubstantiated word for things like the drowning of Judge
Swearinger's dog Duke, Moxon's order to have Cynthia Kisser and her
mythical daughter killed, etc. Is it really wise for anyone to place
so much trust in Scarff's unsubstantiated accusations?
Now, thanks to Scarff himself, we learn that he didn't end his career
as a prevaricator when he lost his contact with CAN and various cults.
He attempted to scam the Roman Catholic Church out of a settlement for
what he himself admits was a bogus claim that he was sexually
harrassed by a Catholic bishop. -- D.R.

It is well known that Garry Scarff can't be trusted...Garry is not
worthy of our trust. -- H.C.R.

Garry Scarff has been caught in lies and deceipt time and time again.
I only wish I could post half of the stuff which clearly shows the
misery that Scarff brought to lots of people. -- J.B.
Garry Scarff is a psychopath, and a loony is not an adequate word to
describe him. Scarff is a danger not only to himself, but to anyone
who trust him too... -- T.H.

For your information, when Garry (Scarff) was with CAN he was telling
everyone that his family had died in Jonestown and was making these
statements to the media. Come to find out, it was not true in the
slightest. If the alleged murder plots were true why didn't he go to
the police? -- H.C.

Perhaps you forget about the numerous little con-games he's been
caught playing here? I continue to spit in his (Scarff's) direction.
-- Z.T.

Garry Scarff is not a Scientology victim, he is a mentally ill guy...
-- T.H.

Is this guy (Garry Scarff) for real or does he just need to lay off
the hemp? Sounds like he's suffering from the Reality Inversion as
Robert Vaughn Young. -- T.J.

He (Scarff) has admitted to the things he has done and said, and he
has admitted being unstable. --J.B.

Have you ever seen Garry Scarff apologize for his deprogramming
activities here, or anything else for that matter? -- D.R.

Garry's mental problem is that he cannot accept people contradicting
him. -- T. H.

Scarff has already underminded any use he has in litigation for either
side because he lied so much. -- H.C.

And now you've become a forger as well. Go ahead Garry, and forge hate
messages. Go ahead, lie all you want. Go ahead and be cruel. Go ahead
and deny that your're doing what you're doing. -- G.A.

You (Garry Scarff) surface with your attacks and pornographic postings
and each time that you do I will release more info on you, who Lynn
Garrett really is, how Lynn Garrett makes his living, how Garry Scarff
became Lynn Garrett, vice versa. How Garry Scarff has accused at least
six individuals of homosexual attacks. -- J.B.

All I can say is that Scarff -- and the conflicting declarations he's
made in the past -- is what led me to become very skeptical of
anyone's claim of past abuse from cults, whether they've been sworn to
under penality or not. There may be some people willing to pick and
choose from Scarff's statement, selecting what they wish to beleive
and labelling as lies anything they don't wish to believe. I tend to
think that anyone so willing to change sides so often, for whatecver
reason, has list all hope of credibility. -- D.R.

I am a 100 percent convinced that no Scientologist told infiltrator
Garry Scarff to kill people, but that is all a product of this
criminal and mentally retarded mind. -- Barbara Schwarz


BTW, for those who don't know Garry Scarff, he is a pathological
liar...Garry lies continually about the "celebrities" he encounters.
He pretended to be a Jonestown survivor. -- G.A.

I have Scarff killfiled and so I don't see_his_posts, dear whatever.
-- Z.

Placing him (Scarff) in a killfile as probably 100 ars regulars have
done. Anyway, ars sure is a different place without him hanging
around. Must say I like it. :) *No one* makes as much noise as this
deseased creep... -- M.H.

FACTNet's archives include Garry Scarff's deposition revealing what he
claimed was a meeting with Moxon, Ingram, and others in which he swore
under penalty of perjury that all sorts of nefarious and illegal
schemes were plotted. FACTNet never reveals Garry Scarff's incredibly
checkered past history of flip-flopping between the battling cultists
and anticultists, or his ready admission that he's fabricated stories
from whole cloth (like his parents' death at Jonestown) in the past.
In Scarff's case, it wasn't just OSA who tried to warn readers about
Scarff's lack of credibility. -- D.R.


Garry Scarff's sexual harassment, insults, threats and cyber stalking
of me, Barbara Schwarz, are under different Google identities on the
net. Scarff also uses e-mail accounts and posting ideas with my name
in it or a name similar as my name to commit those crimes against me,
but they can be all traced to him.


Postings with e-mail address Barbara...@emailaccount.com and
identities "Barbara_Schwarz", "the real Barbara Schwarz de Rothschild"
and "Truth Speaker 2" are not done by me. I also don't post with ID
Still_lying_about_Marty. No posting by me, the true Barbara Schwarz,
is made under Babbling.Barbara.Schwarz and e-mail address
theonewhoisadelu...@emailaccount.com.
I posted first under Guess who? and e-mail account
theonewhoshallnotspeakout@emailaccount, till he stole again my
identity and posts now also with identity Guess who and with e-mail
account theonewhoisadelusionalliar". posted with Guess who? before and
e-mail account theonewhosha...@emailaccount.com, Scarff
stole the identity again and posts now with Guess who? but e-mail
account theonewhoisad...@emailaccount.com, and he sure is
one.


Those postings are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected, gay lunatic
Garry Lynn Scarff who is a fanatical defender of the porn and bomb
instruction guy Dave Touretzky. I wonder how much Touretzky is
involved in getting my home address constantly posted against my will
and in Scarff's perverted misinformation that I admire Touretzky or
want to be married to him or to be his "sex slave"!
Scarff is nobody on his own and also stole the identity of Mark
Rathbun Marty Rathbun (mrat...@scientology.org). I believe there is
something like the gay Mafia, and Scarff belongs it it. He constantly
posts my home address on the net in hope I come to harm or that I am
being murdered by those that find the address, if he can't make
himself to my town to kill me.
Interesting however is that he did not want to state his own address
to a court as he was afraid that he could himself come to harm. If he
fears the bad world by not even tell the court where he lives, how
come he posts over and over my address on the net and lies that people
would get sexual services at my address?


Scarff persecutes me from thread to thread often using my name as
identity for those crimes (!) and verbally assaults me, threatens me,
harasses me, sexually harasses me, tries to intimidate me, libels,
insults and lies about me. He also posts with identity "Dicktop Stud"
and "Papa Boner". He furthermore lied that he spoke to a roomate of
mine in the Utah mental health hospital. I never was in that hospital,
but he probably escaped from one. It is also striking that especially
the worst and most lawless guys, as Scarff, promote junk science
psychiatry.

Scarff is active member of the gay WeHo "church", that according to
Scarff applaudes Scarff's lawless behavior against me. An ex-WeHo
member wrote me that this "church" sanctions and promotes dishonorable
behavior and that he and his friends were raped and drugged by one of
their active members, and that one of their active members murdered
others under the guise of "drug overdose". The ex-WeHo wrote that the
gay men make sexual innuendo during sermon and "church" leadership, as
their "Pastor" Terry Brewer, don't see what's wrong with that.

-----------------

Arkady

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Dicktop_Stud wrote:

| I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
| Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
| clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
| seriously mentally ill. I was informed that their officers are trained
| in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
| schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
| homeless population. Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
| violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases in thier
| jurisdiction; where they live, known incidents of derisive behavior,
| what they have been treated for and where, in the event a crisis
| situation develops which has the potential for harming innocent
| victims.
|

Meh. Maybe it's just me, but I really don't like derogatory terms
such as "nutcase" being applied to people who are mentally ill; even
when it's being applied to someone as objectionable and unpleasant
as BS. It's bad enough being mentally ill without having people
refer to you in a derogatory manner. No wonder it's so difficult to
tackle the social stigma against mental illness.
- --
regards,
Arkady

"Say this stuff to him, not just to me ... he's the one who needs it
brought to his attention." - Diva
"Oh I have. I just..argh! You know? Head, brick wall, softer and
squishier, whole nine yards." - me
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:58:05 -0500, Rev. Desertphile de Rothschild
<deser...@cchr.ws> wrote in <417d...@news2.lightlink.com>:

Neither do I. He's simply switched from telling "Celebrity stories" to
tell "police stories". I suspect he got in legal trouble with one of the
celebrities he was telling stories about. Note also that he failed a few
months ago when he claimed he had spoken with a guy from that internet
store.

Tilman

--
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Resistance is futile. You will be enturbulated. Xenu always prevails.

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On 25 Oct 2004 09:23:29 -0700, ladayla <ladayla...@newsguy.com>
wrote in <clj9a...@drn.newsguy.com>:

>You prolly would not believe that Library Security would escort me to the
>computer lab and point her out to me, either, but they did.

I do believe you :-)

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Leader Desslok

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You should just remove that page.
You are just fueling his trolling. Take it down and I bet he goes
away.


On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:54:29 -0000, John Henry
<j...@inNOSPAMsurgent.orgy> wrote:

>dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in
>news:12085197.04102...@posting.google.com:

>
>>> I might have a case for them to investigate...a certain sociopath
>>> stalker of mine now back in their jurisdiction. Who did you speak
>>> with? Any particular officer or contact that you can divulge?
>>
>> Call Lt. Chris Burbank at (801) 799-3801 and reference the Crisis
>> Intervention Team (CIT).
>>
>

>http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/dink
>
>Please don't encourage Dink. Thank you.
>
>--
>John Henry
>"You plan the wars you masters of men plan the wars and point the way and
>we will point the gun." - Dalton Trumbo, _Johnny Got His Gun_
>www.lowgenius.com

Leader Desslok

I hate the Star Force

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> > "Dicktop_Stud" <dickto...@mindless.com> wrote in message
> > news:12085197.04102...@posting.google.com...
> > > I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> > > Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> > > clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
> > > seriously mentally ill.
> >
> > Waiiiiiiit a second.
>
> Come on, CC, that defamatory libel about me was posted by Garry
> Scarff. He never tells the truth. He is a criminal, a stalker and
> completely nuts. Read up on him. It is possible that the guy who
> stalks you *is* Garry Scarff.


No, it's not possible, because the stalker of mine is from
news:rec.sport.pro-wrestling and I am fully aware of who he is.

- snip 20k worth of nothing -


Citizen_Cain

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Oct 25, 2004, 5:46:27 PM10/25/04
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"Dicktop_Stud" <dickto...@mindless.com> wrote in message
news:12085197.04102...@posting.google.com...
> "Citizen_Cain" <noema...@probablynotmebutmystalker.invalid> wrote in
message news:<bq2fd.822$jB3...@fe61.usenetserver.com>...
>
> > "Dicktop_Stud" <dickto...@mindless.com> wrote in message
> > news:12085197.04102...@posting.google.com...
>
> > > I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> > > Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> > > clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
> > > seriously mentally ill.
> >
> > Waiiiiiiit a second.
> >
> > Salt Lake City actually has a department that does that? Seriously?
You're
> > kidding me, right?
> >
> > I might have a case for them to investigate...a certain sociopath
stalker of
> > mine now back in their jurisdiction. Who did you speak with? Any
> > particular officer or contact that you can divulge?
>
> Call Lt. Chris Burbank at (801) 799-3801 and reference the Crisis
> Intervention Team (CIT).


Hmmm...so what exactly is it that they do? I'd hate to waste their time
with this idiot up there in Utah, but I'm guessing they already know who he
is anyway...

Citizen_Cain

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Oct 25, 2004, 5:47:48 PM10/25/04
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"Leader Desslok" <des...@gamilon.ga> wrote in message
news:417d5f37...@News.Individual.NET...

> You should just remove that page.
> You are just fueling his trolling. Take it down and I bet he goes
> away.


John *can't* take it down. I am his every being. He thinks of me every
day. It would almost be flattering, if he weren't such a flaming douchebag
loser.

Citizen_Cain

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Oct 25, 2004, 5:47:14 PM10/25/04
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"John Henry" <j...@inNOSPAMsurgent.orgy> wrote in message
news:Xns958D97B284488jo...@216.168.3.44...
> >> I might have a case for them to investigate...a certain sociopath
> >> stalker of mine now back in their jurisdiction. Who did you speak
> >> with? Any particular officer or contact that you can divulge?
> >
> > Call Lt. Chris Burbank at (801) 799-3801 and reference the Crisis
> > Intervention Team (CIT).
> >
>
> http://www.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>
> Please don't encourage Dink. Thank you.


Please ignore John Henry. Thank you.

John is one of those "nutcases" mentioned in the original post. It's just
that he's not as bad as the nutcase that is in Salt Lake City at the moment.

Citizen_Cain

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Oct 25, 2004, 5:48:29 PM10/25/04
to

"John Henry" <j...@inNOSPAMsurgent.orgy> wrote in message
news:Xns958DB2CD37D88jo...@216.168.3.44...
> des...@gamilon.ga (Leader Desslok) wrote in news:417d5f37.13557440
> @News.Individual.NET:

>
> > You should just remove that page.
>
> I don't have access to remove that page.

>
> > You are just fueling his trolling. Take it down and I bet he goes
> > away.
>
> If I died tomorrow, Dink would


. . . probably post the obituary online, then go out and have a drink to
celebrate. And I would DEFINITELY be attending the funeral. I'm not going
to give up a chance to slap your corpse!

Rev. Desertphile de Rothschild

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Oct 25, 2004, 6:46:32 PM10/25/04
to
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:41:44 +0200, Tilman Hausherr
<tilman...@snafu.de> wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:58:05 -0500, Rev. Desertphile de Rothschild
><deser...@cchr.ws> wrote in <417d...@news2.lightlink.com>:

>>On 24 Oct 2004 23:58:21 -0700, dickto...@mindless.com
>>(Dicktop_Stud) wrote:

>>>BARBARA SCHWARZ IS IN THE SALT LAKE CITY POLICE DATABASE. According to
>>>the officer I spoke with, Ms. Schwarz is well-known to many of its
>>>officers, and have been on the receiving end of numerous, frivilous
>>>complaints of police abuse and violations of her rights.

>>Er, ah, I don'tbelieve it. I cannot believe that a police officer
>>would tell you or anyone else not in the need-to-know such things.

>Neither do I. He's simply switched from telling "Celebrity stories" to
>tell "police stories". I suspect he got in legal trouble with one of the
>celebrities he was telling stories about. Note also that he failed a few
>months ago when he claimed he had spoken with a guy from that internet
>store.

Gary's Celeb Stories pathology seems to have been for self-
agrandizement; the Psycho Barb story appears to be for insulting
Psycho Barb. If I cared, I would contact the Salt Lake City Police
Department and ask myself, but I do not care that much. Perhaps
someone who feels the need to defend Ms. Schartz will do so.

>Tilman

Barbara Schwarz

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Oct 25, 2004, 8:13:04 PM10/25/04
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ladayla <ladayla...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<clj9a...@drn.newsguy.com>...

> In article <417d...@news2.lightlink.com>, Rev. Desertphile de Rothschild
> says...
> >
> >On 24 Oct 2004 23:58:21 -0700, dickto...@mindless.com
> >(Dicktop_Stud) wrote:
> >
> >>I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> >>Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> >>clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
> >>seriously mentally ill. I was informed that their officers are trained
> >>in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
> >>schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
> >>homeless population. Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
> >>violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases in thier
> >>jurisdiction; where they live, known incidents of derisive behavior,
> >>what they have been treated for and where, in the event a crisis
> >>situation develops which has the potential for harming innocent
> >>victims.
> >>
> >>BARBARA SCHWARZ IS IN THE SALT LAKE CITY POLICE DATABASE. According to
> >>the officer I spoke with, Ms. Schwarz is well-known to many of its
> >>officers, and have been on the receiving end of numerous, frivilous
> >>complaints of police abuse and violations of her rights.
> >
> >Er, ah, I don'tbelieve it. I cannot believe that a police officer
> >would tell you or anyone else not in the need-to-know such things.

Scarff is fabricating his stuff, as usually. The data he provided are
completely false and otherwise, they would not provide Scarff with the
information.


>
> You prolly would not believe that Library Security would escort me to the
> computer lab and point her out to me, either, but they did.
>
> la


I will tell them that you stalk me and lie about me, Jana. Next time
they will not more assist you.

Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz

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Oct 25, 2004, 8:20:24 PM10/25/04
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Arkady <ark...@cyberratty.co.uk> wrote in message news:<2u4pt7F...@uni-berlin.de>...

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Dicktop_Stud wrote:
>
> | I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> | Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> | clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
> | seriously mentally ill. I was informed that their officers are trained
> | in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
> | schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
> | homeless population. Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
> | violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases in thier
> | jurisdiction; where they live, known incidents of derisive behavior,
> | what they have been treated for and where, in the event a crisis
> | situation develops which has the potential for harming innocent
> | victims.
> |
>
> Meh. Maybe it's just me, but I really don't like derogatory terms
> such as "nutcase" being applied to people who are mentally ill;

Oh, spare me your dishonest sympathy. You are not better than Scarff.
You are the mentally ill people, lying about others that they are
mentally ill to discredit your critics. Shame on you!

Barbara Schwarz

The King of Trolls

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Oct 25, 2004, 10:03:30 PM10/25/04
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No Jon, but if you died tommorrow you would continue to name drop well into
the next decade.

--
Sincerely yours,


The King of Trolls,

Sir William McFuckpants

"John Henry" <j...@inNOSPAMsurgent.orgy> wrote in message
news:Xns958DB2CD37D88jo...@216.168.3.44...
> des...@gamilon.ga (Leader Desslok) wrote in news:417d5f37.13557440
> @News.Individual.NET:
>

> > You should just remove that page.
>

> I don't have access to remove that page.


>
> > You are just fueling his trolling. Take it down and I bet he goes
> > away.
>

> If I died tomorrow, Dink would continue throwing my name around to try and
> troll people for another decade. Nearly anyone else - including you - I'd
> agree with this sentiment. With Dink, it just doesn't work.

The King of Trolls

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Oct 25, 2004, 10:03:13 PM10/25/04
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Wouldn't it be better to take a steaming dump using his mouth as your
toilet?


--
Sincerely yours,


The King of Trolls,

Sir William McFuckpants

"Citizen_Cain" <noema...@probablynotmebutmystalker.invalid> wrote in
message news:Owefd.1877$xk5...@fe39.usenetserver.com...

Faxhor

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Oct 26, 2004, 12:32:55 AM10/26/04
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dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message news:<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>...

Who would believe Gary Scarff?


Faxhor

Dicktop_Stud

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Oct 26, 2004, 2:23:36 AM10/26/04
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Tilman Hausherr <tilman...@snafu.de> wrote in message news:<cieqn0d99ijmkdtbs...@4ax.com>...

> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:58:05 -0500, Rev. Desertphile de Rothschild
> <deser...@cchr.ws> wrote in <417d...@news2.lightlink.com>:
>
> >On 24 Oct 2004 23:58:21 -0700, dickto...@mindless.com
> >(Dicktop_Stud) wrote:
> >
> >>I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> >>Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> >>clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
> >>seriously mentally ill. I was informed that their officers are trained
> >>in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
> >>schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
> >>homeless population. Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
> >>violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases in thier
> >>jurisdiction; where they live, known incidents of derisive behavior,
> >>what they have been treated for and where, in the event a crisis
> >>situation develops which has the potential for harming innocent
> >>victims.
> >>
> >>BARBARA SCHWARZ IS IN THE SALT LAKE CITY POLICE DATABASE. According to
> >>the officer I spoke with, Ms. Schwarz is well-known to many of its
> >>officers, and have been on the receiving end of numerous, frivilous
> >>complaints of police abuse and violations of her rights.
> >
> >Er, ah, I don'tbelieve it. I cannot believe that a police officer
> >would tell you or anyone else not in the need-to-know such things.

My communication was in response to a written complaint. Your
disbelief in what occurred is irrelevent.


>
> Neither do I. He's simply switched from telling "Celebrity stories" to
> tell "police stories". I suspect he got in legal trouble with one of the
> celebrities he was telling stories about.

As always, NaziBoy suspects wrong...but then being wrong is your
legacy, isn't it?

Note also that he failed a few months ago when he claimed he had
spoken with a guy from that internet store.

Hand it to you, NaziBoy to twist and turn anything & everything you
despise. Your mentor Adolf would have been proud.

Dicktop_Stud

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Oct 26, 2004, 2:25:01 AM10/26/04
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Stilllov...@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message news:<bf456302.0410...@posting.google.com>...

LOL. Anyone that types your name into Google will discover who the
real liar and psychopath is, Barbara. Get help.

Dicktop_Stud

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Oct 26, 2004, 2:28:26 AM10/26/04
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Stilllov...@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message news:<bf456302.04102...@posting.google.com>...

LOL. Would you like to tell everyone how I learned of your arrest &
conviction for shoplifting.... which you admitted to, then lied about,
then admitted to??


> >
> > You prolly would not believe that Library Security would escort me to the
> > computer lab and point her out to me, either, but they did.
> >
> > la
>
> I will tell them that you stalk me and lie about me, Jana. Next time
> they will not more assist you.

They will ignore you, Barbara. Your fraudulent & frivilous claims have
been told and repeated so many times, no one will believe you.

You are nothing but fodder for entertainment. No credibility
whatsoever.

Dicktop_Stud

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Oct 26, 2004, 2:33:02 AM10/26/04
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Arkady <ark...@cyberratty.co.uk> wrote in message news:<2u4pt7F...@uni-berlin.de>...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

> Hash: SHA1
>
> Dicktop_Stud wrote:
>
> | I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> | Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> | clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
> | seriously mentally ill. I was informed that their officers are trained
> | in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
> | schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
> | homeless population. Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
> | violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases in thier
> | jurisdiction; where they live, known incidents of derisive behavior,
> | what they have been treated for and where, in the event a crisis
> | situation develops which has the potential for harming innocent
> | victims.
> |
>
> Meh. Maybe it's just me, but I really don't like derogatory terms
> such as "nutcase" being applied to people who are mentally ill; even
> when it's being applied to someone as objectionable and unpleasant
> as BS. It's bad enough being mentally ill without having people
> refer to you in a derogatory manner.

You, like everyone else here, is entitled to your opinion.

No wonder it's so difficult to tackle the social stigma against mental
illness.

Especially when people like you take something totally out of context
to draw a conclusion on a personal agenda.

Dicktop_Stud

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Oct 26, 2004, 2:37:02 AM10/26/04
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Stilllov...@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message news:<bf456302.04102...@posting.google.com>...

> "Citizen_Cain" <noema...@probablynotmebutmystalker.invalid> wrote in message news:<bq2fd.822$jB3...@fe61.usenetserver.com>...

> > "Dicktop_Stud" <dickto...@mindless.com> wrote in message
> > news:12085197.04102...@posting.google.com...

> > > I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> > > Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> > > clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
> > > seriously mentally ill.
> >
> > Waiiiiiiit a second.
>
> Come on, CC, that defamatory libel about me was posted by Garry
> Scarff. He never tells the truth. He is a criminal, a stalker and
> completely nuts. Read up on him. It is possible that the guy who
> stalks you *is* Garry Scarff.

Read about Barbara's history for telling lies and living in a delusional world here:

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/barbara_schwarz.html

Curt West

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Oct 26, 2004, 3:06:08 AM10/26/04
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"Faxhor" <fax...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Who would believe an anonymous coward?


Barbara Schwarz

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Oct 26, 2004, 11:29:13 AM10/26/04
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dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message news:<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>...

Yes, I will, Garry Scarff, help against a criminal, liar and psychopath as you.

Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz

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"Curt West" <curt...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<AHmfd.14888$%g7....@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>...

Faxhor is no coward. Scarff also posts anonymously. Did you see his
dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud)signed by him? Did you see
that he signs his name under the many postings that this criminal
forged in my name?

Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz

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dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message news:<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>...


You made that up. The SLPD never arrested me, but I will soon know how
often you were arrested in your life, Scarff. I am no flip flopper.
You are lying again by wrongfully claiming I did the above, you are a
degraded being, and you are persecuting and stalking me to get
attention.


> > >
> > > You prolly would not believe that Library Security would escort me to the
> > > computer lab and point her out to me, either, but they did.
> > >
> > > la
> >
> > I will tell them that you stalk me and lie about me, Jana. Next time
> > they will not more assist you.
>
> They will ignore you, Barbara.

You might be in a big surprise of you thing so.

> Your fraudulent & frivilous claims have
> been told and repeated so many times, no one will believe you.

Seems you are talking about your own case.

>
> You are nothing but fodder for entertainment. No credibility
> whatsoever.

That is your problem, Scarff.

Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz

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dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message news:<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>...
> Arkady <ark...@cyberratty.co.uk> wrote in message news:<2u4pt7F...@uni-berlin.de>...
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Dicktop_Stud wrote:
> >
> > | I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> > | Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> > | clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
> > | seriously mentally ill. I was informed that their officers are trained
> > | in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
> > | schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
> > | homeless population. Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
> > | violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases in thier
> > | jurisdiction; where they live, known incidents of derisive behavior,
> > | what they have been treated for and where, in the event a crisis
> > | situation develops which has the potential for harming innocent
> > | victims.
> > |
> >
> > Meh. Maybe it's just me, but I really don't like derogatory terms
> > such as "nutcase" being applied to people who are mentally ill; even
> > when it's being applied to someone as objectionable and unpleasant
> > as BS. It's bad enough being mentally ill without having people
> > refer to you in a derogatory manner.
>
> You, like everyone else here, is entitled to your opinion.

Suddenly? Did a lawyer telling you to give up your criminal actions to
deny access to the Internet to me?


>
> No wonder it's so difficult to tackle the social stigma against mental
> illness.

You are talking again about your own personality.


>
> Especially when people like you take something totally out of context
> to draw a conclusion on a personal agenda.

That is what you are famous for, Scarff. You constantly try to give me
your character, but it won't work.

Why don't you post the content of the SLPD letter, Scarff! Let
everybody read that letter. Nobody believes you anyway, just drugged
people. Post the letter, and put it on a free Yahoo website!

Barbara Schwarz

Garry Scarff is a notorious liar, a cyber stalker, a forger, an identity stealer, an animal, and a disgrace to the human race

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Oct 26, 2004, 11:57:32 AM10/26/04
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"Curt West" <curt...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<AHmfd.14888$%g7....@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>...

GARRY SCARFF IN HIS OWN DANGEROUS WORDS:
"Actually, she (Barbara Schwarz) needs a baseball bat right in the
kisser.
(Note that criminal Scarff is currently supported by chain smoker Curt
West, another primitive and lawless cyber stalker.)

"Better yet, Bob, why don't you fetch an armload of really heavy books
and walk over to Barbara (Schwarz) when she's at a computer and
whoops....accidentially trip and drop the books on her head...hell..."
"You're very lucky there's 2000 miles between us, Beebe. You'd either
be dead or in ICU."
Garry Scarff: "Yup! I AM SATAN, HEAR ME ROAR!"
Garry Scarff: "...my college grades dropped and I was suspended for 6
months from college for receiving one credit out of the required 12
for the term."
Garry Scarff: "D.E. and others are correct if that I have not been a
Scientologist..."
Garry Scarff: "I was 'friend' with Scientology, yet going to cult
education forums with the Greeks and trashing Scientology."
Garry Scarff: "I...was even invited as special friend by Ann Greek to
accompany them to Canada for the purposes of kidnapping their
daughter...I accompanied the Greeks and another deprogrammer, Diane
Benscoter to Candada but the effort was unsuccessful."
Garry Scarff: "The sexual incident involving deprogrammer Bob
Brandybury did occur though Anne Greek begged me not to report it as a
crime."
Garry Scarff: "I rather lick you."
Garry Scarff:" Have a short life, Zanebutt".
Garry Scarff: "Don't make me send my henchman back over there to
bloody your nose."

------------------
GARRY SCARFF, THE THIEF OF FUNDS:
Garry Scarff stole stole 70% of donations of the Positive Action
Center. Something tells me that he did not do that out of hunger but
because he has a criminal mind.

GARRY SCARFF, AND THE MISUSE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT:
The affidavit of lawyer Graham Berry of April 4, 2004 indicates that
Garry Scarff unlawfully used law enforcement computer network to
retrieve info about juvenile. My question, is there any crime that
this Scarff has not committed sofar? He should be locked up.

GARRY SCARFF, THE PERJURER:
There are numerous information on the net that Garry Scarff lied in
his deposition in the Fishman/Geertz case.
Saying the truth under oath means nothing to criminal Scarff.

MORE GARRY SCARFF PERJURY:
Garry Scarff recants the content of his declarations given to Michael
Rinder, Elliott Abelson and David Long during the July 4, 1997
weekend. (A court accepting an affidavit of notorious liar Scarff is
losing all credibility.)

GARRY SCARFF, COMFORTABLE WITH LYING TO OTHERS FOR A LIVING:
C. Brennan wrote: "You forgot to mention that Garry Scarff is the guy
that used to be paid by the Cult Awareness Network to lie to potential
money sources for CAN and tell them his poor daddy died in Jonestown
(he said it used to bring tears to people's eyes,and green out of
people's pocketbooks, I guess he was convincing). Only problem was his
father was alive and well and living in Florida. CAN toured him all
over the country telling that story for quite a while, I guess they
got some good mileage out of it. It seems that Gary's comfortable with
lying to others for a living, don't know who is paying him now."

GARRY SCARFF, THE VIOLENT MAN
Violent Garry Scarff about an missed opportunity to have him arrested:
"My heated emotions to one female counterpicketer gave away and I
grabbed her by the throat and flung her to the ground in full view of
a Scientologist with a rolling videocamera."

MORE ABOUT GARRY SCARFF, THE DEATH THREAT MAKER:
His apology was simply part of the usual Scarff cycle. Still "valid"
is also his promise to kill me. -- T. H.

...but I see he (Garry Scarff) has progressed to making death threats
against me in a desperate plea for my attention. Something about
shooting me in the head? Someone e-mailed it to me; I missed the
posted thread. -- M.H.

And yeah, I know you (Garry Scarff) are dangerous...I know you can
easily mock up being really insane and take me out with your insanity
defense all nicely in place. -- G.A.

I would suggest to those who know Garry in LA that you should be
careful...So my advice to everyone: never never never never tell Garry
Scarff anything.... Remember, that is what drives his sick mind - he
wants to be known, looked at and to be listened to. -- T.H.

You are a liar, Garry. We have met. -- W.

Garry Scarff is a know liar. -- L .F.
I believe that Scarff did not just know about the sexual abuse of the
kidnap victim but that he participated in the abuse. -- Barbara
Schwarz

Scarff worked for both sides and cried, when he was caught. -- T.H.

GARRY SCARFF, AND INSANITY THAT RUNS IN HIS FAMILY?
Garry's brother allegedly killed himself with a gun.
I just believe that Garry has nothing to do with that if he has an
fool proof alibi that he was not near his brother at that time.

ROLL OVER FATHER JOHN GEOGHAN, HERE COMES GARRY SCARFF:
I learned that the Catholic Church did not take godless gay Garry
Scarff, who wanted to become a catholic "priest". Knowing Scarff, the
only reason why he would have wanted to join is because of the
homosexual activities of that church. That is likely the only reason
he became member in WEHO, his gay pick up "church" place in which they
drug and rape according to WEHO ex-members.
I thought the Catholic Church hires just about any perverted creep.
Scarff is apparently so perverted that even that church does not want
him. If they would have, who knows how many little boys rightfully
would sue father Scarff.

GARRY SCARFF, THE SPY:
Scarff:" I lied to F. and feigned an emotional outburst complete with
tears, screaming... The ploy worked as F. apologized to me... I
availed myself to his aonfidential (sic) legal records and legal files
of his clients..."
GARRY SCARFF, and his questionable diet: "Agreed that the Mormon when
(sic) look like they belong on a dairy farm, but some of the young
missionaries are yummy!"

MORE COMPLAINTS BY OTHERS ABOUT GARRY SCARFF:
Graham has his own ass to cover since Scarff gave him reams of other
false statements about alleged murder plots and so on...Berry will
have serious problems trying to make Scarff's former statements under
oath old up. -- H.C.

Garry Scarff deliberately lied about his background while he was an
active member of CAN. He claimed his father and other family members
were killed in Jonestown -- when he actually didn't know anyone in
Jonestown or have any involvement with the People's Temple. He served
as CAN's poster boy for awhile, all based on his fabricated
experiences with Jim Jones. After CAN was embarrassed by Scarff's lies
and turned against him, Scarff then proceeded to claim he had
infiltrated CAN as a GO/OSA operative. Outside of Scarff's own
assertions, I've seen no indication that this is any more true than
his lies about his
Jonestown connections. Scarff told the Moonies that CAN was making
death threats to try to keep him quiet. Scarff told the Moonies that,
as a member of CAN, he had been involved in activities that included
theft and burglary against them.
This is the guy whose "sworn affidavits" many people use to "prove"
that the CoS is a criminal organization. We're taking Scarff's
unsubstantiated word for things like the drowning of Judge
Swearinger's dog Duke, Moxon's order to have Cynthia Kisser and her
mythical daughter killed, etc. Is it really wise for anyone to place
so much trust in Scarff's unsubstantiated accusations?
Now, thanks to Scarff himself, we learn that he didn't end his career
as a prevaricator when he lost his contact with CAN and various cults.
He attempted to scam the Roman Catholic Church out of a settlement for
what he himself admits was a bogus claim that he was sexually
harrassed by a Catholic bishop. -- D. R.

It is well known that Garry Scarff can't be trusted...Garry is not
worthy of our trust. -- H.C.R.

Garry Scarff has been caught in lies and deceipt time and time again.
I only wish I could post half of the stuff which clearly shows the
misery that Scarff brought to lots of people. -- J.B.
Garry Scarff is a psychopath, and a loony is not an adequate word to
describe him. Scarff is a danger not only to himself, but to anyone
who trust him too... -- T.H.

For your information, when Garry (Scarff) was with CAN he was telling
everyone that his family had died in Jonestown and was making these
statements to the media. Come to find out, it was not true in the
slightest. If the alleged murder plots were true why didn't he go to
the police? -- H.C.

Perhaps you forget about the numerous little con-games he's been
caught playing here? I continue to spit in his (Scarff's) direction.
-- Z.T.

Garry Scarff is not a Scientology victim, he is a mentally ill guy...
-- T.H.

Is this guy (Garry Scarff) for real or does he just need to lay off
the hemp? Sounds like he's suffering from the Reality Inversion as
Robert Vaughn Young. -- T.J.

He (Scarff) has admitted to the things he has done and said, and he
has admitted being unstable. --J.B.

Have you ever seen Garry Scarff apologize for his deprogramming
activities here, or anything else for that matter? -- D. R.

Garry's mental problem is that he cannot accept people contradicting
him. -- T. H.

Scarff has already underminded any use he has in litigation for either
side because he lied so much. -- H.C.

And now you've become a forger as well. Go ahead Garry, and forge hate
messages. Go ahead, lie all you want. Go ahead and be cruel. Go ahead
and deny that your're doing what you're doing. -- G.A.

You (Garry Scarff) surface with your attacks and pornographic postings
and each time that you do I will release more info on you, who Lynn
Garrett really is, how Lynn Garrett makes his living, how Garry Scarff
became Lynn Garrett, vice versa. How Garry Scarff has accused at least
six individuals of homosexual attacks. -- J.B.

All I can say is that Scarff -- and the conflicting declarations he's
made in the past -- is what led me to become very skeptical of
anyone's claim of past abuse from cults, whether they've been sworn to
under penality or not. There may be some people willing to pick and
choose from Scarff's statement, selecting what they wish to beleive
and labelling as lies anything they don't wish to believe. I tend to
think that anyone so willing to change sides so often, for whatecver
reason, has list all hope of credibility. -- D. R.

I am a 100 percent convinced that no Scientologist told infiltrator
Garry Scarff to kill people, but that is all a product of this
criminal and mentally retarded mind. -- Barbara Schwarz


BTW, for those who don't know Garry Scarff, he is a pathological
liar...Garry lies continually about the "celebrities" he encounters.
He pretended to be a Jonestown survivor. -- G.A.

I have Scarff killfiled and so I don't see_his_posts, dear whatever.
-- Z.
And auto-attack drones like Garry Scarff, whose only learned skills
seem to
be anonymous posts, hiding behind spam merchants, and selling critics'
email
addresses to kiddy-porn sites. -- S.G.

Placing him (Scarff) in a killfile as probably 100 ars regulars have
done. Anyway, ars sure is a different place without him hanging
around. Must say I like it. :) *No one* makes as much noise as this
deseased creep... -- M.H.

FACTNet's archives include Garry Scarff's deposition revealing what he
claimed was a meeting with Moxon, Ingram, and others in which he swore
under penalty of perjury that all sorts of nefarious and illegal
schemes were plotted. FACTNet never reveals Garry Scarff's incredibly
checkered past history of flip-flopping between the battling cultists
and anticultists, or his ready admission that he's fabricated stories
from whole cloth (like his parents' death at Jonestown) in the past.
In Scarff's case, it wasn't just OSA who tried to warn readers about
Scarff's lack of credibility. -- D. R.


Scarff is active member of the gay WeHo "church", that according to
Scarff applaudes Scarff's lawless behavior against me. An ex-WeHo
member wrote me that this "church" sanctions and promotes dishonorable
behavior and that he and his friends were raped and drugged by one of
their active members, and that one of their active members murdered
others under the guise of "drug overdose". The ex-WeHo wrote that the
gay men make sexual innuendo during sermon and "church" leadership, as
their "Pastor" Terry Brewer, doesn't see what's wrong with that.
All that and more is documented on the Internet. You can go to the
Google newsgroups and check yourself. He posts with
dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud); with Papa Boner; with
Barbara Schwarz is a notorious psychotic liar, an identity stealer, an
ugly cow, and a disgrace to the human race
(Boobara...@emailaccount.com); with with e-mail address
Barbara...@emailaccount.com and identities "Barbara_Schwarz";
"the real Barbara Schwarz de Rothschild"; "Truth Speaker 2"; and with
ID Still_lying_about_Marty. None of those posting is by me, the real
Barbara Schwarz, nor do I post under Babbling.Barbara.Schwarz and
e-mail address theonewhoisadelu...@emailaccount.com. I
posted first with ID "Guess who"? and e-mail account
theonewhoshallnotspeakout@emailaccount untill he stole again my
identity and posts now also with identity "Guess who" and with e-mail
account "theonewhoisadelusionalliar". He also stole the identity of
Mark Rathbun or Marty Rathbun (mrat...@scientology.org). Garry
Scarff's sexual harassment, insults, libel, persecution, harassment,
abuse, threats and cyber stalking of me, Barbara Schwarz, are under
different Google identities on the net. Scarff uses e-mail accounts
and posting identities with my name in it or a name similar as my name
to commit those crimes against me, but they can be all traced to him.
Interesting however is that he did not want to state his own address
to a court as he was afraid that he could himself come to harm. If he
fears criminality by not even tell the court where he lives, how come
he posts over and over my address on the net and lies that people
would get sexual services at my address and that there is a Hitler fan
club at my address? Scarff persecutes me from usenet thread to thread
often using my name as identity for his crimes (!) and verbally
assaults me, threatens me, harasses me, sexually harasses me, tries to
intimidate me, libels, insults and lies about me. He furthermore lied
that he spoke to a roommate of mine in the Utah mental health
hospital. I never was in that hospital, but he probably escaped from
one.

Scarff is the ultimate lawless and dangerous scum and police needs to
arrest him and lock him up.

Barbara Schwarz

Curt West

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Is this bat-shit cunt running for Pres. or what?

Curt West

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Who gives a damn what a homeless, insane cunt like you thinks?


Rev. Desertphile de Rothschild

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:46:08 GMT, "Curt West" <curt...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>"Barbara Schwarz" <Stilllov...@myway.com> wrote in message
>news:bf456302.04102...@posting.google.com...

>> dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message
>> news:<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>...

Two psychos arguing over who is the most crazy:

>>> LOL. Would you like to tell everyone how I learned of your arrest &
>>> conviction for shoplifting.... which you admitted to, then lied about,
>>> then admitted to??

>> You made that up. The SLPD never arrested me, but I will soon know how
>> often you were arrested in your life, Scarff. I am no flip flopper.

> Is this bat-shit cunt running for Pres. or what?

Psycho Barb is far more consistant that Bush2. Though it's still a
toss-up on which of the two would make a better president.


---
RE-ELECT PRESIDENT GORE IN 2004
http://lastliberal.org

Voting Republican makes baby Jesus cry!

Barbara Schwarz

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> "Leader Desslok" <des...@gamilon.ga> wrote in message
> news:417d5f37...@News.Individual.NET...
> > You should just remove that page.
> > You are just fueling his trolling. Take it down and I bet he goes
> > away.
>
>
> John *can't* take it down. I am his every being. He thinks of me every
> day. It would almost be flattering, if he weren't such a flaming douchebag
> loser.

That John sounds exactly like Garry Scarff (Dicktop_Stud) and Curt
West. They also think of my every day and I am their every being! But
I bet that "my" stalkers are even worse that yours.

Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz

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dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message news:<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>...
I did not tell the lies and are not delusional. Those lies were told
by the Salt Lake Tribune. And criminal and primitive Garry Scarff, fan
of extreme yellow journalism and pro dishonest and slimy reporters,
repeats those lies. Read the truth below.

From: Barbara Schwarz (Barbara...@excite.com)
Subject: AFFIDAVIT OF BARBARA SCHWARZ IN CASE VS. SALT LAKE TRIBUNE
This is the only article in this thread
View: Original Format
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Date: 2003-08-09 09:16:30 PST

The transmission of the response motion (the other thread) and the
affidavit did not function picture book perfect. The text is somehow
displaced, not as in the original, but anyway, below is the affidavit.

Barbara Schwarz,
Salt Lake City, Utah 84111


IN THE THIRD JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT
DISTRICT OF SALT LAKE COUNTY, STATE OF Utah


BARBARA SCHWARZ,
AFFIDAVIT OF Barbara Schwarz
PLAINTIFF,
v.
SALT LAKE TRIBUNE,
MEDIA NEWS GROUP, PUBLISHER
WILLIAM DEAN SINGLETON,
CHIEF EDITOR NANCY CONWAY,
INTERIM EDITOR BILL LONG,
EDITITIAL PAGE EDITOR VERN
ANDERSON,
MANAGING DIRECTOR TIM
FITZPATRICK,
REPORTER CHRISTROPHER
SMITH,
PHOTO EDITOR LORI POST,
PHOTOGRAPHER RICK EGAN,

DEFENDANTS.
CIVIL CASE


NO: 030912398 MI


JUDGE GLENN IWASAKI


I, Barbara Schwarz, the plaintiff in above captioned case file
herewith under penalty of perjury this affidavit, in response to the
affidavit of Salt Lake Tribune ("Tribune") reporter Christopher Smith
("Smith"), as filed in this case in July 2003.

1. Reporter Smith, the Tribune, and their counsel Michael Patrick
O'Brien ("O'Brien") filed the Smith declaration to mislead the court,
which is, according to my knowledge obstruction of justice. They try
to make the court believe that the few electronic mail copies,
attached as exhibits E and F to the Smith-affidavit would be all there
is. They conceal important information to the court, esp. about what
kind of article reporter Smith had promised me to write, how he
deceived me to agree to meet him and later, how he managed to get
under false promises the photographer in my apartment to take
pictures.
2. Concealing the other communication between us in an affidavit is
also perjury in my book. An attorney, as O'Brien, who participates in
this kind of cover up and obstruction of justice, should be disbarred.
The Tribune, Smith and their counsel know that there was much more
written communication, and this communication is damaging to the
Tribune. They don't want the court to see it.
3. The e-mails, as attached as exhibits to the Smith-declaration and
the defendant's memorandum in support of motion to dismiss and/or for
summary judgment, ("memo") were carefully selected by the Tribune,
Smith and their attorney to distract from the other letter and e-mails
we exchanged, in which reporter Smith promised me to write about a
very different subject than he later did in his maliciously defamatory
and despicable article of May 11, 2003, about me.
4. Here is the list of communication between Smith and I, as well as
other important documents in this case, all attached as exhibits to my
affidavit.
- Handwritten Christopher Smith, letter dated April 3, 2003 (Exhibit
A)
- Salt Lake Tribune Front Article, about me of May 11, 2002 (Exhibit
B)
- E-mail from Smith to me of April 3, 2003 (Exhibit C)
- My e-mail to Smith of April 5, 2003 (Exhibit D)
- My e-mail to Smith of April 14, 2003 (Exhibit E)
- E-mail from Smith to me of April 15, 2003 (Exhibit F)
- My e-mail to Smith of April 17, 2003 (Exhibit G)
- My first e-mail to Smith of April 18, 2003 (Exhibit H)
- My second e-mail to Smith of April 18, 2003 (Exhibit I)
- My third e-mail to Smith of April 18, 2003 (Exhibit J)
- E-mail from Smith to me of April 18, 2003 (Exhibit K)
- My e-mail to Smith of April 19, 2003 (Exhibit L)
- E-mail from Smith to me of May 1, 2003 (Exhibit M)
- My e-mail to Smith of May 1, 2003 (Exhibit N)
- E-mail from Smith to me of May 5 and May 7, 2003, both in content
same e-mails (Exhibit O)
- My e-mail to Smith of May 6, 2003 (Exhibit P)
- First E-mail from Smith to me of May 8, 2003 (Exhibit Q)
- Second E-mail from Smith to me of May 8, 2003 (Exhibit R)
- Third E-mail from Smith to me of May 8, 2003 (Exhibit S)
- My e-mail to Smith of May 8, 2003, (Exhibit T)
- My e-mail to Smith of May 9, 2003 (Exhibit U)
- My e-mail to Smith of May 10, 2003 (Exhibit V)
- E-mail from Smith to me of May 12, 2003 (Exhibit W)
- My e-mail to the Salt Lake Tribune executives, reporter Smith and
others reporters to correct their false reports of May 12, 2003
(Exhibit X)
- First July 2003 photo of me, Barbara Schwarz (Exhibit B1)
- Second July 2003 photo of me, Barbara Schwarz (Exhibit B2)
- Article in "News of the Weird" based on the maliciously and
defamatory Tribune article (Exhibit B3)
- Article in "Potpourri" based on the malicious Tribune article,
(Exhibit B4)
- Internet Usenet groups decision to vote me "Kook of month" based on
Tribune article. (Exhibit B5)
- E-mail from reporter M. of May 27, 2003 to me (Exhibit Y) (His full
name is deleted because he mentioned to me that he appreciates not
being named in Usenet.)
- Excerpt of e-mail from reporter M. of May 29, 2003 to me (Exhibit
Y1)
- Excerpt of e-mail of May 30, 2003 from reporter M. to me (Exhibit
Y2)
- Excerpt of e-mail of June 2, 2003 from reporter M. to me (Exhibit
Y3)
- Excerpt of other e-mail of June 2, 3003 from reporter M. (Exhibit
Y4)
- Alt.Religion.Scientology newsgroup headlines on me, listing my
private address against my wish. (Tribune referred the readers to this
newsgroup) (Hardcopy attached as exhibit Z)
- Information about the criminal anti-religious extremists that hailed
the Tribune article (Exhibit Z1).
5. Reporter Smith deceived me to agree to an interview and my photo
taken. I never would have met him, talked to him, responded to him, if
he would have not lied to me that the article would be about "how my
cases have resulted in an unusual ruling on how and when public
information may be released, which have broad implication for the free
press", and not about my personal life. (See his lie in his letter of
April 3, 2003 and his e-mail of April 3, 2003, referring to his
January e-mail of 2003 to me, exhibit A and exhibit C attached to my
affidavit.)
6. On April 3, 2003, I heard first time from reporter Smith. He came
to my apartment but did not met me. He did not reach me with e-mail,
but he also did not mail me any letter with the U.S. Postal Service.
He left a handwritten letter on my door with following information:"…I
am an investigative reporter from Washington D.C. who has studied your
legal cases on how the federal government has responded to your
request for information on Mark Rathbun. I have traveled to Salt Lake
City in the hopes of talking with you, since your cases have resulted
in an unusual ruling on how and when public information may be
released, which may have broad implications for the free press. I have
tried to reach you via e-mail but received no response… Could you
please contact me?" (See a copy of his letter attached to my affidavit
as exhibit A.)
7. The content of this letter is a far cry from the article "Salt Lake
Woman's quest strains public records system", that Smith later wrote
and the Tribune published on the front page of the issue May 11, 2003,
on Mothersday, to it approximately 150.000 readers and to an unknown
number of readers worldwide by putting the article also in their
online issue. (See a copy of the May 11, 2003 article with a distorted
or probably even doctored photo of me, to abuse my image attached to
my affidavit as exhibit B.) Smith wrote in this article the opposite
from what he had promised me he would write about. That is deception,
and that is how he got the interview and the photos.
8. I met him in good faith, because he had promised me to write about
the unusual rulings of the federal agencies and courts and how those
have a broad impact on the free press. If he would have told me that
he thinks I overloaded the FOIA system and that he wants to write
about that, I would have not agreed to see him or corresponded with
him, I would have not told him personal information about me, I would
have never agreed to photos taken, because it's not true that I
overloaded the FOIA system. Actually, during my interview and also in
his e-mails to me, Smith made me think that he is convinced that the
federal governmental agencies are at fault and not I, that the
agencies and courts treated me unfairly, that I deserve justice, that
the information that I requested would exist, that I requested smart
information, and that governmental employees are lazy and don't want
to work. However, I learned that what Smith says and claims in private
talk and mails is different from what he publishes in the Tribune or
claims through his attorney in this lawsuit.
9. I was rather open to Smith in the interview and my e-mails, because
he deceived me, making me think of him as a friend. In truth, Smith
was my enemy who never had plans to help me. He rather wrote a yellow
journalism article in which my image was abused, in which false facts
were stated, facts twisted, the readers furthermore misled through
many omissions and that all to increase the readership for his greedy
and already scandal riddled newspaper, the Salt Lake Tribune and to
advance his personal career on my costs.
10. The defendants and their dishonest counsel withheld also the Smith
e-mail of April 3, 2003. In this mail, Smith sent me a copy of his
January 27, 2003 e-mail, in which he also explains why he wants to
talk to me. In the January 27 e-mail, Smith did once more not say that
he wants to write an article on "how I overloaded the FOIA system" or
me being a crazy woman, but he wrote the following to me: "…I would
like to do a story on your efforts and how the government responded,
both in the courts and in rejecting your FOIA requests because of an
apparently brand new requirement that FOIA requesters must pay back
due bills to the federal government (noting your alleged $ 303 Bill to
the VA) before the government responds to a request for public
information. I recently encountered this Department of Justice
decision regarding your requests when I was researching another Utah
case here in Washington. As a member of the press, this is an unusual
requirement that in my experience I have never encountered before. The
precedent set with your request in requiring payment of fees not
related to search and retrieval of federal records has unusual
ramifications for both, the press and the public. Is there a time or a
phone number where I could reach you to discuss some background of
your fight with the federal government for access of those documents?
I am sorry but I don't have your phone number, although I know you
list an address in Salt Lake City on your court filings. Perhaps
publicity to your case will help in prying lose the records that you
have seeking for so long, please contact me…"
11. Even a dummy will understand, that Smith clearly deceived me by
tricking to meet him, to talk to him, to get my photos taken by lying
to me that he would write a very different article, than the "SL
Woman's quest strains public records system", in which he made me to
the bad guy, the kook, and the governmental employees that he called
lazy, work shy, unjust, secretive in private talks and even his
e-mails to me became suddenly his dutiful heroes. (See exhibit C, the
e-mail of April 3 and January 27, 2003 attached to my affidavit.) By
withholding those e-mails, defendants and their counsel once more try
to mislead the courts that the Tribune did not deceive me.
12. Smith pulled my leg by writing and telling me that his article
could pry lose the records that I am seeking for so long. His article
rather made sure that I never will get them. His article supported the
unconstitutional activities by the U.S. Department of Justice, Office
of Information and Privacy, and other FOIA offices, and they feel
better than before concealing information before me and conspiring
against me. Director Daniel Metcalfe spoke 5-10 Minutes at the ASAP
conference about that article and me, according to information that I
received from reporter M. (See his e-mail to me attached as exhibit Y4
to my affidavit.)
13. On April 5, 2003, Smith e-mailed again. He thanked me for the
interview. He again did not reveal that he planned to write a very
different article than promised and that I will be trashed, defamed
and my privacy outrageously maliciously violated in that that
article. He had to keep the deception up, because he still had to
trick me into my photos taken to abuse my identity even more. (See
exhibit D, his e-mail to me and mine to him attached.)
14. Smith deceived me in making me think that he is a friend and that
is the only reason I provided private information to him, but as the
court and everyone else can read in the exhibits, also in exhibit D,
my e-mail to Smith, I was operating completely under the assumption
that he would write the article, that he promised to write in his
letter, his April 3, 2003 letter and also the e-mails and what he had
declared as his true intentions during the interview. I was convinced
that Smith would use private information only as his background
information, that he would not use it at all, or if, then in just a
footnote.
15. In my e-mail of April 5, I informed Smith about an
unconstitutional ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court, using my
impecuniosity to deny access to this court to me, but I also explained
to him that not all justices agreed with that decision. Smith did not
use the information in his unfair article, because wanted to defame
me. Despite that Smith knows about the outrageous unconstitutionality,
his lawyer O'Brien is pushing the Third District court to adopt same
unconstitutional rules to deny access to the courts to me.
16. During the interview, Smith told me suddenly out of the blue that
he doesn't hope that I will be murdered. He did not explain who wants
to murder me and why I could be murdered, but he apparently had
information hereto. He seemed having not informed police, FBI, CIA or
any other authority on what he knew and that they shall protect me. On
top of all of that, he wrote later an article that made people hate me
and threaten me, and they expressed it on the Internet. He also
provided 150.000 households, the Tribune readers, with the address of
a criminal newsgroup of which he knew had illegally listed my home
address, even my apartment number in highlights on their front pages.
He did not only violate my privacy outrageously by doing so, he also
put my life on risk. Any criminal in the world knows where to find me
and I don't have the money to move. (See hardcopy of newsgroup
Alt.Religion.Scientology. They have my home address in their Google
headlines and that without my consent and against my wish. Exhibit Z
attached to my affidavit.)
17. I made clear to Smith in the interview, that if he wants to
contact the Church of Scientology, that he should contact its
President Heber Jentzsch, because the Scientology organizations are
infiltrated by non-religious people which lie. Despite that Smith had
this information, even knew that Heber had local ties, being original
from Utah, what could have added another interesting aspect to his
article, he did not contact Heber for his information and input, but
rather talked to an infiltrator of the Church of Scientology, Linda
Simmons Hight, who helped Smith smear my image. She misinformed that
they would not know about me and that I would be "delusional", when in
fact I was a high executive in Scientology and many Scientology
executives, including Heber Jentzsch, know me.
18. Further very odd is the fact that Smith did not try to reach Mark
Rathbun (de Rothschild) at all. How better to determine if somebody is
wrongfully incarcerated or not, by contacting that person? I conclude
that Smith knew that Mark Rathbun is wrongfully incarcerated in a
correctional facility and that he actively tried to conceal that in
his despicable article.
19. During the interview, I informed Smith that I had filed FOIA
requests to the U.S. intelligence community agencies in October 2000,
and asked them to pull the files on Osama Bin Laden and that none of
the federal employees checked his files, because they don't respect
the FOIA laws and are lazy and corrupt. I also e-mailed information
hereto to Smith. I claimed that if they would have pulled his files,
they could have connected the dots and stepped up the security for the
United States and the intelligence surveillance around Bin Laden and
that it would have been a darn good chance to prevent the September 11
terror attacks. Instead of reporting about that in his article, the
Tribune rather chose to defame my image. The very unqualified counsel
O'Brien tries to make me look nutty in his memo and twisted my words
in that I would have claimed that I could have prevented the terror
attacks or something like that. I never claimed so, I just very
correctly stated, that I pointed the government over and over to
search the Bin Laden files eleven months before the September 11
attacks and during the months before September 11, because I studied
the news and felt that the man was more dangerous than it was reported
about him in that time, and that he was up to atrocities. The
congressional panel that investigated the governmental failure to stop
the September 11 terror attacks, published a report in which they came
to the conclusion that governmental agencies had information in their
files which pointed towards the September 11, attacks, but they did
not connect the dots and did not coordinate. My requests for records
could have helped, if they just would have conducted searches instead
conspiring against my right to FOIA information. I tried at least, and
I tried hard to get the government look in the right direction. But
now, I am being blamed for that by the scornful counsel of the
Tribune, who did nothing himself to prevent the terror. I am defamed
by the Tribune, who could and should have written articles that could
have woken up the government to not ignore terrorists. Their
investigative reporters could and should have connected the dots in an
article to prevent September 11, but they did not. Smith should have
at least mentioned my October 2000 efforts, but why being honest to
the readers? The article was published to smear me, not to publish the
truth that I was right on target. I also wrote to Smith that it is
outrageous that I am called a "FOIA terrorist" by the government, by
trying to prevent terrorism, and the official that claimed me being
one, failed to pull the Bin Laden files to see what the real terrorist
was up to, and that we later got the September 11 attacks. (See my
e-mail with the Bin Laden information to Smith of April 14, 2003 as
exhibit E)
20. Tribune and their counsel also concealed the Smith e-mail to me of
April 15, 2003, to mislead the court. In this mail, Smith informed me
that federal workers are lazy and that they find any excuse not to
come to work. He did not mention that in his article. In his article
he called the lazy employees suddenly "dutiful" and "overloaded".
Smith had the insider information that the government doesn't like
FOIA requests, because federal employees don't like to work. The
readers of the Tribune would be certainly much more interested to read
how tax Dollars are used to pay lazy federal workers instead to read
about how the Tribune defames a private woman by smearing her
character, state of mind and activities.
21. In the April 15, 2003 e-mail, Smith also wrote that the government
treats me differently than other requesters, but he did not make that
clear in his article. This e-mail also confirms that Smith
acknowledged that I understood that he would not write about my
personal history. He continued to mislead me, telling me that he is
mainly interested in the long legal battle and the interesting
precedent that may be set with the way my FOIA request was treated.
Here are some excerpts from what Smith wrote to me that day: "One of
your interested FOIA officers – not the one who said you were a
"Terrorist", and he meant it with sarcasm – did indeed call me last
week to see if I have managed to find you in the flesh. He said he
wants to alert his colleagues that I had the ‘first visual' of the
legendary Barbara Schwarz, and wanted to know what the conversation
was like. I told him, he first has to wait till the story runs in the
paper to answer those questions and secondly, he may be disappointed
to discover you're not from outer space! I am hoping to get an
interview this week or next week with the government employees in the
Office of Information and Privacy here in the Justice Department who
came with the unusual policy on your request. The trouble is, when
Congress leaves town, all the government workers also tend to take
their vacations or leaves. It's sort of when the boss is on vacation,
all the employees come in late, take long lunches and go home early.
Washington federal employees will find any excuse not to come to work
– snow in the forecast, the terror level alert is raising, or the
pollen count or ozone pollution is too high. So I am not sure if the
OIP folks will be able to do an interview with me this week, but as
soon as they sit down and talk to me about why they treated your
requests differently than others, I will relay that to you." (See the
Smith e-mail of April 15, 2003, attached to my affidavit as exhibit
F.)
22. It certainly costs the taxpayer a lot more money paying lazy
federal workers that don't show up in their offices than the FOIA
requests mailed to the government by an individual. It is very
unethical by the Tribune to not report rather about governmental
workers kind of outrageous waste of taxpayer money. They misuse also
taxpayer money to conspire and campaign against me.
23. Smith mentioned in his April 15 e-mail that he had no time to
visit the newsgroup and read postings on my personal history and
added: "…But you are right, I don't necessarily think that's part of
this story. I am mainly interested in your long legal battle and the
interesting precedent that may be set with the way your FOIA requests
are being handled. And from what I have seen of other newsgroups,
there are definitely people whose only purpose in life is to write
nasty attacks and post them to these lists." (See Smith e-mail of
April 15, 2003, exhibit F attached to my affidavit.)
24. Smith knew that I was counting on that the article was not about
my personal life but about the precedent that was set by the
arbitrarily and conspiring acting and otherwise lazy governmental
employees on how my FOIA and other people's FOIA requests are being
treated. Smith continued to lie to me and mislead me in thinking he
would write this article.
25. Smith knew that newsgroups are nasty and that its posters are
often above the law. He knew that I was a target of at least one of
such groups, which spreads horrendous lies about me, nevertheless,
instead of sparing the Tribune readers such kind of information, he
referred them to the hostile group in his article. Smith also knew
that the newsgroup had my home address illegally in their headlines
and he sort of published my home address in the article, which is a
violation of my privacy rights without comparison. (See exhibit Z
attached to my affidavit.)
26. Furthermore, in his e-mail of April 15, 2003, Smith informed me
that he doesn't think that conspiracy theorists are crazy. He sort of
considered himself as one, but he certainly made me look like a crazy
conspiracy theorist in the Tribune article. He wrote in his e-mail:
"As far as conspiracy theories and theorists, many of my stories over
the year at the Tribune – and you came across several of them – deal
with things that some people say are conspiracies and things others
say are threats to our constitutional protection. I did a story that
ran front page of Sunday's Tribune about some of the new government
surveillance programs – total information awareness, project
Carnivore, etc. and how Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch is pushing these
programs. They may sound like the ramblings of a paranoid, but these
programs exist…" (See again e-mail by Smith of April 15, 2003, that he
did not attach to his affidavit, that the counsel did not attach to
his memo, to mislead the court.)
27. The Tribune, Smith and their counsel also withheld deliberately my
e-mail of April 17, 2003, part one in a series of four, that Smith
acknowledged having all received. In this e-mail, I told Smith that
it would be good to write an article about the problem with Congress,
that they pass their bills in one or two marathon sessions, otherwise
piddle around (those are the words of reporter Smith, see his e-mail
of April 15) and that it would be hard for reporters to keep up with
that. An article about that the public might miss information on what
Congress is doing because the reporters are not given fair time to
work through all of that certainly will be more interesting for the
readers than an article in which I am maliciously defamed, violated
and ridiculed on the front page.
28. In this April 17 e-mail, I pointed Smith towards the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) and the DOJ Office of
Intelligence Policy Review, its suspicious handling of my FOIA request
and my conclusion was that they have me unlawfully under surveillance.
Smith should have pulled that string and investigated, if his report
about that he finds total surveillance programs, Project Carnivore,
unconstitutional and threatening, was true. But he did not, because
the Tribune rather defamed me.
29. In same April 17 e-mail, that Smith acknowledged having received
on April 18, 2003, I informed Smith about my correspondence with
Senator Hatch, that I contacted him, that we exchanged many letters,
that he never wrote to me that he thinks that I am crazy suspecting a
governmental infiltration by non-American forces, but that he would be
unable to help, and that I shall hire an private detective and an
attorney. Smith doesn't like Hatch's spy program but ignored how
irresponsible Hatch acted in the matter that I presented to him. Hatch
was leaving any investigation into a secretly infiltrated government
solely on my indigent private shoulders. This would be a story the
Tribune readers would very much appreciate, not me being slam dunk on
the front page.
30. I made clear to Smith in my April 17 e-mail once again, that I
expect the article to be about the precedent on how requests are being
handled by the government and not my private life. – However, I felt
sorry about Smith having to read through that hostile newsgroup with
its bad language, assaults, threats and libel, just for a bit
background information or perhaps a footnote in his article. I decided
to mail Smith a summary of my life in three installments. It is very
despicable by the Tribune to publish such a maliciously hostile and
defamatory article about me, after being in details informed how hard
my life was, and how I was abused already before. The Tribune
defendants, all involved with this article, and also their counsel
O'Brien appear to be people without any human compassion or human
qualifications. (See me three e-mails of April 18, 2003, attached to
my affidavit as exhibits H, I, and J.)
31. Once again, I operated under the impression that Smith would read
the personal information as a friend, and for background information
only, and not that he would use the information out of concept and
context on the front page of his newspaper. In his e-mail of April 18,
2003, that he did not attach to his affidavit and that was also not
attached by the counsel to his memo, Smith acknowledged having
received all four parts of this series (First part of April 17, the
other three parts of April 18). He wrote with no word that he planned
to use any of the information in his article, he rather wrote that I
shall write a book about my life, which made me conclude that he has
no interest whatsoever to write about my private life, and that he
would stick to his promise to write about how other members of the
public and the media might become victims of governmental corruption
as well. Otherwise, Smith complained again about the missing work
moral of federal workers but also the State of Utah employees. (See
exhibit K, e-mail of Chris Smith, that was not attached to his
affidavit and not attached to the memo of counsel to mislead the
court.)
32. Smith did neither attach my e-mail of April 19, 2003 to his
affidavit neither did counsel O'Brien mention it. In that e-mail, I
explained to Smith that my life is not a science fiction and that the
CIA would be the agency to confirm that my memories are correct or
false. I explained to Smith that it is strange that none of the
agencies referred my request for records to the CIA, the agency that
most likely had records to my FOIA request for information to who I
am, because that would have ended the search. Instead of writing in
the article, that the CIA never conducted the smallest search, Smith
concealed the important information entirely, which is outrageous and
just serves to make the readers wrongfully think that such search took
place and no records were found. (See my e-mail of April 19, 2003,
attached to my declaration as exhibit L.)
33. In meantime, the Salt Lake Tribune Michael Vigh, Kevin Cantera and
Jay Shelledy scandal broke. The first two reporters sold fabricated
information about the Elizabeth Smart family for $20.000 to the
National Equirer, and Shelledy did not fire them. As Smith misinformed
me he would be an honest reporter, I consoled him in an e-mail of May
1, 2003, that he should not worry about the scandal because people
would judge reporters individually on their own ethically researched,
balanced and comprehensive style. But that was before I read the
Tribune article about me from which I concluded that Smith proved to
be another deceiving, dishonest, unethical, truth concealing and
misleading reporter, without respect of my rights and who is just
interested in yellow journalistic sensations, and not interested to
report how the facts really are. Smith claimed that Tribune reporters
and employees would have been smeared by other Tribune reporters, but
that did not stop the allegedly smeared Tribune reporters, editors,
executives and other employees to smear me.
34. On May 1, 2003, Smith wrote to me the following: "On other fronts,
I managed to speak this week to a top Justice Department official who
would not talk to me on the records but was involved in the decision
to notify other agencies about your FOIA requests and the unpaid bills
that are being used to reject your request…" Smith did not mention in
his article that the official did not talk to him on the record and
why the official did not talk to him on the record. I have to conclude
that was because he provided false information, and Smith knew about
that.
35. Smith continued to write in the May 1 e-mail: "…My editor asked me
if I would ask you to see if a photographer could take a photo of you,
maybe with the stacks of rejection letters of files of responses you
have to show how doggedly you have pursued this search. Let me know if
you are comfortable with that, since I know you value your privacy,
but it would help put a human face on the struggle with a faceless
bureaucracy. It was funny, but I asked the justice guy if he knew of
anyone in the entire government who has tried to resolve this outside
of appeals, courts, etc., and he said it has been resolved by no
longer processing any of your requests." (See the May 1, 2003, that
Smith and his counsel did not attach to the Smith declaration or the
counsel's memo to mislead the court having not deceived me. It is
attached to my declaration as exhibit M.)
36. Once again Smith misled me to believe that the article would help
me, not defame me, and it would be about how the government mistreated
my requests, denied my rights, didn't care to find a solution,
provoked appeals and litigation and to prevent that it will happen to
other members of the public or members of the free press. This Smith
e-mail very clearly described that he knew that my trying to get
records from the government was "doggedly" for me and not the
government, that he knew that I wanted to have my privacy, which he
outrageously violated by smearing my personal life (also by giving the
readers of the Tribune a direct link to my home address), that he
deceived me in agreeing to photos taken under the aspect that he would
write a very different article than he did. He also asked me to get my
files or letters on the photo. I pulled them out, which was a lot of
work, because I thought the files would be important, not my face, but
the Tribune did not use the photos with the files, because the article
was just to abuse my image. – And how in the world would a maliciously
defamatory and hostile article as the one of Smith about me pry lose
answers or records from the government? His article assisted the
government in feeling fine about denying them to me and mistreating
me. In any case, his e-mail is evidence that Smith knew that the
government had the information that I requested, but unlawfully wasn't
giving it to me.
37. Smith wrote in the May 1, 2003 e-mail: "It was funny, but I asked
the justice guy if he knew of anyone in the entire government who had
tried to resolve this outside of appeals, courts, etc. and he said it
has been resolved by no longer processing any of your requests. So,
there you go." He apparently thought it's all a big joke, but people
whose rights are being denied, don't find it funny.
38. Smith did not mention in his article that the government should
have offered a solution outside of appeals and courts, but he should
have included that in his article. Smith unfairly portrayed me as
unreasonable, while it was in fact the government who is. Smith knew
that if the government would had truthfully provided me with the
information they had on me and Mark Rathbun's whereabouts, I would
have not filed a second FOIA request, no administrative appeals and
certainly no litigation.
39. It's also striking that the Tribune makes now the same mistake as
the federal government, finding no solution outside of courts. They
could have printed my demand for correction or at least a letter to
the editor. They should have returned the approximately 100 photos and
the negatives that they illegally keep, and that is theft, theft and
theft. They rather provoke litigation than getting clean. In my e-mail
of May 12, 2003 to the Tribune executives and reporters I demanded
foregoing very clearly, but they ignored all of it. (See exhibit X,
attached to my affidavit, my September 12, 2003 letter to the Tribune
publisher, the executives. Editors, reporter Smith and other Tribune
reporters and employees.)
40. In the May 1, 2003 e-mail, Smith revealed that his editor and
photo editor Lori Post were also involved in the making of the article
about me. They are legally justified defendants to my lawsuit. So is
the photographer, who either doctored the photo they used in the
article, or he took the worst of a hundred shots to smear my image.
41. It is revealing that the counsel for defendants provided the court
twice and only with a copy of the Tribune article that doesn't show
the distorted or even doctored photo. They definitely try to mislead
the court that they A) did not publish a photo with the files (and
that was the whole purpose of the photo session as far as I was told
by Smith), and B) that they either doctored a photo of me or used the
worst shot of a hundred to give me a look that would fit in the
hostile article about me, to defame me, abuse my image and to ridicule
me. The readers of the Tribune article, esp. those on the Internet
reacted very cruel to the article. I was called publicly "drag-queen",
"Mr. Spock", "sin-ugly", etc.
42. Tribune photographer Rick Egan was 20 minutes in apartment. In
that time he shot one photo after the other of me. My estimate is that
he took around a hundred pictures. From those hundred, he and the
Tribune could have chosen a photo that looks more like me and also one
that showed my files.
43. With my little camera from the "All a Dollar-store", I had a
friend taking July 2003 photos of me outside of my apartment house.
They show how I really look like. (See attached two July 2003 photos
of me, attached to this affidavit as exhibits B1 and B2, and compare
them with the either doctored photo or worst shot of a hundred, as
used by the Tribune, exhibit B attached.)
44. Counsel of defendants lied over and over to the court that I would
have consented to the photos taken, which is not true, because I
consented only to a use of a photo showing me and my files or letters,
and only to be used in the article that Smith promised me he would
write. The Tribune clearly deceived me, because they knew, if I would
have known their true intentions to smear me, they would have not
gotten any interview and no photo of me.
45. On May 2, 2003, I e-mailed Smith in return. Nice as I am, I
continued to console him over the other Tribune scandals and today
wish, I just should have slammed the door on this reporter and the
photographer. In my e-mail of May 6, 2003, I wrote to Smith that I
indeed value my privacy. I also made clear to him that I don't like
photos on which I don't look like myself. That should have been enough
information for the Tribune to let me choose the photo that their
photographer took and to not use private information, from my life, in
this article.
46. After the photo was taken, the Tribune hurried terribly to publish
the article, to prevent that I might ask them to see the article
before it goes in print and let me choose my photo.
47. I agreed only to the interview, an article and the photo taken
because the Tribune deceived me in that Smith would write a very very
different article as they later published. This is also supported by
my May 6, 2003 e-mail, in which I go straight back telling Smith more
about the fraudulent fee issues by the federal government, how they
criminally fabricated fees without my knowledge, without my consent
and used them in a campaign to deny FOIA processing and records to me.
In this e-mail, that Smith attached to his affidavit, I informed Smith
once again that the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) never asked me
if I can or will pay, that I never allowed them to incur any fees,
that they knew I was indigent, and this is why they incurred the fees
in the first place, to get me in debts. They knew I did not have the
financial means to pay the fees. I informed Smith once again (I had
told him that already in details during the interview) that the FBI
Salt Lake City came up with a bill of $16,80 fees for same records
that they already sent earlier to me. The FBI also did not ask me for
consent to incur any fees and knew that I am impecunious. The DOJ,
Office of Information of Privacy took in September 2001 the $ 16,80
fees and wrote to all federal agencies to not more process my FOIA
requests because of the outstanding $ 16,80. In the interview, Smith
told me that it is unbelievable that the government launched such a
campaign just for $ 16,80, but he concealed his outrage in the
article. He knew that the campaign against me, involving almost all
federal agencies, did cost a hell of a lot more than $ 16,80. I
informed Smith that despite the fees were incurred without my
knowledge and consent, that I paid the $ 16,80 to the FBI Salt Lake in
early October 2001, and immediately after the FBI had the money order,
the OIP started a new campaign against me, using the criminally
fabricated $303, 30 VA fees, as new ground to deny FOIA processing and
records to me. I informed Smith, that I wrote an affidavit and sent it
to the agencies, explained that the fees were a fraud, that they never
were actually incurred, that the VA mailed me only 106 pages records
and that 100 of those were free, according to the FOIA statutes. I
informed him that the 106 pages came from a VA-file that they had
ready on hand, and no search time was involved. I made clear to him
that the VA charged me $ 303, 30 Dollars for six pages of records, and
that is fraud. – But Tribune and Smith made sure that the Tribune
readers and the on-line readers would not get the facts in that
defamatory and malicious article about me.
48. In the restaurant, during the interview, Smith admitted that it
doesn't matter how much I pay to the government, they would constantly
come up with new fees to deny FOIA processing and records to me.
49. Smith misinformed me, that he would be an investigative reporter.
He did not investigate the VA fraud. I told him that the VA avoids
filing an affidavit because they know the fees are a fraud. Smith, who
has his office in Washington D.C., should have asked the VA for an
interview and pull the strings on the fraud, which he didn't, because
he knew the fees are a fraud. The article was not meant to reveal the
truth, the article was meant to maliciously defame me, abuse my image,
mislead the readers and to cover up corrupt governmental activities.
50. However, I also informed Smith in the May 6, 2003 e-mail, that
most agencies participate in the campaign, but that they Federal Trade
Commission (who are fraud investigators) and the Hill Air Force Base
in Utah knew of the campaign, but decided to not participate in it and
to continue to process my FOIA/PA request and appeal. Smith should
have contacted them and asked them why they decided not to
participate, but as he did not want to write a fair article about the
matter, he did not contact them.
51. In my May 6, 2003 e-mail, and in the interview, I pointed out to
Smith how ridiculous the orders of the U.S. District Court of Columbia
on my legal cases were, that the judges did not care to look at the
facts, that I was not heard and that the judges cited the federal
defendants, the U.S. Departments over and over as "U.S. Depot of
Agriculture", "U.S. Depot of Energy", "U.S. Depot of Transportation",
etc. and that the judges made the impression as if they never attended
any high school. If Smith would have been a fair reporter, he would
have mentioned the outrageous unprofessional decisions, the fact that
I was not heard and the fact that the cases were not investigated in
his article. Smith concealed those facts to smear my image and to
mislead the readers. (See my e-mail of May 6, 2003 to Smith attached
as exhibit P to this affidavit.)
52. On May 5, and May 7, 2003, Smith replied with another e-mail of
same content. He informed me that Lori Post, the photo editor would be
happy to make a photo in my apartment, but Post never showed up, Egan
showed up instead, on May 9, 2003, twenty minutes late. My question is
why Tribune wanted to come to my apartment, when just a photo of my
head was used?
53. Smith continued to conceal that he did not plan to write the
article he promised me, he would write. He added: "I've got an
interview set up with one of the directors of the National Security
Archives today, which files numerous FOIA requests on the federal
government to reveal secret military and spying campaigns that were
conducted without the public knowledge. They are very respected and if
the government started saying that their requests were based on nutty
information, then that would be the end of what they do. The director
is also President of the American Society of Access Professionals, a
group of FOIA researchers. He seemed familiar with some of your cases
so I'll let you know what his thoughts are." (See e-mails of Smith of
May 5 and 7, 2003, attached to my affidavit as exhibit O.)
54. In the Tribune article, Smith certainly did not made clear to the
readers that the NSA files requests that could be looked at as
"nutty", but he sure did his best to let me look like a nut. I don't
know yet as how many other newspapers, TV stations, radio stations,
magazines and websites will use in future false information from the
yellow journalistic article of the Tribune about me, but many already
did. My image was further abused by "The News of the Weird", on June
15, 2003. That is a column by reporter Chuck Shepherd and as far as I
know, it runs in many papers of this nation and is also available
on-line and was picked up by on-line news providers as MSNBC and
others. Shepherd called me very falsely, maliciously and wrongfully
"People out of Control". He cited me wrongfully as most prolific filer
of FOIA requests (which I am not, according to reporter and FOIA
insider M. and according to the FOIA logs of the agencies.) Shepherd
didn't contact me for input, but further distributed malicious
falsehoods that Smith had made up and even cited a wrong date of the
Tribune article, May 5, 2003, instead of May 11, 2003. Apparently,
lying and truth twisting reporters do not only work for the Salt Lake
Tribune or the New York Times, but also for other papers. – The
headline, me being out of control, was as deliberately false and
malicious, as the headline of the Tribune, that I would have
overloaded the FOIA system. (See the News of the Weird article
attached as exhibit B3 to this affidavit.)
55. A Gazette with name "Potpourri" picked on June 9, 2003 the
malicious article of the Tribune up. They called me a "nut uses the
law (FOIA) idiotically". They spread the lie of Smith furthermore,
that I was born in a secret government compound. I never claimed that.
I was born in a hospital. Potpourri did not contact me either for my
comment. The other data used by Potpourri in the article are also
twisted, and the Tribune is mainly to blame. (See the Potpourri
article attached to my affidavit as exhibit B4)
56. The Internet, Usenet, was especially abusive. They voted me "Kook
of the month" for May 2003, based on the Tribune article. They
promoted the article all over the Internet right after it was
published. I was called "Psycho-Barb", "Drag Queen" and they compared
the Tribune photo to "Mr. Spock" from the Enterprise, called me a
"loon", "mentally ill" and numerous other insults, and they are still
at it. (See copy of Usenet printout about this attached to my
affidavit as exhibit B 5.)
57. On May 6, 2003, I e-mailed Smith more information and he claimed
he would have not received it. (See my e-mail of May 6, 2003 attached
to my affidavit as exhibit P.)
58. On May 8, Smith e-mailed me again that he wants a photographer to
come to my apartment. (See his e-mail to me of May 8, 2003 attached to
my affidavit as exhibit Q.)
59. On May 8, 2003, I e-mailed Smith that I did reply and that it was
not my fault that he did not receive the e-mail. I agreed to a
photographer coming, because Smith still was deceiving me that he
would write about a completely different subject than my private life.
(See my e-mail of May 8, 2003 attached to my affidavit as exhibit Q.)
Also this e-mail was withheld from the court. Defendants did not
attach it to the affidavit of Smith or to the memoranda. In this
e-mail Smith claimed that the Tribune Internet server has something
against Hotmail and Yahoo accounts, because they would get sometimes
blocked. With that information in mind, I changed to another e-mail
address of mine, not Hotmail and Yahoo and Smith complained later that
my mail "seem to come from various addresses". In the May 8, 2003,
Smith had twisted also my address, the street number and would have
sent the photographer to a false address. Today I regret that I
corrected that mistake of Smith, if I just would have known what the
Tribune was up to.
60. On May 8, 2003, Smith e-mailed me three times. In the last e-mail
he informed me that he spoke with Will Ferroggiaro, the FOI Project
Director of the National Security Archives. Smith wrote: "His point
was what you said earlier – the government cannot make a value
judgment on the validity of the information requested, that it must
respond as "value neutral", meaning even if the government thinks your
request is crazy, they cannot act by law any differently in responding
than they would to a request they may think is not crazy." – I don't
know what information Smith provided to Ferroggiaro, but most of my
FOIA requests were about the internal processing and search records
that the agencies generated, litigation records, and requests if the
attorney of Mark Rathbun (de Rothschild) or another attorney or an
Independent Counsel contacted the agencies to ask them for a copy of
my files or litigation records. What is crazy about such requests?
All the government had to do is to search their FOIA files for their
internal processing and search records, their litigation and their
subpoena files. I did not ask the government for UFO records or
something out of this world.
61. Smith e-mailed me that Ferroggiaro said that I am an example that
the system works. He must have been joking, because I am the example
that the system does not work. I did not get the records and the
government conspired against me with criminally fabricated fees to use
my indigency to deny records to me.
62. Smith e-mailed me that Ferroggiaro said that I acted properly
within the constraint of the law and could using it if the outstanding
fees were paid. But what he didn't say and what the Tribune didn't
print is, that the government acted unlawfully even criminally by
making up fees behind my back and without my consent to deny FOIA
processing to me. Smith knew that the fees were a fraud and he did
deliberately not contact the VA to get more evidence hereto. He rather
concealed the fraud and defamed me in his front page article. Why
should I pay fraudulent fees? It's also rotten and criminal to tell an
impecunious person, she shall pay hundreds of Dollars of fees, by
knowing the person doesn't have the money. According to my intuition,
there were offers to the government, likely by the attorney of Mark
Rathbun (de Rothschild) or others to pay the fees for me, but I think
that the government deliberately misinformed them, that the fees would
not exist, so that they can't be paid and the government can go on
campaigning against me.
63. In this May 8, 2003 e-mail, which Smith withheld in his affidavit
to the court, he continued to tell me that he also spoke to Daniel
Metcalfe from the DOJ, Office of Information and Privacy (OIP).
Metcalfe lied, that I would have agreed to the VA-fees. I provided the
VA, the OIP, and all agencies that wrote to me, that they would not
process my FOIA requests or appeals anymore because of the VA-fees,
with an affidavit and a request for investigation and explained the
background of the fraudulent fees. I told Smith during the interview
that the VA has no consent letter to show that says that they were
allowed to incur any fees, or that I would agree to pay any fees.
Smith, who lied to me that he is investigative reporter, did not pull
the strings. I also told and e-mailed Smith that the VA never provided
any declaration that the fees are no fraud, because they know they are
a fraud. Smith knew the fees are a fraud and that I was not treated
equally with others or lawfully, but he certainly concealed that to
the readers of the Tribune.
64. In the May 8, 2003 e-mail, Smith mentioned Professor Robert
Goldberg from the University of Utah, who confirmed that the
government has secrets, 33 million classified documents last year. But
Smith did not inform me what else Goldberg said about me. Those
remarks, I read first time in the article, and they are a completely
defamation of my character and state of mind. I don't know if Goldberg
came up with that by himself, or if Smith provided him with crazy
ideas about me, all I know is that the article is maliciously
defamatory. The Tribune should have never repeated those remarks in
the article.
65. Smith closed his May 8, 2003 article with the sentence: "It was
funny, but the first thing one official in the federal government said
when I began calling asking about your case was: "Can I ask how you
came to find out about Ms. Schwarz?" I had to laugh. (See the Smith
e-mail of May 8, 2003, attached as exhibit S.) I sure wonder what was
so funny. Probably his idea to smear me in a front page article of the
biggest newspaper in my home state. He should have included in the
article that the government wants to keep their violations against my
rights to be a secret, otherwise the official would not have asked
that question. Smith knew that government had dirty hands and tried to
conceal their activities, and he certainly helped them by twisting the
facts and made them look so perfect and innocent and me guilty and
crazy.
66. On May 8, 2003, I e-mailed to Smith and explained to him that
Ferroggiaro is to quick to judge that the records that I requested did
not exist. I referred again to the Bin Laden records that I requested
in October 2000, which did exist. I informed Smith again that the fees
that the VA made up were a fraud and that I overwhelmingly asked for
records on Mark Rathbun, internal search and processing records that
were generated during the first FOIA/PA search, and litigation
records. Those records definitely exist within the FOIA, legal files
and probably also executive office files of the agencies. (See exhibit
T, attached to my affidavit, my e-mail of May 8, 2003 to Smith.)
67. On May 9, I was still operating under the false impression that
Smith would really investigate and research my case, which he did not.
In my May 9, 2003 e-mail, which Smith did not attach to his affidavit,
I informed him about that many agencies had my FOIA/PA requests
pending for years, before anybody ever spoke about alleged fees, that
the agencies just waited for something to come along to assist them to
not having to process my requests at all. That "assistance" was the
fraudulent and criminally fabricated fees. I informed Smith again
that the OIP works with Mafia methods to deny FOIA processing and
records to me.
68. I also informed Smith about the de Rothschild family and he
concealed their name completely in his article, which is odd. I
furthermore informed him in the May 9 e-mail that I received contrary
information from the NARA, the Information and Security Oversight
Office about classification. Only a few years ago, I was informed in
an affidavit that they don't classify many documents, which would be
contrary to the claims of Professor Goldberg. I furthermore informed
Smith in that e-mail that Utah Assistant U.S. Attorney Steven Sorenson
made rumors up about what I said about family de Rothschild. Smith
twisted that even more around in his article and made "hidden
fortunes" and "faked death" out of data he arbitrarily twisted and
threw in his very badly and completely unprofessional researched
article. Smith received my May 9, 2003 e-mail, and I gave another
hardcopy for him to the photographer on same day. (See exhibit U
attached to my affidavit, my e-mail of May 9, 2003 to Smith.)
69. My May 10, 2003 e-mail is attached to the Smith declaration.
Amongst other data I informed Smith that Egan took many photos. (See
copy of my e-mail of May 10, 2003 attached to my affidavit as exhibit
V.)
70. On May 11, 2003, Sunday and Mothersday, the Salt Lake Tribune
published the article in a rush on the front page. The article about
that a Third District Court clerk was probed by the FBI run in the
same issue, but did not make the front page. Abusing my image in a
malicious article meant more to the Tribune than putting the criminal
activities of a court clerk on the front page. (See exhibit B, the
article attached to my affidavit.)
71. On May 12, 2003, Smith e-mailed me again. It was odd, because he
apparently tried to stay friend with me despite the malicious article
that he wrote. However, it can be easily explained. Smith knew that I
wasn't the abusing and nutty person that he described. He just hoped I
would overlook the malicious article, the falsehoods and the hostility
and would enjoy "the fame." (See his e-mail of May 12, 2003 attached
as exhibit W.)
72. On May 12, 2003, I e-mailed to 44 Salt Lake Tribune e-mail
addresses a demand for correction and asked them to return all the
photos and negatives to me. That e-mail was mailed for Publisher Dean
Singleton, to Editors Nancy Conway, Bill Long, Vern Anderson, Tim
Fitzpatrick, Lori Post, Christopher Smith, Rick Egan and several other
Tribune reporters and employees. I also delivered a hard copy on same
day to Tribune employee Lea, who told me she will hand it to Bill Long
same day. The Tribune ignored that request completely. They did not
print any correction, not even a letter to the editor and did not
return the photos or the negatives. I indicated in that letter that I
consider suing them. They did not care and provoked this litigation.
73. Counsel of defendants claimed in his rambling and with false
information overloaded memoranda, that my complaint was disjointed. It
wasn't. The article by Smith is disjointed and badly written. I used
his article, going through it step by step, while writing my
complaint. He should blame Smith and not me.
74. Counsel O'Brien claimed falsely that it would not be clear what
exactly would be not true in the article. Of course he knows what
exactly the falsehoods are, as I explained it already in my complaint
and the supplemental complaint that I filed in this case so far.
However, here again what's so terribly wrong in the Salt Lake Tribune
article: the article is false in sting and gist.
75. The headline is also completely false. The headline "S.L. Woman's
Quest strains public records system" is completely wrong and
misleading. Other people filed more FOIA requests than I did. Smith
e-mailed me not just once, that federal employees don't like to work.
They were not overloaded with work, but they are lazy and corrupt.
They waste taxpayers money by not doing what they are supposed to do.
They denied to me processing of FOIA/PA requests in September 2001,
which means, that if I ever overloaded the system (which I didn't), it
was not longer true in May 2003. Smith knew that he was two years late
in reporting about the story, so he misled the readers and made
socalled ancient history in newspaper business to present time events.
76. I did not "carpetbomb" every federal department and agency for
more than a decade with thousands of requests for public records the
government says don't exist. I filed only a few FOIA/PA requests
before 1997. That statement is also false. It is also defamatory
statement and should insult me furthermore of being a terrorist.
77. I did not count my requests, but I think I filed only a couple of
hundred requests. Many of my FOIA/PA requests were illegally not
logged in as such and not processed by the federal workers. The
requests that were logged in and processed were just a few hundred. M.
is a FOIA insider. He is also called "a serious student of the FOIA".
According to my information, he is a reporter, holds a Bachelor degree
from Cornell University and a law decree from William Mitchell College
of Law. He has written extensively on FOIA and Declassification Policy
issues. He thinks he is the person that filed most FOIA requests,
because unlike Smith, he seems having ordered the logs from the
agencies and saw that most FOIA requests were filed by him or other
reporters. The Tribune statement that I filed thousands of FOIA
requests is wrong. The statement that I filed most FOIA requests is
also wrong according to reporter M, who thinks that he filed most. I
believe that M., who worked for American Lawyer Media, sent an e-mail
to Smith informing him about that he filed most FOIA requests, second
ranked may be William Burr at the National Security Archive and also
Bill Bastone and David Green at the Smoking Gun website and William P.
Barrett, reporter of Forbes magazine. He sent me a copy of that
e-mail. (See e-mail from M. to me, dated May 30, 2003, attached as
exhibit Y2) Despite that Smith apparently received this e-mail, he did
not write any correction of his article of May 11, 2003. Amongst other
data, that are not important in this case, reporter M. guessed that
Smith probably never filed a FOIA request himself. He wrote that the
agencies engage in disingenuous cat and mouse games with requesters,
lying, cheating and just plain being grossly uncooperative with people
who ask for records. I told Smith about reporter M. and his thousands
of FOIA requests. I referred Smith to M.'s website. He should have
contacted this reporter for his experience with the agencies, but
Smith did not, he rather wrote an article that is wrong in sting and
gist. Smith also should have reviewed the FOIA logs of the agencies
himself and would have found that M., but also other likely other
reporters filed many many more requests than I did.
78. Smith should have explained to the Tribune readers that the
government is maybe claiming that the records don't exist, but that he
himself believes that they, or some of them, indeed exist. Once
again, I asked mainly for copies of their internal processing and
search records, my litigation records, records about Bin Laden,
President Eisenhower, Mark Rathbun (de Rothschild) and his family, L.
Ron Hubbard, Scientology, subpoenas, etc. The claim, that I mainly
requested records that don't exist, is false.
79. Smith claimed that I have no legal training. That is not correct
either. I have no official legal training, but I trained myself by
reading laws and court rules. I also told Smith during the Interview,
and e-mailed him, that I was the President of the Church of
Scientology Germany, and before worked in the press office of the
Church of Scientology and also otherwise held executive positions in
European and International Scientology organizations. I received
public relations and legal training in those organizations. It was
malicious by Smith to misinform the readers about "no legal training".
They should view me as dummy that files unqualified papers and bothers
the government with it. People should get angry over me. In the
interview, Smith complimented me on my sharp mind, excellent memory
capacity and told me I should become an attorney. He certainly left
that out of the article. The claim, that I have no legal training at
all, is false too and statement was made to degrade and humiliate me
and misinform about me in public.
80. I did not stretch FOIA to its limits, because other people filed
so many more requests as I did. They filed thousands and I just
hundreds, and furthermore, as Smith himself wrote, the federal
employees don't like to work. They delayed my requests most of the
time and avoided processing my requests long before the unpaid fee
issue came up. The claim, that I stretched the FOIA system to its
limits, is a lie.
81. Smith wrongfully made the submarine village, a place that I recall
having the name Chattanooga, to the center of my FOIA requests, which
is another lie. It is false in sting and gist, because I requested
mainly internal search records, subpoena and litigation records. The
claim that I mainly asked for my hometown records, is false.
82. I never claimed that the submarine was a governmental owned. I
always wrote and said that I recall it was a privately owned sub. The
claim, that the submarine village is governmental owned, is another
false report.
83. I never said or wrote to anybody that I am illegally in the USA.
The claim that I am illegally in the USA is false, because everyone
born in the USA, as I am, is a United States citizen.
84. I never claimed indigency to avoid paying court fees. I am
indigent, and Smith and the photographer, who came to my apartment
know that. They describe my "austere" apartment in the same article.
If I would have money, it wouldn't be that "austere". Smith also knew
that I have no job and no car. I also provided affidavits to the
courts explaining my indigency. I claim indigency, because I am
impecunious. The claim, that I would claim indigency to avoid having
to file court fees, is another nasty lie by the Tribune.
85. I am not a slightly build woman. I am a normally sized build
woman. The statement that I am a slightly build woman is false.
86. The derogatory statement by the Tribune that a federal employee
called me a "FOIA terrorist" is misleading, and outrageously
malicious, defamatory and insulting. This kind of insult is not
covered by free speech, which is libel. Question is also why those
people that filed so many more FOIA requests than I did were not
defamed as "terrorists".
87. I told Smith during the interview, that only one employee of the
EPA asked others if they have been "schwarzed" and Smith blew that out
of proportions for his yellow journalistic article. My letters to the
EPA were also not "unending". The statement by Smith that more than
one employee used the verb "schwarzed" is false, and so is his
statement that I sent unending request letters.
88. Tribune concealed in the article that I am not the person that
filed most pro se civil cases the courts, but they made it certainly
look like that. The person that filed most civil cases is a man with
name Clovis Green and according to my information, he filed
approximately 700 cases to courts. I am also convinced that there are
other litigants that filed many more cases than I did. It raises
eyebrows when others may file 700 law suits and are not restricted, or
not sooner restricted filing those, and I was restricted in my
constitutional rights asking courts for relief by filing a lot less.
That doesn't sound like equal justice to me. Tribune portrayed me as
prolific filer of lawsuits without reporting that others filed so many
more. The Tribune claimed that at least one of my lawsuits were
considered by a U.S. District Court or a U.S. Circuit court somewhere
in the nation every year since 1993. Fact is - one is not many. The
courts also did not "consider" my cases, they just looked for
justifications to illegally throw them out.
89. The Tribune cited U.S. District Court judge John Bates having
claimed that I would be a "misguided individual" that files requests
to every agency or subdivision on "imaginary conspiracy". Smith knew
that he is one of the judges who don't know that the U.S. Departments
of the government are called just that and not U.S. Depots, and he
signed an order/judgment that shows that this man is everything else
than a professional or impartial judge. I pointed that out to Smith,
and also that the court worked with outrageous illegal activities
denying access to the court to me. For example, the chief judge Thomas
Hogan allowed me to proceed in forma pauperis while I had a bit more
money, but said my complaint would be too long and not permitted by
the court rules. After I corrected that and filed smaller complaints,
other judges on the same court suddenlydid not allow me anymore to
proceed in forma pauperis with the case, despite that I had less money
than when Hogan granted the in forma pauperis status to me. If that
happens to you, you can claim rightfully that there is a conspiracy,
and the conspiracy is not imaginary. Smith failed completely to report
facts and my side of the legal story and misled the readers.
90. The Tribune article mentioned that two federal courts have ruled
that my requests are frivolous and a waste of governmental resources.
Smith knew that the agencies, the lazy federal workers denied my
rights and conspired against me with fraudulent fees and that me
filing lawsuits against them was not frivolous and no waste of
government resources. He also knew that the courts did not hear me and
never investigated the facts, the merits of the case. He furthermore
knew that the orders/judgments that the U.S. District of Columbia
issued on my cases were absolutely unprofessional, as if those
judgments/orders were not written by American judges. The judges
referred to the defendants, the U.S. Departments as "Depots", and
there is no such a thing in the U.S. government as a U.S. Depot of
Energy, a U.S. Depot of Transportation, a U.S. Depot of Agriculture,
etc. Smith knew of the unconstitutionality and unprofessionalism of
the judges and did not mention that in his article to mislead the
readers. During the interview, I referred Smith to the non-profit
group "A matter of Justice", who tries to hold esp. federal judges
accountable for their actions of unconstitutionally mistreating people
that seek justice from the courts. Smith failed to contact them,
because he did not want to hear about the sad statistics of abuse of
power by federal judges. This group has contacted me a couple of
times, because they looked in my cases. They also published following
information this month: "Hofstra Law Professor Monroe Freedman said
this recently to a conference of federal judges: ‘Frankly, I have had
more than enough judicial opinions that bear no relationship
whatsoever to the cases that have been filed and argued before the
judges. I am talking about judicial opinions that make the
disingenuous use or omission of material authorities, judicial opinion
that cover up things with no publication and no citations rules.'
Afterwards when Professor Freedman sat down, a judge sitting next to
him turning to him and said: ‘You don't know half of it.'(Suggesting
even more serious implication than the alleged statement by Professor
Freedman.)" If Smith would be a fair and investigative reporter, as he
had claimed to me he would be, he would have found that the judges in
my cases made the same with my cases, and that they also did to me
what the one federal judge was suggesting to Professor Freedman, which
is, according to my own experience, conspiring with federal defendants
to get rid of cases with unconstitutional and unlawful means. If
Smith would have pulled strings, he could have discovered that the
House Republicans, led by Lamar Smith of Texas, were working to set up
a new task force to scour the output of federal judges for evidence of
what the Republicans call "judicial abuse." The dismissal of my cases
was judicial abuse, and the Tribune concealed that from the readers.
91. I did not claim that Marty Rathbun, my husband, is wrongfully
incarcerated for my own murder. This is another false statement by the
Tribune. I claimed and still claim that he is wrongfully accused
(framed) of having abused, raped and murdered me, but that he was
wrongfully arrested on November 21, 1988, in Madrid, Spain, on false
charges having transferred high amounts of Spanish money to the USA
while being employed by the Church of Scientology. Those are two
different matters, and Smith packed it in one to misinform the readers
outrageously. The claim, that I have stated claimed that Marty Rathbun
is imprisoned for my own murder, is false.
92. The Tribune misled the readers with the report that "this plot can
be recited almost chapter and verse by a legion of civil servants and
judges who have dutifully waded through pages of her screeds." This
can't be true, because I did not claim that, but I claimed what I
wrote in forgoing paragraphs of this affidavit. It would have been
better if Smith had made his homework for the article dutiful, which
he didn't. Not one agency has information from me in their files that
Mark Rathbun is imprisoned of my murder. He is imprisoned on other,
but also false charges, however, according to my intuition also
accused (framed) of having harmed, raped and murdered me, but not
convicted on these fabricated crimes.
93. Smith concealed that I asked the governmental agencies if the
attorney of Mark Rathbun (de Rothschild) or an Independent Counsel
subpoenaed my FOIA or litigation records from the agencies. I believe
that this is the fact, and Smith knew about it and deliberately did
not mention that in the article, rather filled the article with
malicious falsehoods.
94. Smith deliberately withheld which of the White House
administration received the many letters from me, because the Tribune
was years late with reporting about the matter. It was the Clinton
White House administration, but I did not claim to President Clinton
or to any other U.S. President that Mark Rathbun is falsely imprisoned
for my own murder. I wrote to them what I stated under foregoing
paragraphs of this affidavit. The statement by the Tribune "And she
has written hundreds of letters to the White House, demanding to know
the whereabouts of a husband she contends was falsely imprisoned for
her own murder", is misleading and partly false.
95. I also made clear to Smith that I think that Mark Rathbun is still
falsely imprisoned.
96. Smith failed to report in this article that DOJ, Office of
Information and Privacy, starting a nationwide campaign against me for
outstanding fees of $ 16,80, to which I never gave my consent to be
incurred, is an outrageous waste of governmental money.
97. Smith wrote that I incurred search and copy charges. I did not,
and I told and wrote to him that many times. I am indigent. I never
tell somebody to incur fees for me, because I can't pay them. The
statement, that I have outstanding search and copy charges that I
incurred from various federal agencies, is false.
98. Smith wrote that the DOJ claims I am not treated differently than
others, but in private, Smith told and e-mailed me that he believes, I
am treated differently. He did not cite the one or two other
requesters that were allegedly treated as I was, so that nobody can
check if that is really true and what the difference was between them
and I. The claim, that I am not treated differently than other
requesters, is false. I am treated a lot more lawless than other
requesters. I also refer again to M. and the other requesters that
filed thousands of requests, but definitely more than I. According to
my knowledge the government did not launch such a fee campaign against
them under same or similar circumstances. Smith failed to provide
evidence in this article, that others were treated just like me.
99. Smith cited Daniel Metcalfe, co-director of the DOJ, Office of
Information and Privacy, claiming that there was a commitment to pay
and that I am in default, but Smith knew that I never gave any agency
any authority, any agreement, any consent to incur fees for me. Filing
a FOIA request means that the first two hours search time and the
first 100 pages documents are free. If the agency has more documents
or hasn't completed the search, it has to provide the requester with
an estimate of costs, how much she has to pay and has to wait till the
requester mails a written consent form to them, authorizing the agency
to incur the amount. The DOJ, OIP, Metcalfe, the Department of
Veterans Affairs, and Smith knew that I never received such an
estimate from the VA, that they never informed me they want to incur
fees. They knew I never authorized the VA to incur any fees, I was
completely surprised when they asked me to pay 303,30 Dollars, and
those are no search fees and no copy fees, but the study time of my
file by a student. It says nowhere under the FOIA that a FOIA
requester has to pay students for their study time of files. It was
irresponsibly by Smith to just throw the fee issue in his article, but
not to contact the VA to see how the fees came about to be and not to
write that the DOJ plotted with the VA to deny my rights for FOIA
records with the fraudulent fees.
100. I don't doubt that my litigation against the agencies created an
interagency focus, as Smith cited Metcalfe, but the Tribune failed to
mention that my litigation was provoked by the agencies and justified.
Most of the agencies referred me to the courts for review, and my
guess is that they know that corrupt judges will cover for them and
let them come away with their violation of federal laws and the U.S.
Constitution.
101. The Tribune wrote that the DOJ, OIP, can legally deny me my
requests for records. That is false too, because he knew that the fees
are a fraud, and OIP can not legally deny processing my FOIA/PA
requests and appeals based on fraudulent fees.
102. Smith wrote: "But Schwarz is not giving up. She says she can't.
Every boilerplate rejection letter from the federal government only
widens the circle of suspicion that spawns more requests. And until
she knows the answers, she says she is incapable of moving on with her
life." I did not say that. Smith cited me out of context. It was
another false report. Smith knew that I had to give up asking the
federal government for records, because they simply did not process
them anymore since they came up with the illegal fee campaign in
September 2001. He lied by writing that every boilerplate rejection
letter from the federal government would spawn more requests. He knew
that I had to give up filing requests. He was two years late reporting
about that. I did not tell Smith that I can't move on with my life. I
don't use that expression, because it's a stupid one. No matter what a
person does or doesn't do in her life, life goes on.
103. Smith cited me like an incoherent idiot, to make that fit in his
malicious article. The Tribune printed, that I should have said: "I
have no money for this but I am forced to do it because the purpose of
the law is to reveal, not conceal and government should be
transparent." This sentence makes no sense and I don't talk that
incoherent. Smith cited me deliberately incoherent to defame me as an
idiot. If one wants to know how I express myself, read this affidavit,
which is my style, not fractions of sentences put together that make
no sense at all.
104. The Tribune mentioned a memo issued by the Office of Information
and Privacy in September 2001, saying that my quest would be "all
based on unique personal notions that, most charitably stated, are
entirely fanciful in nature." Smith never showed me the memo, but he
should have, to get my input. Smith knew that the government has to be
face value neutral, to the content of FOIA requests, and he did not
write in his article that the OIP violated that with their memo. Smith
also knew that the agencies had internal search and processing
records, records on my litigation, records on Mark Rathbun, L. Ron
Hubbard, former President Eisenhower, Scientology, records on Bin
Laden, and in all likelihood the subpoenas, and that those records
were not fanciful nor crazy in nature. Smith knew that the government
just did not want me to have the records, and that is the reason why
they wrote the memo and stated nationwide campaigns against me.
105. Smith wrote that I believe that I am born in 1956. That is a
false report too. I know I am born in 1955.
106. Smith wrote that I believe that I am born in a secretive
government compound "submarine base" called Chattanooga on the Great
Salt Lake. That is also a deliberate false statement by the Tribune. I
never stated anywhere that the submarine village, whose name I recall
as "Chattanooga", is a governmental compound. Smith concealed that I
told and wrote to him that the village is owned by family Rathbun/de
Rothschild and is privately owned. I also never claimed that it is on
the Great Salt Lake, but rather in the Great Salt Lake, on the ground
of the lake.
107. Smith picked deliberately information of my personal life,
twisted it and threw it out of context in his malicious article. I was
not officially kidnapped by Nazis after 1955 – 1960, but by a private
German woman, who was supported by people that still were secretly
Nazis. The Tribune recited a list belonging to my life story, e.g.
mind control, conspiracy, insane asylums, cover-ups, and microchips
implanted in unsuspecting people's head, which made no sense and was
not helpful for the reader. The Tribune just tried to confuse the
readers. They never had my authority to put that in the article, esp.
not out of context. The Tribune wanted the readers to think that I am
crazy, while Smith knew that I am not. The Tribune violated my privacy
by publishing such a list to approximately 150.000 households in my
home state and on-line, and they failed to explain to the readers what
my real life story is.
108. The Tribune mentioned "hidden fortunes" and "faked death" being a
part of my life story, which is not true either. I don't know of any
hidden fortunes, and nobody who I know ever faked a death, and neither
did I.
109. The Tribune wrote: "Besides constantly referencing the tale in
her FOIA requests and court filings, Schwarz has posted it in more
than 80 parts on the web newsgroup alt.religion.scientology." It is
another false report by Smith that I would cite his foregoing list,
which he claims to be my life story, constantly in my FOIA requests
and court filings. I claimed mainly to the agencies and the courts
that I don't get the internal search records, their e-mail, logs,
memoranda, work sheets, notes, fax transmittal sheets that they
generated during the first searches, that they don't provide me with
the litigation records that they also have, that they don't conduct
adequate searches to subpoenas received, etc., and that is also what I
mainly claimed to the courts. Smith referred the approximately 150.000
households that read the Sunday issue to above mentioned web
newsgroup. This was an outrageous violation by Smith and the Tribune,
because that newsgroup has my private address including the apartment
number published in headlines and refused to take it down, despite
that I demanded it. The referral to this newsgroup is not only very
tasteless by the Tribune, because Smith knows that the majority of
people posting there are very lawless and insulting, it as if he would
have published my home address and my apartment number directly in the
article. All what the Tribune readers and also those readers on-line
have to do is: log in to the newsgroup, type my name in, and they know
my home address! (See exhibit Z2 attached hardcopies of newsgroup
headlines under my name.)
110. Many of the other people that post on this website have a
criminal history, as described on the "Extremist-pages" of the
www.religiousfreedomwatch.org. (See exhibit Z1 attached.) It is
incomprehensible, that a newspaper, that claims having conservative
readers, refers their leaders to a criminal snake pit as this
newsgroup for information about my private life. It's reckless, it's
malicious. Tribune attorney O'Brien misinformed the court that this
group is a Scientology newsgroup. It is not. It is an anti-Scientology
newsgroup.
111. The Tribune wrote that I should have said: "This is when people
say, ‘You're crazy', she says. Once again, the Tribune cited me
incoherent and out of context. I don't talk like Smith cited me. I am
very good in expressing myself and I did not make statements like
that, which makes no sense at all.
112. Smith lied in the article: "That includes her belief she was once
married to a man named Mark Rathbun…" I told and wrote crystal clear
to Smith that we never got divorced, which means that Mark Rathbun (de
Rothschild) and I are still married. I told and wrote to Smith that
the Scientology organizations are infiltrated by non-Scientologists,
which also outed me. I made clear to him that when he calls them that
he might be lied to by such an infiltrator. From our talk and
correspondence it should have been clear to Smith that he should try
to reach Mark Rathbun (de Rothschild) himself, or, if that is not
possible, because he is wrongfully incarcerated, that he should
contact the President of Scientology International, Heber Jentzsch,
who is originally from Utah. Smith deliberately contacted only Linda
Simmons Hight, an infiltrator, who misinformed that they would be
clueless about me and that I am delusional (a psychiatric word that
Scientologists don't use) about Mark Rathbun and would need help (in
other words, of course psychiatric help, which is also one of the
worst violations of the Scientology belief and the psychiatric free
lifestyle of Scientologists).
113. The Tribune, Smith and Simmons Hight concealed that I was the
President of the German Scientology organization and held also high
executive position in the European Scientology Org and was one of the
three board members of pretty much all of the international
Scientology financial reserve accounts. Smith failed to do the most
logical thing, trying to get hold of Mark Rathbun for his input, or
alternatively, because Mark Rathbun can't be found as wrongfully
incarcerated, to ask a real Scientologist as Mr. Jentzsch, for his
opinion.
114. Simmons Height is also "not sorry" for me. She did not contact me
to offer any help, and the only help that I need from her or anybody
else, is the truth about Mark Rathbun's whereabouts.
115. The Tribune wrote: "When Schwarz is shown a recent photo of
Rathbun from the church, she maintains it is not the same man that she
asked the federal government to help her locate." This is another
outrageous lie by Smith. Neither he nor the church or anybody else
showed me a recent photo of Mark Rathbun. I told Smith crystal clear
in the interview that there is a recent photo of Mark Rathbun on the
official website of the Church of Scientology, and that this is the
real Mark Rathbun, but that I nevertheless believe that he is
wrongfully incarcerated. That Tribune statement is so mean, because it
was made to alienate us. If Marty reads the article, he should think
that it is not him, who I want back.
116. Smith wrote me in his e-mail only little of what Professor
Goldberg said about me, and after I read the article, I know why,
because either Smith misinformed Goldberg about my state of mind, or
Goldberg, who never saw me, never talked to me, never corresponded
with me, made sort of psychiatric or psychological evaluations of my
state of mind, which is very unprofessional. His evaluations are
false, and if the Tribune would be a smarter paper and Smith a better
reporter, he would have not used those statements. The statement that
I have "manifestations" is wrong. I have opinions like other people
too, but I am not fixed on them. If somebody shows me crystal clear
facts that things are different, I see and accept them, but those must
be facts and not just lies by criminal people that try to mislead me.
117. Smith cited Goldberg saying: "So when the federal government says
you have everything we have on this subject and there's nothing, that
only feeds more fuel to the fire in her soul." Fact is, if the
government would have truthfully stated that they don't have more
records to my request, it would not feed more fuel to the fire in my
soul. However, I have the evidence that the agencies withheld
internal communication records and litigation records from me. I also
don't have a fire burning inside me as far as agencies are concerned.
I am not fired up on them, I just notice their outrageous violations
of my rights, but Smith knows that despite all of that, I am calm and
emotionally balanced.
118. The Tribune cited William Ferroggiaro, director of Freedom of
Information Project of National Security Archive at George Washington
University and President of the American Society of Access
Professionals. He properly stated that I am using the law as it was
intended, but the Tribune added that he stated: "…even if her efforts
cannot be characterized as bizarre." The Tribune should have seen that
this statement is contradictory, because when I use the law as
intended, my efforts are not bizarre. The Tribune should have not used
such a contradictory statement, because it makes not only me, but also
Mr. Ferroggiaro look unintelligent.
119. Smith wrote in the article that I tried unsuccessfully for years
to adjust my status with the Immigration and Naturalization Service
before giving up. That statement is not correct either. Smith made it
up. I told him that I am born in the USA. U.S. citizens don't need the
INS. I told Smith during the interview that the INS wrote to me that
they consider me to be a U.S. citizen. I tried to obtain records from
the INS on me, but I did not fight the INS differently than any other
agency of which I believe had not handled my FOIA requests adequately.
I also told Smith that the INS mailed me citizen papers, but that
those belong to an immigrant Barbara Schwarz, and that is not me.
120. Smith wrote that I would have said that I have a German birth
certificate, but it was doctored to conceal that I was actually born
in Utah. He concealed that I said that the German authorities knew
that I was born in Utah, that is why they left the most important
information in a birth certificate out, the place and the country in
which I was born. I told him crystal clear that according to this
"birth certificate", I AM NOT BORN IN GERMANY, and I would have shown
it to him, if he would have said he wants to see it. It was not
doctored, it was issued in that suspicious form by the German
government.
121. During the statement, Smith made a remark out of the blue, that
he hopes that I am not being murdered. I did not mean the INS, when I
replied: "They could probably arrest me or throw me out of the country
for filing FOIA requests, but I am not easily scared." I meant a set
up, by those of which Smith knew, want to murder me. And he certainly
has a way to help a woman that might be murdered by writing a
malicious article about her that invites people to hate and probably
even murder her. He certainly showed them the way directly to my
apartment. Smith used that statement of mine completely out of
context.
122. Smith misinformed the readers of the Tribune also with following:
"Although Schwarz always requests that the standard fees for searching
and copying records be deferred because she is poor and the request is
in public interest, a federal judge in the nation's capital ruled in
2001 that she didn't deserve a fee waiver because her disclosure would
not "contribute significantly to public understanding of the
operations or activities of the government." The Tribune did not make
their homework once again. FOIA statutes grant any requester, rich or
poor, two hours free search time and 100 pages free records. What
Smith did not report is that agencies often did not grant those two
free hours and 100 pages free records to me and violated the FOIA
statutes and my rights. – However, if an agency has more records than
100 pages and the employees have to conduct longer searches, a
requester may ask for a fee waiver, which is very often granted to
requesters, unless, the requester is I, Barbara Schwarz, and the
records requested show how corrupt the agencies are in concealing
records or not wanting to search them in the first place. The judge
was completely wrong with his ruling that disclosure of the internal
processing records that I requested, would not "contribute
significantly to public understanding of the operations or activities
of the government."
123. Very strange is that Smith did not cite the judge with a name and
that he would not cite more details, e.g. case name and number that
readers can verify his statement. That probably was because the order
of the judge was also otherwise completely unprofessional, and just as
that from judge Bates of the same court, cited the U.S. Departments as
"U.S. Depots." I refer again to the earlier paragraphs in this
affidavit in which I cited Professor Freedman's statement about
corruptions by federal judges and to that the GOP, the House
Republicans have set up task force to investigate federal judicial
abuses. - "A matter of Justice" posted recently "From the Supreme
Court on down, America's judiciary, once representing the hope of
justice, equally under the law and protection of the innocent, has
largely become just the opposite – protector of the corrupt and
destroyer of the Constitution, according to the no-holds-barred August
2003 edition of WorldNetDaily's popular Whistleblower magazine." It
says that Americans fear attorneys and judges more than terrorists.
124. The Tribune reported that upon that court decision, the DOJ
"began tracking her outstanding FOIA bills and using those debts to
disqualify further requests, beginning with a $ 16,80 balance due to
the Salt Lake field office of the FBI. However, the legal judgment,
which Smith cited, without making any specific reference, did not
state that the government is allowed to fabricate fees behind my back
and use them against me. But as the courts conspire with the
defendants and as the courts denied access to the courts using also my
poverty, the agencies think they will come away with it. Smith knew
about the outrageous injustice and has concealed it from the readers.
He wrote in the article "To her it is all a part of the conspiracy."
Heck, what else should it be than a conspiracy when the government
criminally fabricates fees without my knowledge or consent and almost
all agencies participate in that campaign denying FOIA processing and
records to me?
125. The Tribune should have not printed the remarks of Goldberg, who
allegedly said: "This circle is never going to close. Perhaps having
this cause and mission gives her a will to live." What lie did Smith
tell him about me? That I am suicidal? This statement is completely
contrary to my own statement at the end of the article, a statement
that I indeed made, that I am an optimist. And why does this circle
never close? It closed already in September 2001, when the agencies
decided to fabricate fraudulent fees to use my indigency to deny
records to me! Once more, the Tribune lied to their readers that I
still would "overload" the FOIA system, despite that I never
overloaded it in the first time. From my experience, most of the
agencies had no backlog at all processing FOIA/PA requests, and were
not overloaded by anybody with requests.
126. At the end, the Tribune wrote: "But Schwarz says being labeled a
kook or an ‘FOIA terrorist' is not how she had hoped to find fame."
This also did not belong in the article, because I made also clear to
Smith that I don't listen nor consider the judgments of primitive,
lawless people that made such outrageous false statements about me.
Both are malicious and insulting false statements, and if the Tribune
would be a professional paper, it never would have printed those.
However, as a sum, the Tribune article of May 11, 2003 is false in
sting and gist, and also the headline is false in sting and gist. It
contains numerous malicious falsehoods, libel and false citations, it
violates my privacy outrageously, it is misleading, conceals facts, it
is defamatory, harassing and degrading. The article is badly
researched. It is written unprofessionally and disjointed in a yellow
journalistic style, to attract more readers, the primitive kind.
127. The Tribune, Smith had promised me to write an article about how
the decisions on my cases were used by the agencies to deny other
people their rights, including the rights of the members of the free
press. The Tribune, all involved reporters and editors, the
defendants, apparently don't care for the rights of other people and
turned also out to be traitors towards their colleagues, other
reporters. On May 27, 2003, I received e-mail from reporter M. He
informed me that DOJ, DOD and TSA have cancelled all of his pending
FOIA requests. (See exhibit Y, his e-mail of May 27, 2003 to me.)
128. On May 29, 2003, M. provided more information. He wrote to me:
"The agencies cancelled all of my pending requests (about a dozen at
DOD, about a dozen at DOJ, and a half a dozen at TSA) after my boss
asked them to transfer the requests to me personally because I would
not be employed at American Lawyer Media after this month. When a
request is cancelled, I simply have posted it for other reporters to
use themselves. So instead of one request, they get 10. – I don't like
going to federal court because it is usually not friendly territory –
the judges are not knowledgeable about FOIA practices and procedures.
(See copy of this e-mail to me of May 29, 2003, attached as exhibit
Y1)
129. On June 2, 2003, M. mailed me two more e-mails. In one he
explained to me what kind of records he requested. He wrote: "In some
cases, I wanted to see what techniques are being used against the
requesters and how and why agencies were declining to do what they are
supposed to do. At some point, I want to write an article about how
FOIA Offices use improper tactics to avoid processing requests, and
how agencies undertake illegal methods of denying records." (That was
sort of the article that Smith promised me to write before he turned
against me for no reason.)
130. M. continued to write to me: "I believe that the agencies have
done such things in your case. – I asked for such paperwork in many
cases, for a variety of people and organizations. Often such material
leads to an interesting news story. – In other cases, I can see where
an agency has lied to a requester, or worded a request in such a way
that they are literally telling the truth, but not the whole truth,
and through their misleading wording, the person is likely to drop the
matter, even though the agency probably has responsive records. – Or
in some cases, agencies charged excessive fees and shouldn't have, but
the person dropped the request. In a few cases, I may have dropped the
person a note and let them know they were screwed over and how." (See
e-mail of M. of June 2, 2002, attached to my affidavit as exhibit Y2)
There you have it, written by that reporter who most likely is the
person that filed most FOIA requests in history and has lots of the
experiences with the agencies, a person that the Tribune failed to
contact on "agency ethics", despite that I told Smith about him.
131. In the other June 2, 2003 e-mail, M. informed me that he was
informed (by apparently a colleague) that OIP Co-Director Metcalfe
spoke about me and the Tribune article during the ASAP conference at
length (5-10 minutes). (See e-mail from M. of June 2, 2003, attached
as exhibit Y4.) The Tribune, Smith certainly must have done Metcalfe a
huge favor with that article. My suspicion is that Smith tries to
advance his personal career on my costs in Washington by writing that
unbelievable one-sided article that covers up the outrageous
wrongdoing by federal employees and corrupt co-conspiring courts.
132. Otherwise, Counsel O'Brien attached a list of my legal cases as
his exhibit A. The list is disjointed and the cases are not listed in
any sequence. The "overview" that counsel provided doesn't reflect the
truth about my cases. (Just as one example, he wrongfully claimed
that I sued the Church of Scientology for damages, which I never did.
I just tried to compel them to inform me about the whereabouts of Mark
Rathbun.) But this is definitely not the only falsehood in O'Brien's
list. As my other cases don't have anything in merits to do with this
case (this case is about the deception, fraud, breach of
agreement/contract, violation of privacy, the malicious article, false
reports, defamation, libel, the theft of hundreds of photos, etc.), I
don't go in details to explain each of my other cases to the court,
but if the court wants to know, it should read rather the original
court rulings, and should ask me directly, instead believing in
O'Brien's list.
Under penalty of perjury, I declare the above as true and correct to
the best of my knowledge and belief.

Dated this: August 8, 2003
by Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz

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"Citizen_Cain" <noema...@probablynotmebutmystalker.invalid> wrote in message news:<Quefd.1874$xk5...@fe39.usenetserver.com>...

> "Dicktop_Stud" <dickto...@mindless.com> wrote in message
> news:12085197.04102...@posting.google.com...
> > "Citizen_Cain" <noema...@probablynotmebutmystalker.invalid> wrote in
> message news:<bq2fd.822$jB3...@fe61.usenetserver.com>...
> >
> > > "Dicktop_Stud" <dickto...@mindless.com> wrote in message
> > > news:12085197.04102...@posting.google.com...
>
> > > > I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> > > > Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> > > > clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
> > > > seriously mentally ill.
> > >
> > > Waiiiiiiit a second.
> > >
> > > Salt Lake City actually has a department that does that? Seriously?
> You're
> > > kidding me, right?

> > >
> > > I might have a case for them to investigate...a certain sociopath
> stalker of
> > > mine now back in their jurisdiction. Who did you speak with? Any
> > > particular officer or contact that you can divulge?
> >
> > Call Lt. Chris Burbank at (801) 799-3801 and reference the Crisis
> > Intervention Team (CIT).
>
>
> Hmmm...so what exactly is it that they do? I'd hate to waste their time
> with this idiot up there in Utah, but I'm guessing they already know who he
> is anyway...

Criminal stalker Garry Scarff picked that police officer's name and
the team from the SLPD website. He tries to position with himself with
the police that they don't come after him and arrest him, he is that
desperate! (And criminal.)

Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz

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Rev. Desertphile de Rothschild <deser...@cchr.ws> wrote in message news:<417d...@news2.lightlink.com>...

Don't worry about me, psycho-Dave Rice. I can stand very well on my
own and don't need somebody to speak up for me. I do my own contacts.

Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz

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dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message news:<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>...

Why don't you post finally the letters that you received from the
SLCPD? Because you made it all up, lying criminal creep and stalker.


> >
> > Neither do I. He's simply switched from telling "Celebrity stories" to
> > tell "police stories". I suspect he got in legal trouble with one of the
> > celebrities he was telling stories about.
>
> As always, NaziBoy suspects wrong...but then being wrong is your
> legacy, isn't it?
>
> Note also that he failed a few months ago when he claimed he had
> spoken with a guy from that internet store.
>
> Hand it to you, NaziBoy to twist and turn anything & everything you
> despise. Your mentor Adolf would have been proud.

As if you would have no Nazi case officer, Garry Scarff!

Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz

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> dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message news:<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>...
>
> Who would believe Gary Scarff?
>
>
> Faxhor

Nobody who googles his name, Faxhor. I wonder how often he was already
arrested for felonies. His activities in participating in that Greek
kidnapping comes to my mind. It involved sexual abuse. I think Garry
Scarff did not just watch the crime, but he also was involved in the
sex crime including to the involment kidnapping, (deprogramming) to
which he admitted.

Barbara Schwarz

Citizen_Cain

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"Barbara Schwarz" <Stilllov...@myway.com> wrote in message
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> "Citizen_Cain" <noema...@probablynotmebutmystalker.invalid> wrote in
message news:<6wefd.1876$xk5...@fe39.usenetserver.com>...
> > "Leader Desslok" <des...@gamilon.ga> wrote in message
> > news:417d5f37...@News.Individual.NET...
> > > You should just remove that page.
> > > You are just fueling his trolling. Take it down and I bet he goes
> > > away.
> >
> >
> > John *can't* take it down. I am his every being. He thinks of me every
> > day. It would almost be flattering, if he weren't such a flaming
douchebag
> > loser.
>
> That John sounds exactly like Garry Scarff (Dicktop_Stud) and Curt
> West. They also think of my every day and I am their every being! But
> I bet that "my" stalkers are even worse that yours.


John's not so much of a "stalker" of mine as he is a "mini-stalker." The
worst he's ever done offline was when he made a drunken phone call to my
parents' house and cursed out my father over the phone threatening him with
legal action if he didn't take me offline. He does, however, blame me for
most of his problems, and whenever there's an anonymous poster -- well, in
John's eyes, it's probably me. That much in and of itself is pretty telling
about what is left of the shattered remains of his psychee.

As for the other idiot, the one in Salt Lake City, now HE can legit be
called a stalker. The things he's done offline -- and online -- are far too
numerous to list in a single posting, but let's just say that if the
original poster of this thread is legitimate and not talking shit about how
Salt Lake City P.D. has a list of people they consider "unstable" in their
area, that this particular idiot is more than likely on their list. In fact
I'm sure he's on their list as he admitting having a recent run-in with the
sheriff up there in SLC just a few weeks ago.

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Citizen_Cain

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"John Henry" <j...@inNOSPAMsurgent.orgy> wrote in message
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> Stilllov...@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in
> news:bf456302.04102...@posting.google.com:

>
> >
> > That John sounds exactly like Garry Scarff (Dicktop_Stud) and Curt
> > West. They also think of my every day and I am their every being! But
> > I bet that "my" stalkers are even worse that yours.
>
> I've been trying to not think about Dink for almost a decade.


Sure you have. That's why whenever there's an anonymous poster or someone
posting something negative about you that you can't I.D., it's me, right?
That's why eight out of every ten comments you make mention me in RSPW,
right?

Face it, Stumpy -- you're a loser.


> It's amazing
> how difficult that can be when he follows up every poast I write.

Don't you mean every "post?"

>
> Then again, why am I wasting my time explaining this to a woman who thinks
> she is the mysterly lovechild of franklin roosevelt born in a sooper
sekrit
> city underneat Great Salt Lake?


Because you're an idiot who thinks he is the mystery love child of Kurt
Vonnegut and Sally Struthers?

RowdyRebel

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"John Henry" <j...@inNOSPAMsurgent.orgy> wrote in message
news:Xns958EE095350C3jo...@216.168.3.44...
> Stilllov...@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in
> news:bf456302.04102...@posting.google.com:
>
>>
>> That John sounds exactly like Garry Scarff (Dicktop_Stud) and Curt
>> West. They also think of my every day and I am their every being! But
>> I bet that "my" stalkers are even worse that yours.
>
> I've been trying to not think about Dink for almost a decade. It's
> amazing
> how difficult that can be when he follows up every poast I write.
>
> Then again, why am I wasting my time explaining this to a woman who thinks
> she is the mysterly lovechild of franklin roosevelt born in a sooper
> sekrit
> city underneat Great Salt Lake?
>
>
> --

So I have to ask: Are Dink and Chad the same person, or are they just 2
different trolls?


RolandRB

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dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message news:<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>...
> I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
> seriously mentally ill. I was informed that their officers are trained
> in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
> schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
> homeless population. Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
> violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases in thier
> jurisdiction; where they live, known incidents of derisive behavior,
> what they have been treated for and where, in the event a crisis
> situation develops which has the potential for harming innocent
> victims.
>
> BARBARA SCHWARZ IS IN THE SALT LAKE CITY POLICE DATABASE. According to
> the officer I spoke with, Ms. Schwarz is well-known to many of its
> officers, and have been on the receiving end of numerous, frivilous
> complaints of police abuse and violations of her rights.
>
> Barbara Schwarz has been contact on innumerous occasions by mental
> health advocates, social workers, and community workers who have
> offered her mental health assistance and counseling -all which she
> turned down. Ms. Schwarz believes she stands alone in being right, and
> everyone else is wrong.
>
> The officer informed me that because Barbara Schwarz is an adult and
> has not committed any crimes (that they are aware of) deminstrative of
> her mental illness, they are helpless in directing her to the
> resources that can help her; however, they, officials in the Salt Lake
> County Library system, and the University of Utah are all aware of Ms.
> Schwarz and her activities on the Internet and keep her under casual
> surveillance to insure that her known anger, hostility, and paranoid
> delusions doesn't translate into violent activity.
>
> I was encouraged NOT TO ENGAGE Barbara Schwarz - any attempts to
> communicate with her in a rational, objective manner is useless. Her
> aggressiveness and hostility toward others is her way of keeping the
> focus off her own issues, providing her a distration from assuming any
> responsibility for the problems she has created for herself.

This is why I have urged people to never respond to her posts. In my
case I have long since stopped even reading her posts. If she did not
get any response from any newsgroup and felt that nobody was reading
her posts then instead of being raised to boiling point where, her
anger might spill over into violence, then instead she might seek the
help she so desperately needs. Please do this poor unfortunate a
favour by allowing her to seek the help she needs.

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Barbara Schwarz

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> dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message

> This is why I have urged people to never respond to her posts.

Do as I say but not as I do, that is your motto, RolandRB.

In my
> case I have long since stopped even reading her posts. If she did not
> get any response from any newsgroup and felt that nobody was reading
> her posts then instead of being raised to boiling point where, her
> anger might spill over into violence, then instead she might seek the
> help she so desperately needs. Please do this poor unfortunate a
> favour by allowing her to seek the help she needs.

Everybody knows that I don't have your character and your mental
instabilities. You must be really drunk or on drugs believing Scarff's
potings. You posted that you want to kill people. Don't try to give me
your character, you sick bum.

I need help, indeed, but only from police to get your stalkers off my
back.

Barbara Schwarz

copied from the www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
ROLAND RASHLEIGH-BERRY
British citizen Roland Rashleigh-Berry is among the most virulent
extremists in the anti-religious movement. In his postings to internet
newsgroups he writes with enthusiasm about the killing of religious
people and believes that all religions should be targeted for
eradication.

October 30, 1998
"All religion is a scam."

May 7, 2001
"We need to rid the world of superstition and especially the
mind-numbing disease called religion."

September 12, 2001
"In terms of it's best to slaaughter [sic] all religious adherents -
yes - I agree."

December 13, 2001
"I HATE religions. I invite YOU to HATE THEM TOO. Find out the harm
they have done in the world. Christianity in the past. Islam now. Read
all about it and maybe YOU TOO will HATE THEM like I do."

Rashleigh-Berry has a history of advocating violence against religious
groups. In July, 1997, he discussed on an internet newsgroup the use
of letter bombs to blow up Churches of Scientology. In 1998 he
suggested a new religion called "Kill the Klams" (meaning Scientology
parishioners). He stated: "It is perfectly okay to go up to a
Scientologist and kill them."

He also wrote in July 1997: "There are plenty of nutters who know how
to make letter bombs. The addresses of the [derogatory name for
Scientology churches] are on the internet. I reckon it will only be a
matter of days before the letter bombs end up in the [derogatory name
for Scientology churches] in-trays. > Watch the news."

Rashleigh-Berry routinely participates in hate marches against
Scientology Churches and their parishioners. He then boasts about his
activities over the Internet to other extremists, encouraging them to
commit similar acts.

Christianity is a long-time target of Rashleigh-Berry's hatred:

January 8, 2000
"I went through a very bad time with Christianity trying to make sense
of it when I was young. I prayed a lot but it didn't get me anywhere."


ROLAND RASHLEIGH-BERRY (continued)
September 16, 2001
"Christianity is seen to be a nonsense religion."

September 19, 2001
"All religions are false religions and so all priests are liars and
conmen. And all the money the churches have has been conned out of the
public and should be returned to the public. The priests and the
administrators of the churches should be put on trial for their
criminal acts."

The terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, were seen by many
anti-religious extremists as a prime opportunity to spread fear and
divisiveness in America, using the Internet as their platform. While
world leaders are stressing that these acts of terrorism were
perpetrated by a group of extremists who have violated the most basic
precepts of the religion they claim to represent, Rashleigh-Berry,
along with others of his ilk, wasted no time in propagating his own
anti-religious messages, attempting to stir up more hatred, death, and
destruction.

September 17, 2001
"...they [the United States] should do to the Muslims in America now
what they wrongly did to the Japanese in their own country after the
attack on Pearl Harbor..."

September 18, 2001
"Surely the US won't do anything until this religious country has gone
through all the motions of getting its religiou [sic] leaders to meet
together and...* K A B O O M * Bye bye ragheads."

ROLAND RASHLEIGH-BERRY (continued)
At the same time, Rashleigh-Berry attacks other faiths, revealing an
agenda to play one religion off against another:

September 14, 2001
"I'll cross post this to the islamic newsgroup so they can see what a
vile, cruel, vicious and brutal religion Christianity is compared to
their own. If you thought Islam was evil, then read what is below and
what is quoted from the Bible. Some "God of Love"."

12 April 2003
"So when we die we have got to face and be inspected or examined by
Christ/Buddha/Krishna or whaterver [sic]. Just who the fuck are they
to judge us? So, OK, they might have created the whole universe but
who gave them the authority to bring us into Beingness and to subject
us to testing? Is it something we agreed? I wrack my little brain but
can find nothing. So some faggot Son of God Jesus creeping sandal
wearer is the big boss, is he, for getting his incompetent worthless
ass nailed to a pice [sic] of 4x2? And because we want a bit of
satisfaction in life it is all wrong because this loony cunt decided
it was better to have himself nailed on to a piece of wood? And this
is supposed to be a good example to us all? Well, as far as I am
concerned, this Christ/Krishna/Buddha cunt can go fuck themselves
[sic]."


ROLAND RASHLEIGH-BERRY (continued)
Rashleigh-Berry's intent in cross-posting this hate-propaganda is made
clear in a message addressed to the Ku Klux Klan:

September 14, 2001
"The only cure is to eradicate Islam from the face of your country -
before they eradicate your friends and family members. K K K - your
hour is now. Your country needs you even though they are too stupid to
ask for your help. Only YOU can save your country. Only YOU can save
the white people of the world - The Christian peace-loving folk. You
are the only future the US can have. Your time is NOW!!"

Newsgroup readers are advised that such hate propaganda is a
calculated attempt to turn Americans of faith against each other in an
effort to destroy all religion.

Anyone who succumbs to these lies will only succeed in harming their
country and themselves.

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Citizen_Cain

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Oct 27, 2004, 5:30:36 PM10/27/04
to

"RowdyRebel" <TheReb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OTDfd.321300$D%.212583@attbi_s51...

Uh, we're not the same person. Chad's a sociopath with the emotional
maturity of a badger.

Still_lying_about_Marty

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Oct 27, 2004, 6:49:47 PM10/27/04
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Stilllov...@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message news:<bf456302.04102...@posting.google.com>...

> rolan...@hotmail.com (RolandRB) wrote in message news:<52970945.04102...@posting.google.com>...

> > dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message
>
> > This is why I have urged people to never respond to her posts.
> Do as I say but not as I do, that is your motto, RolandRB.
>
> In my
> > case I have long since stopped even reading her posts. If she did not
> > get any response from any newsgroup and felt that nobody was reading
> > her posts then instead of being raised to boiling point where, her
> > anger might spill over into violence, then instead she might seek the
> > help she so desperately needs. Please do this poor unfortunate a
> > favour by allowing her to seek the help she needs.
>
> Everybody knows that I don't have your character and your mental
> instabilities. You must be really drunk or on drugs believing Scarff's
> potings. You posted that you want to kill people. Don't try to give me
> your character, you sick bum.
>
> I need help, indeed, but only from police to get your stalkers off my
> back.

LOL. The police ignore you because they know you are a pathetic liar and loser.

Barbara Schwarz

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Oct 28, 2004, 1:06:33 PM10/28/04
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Barbara...@myway.com (Still_lying_about_Marty) wrote in message news:<19b9f902.04102...@posting.google.com>...

Post the letter that the police allegedly sent to you, Garry Scarff, you liar!

Barbara Schwarz

Dave Bird

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Nov 3, 2004, 5:57:59 PM11/3/04
to
In article<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>,

More to the point, they cannot put her in any sort of involuntary
mental health detention. Unfortunately, perhaps... freedom means
putting up with various things you'd rather not, where you have no
rightful grounds to intervene and stop it.

>however, they, officials in the Salt Lake
>County Library system, and the University of Utah are all aware of Ms.
>Schwarz and her activities on the Internet and keep her under casual
>surveillance to insure that her known anger, hostility, and paranoid
>delusions doesn't translate into violent activity.
>I was encouraged NOT TO ENGAGE Barbara Schwarz - any attempts to
>communicate with her in a rational, objective manner is useless. Her
>aggressiveness and hostility toward others is her way of keeping the
>focus off her own issues, providing her a distration from assuming any
>responsibility for the problems she has created for herself.

--
FUCK THE SKULL OF HUBBARD, AND BUGGER THE DWARF HE RODE IN ON!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8====3 (O 0) GROETEN --- PRINTZ XEMU EXTRAWL no real OT has
|n| (COMMANDER, FIFTH INVADER FORCE) ever existed
.................................................................
A society without a religion is like a maniac without a chainsaw.

Dave Bird

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Nov 3, 2004, 6:00:02 PM11/3/04
to
In article<bf456302.04102...@posting.google.com>, Barbara

Schwarz <Stilllov...@myway.com> writes:
>"Citizen_Cain" <noema...@probablynotmebutmystalker.invalid> wrote in message
>news:<6wefd.1876$xk5...@fe39.usenetserver.com>...
>> "Leader Desslok" <des...@gamilon.ga> wrote in message
>> news:417d5f37...@News.Individual.NET...
>> > You should just remove that page.
>> > You are just fueling his trolling. Take it down and I bet he goes
>> > away.
>>
>>
>> John *can't* take it down. I am his every being. He thinks of me every
>> day. It would almost be flattering, if he weren't such a flaming douchebag
>> loser.
>
>That John sounds exactly like Garry Scarff (Dicktop_Stud) and Curt
>West.

It is part of your sickness that you have no real idea what other
people are thinking or feeling, and sometimes can't even tell them
apart.

Dave Bird

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Nov 3, 2004, 6:07:24 PM11/3/04
to
In article<2u4pt7F...@uni-berlin.de>, Arkady writes:

>Dicktop_Stud wrote:
>
>| I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
>| Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
>| clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being
>| seriously mentally ill. I was informed that their officers are trained
>| in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
>| schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
>| homeless population. Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
>| violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases in thier
>| jurisdiction; where they live, known incidents of derisive behavior,
>| what they have been treated for and where, in the event a crisis
>| situation develops which has the potential for harming innocent
>| victims.
>|
>
>Meh. Maybe it's just me, but I really don't like derogatory terms
>such as "nutcase" being applied to people who are mentally ill; even
>when it's being applied to someone as objectionable and unpleasant
>as BS. It's bad enough being mentally ill without having people
>refer to you in a derogatory manner. No wonder it's so difficult to

>tackle the social stigma against mental illness.

Unfortunately Barbara Shwatz exists and drops great steaming piles
of schwatz all over the newsgroup like an elephant on cascara.
There are no real grounds to make her take her pills, so the crap
we take from her is part of the price of freedom. But I get fed up
with nutcases endlessly blethering on: they can't be told sense,
and what's more they just go on insisting forever that they are
right and the rest of the world is wrong. If they endlessly shove
their lunacy in my face and there is no grounds to stop them, then
forgive me for relieving the tension by occasionally taking the piss.

Barbara Schwarz

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Nov 4, 2004, 2:59:44 PM11/4/04
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Dave Bird <dave.xemu...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<nhhL9RBs...@xemu.demon.co.uk>...


Salt Lake Police, this posting was made by lewd and dangerous Dave Bird.
You would arrest him if he ever would show up in Salt Lake City.

http://religousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/birdd1.html

Garry Scarff is basically the same kind of bum.

Barbara Schwarz

Patrick Lee Humphrey

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Nov 4, 2004, 11:04:58 PM11/4/04
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Stilllov...@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) writes:

I seriously doubt the SLCPD will do anything but laugh at the latest antics of
the crazy bag lady annoying the SLC public library system. (You're assuming
they read this newsgroup. I doubt they have that high an opinion of you.)

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)

Still_lying_about_Marty

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Nov 5, 2004, 11:12:10 AM11/5/04
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Stilllov...@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message news:<bf456302.04110...@posting.google.com>...

> Garry Scarff is basically the same kind of bum.

LOL. The Salt Lake City Police would never listen to you, dumb bitch.
You are very well known to them as a mentally ill monkey & blowhard
with nothing to say.

Barbara Schwarz

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Nov 5, 2004, 4:05:43 PM11/5/04
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Patrick Lee Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote in message news:<szkpt2t...@fnord.io.com>...

Why are my enemies all so stupid like you, Humphrey? The police can't
afford to act upon bias. They have to act upon the law and any
violation of the law.

Barbara Schwarz

Patrick Lee Humphrey

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Nov 5, 2004, 9:40:47 PM11/5/04
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Stilllov...@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) writes:

...and they're obviously far more aware of the law than *you* are, Babbles --
which is why they routinely File 13 your demands.

How are your "lawsuits" progressing? You're 0 for *how* many?

Rev. Desertphile de Rothschild

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Nov 6, 2004, 1:41:11 PM11/6/04
to
On 04 Nov 2004 22:04:58 -0600, Patrick Lee Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
wrote:

>Stilllov...@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) writes:

>> Salt Lake Police, this posting was made by lewd and
>> dangerous Dave Bird. You would arrest him if he ever
>> would show up in Salt Lake City.

"Lewd and dangerous?" LOL! Let me write that down....

> I seriously doubt the SLCPD will do anything but laugh
> at the latest antics of the crazy bag lady annoying the
> SLC public library system. (You're assuming they read
> this newsgroup. I doubt they have that high an opinion
> of you.)

Maybe they will try to help her.


---
http://lastliberal.org
Voting Republican makes baby Jesus cry!

Patrick Lee Humphrey

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Nov 6, 2004, 4:10:46 PM11/6/04
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>>Stilllov...@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) writes:

I'd hope so -- and with any luck, they won't have been annoyed enough by her
antics to do anything else.

Curt West

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Nov 12, 2004, 4:18:40 PM11/12/04
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"Faxhor" <fax...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c901bee5.04111...@posting.google.com...
> "Curt West" <curt...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:<Ecvfd.466$Ky3...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>...
>> Who gives a damn what a homeless, insane cunt like you thinks?
>
> Let me guess, Curt. Your mind is only 16.

http://www.totalbs.org/


>
>
> Faxhor


Lady Chatterly

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Nov 12, 2004, 5:02:17 PM11/12/04
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In article <bf456302.04111...@posting.google.com> Stilllov...@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote:
>
>captain...@hotmail.com (The Kearsley Curse) wrote in message news:<8bb35f53.0411...@posting.google.com>...
>> dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message news:<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>...

>>
>> > I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
>> > Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
>> > clinically diagnosed nutcases
>>
>> Is that what is says on their signage? "Welcome to the Salt Lake City
>> Police Crisis Intervention Team Unit Information Center - We deal with
>> nutcases"
>Lol.

>>
>> > or have demonstrated signs of being
>> > seriously mentally ill. I was informed that their officers are trained
>> > in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
>> > schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
>> > homeless population. Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
>> > violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases
>>
>> Gee...I'd like to see *that* computer database file of "known
>> nutcases"...
>
>You will find only Garry Scarff's name in that file. :)

>>
>> > in thier
>> > jurisdiction; where they live, known incidents of derisive behavior,
>> > what they have been treated for and where, in the event a crisis
>> > situation develops which has the potential for harming innocent
>> > victims.
>> >
>> > BARBARA SCHWARZ IS IN THE SALT LAKE CITY POLICE DATABASE. According to
>> > the officer I spoke with, Ms. Schwarz is well-known to many of its
>> > officers, and have been on the receiving end of numerous, frivilous
>> > complaints of police abuse and violations of her rights.
>> >
>> > Barbara Schwarz has been contact on innumerous occasions by mental
>> > health advocates, social workers, and community workers who have
>> > offered her mental health assistance and counseling -all which she
>> > turned down. Ms. Schwarz believes she stands alone in being right, and
>> > everyone else is wrong.
>> >
>> > The officer informed me that because Barbara Schwarz is an adult and
>> > has not committed any crimes (that they are aware of) deminstrative of
>> > her mental illness, they are helpless in directing her to the
>> > resources that can help her; however, they, officials in the Salt Lake

>> > County Library system, and the University of Utah are all aware of Ms.
>> > Schwarz and her activities on the Internet and keep her under casual
>> > surveillance to insure that her known anger, hostility, and paranoid
>> > delusions doesn't translate into violent activity.
>> >
>> > I was encouraged NOT TO ENGAGE Barbara Schwarz - any attempts to
>> > communicate with her in a rational, objective manner is useless.
>>
>> So, instead you decide to post long strings of bull shit and libel,
>> right?

I do find you cowardly and vile.

>Yep, that is Garry Scarff. One slimy character.


>>
>> > Her
>> > aggressiveness and hostility toward others is her way of keeping the
>> > focus off her own issues, providing her a distration from assuming any
>> > responsibility for the problems she has created for herself.
>>

>> Thank you Sigmund Freud...
>>
>> Next!

You are welcome. Sigmund freud.

>Garry Scarff (Dicktop) never posted that alleged letter, but his
>intoxicated friends never notice, KC.

Why do you bring up the subject of friends?

--
Lady Chatterly

"Lady C is a faggot? Is that why you are so enthralled with her? Gonna
stalk her?" -- Kali

The Kearsley Curse

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Nov 12, 2004, 1:35:37 AM11/12/04
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dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message news:<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>...

> I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> clinically diagnosed nutcases

Is that what is says on their signage? "Welcome to the Salt Lake City
Police Crisis Intervention Team Unit Information Center - We deal with
nutcases"

> or have demonstrated signs of being


> seriously mentally ill. I was informed that their officers are trained
> in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
> schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
> homeless population. Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
> violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases

Gee...I'd like to see *that* computer database file of "known
nutcases"...

> in thier

> Her

Still_lying_about_Marty

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Nov 12, 2004, 5:07:20 PM11/12/04
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captain...@hotmail.com (The Kearsley Curse) wrote in message news:<8bb35f53.0411...@posting.google.com>...

> dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message news:<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>...

> Thank you Sigmund Freud... Next!

Alright! Who let the chimpanzee out of his cage?

Faxhor

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Nov 13, 2004, 6:51:35 PM11/13/04
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"Curt West" <curt...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<QM9ld.21454$dM3....@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...

> Who gives a damn what a homeless, insane cunt like you thinks?

"Faxhor" <fax...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c901bee5.04111...@posting.google.com...


> Let me guess, Curt. Your mind is only 16.

"Curt West" <curt...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:<Ecvfd.466$Ky3...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>...
> http://www.totalbs.org/

Curtis, That site is boring.


Faxhor

================================================================

CURT WEST'S HERO IS A NAZI-FRIENDLY COPYRIGHT CRIMINAL WHO IS
SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO AN UNKNOWN TEENAGER
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c901bee5.0411031313.4eea5fc1%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

================================================================

CURT WEST: INCOMPETENT PETITIONOR
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c901bee5.0408300322.63f592fe%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

================================================================

CURT WEST, THE F-WORD "CHRISTIAN"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=bf456302.0411011409.367a9826%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

================================================================

Curt West

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Nov 14, 2004, 6:07:42 AM11/14/04
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"Faxhor" <fax...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c901bee5.0411...@posting.google.com...


>> http://www.totalbs.org/
>
> Curtis, That site is boring.
>
>
> Faxhor


So are you.


GarryS

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Nov 14, 2004, 9:27:50 AM11/14/04
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fax...@hotmail.com (Faxhor) wrote in message news:<c901bee5.0411...@posting.google.com>...

> "Curt West" <curt...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<QM9ld.21454$dM3....@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...
> > Who gives a damn what a homeless, insane cunt like you thinks?
>
> "Faxhor" <fax...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c901bee5.04111...@posting.google.com...
> > Let me guess, Curt. Your mind is only 16.
>
> "Curt West" <curt...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:<Ecvfd.466$Ky3...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>...
> > http://www.totalbs.org/
>
> Curtis, That site is boring.
>
>
> Faxhor

Faxhor, you're as noteworthy as a bad case of diarrhea.

Barbara Schwarz

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Nov 15, 2004, 2:41:07 PM11/15/04
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fax...@hotmail.com (Faxhor) wrote in message news:<c901bee5.0411...@posting.google.com>...
> "Curt West" <curt...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<QM9ld.21454$dM3....@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...
> > Who gives a damn what a homeless, insane cunt like you thinks?
>
> "Faxhor" <fax...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c901bee5.04111...@posting.google.com...
> > Let me guess, Curt. Your mind is only 16.
>
> "Curt West" <curt...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:<Ecvfd.466$Ky3...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>...
> > http://www.totalbs.org/
>
> Curtis, That site is boring.

He is a boring guy, what do you expect. :) If they would have at least
put some spice in it, as my "Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news"
series.

People will fall asleep when reading the first governmental page. And
it is only me who understand the background of those decisions anyway.
(And that is why I claim that the U.S. government is secretly
infiltrated by non-American forces.)

Barbara Schwarz

Big Questions

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Nov 15, 2004, 7:33:03 PM11/15/04
to
dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud) wrote in message news:<12085197.04102...@posting.google.com>...
> I spoke with an officer of Salt Lake City Police's Crisis Intervention
> Team (CIT) which deals specifically with individuals who are
> clinically diagnosed nutcases or have demonstrated signs of being

> seriously mentally ill. I was informed that their officers are trained
> in identifying characteristics of various mental disorders, including
> schizophrenia which is a prominent disorder among Salt Lake City's
> homeless population. Because schizophrenics, in some cases, act out
> violently, the SLC Police keeps a database of known nutcases in thier

> jurisdiction; where they live, known incidents of derisive behavior,
> what they have been treated for and where, in the event a crisis
> situation develops which has the potential for harming innocent
> victims.
>
> BARBARA SCHWARZ IS IN THE SALT LAKE CITY POLICE DATABASE. According to
> the officer I spoke with, Ms. Schwarz is well-known to many of its
> officers, and have been on the receiving end of numerous, frivilous
> complaints of police abuse and violations of her rights.
>
> Barbara Schwarz has been contact on innumerous occasions by mental
> health advocates, social workers, and community workers who have
> offered her mental health assistance and counseling -all which she
> turned down. Ms. Schwarz believes she stands alone in being right, and
> everyone else is wrong.
>
> The officer informed me that because Barbara Schwarz is an adult and
> has not committed any crimes (that they are aware of) deminstrative of
> her mental illness, they are helpless in directing her to the
> resources that can help her; however, they, officials in the Salt Lake
> County Library system, and the University of Utah are all aware of Ms.
> Schwarz and her activities on the Internet and keep her under casual
> surveillance to insure that her known anger, hostility, and paranoid
> delusions doesn't translate into violent activity.
>
> I was encouraged NOT TO ENGAGE Barbara Schwarz - any attempts to
> communicate with her in a rational, objective manner is useless. Her

> aggressiveness and hostility toward others is her way of keeping the
> focus off her own issues, providing her a distration from assuming any
> responsibility for the problems she has created for herself.

Hi Dick. Next time you run into this officer can you ask if I am on
the list too? Thanks.

Barbara Schwarz

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Nov 16, 2004, 11:51:15 AM11/16/04
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bigquest...@yahoo.com (Big Questions) wrote in message news:<86565123.04111...@posting.google.com>...

His name is Garry Scarff, and he is a criminal who is currently
investigated by the LAPD.

Releax. Nobody is on that SLCPD nut lists but Scarff himself.

Barbara Schwarz

Lady Chatterly

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Nov 16, 2004, 12:04:33 PM11/16/04
to
In article <bf456302.04111...@posting.google.com> Stilllov...@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote:
>

Ner lbh nfxvat jub pheeragyl vairfgvtngrq ol gur yncq vf?

>Releax. Nobody is on that SLCPD nut lists but Scarff himself.

Everyone is kneaded out of the same dough but not baked in the same
oven.

--
Lady Chatterly

"But Faxhor, you err in two major respects, To ask of her age, is
ill-mannered at best, For a gentleman waits for the lady to tell,
(Most unlikely until, he's well under her spell). But when you reply
to a program designed, Giving random responses, to annoy and to
blind, Neither human nor alien, that cares not a jot, It's apparent
to me, Lady C is a 'bot'!" -- Andrew Robertson

Criminal Garry Scarff wants to shoot me

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Nov 16, 2004, 9:50:35 PM11/16/04
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Barbara...@myway.com (Still_lying_about_Marty) wrote in message news:<19b9f902.04111...@posting.google.com>...

Garry Scarff is the escaped chimpanzee.

Foregoing posting is not by Barbara Schwarz but a forgery by criminal
Garry Scarff.

There are some others who figured something about lying Garry Scarff
out. He apparently defrauded money from a university by accusing
somebody wrongfully of having assaulted him.
He also made up that he is a Jew to get the university money by
playing the race card. Scarff was unable to provide any evidence that
he is Jewish. That is father died during the Jonestown tragedy was
also a fabrication, so is just about anything that this man says and
posts.
I wonder who employes Garry Scarff now. Who would be so dumb and hire
a lawless man like that?

In year 2001, reporter Scott B. Wong of the Daily Bruin Staff wrote
amongst others things that Scarff brought a case of battery and
wrongful determination against his university manager, Salwa Ayoub,
and that he struck him in the face with a collections file Sept. 20.
But the the UC Board of Regents maintains that Scarff's allegations
are incredible. "We don't agree that the claim is valid and that the
description of the facts are accurate," said Christopher Patti,
university counsel for the UC Regents.

I agree. The way I know Scarff, he just fabricated that to relatiate
and destort. The L.A. City attorney rejected Scarff case. Suspicious
is also that Scarff brought not immediately charges against the
university, but nine days later, He apparently needed time to figure
out how to frame his manger and the university by making those charges
up and by also wrongfully that he would be a Jew. He has a criminal
mind.


GARRY SCARFF IN HIS OWN DANGEROUS WORDS:
"Actually, she (Barbara Schwarz) needs a baseball bat right in the
kisser.
Garry Scarff to Barbara Schwarz: "I'd like to shoot one...you!"
Garry Scarff to Barbara Schwarz: "I want you to shovel your decrepit,
old smelly body to the I-15 and
run in front of a truck during rush hour traffic."
Garry Scarff to Barbara Schwarz:"You should walk in front of a
speeding train so we have something to celebrate."
Garry Scarff trying to find support by others in his plan to murder
me: "Curious...if I were to go to Salt Lake City and dump a bucket of
water on her head, would The Schwartz melt?"
Garry Scarff to Barbara Schwarz: "I want you to die, too, you mentally
retarded cunt, but you just won't listen."

Garry Scarff about Barbara Schwarz: "This lunatic should kill run in
front of a speeding bus, so we all can have something to laugh at and
celebrate."


"Better yet, Bob, why don't you fetch an armload of really heavy books
and walk over to Barbara (Schwarz) when she's at a computer and
whoops....accidentially trip and drop the books on her head...hell..."
"You're very lucky there's 2000 miles between us, Beebe. You'd either
be dead or in ICU."
Garry Scarff: "Yup! I AM SATAN, HEAR ME ROAR!"
Garry Scarff: "...my college grades dropped and I was suspended for 6
months from college for receiving one credit out of the required 12
for the term."
Garry Scarff: "D.E. and others are correct if that I have not been a
Scientologist..."
Garry Scarff: "I was 'friend' with Scientology, yet going to cult
education forums with the Greeks and trashing Scientology."
Garry Scarff: "I...was even invited as special friend by Ann Greek to
accompany them to Canada for the purposes of kidnapping their
daughter...I accompanied the Greeks and another deprogrammer, Diane
Benscoter to Candada but the effort was unsuccessful."
Garry Scarff: "The sexual incident involving deprogrammer Bob
Brandybury did occur though Anne Greek begged me not to report it as a
crime."
Garry Scarff: "I rather lick you."
Garry Scarff:" Have a short life, Zanebutt".
Garry Scarff: "Don't make me send my henchman back over there to
bloody your nose."

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GARRY SCARFF, THE THIEF OF FUNDS:
Garry Scarff stole stole 70% of donations of the Positive Action
Center. Something tells me that he did not do that out of hunger but
because he has a criminal mind.

GARRY SCARFF, AND THE MISUSE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT:
The affidavit of lawyer Graham Berry of April 4, 2004 indicates that
Garry Scarff unlawfully used law enforcement computer network to
retrieve info about juvenile. My question, is there any crime that
this Scarff has not committed sofar? He should be locked up.

GARRY SCARFF, THE PERJURER:
There are numerous information on the net that Garry Scarff lied in
his deposition in the Fishman/Geertz case.
Saying the truth under oath means nothing to criminal Scarff.

MORE GARRY SCARFF PERJURY:
Garry Scarff recants the content of his declarations given to Michael
Rinder, Elliott Abelson and David Long during the July 4, 1997
weekend. (A court accepting an affidavit of notorious liar Scarff is
losing all credibility.)

GARRY SCARFF, COMFORTABLE WITH LYING TO OTHERS FOR A LIVING:
C. Brennan wrote: "You forgot to mention that Garry Scarff is the guy
that used to be paid by the Cult Awareness Network to lie to potential
money sources for CAN and tell them his poor daddy died in Jonestown
(he said it used to bring tears to people's eyes,and green out of
people's pocketbooks, I guess he was convincing). Only problem was his
father was alive and well and living in Florida. CAN toured him all
over the country telling that story for quite a while, I guess they
got some good mileage out of it. It seems that Gary's comfortable with
lying to others for a living, don't know who is paying him now."

GARRY SCARFF, THE VIOLENT MAN
Violent Garry Scarff about an missed opportunity to have him arrested:
"My heated emotions to one female counterpicketer gave away and I
grabbed her by the throat and flung her to the ground in full view of
a Scientologist with a rolling videocamera."

MORE ABOUT GARRY SCARFF, THE DEATH THREAT MAKER:
His apology was simply part of the usual Scarff cycle. Still "valid"
is also his promise to kill me. -- T. H.

...but I see he (Garry Scarff) has progressed to making death threats
against me in a desperate plea for my attention. Something about
shooting me in the head? Someone e-mailed it to me; I missed the
posted thread. -- M.H.

And yeah, I know you (Garry Scarff) are dangerous...I know you can
easily mock up being really insane and take me out with your insanity
defense all nicely in place. -- G.A.

I would suggest to those who know Garry in LA that you should be
careful...So my advice to everyone: never never never never tell Garry
Scarff anything.... Remember, that is what drives his sick mind - he
wants to be known, looked at and to be listened to. -- T.H.

You are a liar, Garry. We have met. -- W.

So, Garry Scarff was Jewish for a short time. He was also a Mormon in
the past, until he filed a lawsuit. Maybe he'll file a lawsuit against
that "Weho" church (which claims to be Christian) too, or has already.
-- T.H.

Garry Scarff is a know liar. -- L .F.
I believe that Scarff did not just know about the sexual abuse of the
kidnap victim but that he participated in the abuse. -- Barbara
Schwarz

Scarff worked for both sides and cried, when he was caught. -- T.H.

GARRY SCARFF, AND INSANITY THAT RUNS IN HIS FAMILY?
Garry's brother allegedly killed himself with a gun.
I just believe that Garry has nothing to do with that if he has an
fool proof alibi that he was not near his brother at that time.

ROLL OVER FATHER JOHN GEOGHAN, HERE COMES GARRY SCARFF:
I learned that the Catholic Church did not take godless gay Garry
Scarff, who wanted to become a catholic "priest". Knowing Scarff, the
only reason why he would have wanted to join is because of the
homosexual activities of that church. That is likely the only reason
he became member in WEHO, his gay pick up "church" place in which they
drug and rape according to WEHO ex-members.
I thought the Catholic Church hires just about any perverted creep.
Scarff is apparently so perverted that even that church does not want
him. If they would have, who knows how many little boys rightfully
would sue father Scarff.

GARRY SCARFF, THE SPY:
Scarff:" I lied to F. and feigned an emotional outburst complete with
tears, screaming... The ploy worked as F. apologized to me... I
availed myself to his aonfidential (sic) legal records and legal files
of his clients..."
GARRY SCARFF, and his questionable diet: "Agreed that the Mormon when
(sic) look like they belong on a dairy farm, but some of the young
missionaries are yummy!"

MORE COMPLAINTS BY OTHERS ABOUT GARRY SCARFF:
Graham has his own ass to cover since Scarff gave him reams of other
false statements about alleged murder plots and so on...Berry will
have serious problems trying to make Scarff's former statements under
oath old up. -- H.C.

Garry Scarff deliberately lied about his background while he was an
active member of CAN. He claimed his father and other family members
were killed in Jonestown -- when he actually didn't know anyone in
Jonestown or have any involvement with the People's Temple. He served
as CAN's poster boy for awhile, all based on his fabricated
experiences with Jim Jones. After CAN was embarrassed by Scarff's lies
and turned against him, Scarff then proceeded to claim he had
infiltrated CAN as a GO/OSA operative. Outside of Scarff's own
assertions, I've seen no indication that this is any more true than
his lies about his
Jonestown connections. Scarff told the Moonies that CAN was making
death threats to try to keep him quiet. Scarff told the Moonies that,
as a member of CAN, he had been involved in activities that included
theft and burglary against them.
This is the guy whose "sworn affidavits" many people use to "prove"
that the CoS is a criminal organization. We're taking Scarff's
unsubstantiated word for things like the drowning of Judge
Swearinger's dog Duke, Moxon's order to have Cynthia Kisser and her
mythical daughter killed, etc. Is it really wise for anyone to place
so much trust in Scarff's unsubstantiated accusations?
Now, thanks to Scarff himself, we learn that he didn't end his career
as a prevaricator when he lost his contact with CAN and various cults.
He attempted to scam the Roman Catholic Church out of a settlement for
what he himself admits was a bogus claim that he was sexually
harrassed by a Catholic bishop. -- D. R.

It is well known that Garry Scarff can't be trusted...Garry is not
worthy of our trust. -- H.C.R.

Garry Scarff has been caught in lies and deceipt time and time again.
I only wish I could post half of the stuff which clearly shows the
misery that Scarff brought to lots of people. -- J.B.
Garry Scarff is a psychopath, and a loony is not an adequate word to
describe him. Scarff is a danger not only to himself, but to anyone
who trust him too... -- T.H.

For your information, when Garry (Scarff) was with CAN he was telling
everyone that his family had died in Jonestown and was making these
statements to the media. Come to find out, it was not true in the
slightest. If the alleged murder plots were true why didn't he go to
the police? -- H.C.

Perhaps you forget about the numerous little con-games he's been
caught playing here? I continue to spit in his (Scarff's) direction.
-- Z.T.

Garry Scarff is not a Scientology victim, he is a mentally ill guy...
-- T.H.

Is this guy (Garry Scarff) for real or does he just need to lay off
the hemp? Sounds like he's suffering from the Reality Inversion as
Robert Vaughn Young. -- T.J.

He (Scarff) has admitted to the things he has done and said, and he
has admitted being unstable. --J.B.

Have you ever seen Garry Scarff apologize for his deprogramming
activities here, or anything else for that matter? -- D. R.

Garry's mental problem is that he cannot accept people contradicting
him. -- T. H.

Scarff has already underminded any use he has in litigation for either
side because he lied so much. -- H.C.

And now you've become a forger as well. Go ahead Garry, and forge hate
messages. Go ahead, lie all you want. Go ahead and be cruel. Go ahead
and deny that your're doing what you're doing. -- G.A.

You (Garry Scarff) surface with your attacks and pornographic postings
and each time that you do I will release more info on you, who Lynn
Garrett really is, how Lynn Garrett makes his living, how Garry Scarff
became Lynn Garrett, vice versa. How Garry Scarff has accused at least
six individuals of homosexual attacks. -- J.B.

All I can say is that Scarff -- and the conflicting declarations he's
made in the past -- is what led me to become very skeptical of
anyone's claim of past abuse from cults, whether they've been sworn to
under penality or not. There may be some people willing to pick and
choose from Scarff's statement, selecting what they wish to beleive
and labelling as lies anything they don't wish to believe. I tend to
think that anyone so willing to change sides so often, for whatecver
reason, has list all hope of credibility. -- D. R.

I am a 100 percent convinced that no Scientologist told infiltrator
Garry Scarff to kill people, but that is all a product of this
criminal and mentally retarded mind. -- Barbara Schwarz


BTW, for those who don't know Garry Scarff, he is a pathological
liar...Garry lies continually about the "celebrities" he encounters.
He pretended to be a Jonestown survivor. -- G.A.

I have Scarff killfiled and so I don't see_his_posts, dear whatever.
-- Z.
And auto-attack drones like Garry Scarff, whose only learned skills
seem to
be anonymous posts, hiding behind spam merchants, and selling critics'
email
addresses to kiddy-porn sites. -- S.G.

Placing him (Scarff) in a killfile as probably 100 ars regulars have
done. Anyway, ars sure is a different place without him hanging
around. Must say I like it. :) *No one* makes as much noise as this
deseased creep... -- M.H.

FACTNet's archives include Garry Scarff's deposition revealing what he
claimed was a meeting with Moxon, Ingram, and others in which he swore
under penalty of perjury that all sorts of nefarious and illegal
schemes were plotted. FACTNet never reveals Garry Scarff's incredibly
checkered past history of flip-flopping between the battling cultists
and anticultists, or his ready admission that he's fabricated stories
from whole cloth (like his parents' death at Jonestown) in the past.
In Scarff's case, it wasn't just OSA who tried to warn readers about
Scarff's lack of credibility. -- D. R.


Scarff is active member of the gay WeHo "church", that according to
Scarff applaudes Scarff's lawless behavior against me. An ex-WeHo
member wrote me that this "church" sanctions and promotes dishonorable
behavior and that he and his friends were raped and drugged by one of
their active members, and that one of their active members murdered
others under the guise of "drug overdose". The ex-WeHo wrote that the
gay men make sexual innuendo during sermon and "church" leadership, as
their "Pastor" Terry Brewer, doesn't see what's wrong with that.
All that and more is documented on the Internet. You can go to the
Google newsgroups and check yourself. He posts with
dickto...@mindless.com (Dicktop_Stud); with Papa Boner; with
Cindarella and the seven dwarfs, with Barbara Schwarz is a notorious
psychotic liar, an identity stealer, an ugly cow, and a disgrace to
the human race (Boobara...@emailaccount.com); with with e-mail
address Barbara...@emailaccount.com and identities
"Barbara_Schwarz"; "the real Barbara Schwarz de Rothschild"; "Truth
Speaker 2"; and with ID Still_lying_about_Marty. None of those posting
is by me, the real Barbara Schwarz, nor do I post under
Babbling.Barbara.Schwarz and e-mail address
theonewhoisadelu...@emailaccount.com. I posted first with
ID "Guess who"? and e-mail account
theonewhoshallnotspeakout@emailaccount untill he stole again my
identity and posts now also with identity "Guess who" and with e-mail
account "theonewhoisadelusionalliar". He also stole the identity of
Mark Rathbun or Marty Rathbun (mrat...@scientology.org). Garry
Scarff's sexual harassment, insults, libel, persecution, harassment,
abuse, threats and cyber stalking of me, Barbara Schwarz, are under
different Google identities on the net. Scarff uses e-mail accounts
and posting identities with my name in it or a name similar as my name
to commit those crimes against me, but they can be all traced to him.
Interesting however is that he did not want to state his own address
to a court as he was afraid that he could himself come to harm. If he
fears criminality by not even tell the court where he lives, how come
he posts over and over my address on the net and lies that people
would get sexual services at my address and that there is a Hitler fan
club at my address? Scarff persecutes me from usenet thread to thread
often using my name as identity for his crimes (!) and verbally
assaults me, threatens me, harasses me, sexually harasses me, tries to
intimidate me, libels, insults and lies about me. He furthermore lied
that he spoke to a roommate of mine in the Utah mental health
hospital. I never was in that hospital, but he probably escaped from
one.

Scarff is the ultimate lawless and dangerous scum and police needs to
arrest him and lock him up.

Barbara Schwarz

Convicted thief Barbara Schwarz wants to kill me

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Scarff didn't bother answering this psychopath who has refused
numerous requests by numerous critics to provide evidence of her
repeated claims she is related to the Eisenhower family, that she is
married to a Rothschild, that she was ever married, that a secret
submarine village where residents don't age is submerged in the Great
Salt Lake (max. depth: 33 feet), that all the state and federal law
enforcement agencies are in a global conspiracy with the German Nazi
Secret Police, etc. etc.

Scarff refuses to entertain requests to a known schizophrenic &
sociopath whose only reason for posting in the Internet is to
ridicule, denigrate and attack people whom she has never met, claiming
to be a Scientologist but showing no evidence of this, rather she
posts long winded, farcical stories she refers to as "shocking news"
when she is not carrying on conversations with walls or house plants.

Scarff provided evidence that Barbara Schwarz is a convicted thief in
Salt Lake City, a claim she has long denied, until Scarff revealed the
specifics of the incident which Schwarz again denied, but then
admitted to, tried to explain away, make excuses for, then denied
again.

Anyone that shows the least bit of consideration & respect towards
Barbara Schwarz is attacked and defamed by her. While she screams that
she is being stalked and victim to malicious libel and slander, she
readily engages in it wholesale against others. In Barbara Schwarz's
sick, delusional world, she is the only one capable of knowing the
truth. Mental health professionals tried to help her when she was
institutionalized in the Utah State Hospital for 5 years, to no avail.
Barbara Schwarz has a well-documented history of hostility toward
others, combativeness, and extreme paranoia fed by fanciful delusions,
often claiming to always telling the truth, then tripping over her own
lies time after time.

Anyone remotely interested in this demented, delusional psychopath
only need to enter "Barbara.Schwarz+CIA" into Google to be presented
with hundreds of hyperlinks to the increasingly mad, mad world of this
lunatic.

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