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Nikolaus Maack

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Oct 28, 2000, 9:57:18 AM10/28/00
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Long ago, modern masters of art slaved away in caves, creating beautiful
depictions of naked chicks and buffalo. Their canvases and cave walls
were expensive, heavy, and could not be worn as clothing. You could not
use their canvas to drink your coffee. You couldn't use the cave wall as
a mousepad -- mainly because computers hadn't been invented yet.

The modern age has changed all that. A fantastic piece of art that sold
on Ebay for $400 has been transformed, for your convenience, into an
incredibly affordable t-shirt, coffee mug, mousepad, and much more.

To purchase these technological wonders, head to:

http://www.cafepress.com/nikart

See the rainbow distortion of L. Ron Hubbard head to new heights! Be the
T-shirted sex demon of anti-$cientology you always knew you could be.
Drink deeply from an L. Ron coffee mug, knowing the satisfaction of
multi-coloured mockey. Run your mouse over the face of a dead tyrant.

Please remember that it is almost Christmas time. Purchase 18 t-shirts
for your closest friends, relatives, and the occasional randomly selected
stranger who wonders why you're handing them gifts on a street corner.

Nik


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Tilman Hausherr

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Oct 28, 2000, 10:31:02 AM10/28/00
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On 28 Oct 2000 13:57:18 GMT, ac...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Nikolaus Maack)
wrote in <8telvu$khi$1...@freenet9.carleton.ca>:

>The modern age has changed all that. A fantastic piece of art that sold
>on Ebay for $400 has been transformed, for your convenience, into an
>incredibly affordable t-shirt, coffee mug, mousepad, and much more.
>
>To purchase these technological wonders, head to:
>
>http://www.cafepress.com/nikart

Sounds like a copyright violation to me. After all, you sold your
artwork, and you sold the real thing, not one of these "limited edition"
copies.

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Captain Nerd

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Oct 28, 2000, 11:09:54 AM10/28/00
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In article <8telvu$khi$1...@freenet9.carleton.ca>, ac...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
(Nikolaus Maack) wrote:

> Long ago, modern masters of art slaved away in caves, creating beautiful
> depictions of naked chicks and buffalo. Their canvases and cave walls

I would like to take this opportunity to point out that "Naked Chicks
and Buffalo" would make a great name for a rock band.

Cap.


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barb

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Oct 28, 2000, 11:21:36 AM10/28/00
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Very good, Nik. Think I'll order me a coffee mug.

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yduzitmatter

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Oct 28, 2000, 11:37:13 AM10/28/00
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Sounds like a copyright violation to me. After all, you sold your
artwork, and you sold the real thing, not one of these "limited edition"
copies.
Tilman Hausherr

Tilman:
He owns the copyright - the original is mine!! What he chooses to
do with copies of the original is his to do - I have no objection
Y

JimDBB

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Oct 28, 2000, 12:30:10 PM10/28/00
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>Subject: Let the L. Ron Portrait T-shirt Sales Begin!
>From: ac...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Nikolaus Maack)
>Date: 10/28/00 8:57 AM Central

Well done, Nik. Would you consider putting the wonderful "Nut in the Hat"
picture on T-shirts and making them available? I think that this one would
sell even better.

JImDBB

Tilman Hausherr

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Oct 28, 2000, 12:55:48 PM10/28/00
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:11:04 -0600, James Wood <jmw...@home.com> wrote
in <q9ulvsgpjen28qpej...@4ax.com>:

>Generally, unless a piece of fine art is created as a direct
>commission, when a work is sold the owner gets the piece but the
>artist retains copyright. In fact, when a work is sold to a gallery
>or museum for a permanent collection, unless the artist signs a
>release allowing the work to be exhibited without a fee being paid
>to them, the gallery generally will store the work and not exhibit
>it (unless they're wealthy enough to pay artist fees for every
>exhibit, which most aren't). My wife has at least one piece in an
>art gallery's permanent collection that, for various reasons, is in
>this status.
>
>James

Weird... if this is true, it would also mean that I am not allowed to
scan and web artwork that I have bought from an artist :-(

Lionel Fuddpucker

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Oct 28, 2000, 1:22:25 PM10/28/00
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In article <ol0mvscn6h3f8vta4...@4ax.com>,
Tilman Hausherr <til...@berlin.snafu.de> wrote:

> Weird... if this is true, it would also mean that I am not allowed to

> scan and web artwork that I have bought from an artist.

True, but you can ask permission to do so.

Speaking of which...

Mr Artist, may I have permission to use a copy of that on my
Scientology WWW site? If not, I'll remove it. Sorry about not asking
first.

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Ted Mayett

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Oct 28, 2000, 2:49:04 PM10/28/00
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 18:55:48 +0200, Tilman Hausherr
<til...@berlin.snafu.de> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:11:04 -0600, James Wood <jmw...@home.com> wrote
>in <q9ulvsgpjen28qpej...@4ax.com>:
>
>>Generally, unless a piece of fine art is created as a direct
>>commission, when a work is sold the owner gets the piece but the
>>artist retains copyright. In fact, when a work is sold to a gallery
>>or museum for a permanent collection, unless the artist signs a
>>release allowing the work to be exhibited without a fee being paid
>>to them, the gallery generally will store the work and not exhibit
>>it (unless they're wealthy enough to pay artist fees for every
>>exhibit, which most aren't). My wife has at least one piece in an
>>art gallery's permanent collection that, for various reasons, is in
>>this status.
>>
>>James
>
>Weird... if this is true, it would also mean that I am not allowed to
>scan and web artwork that I have bought from an artist :-(

Only if *you* specifically requested the work be done.

>>Generally, unless a piece of fine art is created as a direct
>>commission,

This is good. It means I own some artwork on the web.
It is mine - all mine- it belongs to me - <smiling and laughing>


ptsc

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Oct 28, 2000, 4:48:14 PM10/28/00
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 16:31:02 +0200, Tilman Hausherr <til...@berlin.snafu.de>
wrote:

>On 28 Oct 2000 13:57:18 GMT, ac...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Nikolaus Maack)
>wrote in <8telvu$khi$1...@freenet9.carleton.ca>:

>>The modern age has changed all that. A fantastic piece of art that sold
>>on Ebay for $400 has been transformed, for your convenience, into an
>>incredibly affordable t-shirt, coffee mug, mousepad, and much more.

>>To purchase these technological wonders, head to:

>>http://www.cafepress.com/nikart

>Sounds like a copyright violation to me. After all, you sold your
>artwork, and you sold the real thing, not one of these "limited edition"
>copies.

The sale of a piece of original artwork never grants copyright to the purchaser
except in the case of work-made-for-hire or commissioned works where such rights
are explicitly transferred by contract.

Otherwise all rights always inhere in the artist.

ptsc

Nikolaus Maack

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Oct 28, 2000, 11:31:37 PM10/28/00
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Tilman Hausherr (til...@berlin.snafu.de) writes:
> Sounds like a copyright violation to me. After all, you sold your
> artwork, and you sold the real thing, not one of these "limited edition"
> copies.

You know not of what you speak.

When an artist sells a painting, the artist still owns the rights to
the image. That is, I can sell the original to a gallery. If they run
off copies and start selling them, they are ripping me off. UNLESS, that
is, I sign a contract signing over ALL RIGHTS. This is like how a writer
loans a publication his story for one publishing run UNLESS he or she
signs a contract giving away ALL RIGHTS

Besides, the point is moot. I have the permission of the person who
bought the original painting to go ahead and sell other stuff featuring
the same image.

Now that that's cleared up and you feel all reassured, go here...

http://www.cafepress.com/nikart

...and buy like crazy.

Nik

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Nikolaus Maack

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Oct 28, 2000, 11:36:25 PM10/28/00
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JimDBB (jim...@aol.com) writes:
> Well done, Nik. Would you consider putting the wonderful "Nut in the Hat"
> picture on T-shirts and making them available? I think that this one would
> sell even better.
>

"Nut In The Hat"? Whatchew talking about?

I.S.Rennie

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> (Nikolaus Maack) wrote:
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> > Long ago, modern masters of art slaved away in caves, creating beautiful
> > depictions of naked chicks and buffalo. Their canvases and cave walls
>
> I would like to take this opportunity to point out that "Naked Chicks
> and Buffalo" would make a great name for a rock band.

too late, cap. The ARSCC(wdne) house band for out Prozac socials is
called Evil Purpose Boy

Captain Nerd

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<LIP0...@sheffield.ac.uk> wrote:

> Captain Nerd wrote:
> >
> > In article <8telvu$khi$1...@freenet9.carleton.ca>,
> > ac...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Nikolaus Maack) wrote:
> >
> > > Long ago, modern masters of art slaved away in caves, creating
> > > beautiful depictions of naked chicks and buffalo. Their canvases and
> > > cave walls
> >
> > I would like to take this opportunity to point out that "Naked Chicks
> > and Buffalo" would make a great name for a rock band.
>
> too late, cap. The ARSCC(wdne) house band for out Prozac socials is
> called Evil Purpose Boy

Well, I'm prepared to be "Buffalo" if someone wants to supply the
naked chicks...

Cap.


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Starshadow

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> > Captain Nerd wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <8telvu$khi$1...@freenet9.carleton.ca>,
> > > ac...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Nikolaus Maack) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Long ago, modern masters of art slaved away in caves, creating
> > > > beautiful depictions of naked chicks and buffalo. Their canvases
and
> > > > cave walls
> > >
> > > I would like to take this opportunity to point out that "Naked
Chicks
> > > and Buffalo" would make a great name for a rock band.
> >
> > too late, cap. The ARSCC(wdne) house band for out Prozac socials is
> > called Evil Purpose Boy
>
> Well, I'm prepared to be "Buffalo" if someone wants to supply the
> naked chicks...
>

But wouldn't those cute little birdies get all cold if someone shaved
their yellow fuzz?


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I.S.Rennie

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> > <LIP0...@sheffield.ac.uk> wrote:
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> > > Captain Nerd wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <8telvu$khi$1...@freenet9.carleton.ca>,
> > > > ac...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Nikolaus Maack) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Long ago, modern masters of art slaved away in caves, creating
> > > > > beautiful depictions of naked chicks and buffalo. Their canvases
> and
> > > > > cave walls
> > > >
> > > > I would like to take this opportunity to point out that "Naked
> Chicks
> > > > and Buffalo" would make a great name for a rock band.
> > >
> > > too late, cap. The ARSCC(wdne) house band for out Prozac socials is
> > > called Evil Purpose Boy
> >
> > Well, I'm prepared to be "Buffalo" if someone wants to supply the
> > naked chicks...
> >
>
> But wouldn't those cute little birdies get all cold if someone shaved
> their yellow fuzz?

ah, so they're natural blondes

Starshadow

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> Starshadow wrote:
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> > > In article <39FE9D48...@sheffield.ac.uk>, "I.S.Rennie"
> > > <LIP0...@sheffield.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Captain Nerd wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In article <8telvu$khi$1...@freenet9.carleton.ca>,
> > > > > ac...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Nikolaus Maack) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Long ago, modern masters of art slaved away in caves, creating
> > > > > > beautiful depictions of naked chicks and buffalo. Their
canvases
> > and
> > > > > > cave walls
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to take this opportunity to point out that "Naked
> > Chicks
> > > > > and Buffalo" would make a great name for a rock band.
> > > >
> > > > too late, cap. The ARSCC(wdne) house band for out Prozac socials is
> > > > called Evil Purpose Boy
> > >
> > > Well, I'm prepared to be "Buffalo" if someone wants to supply the
> > > naked chicks...
> > >
> >
> > But wouldn't those cute little birdies get all cold if someone shaved
> > their yellow fuzz?
>
> ah, so they're natural blondes

Most farmyard chicks are until their adult feathers grow in.

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