Narconon did not help Gregory Wisner
JimDBB
From: Mike Krotz <Tam...@verizonmail.com>
Subject: NarcononŽ did not help Gregory Wisner
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:30:58 -0500
Gregory B. Wisner, age 27, was identified as the person whose body was found in
the surf near Indian Rocks Beach, FL, on January 20, 2001.
- From the Report of Autopsy:
"The decedent had tried to stop using cocaine and had mentioned "cleansing"
himself to a close friend. Perhaps this is the reason for his visit to the
ocean. The cocaine intoxication may have contributed to his drowning. The
manner of death is accident."- John R. Thogmartin, M.D., Chief Medical Examiner
Gregory Wisner was raised in ScientologyŽ households, but more recently had
become subject to Scientology's disconnection policy.[1] His father, R. Michael
Wisner, is a prominent Scientologist and spokesperson for the virtues of
Narconon's procedures, and is co-author of a study claiming that toxic damage
to nervous tissue can be reduced with Mr. Hubbard's protocol.
R. Michael Wisner is in a photo on this web page:
http://www.narconon.org/html/30thanni/html/boldplan.htm
And is cited on this page: http://www.narconon.org/html/results/page12.htm
His personal Scientology page is here: http://www.our-home.org/rmichaelwisner/
R. Michael Wisner is also the author of a book, Living Healthy in a Toxic
World, featured here: http://psychfraud.freedommag.org/page43.htm
This book features an introduction by Kirstie Alley.
R. Michael Wisner evidently had minimal contact with his son in recent years.
The last meeting between father and son was described as an argument. He did
not attend his son's funeral.
Gregory Wisner's mother, Helen, married Herb Zerden when Gregory was quite
young. Helen and Herb are active Clearwater, FL area Scientologists. Herb
Zerden has been documented working with local FaRT and Bigotwatch founder Mary
DeMoss, in her harassment campaign of Scientology critics.
The last conversation between Gregory Wisner and his mother was described as an
argument. His mother told police that she thought her son was off at a drug
treatment program, and therefore did not suspect anything strange when he
disappeared. She also told police she was aware that he had a problem with
cocaine.
Gregory Wisner attended Narconon in December 1997.
MK
[1] Disconnection: This is Scientology cultspeak for when a family member is
ordered to stop talking to or seeing another family member. Followers are most
often ordered to "disconnect" from loved ones when loved ones try to help get
the cultist out of the organization, tries to reason with them, or tries to
stop them from giving the Scientology cult all their money. In this aspect,
"disconnection" is one of the primary classical earmarks of a dangerous cult. -
flr]
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LaserClam
>NarCONon did not help Gregory Wisner
Have you noticed any one else who hasn`t been helped?
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Why do you ask?
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On 15 Oct 2001 17:05:28 GMT, lase...@aol.com (LaserClam) wrote:
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Wow! That's a helluva question. As good as a session, it is!
Well, lessee here. The goal of Scientology is to help a person lead a
better life in his own estimation. Does that constitute help?
I'm just guessing here, but I think you mean, "Did the person get off
drugs and stay off?"
Gary Smith, former ED Narconon US was not helped enough not to relapse
to heroin after completing OT3. Neither was Virgil Workman, the
Narconon reg. throughout most of the 80's, who OD'd after more than a
decade on Narconon staff..
Gary's wife, Debbie, left him and went off to eat burritoes and smoke
pot in Cerritos with a Narconon student. The nicest people do.
Neither was Kim Hopkins, who was sent off to get more money for the
program, but drowned in a swimming pool. Free service equal free fall,
you know.
Frank Giampetro died of a suicide overdose. Hopeless about getting off
drugs, and hopeless about being gay.
Neither was Nick D'Ottavio whose parents sent him to Los Angeles from
New York and who did heroin the whole time he was here.
Neither was Rick Hays, one of the few peopleto actually attest to
completing the Narconon program, yet relapsed to heroin thereafter. Of
course, he completed his staff contract first.
Casey Green, also former Narconon staff, finished OT3 and shot a Santa
Barbara County Sheriff who was breaking down the door to his house as
part of a cocaine sales investigation.
Ben Gibson gave up Scientology for homosexual affairs with little
boys. Progress perhaps, but not exactly help. Doesn't do drugs
though.
Jim Clemmens wasn't helped, although he slept with the Executive
Director, while the Senior C/S broken in the windows of his car with a
baseball bat. Went back to drugs, went back to jail. That was Jeanne
Jurich, budding starlet and lead in "The Jeanne Jurich" Story. Ask her
about how she put hot spatulas on her nipples.
Mike Brock wasn't helped with his alcohol problem. He was hit in the
head with a baseball bat by the Dir of Inspections & Reports, Steve
Elkins. Narconon settled the case some time in 1984-1985.
Steve Elkins wasn't helped either. But he set the all-time record for
Purif redos after relapses. He was finally recruited for staff to save
his parents money. He was "fired" after hitting Brock in the head with
the baseball bat.
The minors who were illegal residential students weren't helped
either. Mike Brock was buying liquor for them.
Of course, if the tech had just been standardly applied, none of this
would ever have happened, right?