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Roland

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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If OTs are for real then how come so many of them die? Why can't they
cure themselves or make themselves young again? And if they are
deliberately dropping the body then how come they don't turn up at
muster or graduations and wave to everybody and even give a Success
Story? If OTs are for real then how come people like me can get away
with picketing their orgs time and time again? Why don't they just
change my mind?

I'll tell you why, you brainwashed bivalves. It's because there is no
such thing as an OT and you are complete fools for believing in them. A
dead sci-fi hack selling people super-powers and you actually believe
it. You üntermensch.

Roland
--
"I notice that we all believe that Venus has a methane atmosphere and
is unlivable. I almost got run down by a freight locomotive the other
day -- didn't look very uncivilized to me." - L. Ron Hubbard,
"Between Lives Implants" lecture, SHSBC #317. 23 July 1963.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~xemu/rams/Venusloc.ram

Ralph Hilton

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:46:16 +0000, Roland
<roland.rash...@virgin.net> wrote:

>If OTs are for real then how come so many of them die? Why can't they
>cure themselves or make themselves young again?

OTs don't die. They come back to haunt you.

>And if they are
>deliberately dropping the body then how come they don't turn up at
>muster or graduations and wave to everybody and even give a Success
>Story? If OTs are for real then how come people like me can get away
>with picketing their orgs time and time again? Why don't they just
>change my mind?

It is very hard to change minds that are asleep.

>I'll tell you why, you brainwashed bivalves. It's because there is no
>such thing as an OT and you are complete fools for believing in them. A
>dead sci-fi hack selling people super-powers and you actually believe
>it. You üntermensch.
>
>Roland

So you finally bought a german dictionary?

Ich bin Üntermensch??

Du verstehe nicht.

Die Untermenschen sind das Volk, daß nicht versteht, das der Führer noch
einmal kommt.

Heil LRON!!!

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Gerry Armstrong

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:46:16 +0000, Roland
<roland.rash...@virgin.net> wrote:

>If OTs are for real then how come so many of them die? Why can't they

>cure themselves or make themselves young again? And if they are


>deliberately dropping the body then how come they don't turn up at
>muster or graduations and wave to everybody and even give a Success
>Story? If OTs are for real then how come people like me can get away
>with picketing their orgs time and time again? Why don't they just
>change my mind?
>

>I'll tell you why, you brainwashed bivalves. It's because there is no
>such thing as an OT and you are complete fools for believing in them. A
>dead sci-fi hack selling people super-powers and you actually believe
>it. You üntermensch.

It's actually worse than you present it. $cientology shortens your
life expectancy, rather than lengthens it. Look what it did for
Hubbard.

When he was just beginning to mock up of his $cientology technology
for OTs he wrote, speaking of himself:

[Quote]

You will live to be 200 years old, both because you are calm and
because of modern discoveries to be made in your lifetime.

[End Quote]

But after almost 40 more years of $cientology, more auditing than
anyone else on the planet, and the best auditing obviously, he died
before he reached the age of 75. Clearly $cientology shortened his
life. Clearly $cientology kept him from accomplishing his postulate.
Using Hubbard himself as the perfect example of $cientology's
"workability" it can be predicted that $cientology cuts 125 years off
your life expectancy.

(c) Gerry Armstrong

Dave Bird

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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In article<j2olbsk4mq7emmps4...@4ax.com>, Ralph Hilton
<ra...@hilton.org> writes:
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>On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:46:16 +0000, Roland
><roland.rash...@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>>If OTs are for real then how come so many of them die? Why can't they
>>cure themselves or make themselves young again?
>
>OTs don't die. They come back to haunt you.
>
>>And if they are
>>deliberately dropping the body then how come they don't turn up at
>>muster or graduations and wave to everybody and even give a Success
>>Story? If OTs are for real then how come people like me can get away
>>with picketing their orgs time and time again? Why don't they just
>>change my mind?
>
>It is very hard to change minds that are asleep.

Actually it is extraordinarily hard for OTs to change anything,
by a very strange coincidence. Even their underpants.

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ANLinhardt

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Feb 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/29/00
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I have never been involved in scientology, nor will I ever. I have only known
those who have and hear the stories. It fascinates me. The OT scale most of
all. People actually buy into this shit? I have many transcripts outlining
the auditing for the higher OT levels. The questions are amazing. I am a
student reporter. I hope to one day infiltrate the high levels, mostly out of
my own curiousity. For the record: I have no overts or withholds against space
and matter. Ha Ha Ha. Be warned, People who know the truth shall rule the
world. Power. This is what it is all about isn't it? Signed, The PAPERMAN


Ed

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Feb 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/29/00
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To penetrate those levels you would have to either spend a
great deal of money and at least a few years of your time, or join the
Sea Org. If you do the latter you sign a billion-year contract and
become more and more a slave in an environment that is unbelievably
tightly controlled. SO members don't get to do the upper levels except
for the uncommon case where they 1) have already paid a lot for and
completed the lower levels, and 2) they are very, very valuable,
"upstat" producers for quite some time. Even then they won't give it
away. Anyone joining the SO is going to be separated from any and all
valuable assets they have in the real world.

In case you haven't realized it yet: the OT levels are
entirely and only about polishing one's total devotion to an outside
cause. The processes of the OT levels are mostly fairly harmless
(except for OT3 and NOTs) but the environment and context surrounding
them is seriously bad. The "pre-OT gets numerous lengthy "security
checks" or "False Purpose Rundown" sessions which are like police
interrogations and which very effectively program the person into
having great fear of having independent thoughts because thinking for
oneself leads to more and more unpleasant and very expensive sec check
"auditing".

The whole point of the Scn and other cult experiences,
metaphysically, is for some people to explore the experience of being
a devoted slave to a corrupt master. The lesson to be learned is that
you have to take responsibility for your own path with integrity.

Ed

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