Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Co$ in poker terms.

7 views
Skip to first unread message

Roger Larsson

unread,
Nov 18, 2002, 5:44:39 AM11/18/02
to
The ones having a good hand don't have to make any big acting, they
just have to be as they are.

The ones having a bad hand don't see any other way out than in doing a
great show in purpose to cover their bad hand and make it look good.

If ARS give Co$ a good hand Co$ can drop its acting and act freely as
it self.

Co$ becomes CoS and the ending becomes happy:-)

Roger Larsson

Gerry Armstrong

unread,
Nov 18, 2002, 3:56:30 PM11/18/02
to
On 18 Nov 2002 02:44:39 -0800, roge...@spray.se (Roger Larsson)
wrote:

Hi Roger:

This reminds me of a statement made by Los Angeles Superior Court
Judge Ronald Sohigian in a hearing in May 1992 in a case in which
Scientology sued me.

[Quote]

"The information (Gerald Armstrong's evidence) that's being suppressed
in this case (by the organization), however, is information about
extremely blame-worthy behavior of the plaintiff which nobody owns; it
is information having to do with the behavior of a high degree of
offensiveness and behavior which is meritorious in the extreme.

It involved abusing people who are weak. It involves taking advantage
of people who for one reason or another get themselves enmeshed in
this extremist view in a way that makes them unable to resist it
apparently. It involves using techniques of coercion." (5/27/92
hearing transcript at p. 107, l. 6)

"There appears to be in the history of [the organization's] behavior a
very, very substantial deviation between their conduct and standards
of ordinary, courteous conduct and standards of ordinary, honest
behavior. They're just way off in a different firmament."

"..it's the kind of behavior which makes you sort of be sure you cut
the deck and be sure you've counted all the cards. If you're having a
friendly poker game you'd make sure to count all the chips before you
dealt any cards." (5/27/92 hearing transcript at p. 108, l. 15, l. 21)

[End Quote]

http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/affi-1993-02-17.html

In the poker game paradigm, Scientology, holds a bad hand and all the
other players know it's a bad hand.

Everyone knows that the cult's big bets are bluffs.

The cult's only rational play is to fold, but rationality is not how
Scientology thinks it wins.

The cult tries to buy the pot, and the rest of the players can't match
their gargantuan bets.

When everyone got in, they thought it was a table stakes game, and
according to Hoyle.

But Scientology doesn't play by the same rules; it cheats, it bullies
and it's a terrifyingly poor loser.

Almost all the would-be players can't even come up with the ante.

Most good players don't get in because if the poor losers lose they
mug the winners in the alley as soon as they try to get out with their
winnings.

A few players have sat through the whole deal. They've been cheated,
lied to, stolen from, threatened and kicked. But they've followed
Judge Sohigian's rules, learned to count the cards, cut the deck and
even count the chips. They know the poor losers hold nothing. It's all
puffery. The good guys would raise the roof if they could, but they're
all in.

They know they'll be mugged, or even shot. But they're holding three
bullets, so the poor losers can't have enough left to take them all
out. They've got half the ladies to go with the aces. And they've got
alligator blood. So they call. And sit back and wait for the showdown.

Š Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org

Android Cat

unread,
Nov 18, 2002, 5:35:14 PM11/18/02
to
"Gerry Armstrong" <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote in message
news:uvjitusj776r7gm35...@4ax.com...

If it's anything like the elevators in the Toronto Org, they've got a
busted flush.

And speaking of flushes, is there an Org anywhere near this store:
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_711633.html

DIY store fits alarms to toilet rolls

A DIY store in Germany has fitted electronic alarms to toilet rolls in its
lavatories because customers keep stealing them.

Managers at the Baumarkt store in Koethen, Sachsen-Anhalt, took action
because of the number of customers taking toilet rolls home with them.

One manager said he was fed up with having to replace dozens of toilet
rolls each day.

He commented: "It was not only annoying for us, but uncomfortable for
other customers who were left without paper."

The alarms will sound if taken outside by light-fingered customers, the
German Express newspaper reports.

Story filed: 13:04 Monday 18th November 2002

Not that I'm saying that Co$ staff took them, but I seem to recall strange
policy about members supplying their own TP.

Ron of that ilk.


Zinj

unread,
Nov 18, 2002, 7:54:32 PM11/18/02
to
In article <EWdC9.3601$kS3.3...@news20.bellglobal.com>,
androi...@hotmail.com says...

Lest we forget the credible, if unverified tales of SO in Clearwater
'nudging' candy machines (profits to a charity) to get free snacks.

As far as my sympathies go for the 'Slaves of the Sea Org', and their own
victimology; I would find it hard to justify that 'misappropriation'
*ethically*, except using the Hubbardian ethics system that sees
Universal Scientology as the 'Ultimate Good', and the Sea Org, as its
avatars as above and beyond mere 'wog' ethics.

All Your Candy Bars Belong Us!

Zinj

Android Cat

unread,
Nov 18, 2002, 9:04:48 PM11/18/02
to
"Zinj" <zinj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.18432b9ff...@news2.lightlink.com...
> Lest we forget the credible, if unverified tales of SO in Clearwater
> 'nudging' candy machines (profits to a charity) to get free snacks.
>
> As far as my sympathies go for the 'Slaves of the Sea Org', and their
own
> victimology; I would find it hard to justify that 'misappropriation'
> *ethically*, except using the Hubbardian ethics system that sees
> Universal Scientology as the 'Ultimate Good', and the Sea Org, as its
> avatars as above and beyond mere 'wog' ethics.
>
> All Your Candy Bars [are] Belong [to] Us!

For Great Justice!

It is a pity that Co$ had to redefine "ethics" to be the greatest good for
Co$ (and thereby the greatest good for the planet, according to Co$).
Hopefully if some Org staff was rolling a candy machine, they'd have a Cog
and think about why/what they were doing when the Cthurch was willing to
spend millions to crush single critics. Is this for the "greatest good"
or is this the reaction of an unsane management? Think about them ethics,
but don't file a KR just yet. (And remember what LRH said about retreat,
something about large amounts of cash and ammo when you hightail it to
Bulgravia.)

When a group starts redefining words, you know someone is a sucker.
What's that advice about playing poker: if you don't see a sucker at the
table, leave because *you're* the sucker?

Whoops, I'm channelling Laser Clam...

"Have you spotted anyone else who is a sucker?"

Heck, you tell me. You've taken all that fancy/expensive training on how
to spot trees, people, buildings and .. spots. Can't you spot who's a
sucker? Could you spot a thought that is not? Even if you were taught?

Ron of that ilk.


mimus

unread,
Nov 18, 2002, 10:53:02 PM11/18/02
to
On 18 Nov 2002 02:44:39 -0800, roge...@spray.se (Roger Larsson)
wrote:

>The ones having a good hand don't have to make any big acting, they

You mean if ars declares a ceasefire, at least the more underhanded
Co$ ops worldwide will cease?

Wow.

--
tinmi...@hotmail.com

I saw
many people
reduced to
incoherent babbling,
stripping off clothes,
crawling around on the ground,
banging heads, limbs and other body parts
against furniture and walls,
barking,
losing all sense of one's identity
and intense and persistent suicidal ideation.

--Declaration of Andre Tabayoyon

I'm an OT.--Lisa McPherson

If you imagine 40-50 Scientologists
posting on the Internet every few days,
we'll just run the SP's right off the system.
It will be quite simple, actually.

--Elaine Siegel, OSA INT (1996)

Case 5/BTLA/SP1/BAD

KSJ

(And, BTW: Xenu Xenu Xenu!)


-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
-----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

Roger Larsson

unread,
Nov 20, 2002, 6:11:38 AM11/20/02
to
Gerry Armstrong <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote in message news:<uvjitusj776r7gm35...@4ax.com>...

Hi Gerry,

Members (scientologists) in their gambling houses really believe they
are heroic and choisen when they learn how to act in life, as players
radiating confidence in purpose to fool unknowing people on the
streets and in societies, even on internet.

Why is it so miraculous to be a best-seller? The ones that are able to
sell shit to others fool their buyers to believe they need this shit.
These ones are valuable in scientology and the ones acting in honesty
are the bad ones, they don't bring as many people in as the good ones
able to sell lies as if buyers can't live without them.

A million flies can't be wrong - shit is good!

It's not any pleasant sight to confront the reality. I did it in the
Gothenburgh org in Sweden in the mid 80's. I had pushed this org and
stressed many of its members to a strings breaking point. The best
seller on the org, the registrar broke down in front of me and started
to cry and became very ugly in his face. In sob he appealed to me
these words "I want to go free" and I became shocked. I had all the
time thoughted that I was the one needing CoS - after this happening
my reality became up side down. This best-seller confused me :-)

Roger Larsson

Roger Larsson

unread,
Nov 21, 2002, 9:31:54 AM11/21/02
to
mimus <tinmi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<nadjtu0oh5dol6l1d...@4ax.com>...

Maybe not but shall we live in eternity it's better to do it instead
of giving away our control to greedy assholes.

RL

0 new messages