ground zero volunteer horrified by Scientology vultures
Dave Touretzky
days after the 9/11 disaster. Below are her personal observations
about the unauthorized presence of Scientologists at the official
command center, and how she managed to get them booted out. I'm
withholding her name to protect her from Scientology harassment of the
sort we're all too familiar with.
-- Dave Touretzky
================================================================
I thought you might appreciate my own personal recent (nightmare)
experience with Scientologists -
Through my membership with an international children's charitable
organization that coordinated with the Red Cross in response to the
9/11 disaster, I found myself working with a mental health/mass care
group assigned to Ground Zero five days after the attack. (The fires
were still burning and gaining the proper Federal ID, etc. required to
access "The Pile" and interact with the rescue workers..police and
fire units and medical volunteers...was lengthy even with Red Cross
sponsorship.) In spite of the mind-numbing horror of the site itself,
balanced by the amazing and countering displays of humanity among
those on site, one of the largest jolts of emotion that I had was when
I entered the official command center (federal and local agencies)
housed in a school at the foot of the rubble. The lobby area was
overrun by Scientology reps (a dozen or more?) offering their brand of
'bearing witness' in exchange for minor first aid (foot powder,
bandaides, massages, cots). The displays of their pamphlets and books
spread strategically throughout the area was marketing at its most
agressive. They all donned brightly colored t-shirts and, striking me
as eerily inappropriate at the time, seemed to be festive in their
demeanor. A mental health volunteer and I immediately sought out the
'central command' of the relief effort and made a formal complaint.
Long story short, no one had apparently authorized their presence and
in fact, Guilliani, wisely, had publicly and formally strictly
forbidden religious groups from any visible presence.....after all,
wasn't it this kind of fanaticism that inspired the insanity of the
attacks?
No one knew how they had gotten access and they were routed out later
that day. I had been moved to soul-depleting nausea when I glanced at
some of the posters and flyers depicting space ships and aliens (with
comic book style graphics) and considered that their ability to
promote this view of 'reality' at a time when all of us where
questioning our reality as being no different from Bin Laden's
inspirations and applications. I still consider their presense as
'intellectual and spiritual terrorism' that was taking opportunistic
advantage of people (police and firemen and I assume family members at
the Pier site) who were still in the shock of having, for example,
watched "15 of my friends who were rushing the building in formation
to help get people out and seeing the building crush them ALL" (direct
quote from one of the NYPD officers I spoke with.)
This is not to say that there weren't other religions represented by
individuals (met one priest who was sensitive enough to remove his
collar before dispensing psychological/spiritual comfort along with
eyewash and footpads), but they operated as individual volunteers
simply availing themselves to anyone who wanted to speak with them.
No religious tracts, bibles or other paraphanelia visible anywhere.
The Scientologist's were the only ones sucking the much needed air out
of the site by promoting their agenda. They were Scientologists FIRST
and human beings SECOND. Oh yeah, that's consistent isn't it?
(name withheld)
Poopsy Charmicheal
I wonder how many raw books they sold that day?
If you give a locational to a bleeding fireman without getting punched, can
you count it as WDAHs?
Poopsy
"Dave Touretzky" <d...@cs.cmu.edu> wrote in message
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Beverly Rice
>
> A woman I know worked as a volunteer at Ground Zero in Manhattan five
> days after the 9/11 disaster. Below are her personal observations
> about the unauthorized presence of Scientologists at the official
> command center, and how she managed to get them booted out. I'm
> withholding her name to protect her from Scientology harassment of the
> sort we're all too familiar with.
>
> -- Dave Touretzky
Thank you very much, Dave.
Is there anywhere that the original scientology "memos"
are webbed that were a call to arms of all Co$'ers that
could to go to the disaster site . . .
as well as Co$'s version of reports etc?
It would be nice if there was a site that followed the
Co$ vulturism from the onset of the disaster to the
present.
ARC = As-ising the Real Co$,
Beverly
ptsc
>A woman I know worked as a volunteer at Ground Zero in Manhattan five
>days after the 9/11 disaster. Below are her personal observations
>about the unauthorized presence of Scientologists at the official
>command center, and how she managed to get them booted out. I'm
>withholding her name to protect her from Scientology harassment of the
>sort we're all too familiar with.
>-- Dave Touretzky
>================================================================
[Anecdote of despicable cultists snipped.]
>This is not to say that there weren't other religions represented by
>individuals (met one priest who was sensitive enough to remove his
>collar before dispensing psychological/spiritual comfort along with
>eyewash and footpads), but they operated as individual volunteers
>simply availing themselves to anyone who wanted to speak with them.
>No religious tracts, bibles or other paraphanelia visible anywhere.
>The Scientologist's were the only ones sucking the much needed air out
>of the site by promoting their agenda. They were Scientologists FIRST
>and human beings SECOND. Oh yeah, that's consistent isn't it?
>(name withheld)
Interestingly, this is what the cultists were writing about the other aid
workers in their internal mail.
"The Red Cross has told us when we went to help at their
shelters and found no one there, "the people say they are doing fine
so we send them back out". Thats because the Red Cross' confront is
sooo low they can't even see when people are suffering right in front
of them. They are blind. I have stood in Times Square at 7:00pm with
people all around and I swear I could have communicated in whispers
and been heard at 20 feet, such a hush lies over this place. It hurts.
Big time. Nobody is in PT. They are stuck in the incident."
"Lt." Simon Hare CO I HELP Canada (in NY), 14 Sep 2001
---
The cultist then want on to trash the representatives of real religions that
were there helping, instead of jumping in front of every camera they could find.
---
"The other religions here with their ministers have
shown their true colors and are working hand in hand with the psychs
to give these people as much false data and restimulation as they can.
They HAVE NO TECH and they're not even trying to hide it anymore.
They've crossed over and abandoned anything spiritual and
to hell with them. "
"Lt." Simon Hare CO I HELP Canada (in NY), 14 Sep 2001
---
The cultist also boasted about disrupting relief operations by real relief
workers, describing the cult's attempts to prevent victims from receiving aid as
"genius."
---
Additionally we are trying to move in and knock the psychs out of
counseling to the grieving families and that could take another 100
plus people right now. Due to some brilliant maneuvering by some
simply genius Sea Org Members we tied up the majority of the psychs
who were attempting to get to families yesterday in Q&A, bullbait and
wrangling. They have a hard time completing cycles of action and are
pretty easy to disperse. But today they are out in full force and
circling like vultures over these people and all of our resources are
tied up in the support efforts in the disaster zone at present.
"Lt." Simon Hare CO I HELP Canada (in NY), 14 Sep 2001
---
Another cultist had similar boasts.
---
"At the relief station at a nearby high school,
some psychs had a table set up. They were
not doing anything; one of them just sat there
staring into space. Since the table wasn't in
use, the VMs started putting drinks and
snacks on it. The chief of security for the
location came by and suggested that the
VMs just take down their counseling sign and
put up one for drinks and snacks, so they did.
The VMs reported that the drink table got a
lot more business after that!"
--VOLUNTEER MINISTER BRIEFING
September 19, 2001, from
Eric Anderson
Class VI OT IV
VM Activation volunteer
I HELP West U.S.
(The rest of this "briefing" was mostly gloating about how many journalists they
talked to and who filmed them.)
---
Another crime cultist gloated about how many "wins" they had.
---
"Due to the incredible acknowledgement our VMs are getting in NY, I think we
have produced some major wins for ourselves out of this crisis. With the
President and our Congress and military focused on taking out the planetary SPs,
WE can move in with the tech and really make some headway! Just think of all the
new people already on the Bridge!! That is going to multiply geometrically into
HUGE proportions. I don't know about the rest of you, but I, for one, am
JAZZED!!! Scientology and Scientologists ROCK!!!!!"
Quoted from
From: Noumenon<noum...@freedom.net>
Subject: More commentary on WTC & volunteer ministers
Message-ID: <kOMq7.81$ev2...@www.newsranger.com>
---
Another cultist lied insanely about how the cultists were put in charge of the
whole thing--the cultist neglects to mention them being booted out.
---
" And what happened with the psychs who had been "In-Charge"? Since
we jumped in so quickly, confronted what was needed and
then started providing it, even the psychiatrics viewed us as
the leaders. So, they started asking us what they should do.
We found some good MEST work for them to do,
which they did, and they came up tone as they were now contributing."
ML, PO3 Peter McCuen, Supercargo ASHOF, before 4 Oct 2001
---
This is what these delusional nutcases were doing while others tried to help.
ptsc
Garry
says...
>
>I wonder how many raw books they sold that day?
>
>If you give a locational to a bleeding fireman without getting punched, can
>you count it as WDAHs?
MSNBC reported that they were distributing their "Way To Happiness" brochures.
Garry
>
>On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 12:44:52 +0000 (UTC), d...@cs.cmu.edu (Dave Touretzky) wrote:
>
>>A woman I know worked as a volunteer at Ground Zero in Manhattan five
>>days after the 9/11 disaster. Below are her personal observations
>>about the unauthorized presence of Scientologists at the official
>>command center, and how she managed to get them booted out. I'm
>>withholding her name to protect her from Scientology harassment of the
>>sort we're all too familiar with.
>
>>-- Dave Touretzky
>
>>individuals (met one priest who was sensitive enough to remove his
>>collar before dispensing psychological/spiritual comfort along with
>>eyewash and footpads), but they operated as individual volunteers
>>simply availing themselves to anyone who wanted to speak with them.
>>No religious tracts, bibles or other paraphanelia visible anywhere.
>>The Scientologist's were the only ones sucking the much needed air out
>>of the site by promoting their agenda. They were Scientologists FIRST
>>and human beings SECOND. Oh yeah, that's consistent isn't it?
Christ. You didn't hear much about this in the media BUT you did hear much about
celebrity whore Scientologist Tom Cruise, his new brain-dead gal-pal, and his
getting new braces, and talking to German leaders about his cult.
What's this world coming to?
Fluffygirl
"Dave Touretzky" <d...@cs.cmu.edu> wrote in message
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She must have either been looking at critic's brochures or those of another
group.
CofS does not put space ships and aliens and comic book style graphics on
it's literature.
Some other folks do, though.
At this point I'm wondering if there weren't some other individuals milling
about on behalf of their particular group or cult at the same time and this
person thought one was the same as another.
>and considered that their ability to
> promote this view of 'reality' at a time when all of us where
> questioning our reality as being no different from Bin Laden's
> inspirations and applications. I still consider their presense as
> 'intellectual and spiritual terrorism' that was taking opportunistic
> advantage of people (police and firemen and I assume family members at
> the Pier site) who were still in the shock of having, for example,
> watched "15 of my friends who were rushing the building in formation
> to help get people out and seeing the building crush them ALL" (direct
> quote from one of the NYPD officers I spoke with.)
>
> This is not to say that there weren't other religions represented by
> individuals (met one priest who was sensitive enough to remove his
> collar before dispensing psychological/spiritual comfort along with
> eyewash and footpads), but they operated as individual volunteers
> simply availing themselves to anyone who wanted to speak with them.
> No religious tracts, bibles or other paraphanelia visible anywhere.
> The Scientologist's were the only ones sucking the much needed air out
> of the site by promoting their agenda. They were Scientologists FIRST
> and human beings SECOND. Oh yeah, that's consistent isn't it?
>
I'm not convinced that the pamphlets she saw were Scn ones because of the
description of them.
However I would not be one bit surprised if the CofS members who came DID
bring literature with them.
And I would say that if they did, then it was grossly inappropriate and in
poor taste.
Individual Scientologists did and do very much want to help. Whether those
be Scientologists in or out of CofS. However, CofS, I believe, saw this as a
PR opportunity.
The efforts to help should have been divested of the PR aspect. Then the
sincerity of the individual membes- which I know was very much present-
would have been far more evident.
There still would have been a few vitriolic fools looking to find fault, but
all in all, the help would have been far more effective and far more real.
I consider that the Church Members were taken advantage of. People like this
lady would probably NEVER give them any credit now, and I KNOW that they
really did care.
But like I said, the PR opportunist aspect that CofS management was
embracing pretty much negated all of that. And that's a shame.
But the thing is this: help, assistance, support, should not have strings
attached. The reason Giuliani did not want religious propagandizing in the
mix is that then the help has strings attached. And that's NEVER a good
thing. And it's particularly sucky when there are people undergoing
incredible stress and loss trying to put a city, trying to put lives- back
together.
C
ptsc
>CofS does not put space ships and aliens and comic book style graphics on
>it's literature.
Oh, the hell they don't. I have here a pamphlet saying "Gain the Skill To
Achieve Total OT" and it has a "Solo Wings" logo with the Scientology
double-triangle symbol blasting off into space on a rocket. I've seen loads of
other shit packed with OT Symbols in space over Planet Earth and guys with light
sabers who "Want to Go OT."
It's all very space opera. There is rarely a publication without a starfield
graphic in it, if not an outright space ship, something blasting off on a
rocket, or someone slaying a dragon.
ptsc
Fluffygirl
"ptsc" <ptsc AT nym DOT cryptofortress DOT com> wrote in message
news:s5128ukhu33mfdrto...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:39:47 -0600, "Fluffygirl" <amaflu...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> >CofS does not put space ships and aliens and comic book style graphics on
> >it's literature.
>
> Oh, the hell they don't. I have here a pamphlet saying "Gain the Skill To
> Achieve Total OT" and it has a "Solo Wings" logo with the Scientology
> double-triangle symbol blasting off into space on a rocket. I've seen
loads of
> other shit packed with OT Symbols in space over Planet Earth and guys with
light
> sabers who "Want to Go OT."
I don't think of that as a space ship. maybe I'm being literal minded, but
that lady was making it sound like there were flying saucers and Xenu or
gray alien thingies on the pamphlets.
One does not refer to NASA style constructs as space ships.
C
Phineas Fogg
If this message doesn't convey just what is severely troubling about
Scientology, nothing will.
Scientology reminds me of that movie "The Body Snatchers" but,
instead of an alien force doing the snatching, here we have their
bodies long ago snatched by a soul sucking ideology, one which will go
to any length to advance its goal of world domination.
Utterly chilling.
Phineas Fogg
Dave Touretzky <d...@cs.cmu.edu> wrote in message
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barb
Indeed. On the door to the computer room, I have a poster that's an ad
to join the Sea Borg. The graphic is very reminiscent of Close
Encounters of the Third Kind, being a group of people walking towards a
brilliant light o'ertopped by a SO emblem.
Sometimes, Fluffy, you go too far in your defense of the cult! I have
literally STACKS of cultie propaganda. It's filthy with graphic
allusions to the '50s-style future L. Ron Hubbard envisioned. Space
ships, star fields, yadda yadda yadda.
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC
http://members.cox.net/bwarr1/index.htm
SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATE $CIENTOLOGY? Sign the petition at
http://www4.PetitionOnline.com/cofs1/
"Every week, every month, every year, every decade and now
every century, Scientology does weird and stupid things
to damage its own reputation."
-Steve Zadarnowski
"Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
Scientology."
-ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.
$cientology oozes _under_ terrorists to hide."
-Chris Leithiser
Beverly Rice
> On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:39:47 -0600, "Fluffygirl" <amaflu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >CofS does not put space ships and aliens and comic book style graphics on
> >it's literature.
> Oh, the hell they don't.
Look at the cover jacket to the LRH/Co$ book, The
Basic Study Manual (BSM, ir more correctly, the "BM")
http://www.b-org.demon.nl/scn/childabuse/bsm.html
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/StudyTech/
ARC = As-Ising the Real Co$,
Beverly
Fluffygirl
"barb" <bwa...@cox.net> wrote in message news:3C813281...@cox.net...
It's just that from what that woman wrote, I was envisioning pics of green
aliens, those gray thingie ones, flying saucers and so on. I don't think of
NASA style constructs as spaceships.
Also the comic book style graphics.
CofS literature is very slick and expensive looking. (It's prompted my
husband to say MANY times, "Gee, I wish they'd just send us the money they
spent on these brochures instead of sending us the brochures.")
Her description of the literature she saw sounded- and still sounds- WAY off
base to me.
I'm sure you saw the other things I said about the Scn volunteers at ground
zero in that same reply...
C
Fluffygirl
"Beverly Rice" <dbj...@mpinet.net> wrote in message
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> ptsc wrote:
> > On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:39:47 -0600, "Fluffygirl"
<amaflu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >CofS does not put space ships and aliens
Guys, take a look at what was written:
"...some of the posters and flyers depicting space ships and aliens (with
comic book style graphics)"
Rocket ships are not space ships. Scn literature doesn't depict aliens.
(Maybe it should!! But it doesn't!)
And they don't use comic book style graphics in their pamphlets. Their
pamphlets are expensively done and slick. Really. And I'm not saying that
'cuz I think they're nifty. I don't. I've never enjoyed reading the
"promo". But I have noticed what it looks like and what it doesn't look
like.
While I think it's highly likely that CofS members acted in a rather "hey
look at me!" manner, and that this was what they were directed to do, and
while I think that these things were grossly inappropriate (as you might
recall I said in that previous reply) I'm certainly not going to refrain on
commenting on an inconsistency regarding the promotional material that lady
saw.
Item:
No aliens depicted in CofS brochures
Item:
Space ships are a bit different from rocket ships.
Item:
The only comic book style graphics I've EVER seen the church use are in the
picture books on some of the introductory courses or for sale for newbies
such as the basic Dianetics picture book
As much as I've not particularly liked or had an interest in their
promotional material, I've always noticed the slick commercial appearance it
has.
And I'm not the only one who has.
C
barb
sensationalistic, and unsophisticated. Much of it is certainly as lurid
as comic book art. There is much more to graphics than technical
ability. There is a certain taint of hysteria behind the message
Scientology art is meant to convey.
They also aren't very good at seeing how the wog world might view an
image. For example, the graphic on the billboard advertising the
Volunteer Minister scam.
The art is a shattered, hollow Earth, with supernatural hands holding
pieces of it. Everywog I've shown it to interprets it as the hands
breaking up the globe, not putting it back together. Scientology
advertising aimed at wogs makes about as much sense as dogs putting
together an ad campaign trying to sell humans on the benefits of
drinking toilet water.
> Her description of the literature she saw sounded- and still sounds- WAY off
> base to me.
>
> I'm sure you saw the other things I said about the Scn volunteers at ground
> zero in that same reply...
Yep I did. We are in agreement as to the ugly, opportunistic, predatory
promotion the cult seized to take advantage of that tragedy.
>
> C
ptsc
>"Beverly Rice" <dbj...@mpinet.net> wrote in message
>news:3C8134...@mpinet.net...
>> ptsc wrote:
>> > On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:39:47 -0600, "Fluffygirl"
><amaflu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >CofS does not put space ships and aliens
>Guys, take a look at what was written:
>"...some of the posters and flyers depicting space ships and aliens (with
>comic book style graphics)"
>Rocket ships are not space ships. Scn literature doesn't depict aliens.
>(Maybe it should!! But it doesn't!)
I'll concur with this one. I haven't seen any aliens as such--at least not in
promo. There is a guy in a space suit on one book (maybe Evolution of a
Science?), but even that isn't obviously an alien.
My impression, though, is that this is a general statement about impressions,
rather than a specific statement about things looked at closely. Scientology
promo gives off a very space opera vibe, and an alien really wouldn't be at all
out of place.
As for the previous comment (in a different article), promo from Flag and from
ASI, BPI, and RTC directly generally adheres to a pretty high production
quality--glossy paper, nicely rendered graphics, etc. with a general "look and
feel" that is pretty unique to the brand. However, promo from other smaller
orgs is often generated on a catch-as-catch-can basis, and some pretty amazing
crap still gets put together and distributed.
I also think it still sucks at getting its message across, no matter how well
produced it may be. My favorite example of this is the ad campaign with the
huge banner "GREAT LIES EXPOSED!" that then goes into an actor portraying en
"evil psych" ranting insanely, then goes to the Scientology logo and
information. It made it look like Scientology was the "great lie" and that the
ranting lunatic was a Scientologist. Scientology's portrayal of psychs is so
absolutely out-there loony that nobody else would recognize this person as a
psychiatrist. They've likely had experience with psychologists or psychiatrists
of some kind, and know them not to be demented, cackling nuts who seem like they
escaped from a B movie.
ptsc
John Dorsay
news:3c80...@news2.lightlink.com:
>> No one knew how they had gotten access and they were routed out
>> later that day. I had been moved to soul-depleting nausea when
>> I glanced at some of the posters and flyers depicting space
>> ships and aliens (with comic book style graphics)
>
> She must have either been looking at critic's brochures or those
> of another group.
>
> CofS does not put space ships and aliens and comic book style
> graphics on it's literature.
I can't comment on the space ships and aliens. But the cover "art"
on the some of the CCHRs antipsych nonsense could certainly be
described as "comic book style", IMO.
For example, http://www.cchr.org/art/eng/index.htm
--
"I have no clue what is really going on, so I have no idea what to
do."
Scientologist Phil Chitester
DilbertPerkins
no clear concept of messaging, branding or marketing. Depending on from which
part of the company (I hesitate to say "church") the stuff is produced,
everything has a different look. Bridge, all by itself, produces various styles
of artwork for its books, ads, mailings, etc. The literature and mailings for
Co$, ASOLA and CCHR all look as if they were produced by different hands
(albeit with the same low-level of inane content).
To this, I will add that the covers of their books almost never communicate the
contents. An exploding volcano is, to most people, nothing more than an
exploding volcano. The cover of an old History of Man I saw on ebay (1974) had
a badly-drawn picture of a caveman gnawing on a turkey leg(!) The only
Scientology book I ever saw that actually had a cover that worked was "All
About Radiation." Hubbard was not qualified to write such a title, but it
LOOKED good.
Dilbert Perkins
Los Angeles, CA
Caroline Letkeman
wrote:
>"Fluffygirl" <amaflu...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:3c80...@news2.lightlink.com:
>
>>> No one knew how they had gotten access and they were routed out
>>> later that day. I had been moved to soul-depleting nausea when
>>> I glanced at some of the posters and flyers depicting space
>>> ships and aliens (with comic book style graphics)
>>
>> She must have either been looking at critic's brochures or those
>> of another group.
>>
>> CofS does not put space ships and aliens and comic book style
>> graphics on it's literature.
---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---^---
>I can't comment on the space ships and aliens. But the cover "art"
>on the some of the CCHRs antipsych nonsense could certainly be
>described as "comic book style", IMO.
>
>For example, http://www.cchr.org/art/eng/index.htm
Or
http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/full.htm
http://www.keytolife.org/index.htm
http://www.bridgepub.com/Book/NFiction/dn/index.html
http://www.bridgepub.com/book/nfiction/study/index.html
http://www.bridgepub.com/catpg11.html
http://www.bridgepub.com/catpg15.html
http://www.bridgepub.com/catpg9.html
http://www.bridgepub.com/review/nfict/art/turnnpg1.htm
http://www.bridgepub.com/book/nfiction/scn/index.html
http://www.bridgepub.com/book/fiction/hor&fant/index.html
http://www.bridgepub.com/book/nfiction/ref/index.html
Comma.
Caroline
Beverly Rice
> http://www.bridgepub.com/book/nfiction/study/index.html
WOW!! Thanks for posting this URL, Caroline.
From the LRH books we had all the kids using, I got
the cover mixed up from the BSM (Basic Study Manual)
and the one for the younger children, Learning How
to Learn.
When I was talking about the story of Xenu being on
the cover of the BSM, what I should have correctly
said was the cover of Learning How to Learn.
As you can see demonstrated in the URL, it has the two
children sitting reading with the dinosaur in the
background, and you can see the space ship leaving
the planet heading towards Teegeeack (Earth) and
if you open the jacket, there is the volcano.
Sorry about the times I said it was the BSM . . .
it was Learning How To Learn.
The books are way over priced.
ARC = As-Ising the Real Cover,
Beverly
Thomas J Best
> A woman I know worked as a volunteer at Ground Zero in Manhattan five
> days after the 9/11 disaster. Below are her personal observations
> about the unauthorized presence of Scientologists at the official
> command center, and how she managed to get them booted out. I'm
> withholding her name to protect her from Scientology harassment of the
> sort we're all too familiar with.
>
> -- Dave Touretzky
>
<snip>
In light of this, and the details about the clams crowing
posted by ptsc below, I think I'm going to be sick.....
I'm gobsmacked. Totally lost for words. Just when you
think $cientologists can't get any more disgusting.....
tam
Caroline Letkeman
wrote:
It's even more disgusting than BSM--Learning How to Learn is done as
early as age 6 according to their own promo. Art work for these
publications is done at Int level; there is zero chance that it is
arbitrarily or unwittingly chosen at that echelon. Anyway, thanks for
pointing out the Xenu symbolism. Whew.
Caroline