Karen de la Carriere
Lagniappe
bidders on Ebay for the Fred Durks critic sites.
She may be doing this as an "effective blow to the enemy" amends
project. AFAIK she has not been on course or auditing for a very long
time.
Heber and Karen were married a very long time ago, I think she
was his third or 4th wife, I lost count.
She used to be in Sea Org Class XII and would travel all over the
world promoting and selling the "L"s , making lots $$ for Miscavige.
I am not sure what ever happened, but suddenly one day, she's not
Karen Jenztchs but she's Karen de la Carriere, artist living in a posh
neighborhood called Los Feliz in Los Angeles.
I always thought she was a bit crazy, sort of type III, but then again
a lot of "L"s cases were a bit off.
As today, she wears a lot of lipstick , heavy make-up, bleached dyed
hair and looks like cross between Tammy Faye and "Baby Jane" Betty
Davis. A class XII LOL!
Something was not normal about her then and now I see it confirmed by
those awful "glamour shot" photos on her disjointed website,
especially the gallery shots, ugh! :
http://members.aol.com/karendelac/
She lives in a very large expensive 5 bedroom? mansion and she rents
out the of the rooms to scientologists who come to LA for auditing or
business.
An eyewitness says the house was very creepy and eerie, almost like if
it was haunted, they felt very creeped-out and did not want to stay
for long. They said she had a lot of dogs living in the house and you
can imagine how that was.
Rick Pendery, Director of Second Chance, was one of those who used to
rent a room for her, they seemed to get along fine. Guess dog stench
and eerie spaces didn't bother him.
She is now selling expensive paintings on Ebay and buying 'intellectual
properties' for the Cof$ on ebay.
Lagniappe
Kilia
Larry T.
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She was in New York City a while back at the Flag World Tour event where I
met her and at that time she was still auditing at Flag {65 hours of WDAH
for L's each week} and had won the Flag Auditor of the Year Award. She was
personally trained by L. Ron Hubbard.
She did marry Heber Jentzsch, but I did not know there were divorced and
that is strange for a Class XII to be selling art in L.A. who was once L.
Ron Hubbard's "Auditor of the Year".
Anything like that would creep anybody out, not just you.
--
Lawrence
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/scientology/
Out_Of_The_Dark
Yes, I see a bit of Tammy Faye Baker but Karen's photos remind me
more so of a caucasian version of LaToya Jackson ;)
At least she looks more authentic than former scientologist
OT & Class XII flag auditor, Madeline Claire, who left CoS and became
a fulltime transvestite model. More from Madeline Claire
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/c87e3407d5dde89c
Definately something going on, personality wise but, heh, she lives in
La La land; Being married to Heber seems to have it's complications.
Karen de la Carriere has been selling the christian artist Thomas
Kinkade's originals and first edition prints for about 6 years now
and it may well be that this link to the real world is a saving grace
for her.
http://dart.fine-art.com/aqd-asp-im_83096-buy-m.htm
Reading her art site http://www.squidoo.com/thomas-kinkade/
made me wonder if she & Kinkade knew that Hubbard denied that a Jesus
Christ existed nor died on a cross/ Hubbard even made up a game he
claims is on the wholetrack, called 'The Christ Game' .
http://www.xenu.net/archive/multimedia.html
She is involved in her neighborhood watch and is also bird rescuer
and keeps a santuary in her home for them until they are healed.
http://www.squidoo.com/birdrescue/
Doesn't look like there's much time for Scientology in her schedule
and if that's the case, good for her. Probably suits her just fine.
barb
I would laugh my fuckin ass off when he returned the favor.
--
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Chaplain, ARSCCwdne
buy my book!
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read my blog!
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Skipper
<xxxxx...@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
If you want to see just how nuts she is, click on the Disclaimer on
that website and read that page. She's one of the very strangest people
I ever met in Los Angeles, and that's saying something.
Out_Of_The_Dark
>
> > Definately something going on, personality wise but, heh, she lives in
> > La La land; Being married to Heber seems to have it's complications.
>
> > Karen de la Carriere has been selling the christian artist Thomas
> > Kinkade's originals and first edition prints for about 6 years now
> > and it may well be that this link to the real world is a saving grace
> > for her.
> >http://dart.fine-art.com/aqd-asp-im_83096-buy-m.htm
>
> > Reading her art site http://www.squidoo.com/thomas-kinkade/
> > made me wonder if she & Kinkade knew that Hubbard denied that a Jesus
> > Christ existed nor died on a cross/ Hubbard even made up a game he
> > claims is on the wholetrack, called 'The Christ Game' .
> >http://www.xenu.net/archive/multimedia.html
>
> > She is involved in her neighborhood watch and is also bird rescuer
> > and keeps a santuary in her home for them until they are healed.
> >http://www.squidoo.com/birdrescue/
>
> > Doesn't look like there's much time for Scientology in her schedule
> > and if that's the case, good for her. Probably suits her just fine.
>
> She could give my Amazon a touch assist any day.
> I would laugh my fuckin ass off when he returned the favor.
>
> --
> barb
> Chaplain, ARSCCwdne
>
> buy my book!http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fAcctID=1198812
>
> read my blog!http://xenubarb.blogspot.com/ < < <
lol!
Larry T.
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Skipper:
OK.
But are you sure that this is not one of the "built in disclaimers" that
comes along with an AOL Hometown Web Site or is it really one she actually
concocted herself?
I read it, it sounded odd, but I did not think that a Class XII was capable
of writing such things. I sort of assumed that AOL puts that there for all
their members.
I do not have AOL or an AOL account so I would not know for sure.
--
Lawrence
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/scientology/
Skipper
<xxxxx...@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Larry, did you know that Bigfoot is real, and outside your house right
now? With a chupacabra under his arm?
bojangles
de la Carriere was NOT personally trained by LRH at all and she was
not "L.Ron Hubbard's Auditor of the Year", maybe she was auditor of
the year but the way you describe it is not accurate.
At any rate, I saw her pictures in her website and they are definitely
done with photoshop, she looks 25 to 35 years old but Karen's real age
is probably between 55-65 years old.
I wonder why is she so interested in the Fred Durk anti scientology
websites and what is she planning to do with them if she wins the bid.
Larry T.
I don't mean to sound naive, but then what a stupid "F***K* she is Skipper!
What a wierd group of things to write for someone who was trained by L. Ron
Hubbard personally! {excuse the French}.
Thanks for telling me.
--
Lawrence
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/scientology/
Larry T.
"bojangles" <bojan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Larry, I am sorry to inform you that your data is not correct; Karen
| de la Carriere was NOT personally trained by LRH at all and she was
| not "L.Ron Hubbard's Auditor of the Year", maybe she was auditor of
| the year but the way you describe it is not accurate.
|
| At any rate, I saw her pictures in her website and they are definitely
| done with photoshop, she looks 25 to 35 years old but Karen's real age
| is probably between 55-65 years old.
|
| I wonder why is she so interested in the Fred Durk anti scientology
| websites and what is she planning to do with them if she wins the bid.
Hi Bojangles.
You are right and you are wrong if I recall correctly.
I went to the Flag Class XII event at the Americana Hotel on 6th Avenue in
NYC WITH all the staff of the Org. The guest speaker for the evening was
Karen De La Carrier Flag Class XII. The emcee announced her as the Flag's
Auditor of the Year.{I forgot the emcee's name}.
When she was asked about this she said quote unquote "Last week I delivered
65 hours of L's". Shen then said "And LRH still trains all the Class XII's
himself". Was she lying? I apologize, she did not say she {being a Class
XII} was personally trained by L. Ron Hubbard she said "And LRH still trains
all the Class XII"s himself". "UNQUOTE"
Then she asked the audience if they would like some Class XII auditing, and
everyone screamed YEAH! One of the group auditing questions was "Give the
person next to you something you can't go home without.
Would you like to clarify?
--
Lawrence
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/scientology/
(SNIP)
Out_Of_The_Dark
> "Skipper" <skipspaml...@charter.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:260820072036313204%skipsp...@charter.invalid...
> | In article <46d2401...@news2.lightlink.com>, Larry T.| <xxxxxxx...@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> |
> | > "Skipper" <skipspaml...@charter.invalid> wrote in message
> | >news:260820071921538763%skipsp...@charter.invalid...
> | > | In article <46d2276...@news2.lightlink.com>, Larry T.
Larry, I love what you did on your new site!
Who is doing the singing? It's beautiful!
Larry T.
news:1188191554.1...@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
(SNIP)
| Larry, I love what you did on your new site!
|
| Who is doing the singing? It's beautiful!
|
Her name is Enya. She is Irish and is pictured here:
http://ink.primate.wisc.edu/~assay/enya.jpg
--
Lawrence
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/scientology/
Out_Of_The_Dark
> "Out_Of_The_Dark" <xscilentolog...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Thank you. The music is enchanting. Visitors will definately be more
comfortable reading the jarring Judge Leonie Brinkema memorandum
verifying that the classified scientology materials are about Xenu, OT
levels and body thetans :)
roger gonnet
news:20f3406b2ea2165b...@anon.mixmaster.mixmin.net...
>I see Heber's ex-wife, Karen de la Carriere was one of the
> bidders on Ebay for the Fred Durks critic sites.
>
> She may be doing this as an "effective blow to the enemy" amends
> project. AFAIK she has not been on course or auditing for a very long
> time.
>
> Heber and Karen were married a very long time ago, I think she
> was his third or 4th wife, I lost count.
so they are heavbily out-ethics on 2D, yes. Reminds me a trial from Heber
against one of his exes, declaring he got almost no pay, so, he could'nt pay
any alimony. That's also very responsible toward his kids, yes.
Reminds me too that our Gerry Armstrong was married with his first daughter.
They separated later. Scientology is a catastrophe for couples, 2D, kids and
families (in most cases).
>
> She used to be in Sea Org Class XII and would travel all over the
> world promoting and selling the "L"s , making lots $$ for Miscavige.
>
> I am not sure what ever happened, but suddenly one day, she's not
> Karen Jenztchs but she's Karen de la Carriere, artist living in a posh
> neighborhood called Los Feliz in Los Angeles.
>
> I always thought she was a bit crazy, sort of type III, but then again
> a lot of "L"s cases were a bit off.
>
> As today, she wears a lot of lipstick , heavy make-up, bleached dyed
> hair and looks like cross between Tammy Faye and "Baby Jane" Betty
> Davis. A class XII LOL!
>
> Something was not normal about her then and now I see it confirmed by
> those awful "glamour shot" photos on her disjointed website,
> especially the gallery shots, ugh! :
>
> http://members.aol.com/karendelac/
404...
Larry T.
The music is the the theme song from the movie "Gladiator" starring Russell
Crowe
--
Lawrence
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/scientology/
roger gonnet
news:260820071921538763%skipsp...@charter.invalid...
Lots upon lots of scientologists of high levels have left the core cult's
depts like DSA/OSA/Sea Org to starts some "successful" activity.
The purpose seems to prove that scientology management methods are great and
to infiltrate the society, with all these people "successful" in their jobs.
Problems is that most scientologists have no real talent, no real science to
develop good products, and even most of those who succeeded could have
without scientology, and perhaps better. Look, not one high level
international company... not one super rich except two actors ... the only
area where scientologists are better than average, probably since acting is
basically lying.
Larry T.
news:46d262ec$0$1463$79c1...@nan-newsreader-05.noos.net...
2 Actors?
Do you mean that one of them might be John Travolta?
You consider that acting?
Tom Cruise possibly might be the 2nd Joan Crawford but the other one, never.
--
Lawrence
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/scientology/
Eldon
> Larry, I am sorry to inform you that your data is not correct; Karen
> de la Carriere was NOT personally trained by LRH at all
How do you know she wasn't? She was on Flag as early as 1973, and was
a friend of Monica Pignotti. Probably she took the Class XII course
with Quentin or around the same time. See:
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/krasel/books/nine_lives.html#sea-org
That would probably put her age in the early- to mid-50s. Monica also
said Karen called and tried to get her back into Scientology in 1977.
Her website bio says she and Heber were married for 10 years and
"amicably divorced -- still friends."
Ralph Hilton
<1188193930.1...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>, :
>On Aug 27, 6:34 am, bojangles <bojangl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Larry, I am sorry to inform you that your data is not correct; Karen
>> de la Carriere was NOT personally trained by LRH at all
>
>How do you know she wasn't? She was on Flag as early as 1973, and was
>a friend of Monica Pignotti. Probably she took the Class XII course
>with Quentin or around the same time. See:
>http://www.whyaretheydead.net/krasel/books/nine_lives.html#sea-org
>
>That would probably put her age in the early- to mid-50s. Monica also
>said Karen called and tried to get her back into Scientology in 1977.
Karen did her Class 12 training after the first batch of L's auditors whom LRH
trained. She would have been C/Sed by David Mayo with Brian Livingstone as the
Intern Supervisor and Jeff Walker as Cramming Officer.
--
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Skipper
<xxxxx...@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
I never knew anyone who knew Hubbard personally and worked with him who
wasn't a little nuts. Even when I was in $cientology and working with
them, I wondered. Later I put all the pieces together. Any of us who
were ever in the cult were very naive at some point.
barb
> Larry, I am sorry to inform you that your data is not correct; Karen
> de la Carriere was NOT personally trained by LRH at all and she was
> not "L.Ron Hubbard's Auditor of the Year", maybe she was auditor of
> the year but the way you describe it is not accurate.
>
> At any rate, I saw her pictures in her website and they are definitely
> done with photoshop, she looks 25 to 35 years old but Karen's real age
> is probably between 55-65 years old.
>
> I wonder why is she so interested in the Fred Durk anti scientology
> websites and what is she planning to do with them if she wins the bid.
>
>
BOLD CAPITAL LETTERS and flashing text and planned to replace his text
with her own.
Strange...looking at her "glamor" shots, she seems to have only one
facial expression, the kind of smirk one practises in the mirror.
>> |
>> |
>> She is a Class XII.
>>
>> She was in New York City a while back at the Flag World Tour event where I
>> met her and at that time she was still auditing at Flag {65 hours of WDAH
>> for L's each week} and had won the Flag Auditor of the Year Award. She was
>> personally trained by L. Ron Hubbard.
>>
>> She did marry Heber Jentzsch, but I did not know there were divorced and
>> that is strange for a Class XII to be selling art in L.A. who was once L.
>> Ron Hubbard's "Auditor of the Year".
>>
>> Anything like that would creep anybody out, not just you.
>>
>> --
>> Lawrencehttp://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/scientology/
>
>
--
barb
Chaplain, ARSCCwdne
buy my book!
Hartley Patterson
> If you want to see just how nuts she is, click on the Disclaimer on
> that website and read that page. She's one of the very strangest people
> I ever met in Los Angeles, and that's saying something.
Eek! A candidate for
http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/
On the other hand she thinks Michael Moore in Un-American. Isn't that
automatic proof of sanity for some? :-)
--
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http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk
http://news-from-bree.blogspot.com
Skipper
Patterson <hpt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> skipsp...@charter.invalid:
>
> > If you want to see just how nuts she is, click on the Disclaimer on
> > that website and read that page. She's one of the very strangest people
> > I ever met in Los Angeles, and that's saying something.
>
> Eek! A candidate for
> http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/
>
> On the other hand she thinks Michael Moore in Un-American. Isn't that
> automatic proof of sanity for some? :-)
He stretches the truth to suit himself in his documentaries. On the
other hand, he gave birth to the documentary business with "Roger and
Me" - it really wasn't much before he got started.
What's a little nuts about Karen's site is that she's promoting Thomas
Kinkade and waving the American flag when most of her life career was
centered around working with a devotee of black magic (Hubbard) and
married to a former Mormon mouth-frother who grew up surrounded by
about a dozen mothers. Don't expect her to make a lot of sense.
barb
OH GAWD!
DON'T LOOK AT HER SERIES OF PIX "ON THE BEACH!"
My eyes are poisoned...ewww...kinda reminds me of Ruth Norman, it must
be the hair...
http://www.unarius.org/images/uriel01.jpg
--
barb "staggering blindly off to put niacin in her eyeballs"
Larry T.
"Skipper" <skipsp...@charter.invalid> wrote in message
OK.
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Eldon
> Skipper wrote:
> > In article <MPG.213d05628aa62b18989...@news.thundernews.com>, Hartley
> > Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> skipspaml...@charter.invalid:
>
> >>> If you want to see just how nuts she is, click on the Disclaimer on
> >>> that website and read that page. She's one of the very strangest people
> >>> I ever met in Los Angeles, and that's saying something.
> >> Eek! A candidate for
> >>http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/
>
> >> On the other hand she thinks Michael Moore in Un-American. Isn't that
> >> automatic proof of sanity for some? :-)
>
> > He stretches the truth to suit himself in his documentaries. On the
> > other hand, he gave birth to the documentary business with "Roger and
> > Me" - it really wasn't much before he got started.
>
> > What's a little nuts about Karen's site is that she's promoting Thomas
> > Kinkade and waving the American flag when most of her life career was
> > centered around working with a devotee of black magic (Hubbard) and
> > married to a former Mormon mouth-frother who grew up surrounded by
> > about a dozen mothers. Don't expect her to make a lot of sense.
>
> OH GAWD!
Well, here's the deal as I see it. Some people who live in LA manage
to maintain a high level of sanity or regain it once they get out of
Scientology.
Tory-Magoo and MIchael Pattinson being prime examples. Mark Bunker
being an example of someone who was never involved, lived in
Clearwater for awhile, and still came out OK.
Mileage may vary, and Skipper seems to be regaining equilibrium these
days. Let's see if he killfiles me or can at long last take a joke.
But... let's consider that there are two kinds of True Sea Org
Scientologists -- some live in Los Angeles, and some in occupied
Clearwater. No more real ships at sea, really. Just that asbestos
cruise thing.
>
> DON'T LOOK AT HER SERIES OF PIX "ON THE BEACH!"
I shouldn't have, but I did and found them disgusting. I agree that
bestiality pictures should not be allowed on the Internet or should at
least carry a warning.
> My eyes are poisoned...ewww...kindareminds me of Ruth Norman, it must
> be the hair...http://www.unarius.org/images/uriel01.jpg
>
> --
> barb "staggering blindly off to put niacin in her eyeballs"
> Chaplain, ARSCCwdne
>