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Dave Touretzky

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Feb 11, 2005, 2:47:22 AM2/11/05
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In an attempt to forestall the imminent collapse of the Buffalo Org,
some new recruiting measures have been put in place. They claim to be
active now on the campus of the State University of New York at
Buffalo. But how many SUNY Buffalo students don't know how to use
Google? I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.

No wonder Scientology hates the Internet.

-- Dave Touretzky: "More Buffalo stories coming soon."
http://PerkinsTragedy.org http://BuffaloScientologyInfo.com

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In a message dated 2/10/2005, cofs...@localnet.com writes:

Dear Scientologist,

Hello, my name is Jeff Carlson and I am the ED of the Church of Scientology
of Buffalo. I sending out this E-Mail in order to contact the OT's of the
EUS to let everyone know that the Buffalo Org is pushing hard on the
"straight up vertical" message from Chairman of the Board RTC. Our Org is
committed to becoming not only a Saint Hill Size Org but also an LRH, Ideal
Org. We have been pushing hard on the DIANETICS book sales. We are now set
up in the State University of Buffalo, which makes us the first Org in the
USA to do the New York Patter in a college and this is just the beginning of
what we are doing. We also just put a TV Billboard that will play our
Dianetics Ad for 10 seconds every 2 1/2 minutes which means that people of
Buffalo will see our message 4032 times a week for the next 13 weeks which
will be the largest amounts of ads done in one week ever!

This Org was put here by COB as most of you who were at the Maiden Voyage
2003 know. Right now I am reaching out in to the vast ban of OT's that we
have here in the EUS for potential Exec resources, Tech trained staff,
people with past staff experience or for someone willing to step up to the
plate and take the Message to Garica and build this Org up to Saint Hill
Size.

With regards to the article the Elbert Hubert wrote, LRH says, "It
demonstrates that there is a small amount of anxiety, then, on the subject
of trying to find a good man to employ".

Please call or e-mail me back with any questions.

ML, Jeff Carlson ED Buffalo

Church of Scientology Buffalo
836 Main Street
Buffalo, NY 14202

Phone: (716) 856-3910
Fax: (716) 853-6923
Email: cofs...@localnet.com

Website: www.scientology-buffalo.org

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Barbara Schwarz

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Feb 11, 2005, 7:41:25 PM2/11/05
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Dave Touretzky wrote:

Scientology orgs reaching out and disseminating the religion is not
infiltration. Infiltration is when non-Scientologists, people like
Touretzky, psyhciatric troll go in the org, tell that they are
Scientologists when in fact they are not. They infiltrate to cause
problems and to attack SCN later on what they themselves did wrong in
the orgs.

I am glad to help you think, Dave Touretzky, as you do not so well on
your own in this department.

Barbara Schwarz

Genesis

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Feb 12, 2005, 1:27:36 AM2/12/05
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"Dave Touretzky" <d...@cs.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:420c630a$1...@news2.lightlink.com...

> In an attempt to forestall the imminent collapse of the Buffalo Org,
> some new recruiting measures have been put in place. They claim to be
> active now on the campus of the State University of New York at
> Buffalo. But how many SUNY Buffalo students don't know how to use
> Google? I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.
>
> No wonder Scientology hates the Internet.
>
> -- Dave Touretzky: "More Buffalo stories coming soon."
> http://PerkinsTragedy.org http://BuffaloScientologyInfo.com
>
>
So this ED wants ots to fill exec positions and such.
Yet as I read before on this news group, Jeff is not
even clear.
Doesn't seem to make sense for ots to work under
someone who is not ot or clear himself.
Are not the ots suppose to be extremely able and
aware and have powers ?
So how could they work for someone who doesn't
even know what the ot levels are about or be as able as them ?
Is there something I am missing here ?

Genesis

Susan

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Feb 12, 2005, 3:33:31 AM2/12/05
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"Genesis" <genes...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:420d...@news2.lightlink.com...

>
> "Dave Touretzky" <d...@cs.cmu.edu> wrote in message
> news:420c630a$1...@news2.lightlink.com...
>> In an attempt to forestall the imminent collapse of the Buffalo Org,
>> some new recruiting measures have been put in place. They claim to be
>> active now on the campus of the State University of New York at
>> Buffalo. But how many SUNY Buffalo students don't know how to use
>> Google? I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.
>>
>> No wonder Scientology hates the Internet.
>>
>> -- Dave Touretzky: "More Buffalo stories coming soon."
>> http://PerkinsTragedy.org http://BuffaloScientologyInfo.com
>>
>>
> So this ED wants ots to fill exec positions and such.
> Yet as I read before on this news group, Jeff is not
> even clear.
> Doesn't seem to make sense for ots to work under
> someone who is not ot or clear himself.
> Are not the ots suppose to be extremely able and
> aware and have powers ?
> So how could they work for someone who doesn't
> even know what the ot levels are about or be as able as them ?
> Is there something I am missing here ?
>

Wouldn't you think that after all of this time that every mission and org
would be run with OTVIIIs? I mean really, don't they have the planet saving
tech to produce these folks and wouldn't it be only logical to put the most
able in these positions to continue to direct the cult's expansion on this
"prison planet" ?

Hello, am I missing something? I mean, don't they have ~the~ definitive
admin tech??

Go figure,

Susan

Dave Touretzky

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Feb 12, 2005, 5:22:21 AM2/12/05
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In article <TdadnaVjnr3...@comcast.com>,

Susan <enlighte...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Wouldn't you think that after all of this time that every mission and org
>would be run with OTVIIIs? I mean really, don't they have the planet saving
>tech to produce these folks and wouldn't it be only logical to put the most
>able in these positions to continue to direct the cult's expansion on this
>"prison planet" ?

Yes, Susan: they tried that in Buffalo. In late 2003, Jeff Carlson
was demoted to PES (Public Executive Secretary; a lowl-level position)
and some OT guy was brought in as the new ED (Executive Director) in
time for the grand opening of the new Buffalo Org, at which Miscavige
and Tom Cruise spoke.

He blew his post a few months later.

And Jeff Carlson was put back in the ED position.

Who else would want that job? Especially now, when the Org is in
crisis. Their stats have always been crappy, and the new building did
nothing to fix that, but they are now exploring whole new depths of
"crappy".

There's more to the Jeff Carlson story. February is "Buffalo Month"
here on ARS, and we're not even half-way through yet. So stay tuned.

-- Dave Touretzky: "What would Elron do?"
http://PerkinsTragedy.org http://BuffaloScientologyInfo.com

Genesis

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Feb 12, 2005, 9:58:48 AM2/12/05
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"Dave Touretzky" <d...@cs.cmu.edu> wrote in message
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I thought I read somewhere that years ago Jeff Carlson's mother
was a cult member also, but she blew the cult,
and was never handled. Wouldn't that make Jeff pts to her or
has he disconnected from her.

Genesis

jeff.ca...@gmail.com

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Nov 10, 2017, 11:47:34 AM11/10/17
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Can you please remove this chat about me, I am no longer a part of the Church and I am speaking out on You Tube now My Clarity After Scientology is my channel, please take this down.

f1l3m...@gmail.com

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Nov 11, 2017, 12:53:43 AM11/11/17
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Reap what you sowed decades earlier

Roger Larsson

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Nov 13, 2017, 11:40:43 AM11/13/17
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Can you please remove this chat about me, I am no longer a part of the Church and I am speaking out on You Tube now My Clarity After Scientology is my channel, please take me down.

What scientologists got wasn't money, power and fame, they got a cult leader making losers.

Anonymous

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Nov 14, 2017, 4:57:26 PM11/14/17
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In article <5415a28b-d607-415d...@googlegroups.com>
jeff.ca...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> On Friday, February 11, 2005 at 2:47:22 AM UTC-5, Dave Touretzky wrote:
> > In an attempt to forestall the imminent collapse of the Buffalo Org,
> > some new recruiting measures have been put in place. They claim to be
> > active now on the campus of the State University of New York at
> > Buffalo. But how many SUNY Buffalo students don't know how to use
> > Google? I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.
> >
> > No wonder Scientology hates the Internet.
> >
> > -- Dave Touretzky: "More Buffalo stories coming soon."
> > http://PerkinsTragedy.org http://BuffaloScientologyInfo.com
> >
> > ================================================================
> >
> > In a message dated 2/10/2005, cofs...@localnet.com writes:
> >
> > Dear Scientologist,
> >
> > Hello, my name is Jeff Carlson and I am the ED of the Church of Scientology
> > of Buffalo. ....
>
> Can you please remove this chat about me, I am no longer a part of the Church and I am speaking out on You Tube now My Clarity After Scientology is my channel, please take this down.

"Chat?" This is not "chat."

I suppose that it may be possible that the Google Groups people may
accede to your demand that your letter be removed from Google
Groups, but you will never remove your posting from USENET. USENET
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much traffic lately. On the third hand, USENET postings are
archived all over the world. So you might want to resign yourself
to living with the possibility that someone will see what a mistake
you were making in your life 12 years ago. I suspect that your
posting, which I've truncated above, will be around long after you
have ceased to be able to care about it.


Colonel Bleep <bl...@zerozeroisland.invalid>

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