Question for Stacy or any LMT person
Russ K
week?
If she did, do you know why, and can you fill me in?
Did Bob stop funding the law suit?
If he did, can you tell me why?
OK, so I have 4 questions. But they should be pretty easy and
straight forward, and answering them will clear up some of the
misconceptions here on ars.
I suppose if you don't answer, and if everyone at the LMT is "too
busy" to answer, then that's pretty much an answer, huh?
Thanks,
Rusty
JimDBB
>From: smash...@volcanomail.com (Russ K)
>Date: 9/12/01 8:23 PM Central
You fucking moron. In case you haven't noticed, there are more important
things going on. Try and get a grip on present time.
JImdbb
Emir
(JimDBB) wrote:
> You fucking moron. In case you haven't noticed, there are more important
> things going on. Try and get a grip on present time.
I agree entirely, Jim. To quote our friend, "Your post, OSAbot, tells us
soooo much about your character."
Emir Kaganovich
Firefly
"Emir" <emi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:emir_ak-1209...@dialup-63.215.114.13.dial1.chicago1.level3.net
...
He's just pining for the LMT DA crap that was taking over the ng. Probably
feels like a fish out of water now that people are talking about something
else.
Firefly
Rev. Norle Enturbulata
"Firefly" <Fir...@dusk.com> wrote in message
news:ewWn7.54815$123.1...@atlpnn01.usenetserver.com...
Well, Thursday's here too! Get those Stats up, Rondroids! Hurry! Hurry!
Russ K
are back here on ars BEING terrorists. I'll go back and listen to
your president reassure us that he's got it all under control.
I'll just save my questions for later.
Like your president, this disgusting act of terrorism and cruelty
offers the folks at LMT an "out"---no questions, no doubts, just keep
your eyes tuned to the telly.
I have two first cousins who are unaccounted for in NYC. I really
don't need you JimDBB, to remind me about what happened there. Of
course, if they're Scientologists, it's no loss, right?
Again, let me know when the statutes are up and I can ask questions
about the LMT again. Of course, there will be other reasons for it
being "wrong" that I ask anything. . .
Fuck you all.
smash...@volcanomail.com (Russ K) wrote in message news:<399e7ee7.01091...@posting.google.com>...
JimDBB
>From: smash...@volcanomail.com (Russ K)
>Date: 9/13/01 10:40 AM Central Daylight Time
snipped:>Again, let me know when the statutes are up and I can ask questions
>about the LMT again. Of course, there will be other reasons for it
>being "wrong" that I ask anything. . .
>Fuck you all.
Keep your TRs in, Russ. The LMT will be around for some time.
JImdbb
JimDBB
>From: smash...@volcanomail.com (Russ K)
>Someone email me when you're all finished talking about terrorism and
>are back here on ars BEING terrorists. I'll go back and listen to
>your president reassure us that he's got it all under control.
>I have two first cousins who are unaccounted for in NYC. I really
>don't need you JimDBB, to remind me about what happened there. Of
>course, if they're Scientologists, it's no loss, right?
>
Russ K has two cousins missing in NYC but all he can think of is harassing the
LMT on this ARS. Your cult has turned you into a pathetic rondroid.
JImdbb
David Cecere
Allow me to apologize for JimDBB's harsh reply. Everyone is stressed about the
NYC events and some show it in unpleasant ways.
As for your questions, see below.
On 12 Sep 2001 18:23:51 -0700, smash...@volcanomail.com (Russ K) wrote:
}Did Lisa McPhearson's[sic] aunt resign from the LMT Board of Directors last
}week?
According to Stacy Brooks' recent depo, Mrs. Liebreich did indeed resign from
the LMT board in late August.
}If she did, do you know why, and can you fill me in?
I don't know why. Stacy said she doesn't know why, although Teresa Summers said
she saw a letter of resignation from Mrs. Liebreich on Stacy's desk. Perhaps
we'll never know.
}Did Bob stop funding the law suit?
Yes he did.
}If he did, can you tell me why?
I don't know why. Maybe OSA finally ran him out of money. Whatever the reason, I
guess it's a "win" for the forces of "theta" in the universe. I'm confident that
the estate of the late Lisa McPherson will somehow obtain the funds required to
bring the suit to court in June.
}
}OK, so I have 4 questions. But they should be pretty easy and
}straight forward, and answering them will clear up some of the
}misconceptions here on ars.
I hope I helped.
}I suppose if you don't answer, and if everyone at the LMT is "too
}busy" to answer, then that's pretty much an answer, huh?
You have to be careful in how you interpret non-answers--it's a tricky business,
and makes one prone to jumping to wrong conclusions.
}Thanks,
}Rusty
No problem. I hope your cousins are okay. Will you please post here and let us
know if they're found, and if they're okay?
David
_____________________________________________________________________________
"Thinking is, or ought to be, a coolness and a calmness; and our poor hearts
throb, and our poor brains beat too much for that."--Herman Melville
PGP Public Key ID: 0x93249C95
Bob Minton
He was forced out of the LMT in February, 2000 for having engaged in a criminal
act and putting everbody in the LMT as well as the victims of Scientology at
risk. He was not the only one involved in the criminal activity but he was
the one who was unrepentent and unwilling to live up to a higher standard in
the future.
Bob Minton
Tigger
I suppose Mr. Minton means higher standard as in DA posts on former
friends who won't heed his advice and shudder into silence?
On second thought, maybe Minton is looking for a scapegoat.
Tigger
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I DON'T GIVE THEM HELL. I JUST TELL THEM THE TRUTH AND THEY THINK IT'S
HELL."'
Harry S. Truman (GIVE 'EM HELL, HARRY)
U. S. President
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
David Cecere
capacity. However, every answer in my post is publicly available information
contained in either original Usenet postings or published depositions of current
LMT employees. I figured Russ was behind on his reading so I answered his
questions.
What I'm most concerned about is Bob's willingness to prevaricate about me and
the events of early February 2000. Bob's angry at me for leaving and especially
angry that I disagreed with him on several occasions. Bob's leveraging the fact
that I'm unwilling to rebut his allegations. I' d really like to, but my
rebuttal would require me to reveal facts that would affect others. So be it.
I realize now that I've been angry too. I've been angered by what I've perceived
as my own failures and shortcomings as the LMT's executive director. I've been
angry that the LMT has devolved into a truncated organization bearing no
relation to what I'd envisioned in 1999. I'm angry at what I consider to be
serious errors on the part of LMT's current management.
I'm also angry that Bob is trying to shut me up. I have to take it
philosophically though. Rudyard Kipling's poem, If, comes to mind. If I'm lied
about, I won't deal in lies. I'll have to bear hearing the words I've spoken
twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools. Oh well, worse things have happened
at sea.
David
Tigger
see the similarities with the COS.
David C. was relating only what he knew and most of it was there for all
to see in posts of court documents by Mr. Minton. He was not implying
in any way that he was speaking for the LMT. When he did not know the
answer, he said so.
Apparently LMT considers itself the only SOURCE that has the right to
say any;thing about the LMT. And anyone else who dares to answer
questions, make suggestions or ask questions that are contrary to SOURCE
are considered "criminals" or "SP's". Who is the Source for LMT? Bob
Minton or Stacy Brooks?
Cheradenine Zakalwe
"Bob Minton" <b...@minton.org> wrote in message news:0df2qtg18jvdkca54...@4ax.com...
> Let me make one thing clear. David Cecere speaks for no one at the LMT.
> He was forced out of the LMT in February, 2000 for having engaged in a criminal
> act and putting everbody in the LMT as well as the victims of Scientology at
> risk. He was not the only one involved in the criminal activity but he was
> the one who was unrepentent and unwilling to live up to a higher standard in
> the future.
>
> Bob Minton
Wasn't there a guy named Jesse Prince who used to be a
high-ranking official in the Scientology organization, and who
claimed to know something about was going on in Scientology?
And wasn't Scientology's response something to the effect
that Jesse was a criminal who was unable to live up to the "high moral
standards" of Scientology, and who therefore should not be believed?
You owe me a new irony meter.
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Rod Keller
: "Bob Minton" <b...@minton.org> wrote in message news:0df2qtg18jvdkca54...@4ax.com...
: > Let me make one thing clear. David Cecere speaks for no one at the LMT.
: > He was forced out of the LMT in February, 2000 for having engaged in a criminal
: > act and putting everbody in the LMT as well as the victims of Scientology at
: > risk. He was not the only one involved in the criminal activity but he was
: > the one who was unrepentent and unwilling to live up to a higher standard in
: > the future.
: Wasn't there a guy named Jesse Prince who used to be a
: high-ranking official in the Scientology organization, and who
: claimed to know something about was going on in Scientology?
: And wasn't Scientology's response something to the effect
: that Jesse was a criminal who was unable to live up to the "high moral
: standards" of Scientology, and who therefore should not be believed?
:
: You owe me a new irony meter.
It looks to me as if yours was busted long ago if you didn't see the
intent of Bob's posting.
--
Rod Keller / rke...@voicenet.com / Irresponsible Publisher / Black Hat #1
Expert of the Toilet / CWPD Mouthpiece / Shelly Thompson in Drag
The Lerma Apologist / Merchant of Chaos / Vision of Destruction
Bigot of Mystery / OSA Patsy / Quasi-Scieno / Mental Bully / Killer Rod
JimDBB
>In the sunlight of morning, I took another look at this and I can now
>see the similarities with the COS.
>
>David C. was relating only what he knew and most of it was there for all
>to see in posts of court documents by Mr. Minton. He was not implying
>in any way that he was speaking for the LMT. When he did not know the
>answer, he said so.
>
>Apparently LMT considers itself the only SOURCE that has the right to
>say any;thing about the LMT. And anyone else who dares to answer
>questions, make suggestions or ask questions that are contrary to SOURCE
>are considered "criminals" or "SP's". Who is the Source for LMT? Bob
>Minton or Stacy Brooks?
>
>Tigger
I find it difficult to believe that with the trauma and tragedy that has
befallen this country, you people can think of nothing but hounding the LMT.
Pathetic.
JImdbb
kEvin
>: You owe me a new irony meter.
>It looks to me as if yours was busted long ago if you didn't see the
>intent of Bob's posting.
Mine must be on the fritz as well. What was the intent of Bob's
posting? It looked like a flame to me. (Not that I really object to
to the occasional flame on USENET, but if I missed something
I'd appreciate having it spelled out.)
===
kEvin
m...@manual-override.com
Rod Keller
You have to be kidding. Even with the part about getting kicked out for
not being ethical enough? It wasn't "ha-ha" funny, but I thought it was a
pretty amusing post.
Tigger
2001-09-14 12:11:26 PST wrote:
(snip)
>I find it difficult to believe that with the
> trauma and tragedy that has befallen
> this country, you people can think of
> nothing but hounding the LMT. Pathetic.
>JImdbb
Jim,
I find it difficult to believe taht you would call anyone a "fucking
moron" for asking questions. I also find it difficult to believe that
you would not find it difficult to accept another DA post from Bob
Minton, especially this one. Apparently you havve no difficulty with
Minton, Brooks and the LMT doing whatever they want, whenever they want
to whomever they want. You have come a long way since you left CAN.
Too bad it's been downhill.
Pathetic.
JimDBB
>JimDBB (jim...@aol.com)
>>I find it difficult to believe that with the
>> trauma and tragedy that has befallen
>> this country, you people can think of
>> nothing but hounding the LMT. Pathetic.
>I find it difficult to believe taht you would call anyone a "fucking
>moron" for asking questions. I also find it difficult to believe that
>you would not find it difficult to accept another DA post from Bob
>Minton, especially this one. Apparently you havve no difficulty with
>Minton, Brooks and the LMT doing whatever they want, whenever they want
>to whomever they want. You have come a long way since you left CAN.
>Too bad it's been downhill.
>Pathetic.
>
>Tigger
Come on, Tigger, what the hell has happened to you? This country has been
broadsided with a momentus trauma and tragedy and you and your friends can't
seem to think of anything but pecking away at Bob Minton, Stacy Brooks and the
LMT. Bob, Stacy and the LMT staff are doing tremendously important and
courageous work. The scientology cult is pulling out all of the stops to
destroy them. Perhaps, they have made mistakes. Most of us do. but they are
trying and against formidable odds. They could use some help. This endless
harangue from you and your friends is pointless and unproductive.
I'll overlook your 'downhill' remark. That is the type of thing that I get
from scientologists.
JImdbb
Tigger
From: Rod Keller (rke...@netaxs.com)
Date: 2001-09-14 10:41:01 PST Rod Keller wrote:
>Cheradenine Zakalwe
> (zak...@nym.alias.net) wrote:
>>: "Bob Minton" <b...@minton.org>
>> wrote in message news::
>>0df2qtg18jvdkca541icamrnjbicfafnaj@4
>>ax.com...
>>> Let me make one thing clear. David
>>> Cecere speaks for no one at the
>>> LMT. He was forced out of the LMT
>>> in February, 2000 for having engaged
>>> in a criminal act and putting
>> everbody in the LMT as : > well as the
>>> victims of Scientology at risk. He was
>> > not the only one involved in the
>>> criminal activity but he was the one
>>> who was unrepentent and unwilling
>>> to live up to a higher standard in the :
>> > future.
>> Wasn't there a guy named Jesse
>> Prince who used to be : a high-ranking
>> official in the Scientology :
>> organization, and who claimed to know
>> something : about was going on in
>> Scientology? And wasn't :
>> Scientology's response something to
>> the effect that : Jesse was a criminal
>> who was unable to live up to : the
>> "high moral standards" of Scientology,
>> and who : therefore should not be
>> believed?
>> You owe me a new irony meter.
>It looks to me as if yours was busted
> long ago if you didn't see the intent of
> Bob's posting.
Well Mr. Keller, perhaps yours is busted along with your critical
thinking ability. I agree that Minton's post walks, talks and smells
like pure scientology. The intent was to make David Cecere shudder into
silence.
If the LMT SOURCE doesn't want anyone to ask or answer questions THEY
SHOULD BE ANSWERING, perhaps one of them should get her/his butt out
here and SPEAK.
Tigger
P.S. You are a member of the LMT Board of Directors, aren't you? Do
you or the other members know what's going on?
--
Rod Keller / rke...@voicenet.com / Irresponsible Publisher / Black Hat
#1 Expert of the Toilet / CWPD Mouthpiece / Shelly Thompson in Drag The
Lerma Apologist / Merchant of Chaos / Vision of Destruction Bigot of
Mystery / OSA Patsy / Quasi-Scieno / Mental Bully / Killer Rod
Post a follow-up to this message
kEvin
>: Mine must be on the fritz as well. What was the intent of Bob's
>: posting? It looked like a flame to me. (Not that I really object to
>: to the occasional flame on USENET, but if I missed something
>: I'd appreciate having it spelled out.)
>You have to be kidding. Even with the part about getting kicked out for
>not being ethical enough? It wasn't "ha-ha" funny, but I thought it was a
>pretty amusing post.
Bob said:
"Let me make one thing clear. David Cecere speaks for no one at the
LMT. He was forced out of the LMT in February, 2000 for having engaged
in a criminal act and putting everbody in the LMT as well as the
victims of Scientology at risk. He was not the only one involved in
the criminal activity but he was the one who was unrepentent and
unwilling to live up to a higher standard in the future."
I don't see any mention of not being ethical enough. I saw an
accusation of criminal conduct which doesn't have any markers
to indicate a jest. I might have read it as satire if it weren't for
the "He was not the only one..." line, which wouldn't appear
in any Scientology[tm] material being satirized. That leads me to
believe the plain meaning, that David Cecere was forced out of the
LMT for alleged criminal activity which also involved others
still with the Trust.
===
kEvin
m...@manual-override.com
Deana M. Holmes
news:20010914151033...@mb-fu.aol.com:
> I find it difficult to believe that with the trauma and tragedy that
> has befallen this country, you people can think of nothing but hounding
> the LMT. Pathetic.
It's not pathetic that Bob is hounding David Cecere at this time????? Come
now, why the double standard?
Deana
mir...@sonic.net
JimDBB
>Date: 9/14/01 10:18 PM Central
>d...@aol.com (JimDBB) wrote in
>> I find it difficult to believe that with the trauma and tragedy that
>> has befallen this country, you people can think of nothing but hounding
>> the LMT. Pathetic.
>
>It's not pathetic that Bob is hounding David Cecere at this time????? Come
>now, why the double standard?
>
>Deana
>mir...@sonic.net
I don't know that Bob Minton is 'hounding' David Cecere at this time. I don't
know who David Cecere is or what his problem with the LMT is. Whatever it is,
he should take it up with them.
JImdbb
Tigger
Sat, Sep 15, 2001, 2:52am (CDT+5) Organization: JimDBB wrote:
>From: boobook...@webtv.net
> (Tigger)
>> Date: 9/14/01 9:08 PM Central
>>> JimDBB (jim...@aol.com)
>>> I find it difficult to believe that with
>>> the trauma and tragedy that has
>>> befallen this country, you people can
>>> think of nothing but hounding the
>>> LMT. Pathetic.
>> I find it difficult to believe that you
>> would call anyone a "fucking moron"
>> for asking questions. I also find it
>> difficult to believe that you would not
>> find it difficult to accept another DA
>> post from Bob Minton, especially this
>> one. Apparently you have no difficulty
>>Tigger
>JImdbb
Jim,
It really is disturbing what you are willing to overlook. You overlook
the fact that Minton did a nasty DA job on David Cecere at THIS TIME.
My post was in response to his. If his hadn't been posted, mine would
never have been posted. Cause and effect.
Hosea 8:7 - "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the
whirlwind…
Minton not only did a nasty DA job on Cecere, he sowed the seeds of
doubt about "criminals" at the LMT. How stupid can one man get?
Please DO NOT OVERLOOK the downhill remark. Think about it carefully. I
would hate to see you get caught in the undertow if the ship of Minton,
Brooks and Co. sinks.
Tigger
Rebecca Hartong
Apparently, Bob thought he was being funny. It's gotta make you wonder
when a person's "humor" can consistently be so out of touch with what the
majority of people are thinking and feeling.
JimDBB
>Date: 9/14/01 11:49 PM Central
JImdbb wrote:>> Come on, Tigger, what the hell has
>whirlwind=85
>
>Minton not only did a nasty DA job on Cecere, he sowed the seeds of
>doubt about "criminals" at the LMT. How stupid can one man get?
>
>Please DO NOT OVERLOOK the downhill remark. Think about it carefully. I
>would hate to see you get caught in the undertow if the ship of Minton,
>Brooks and Co. sinks.
>
>Tigger
You know what...I give up. You go right on and keep sniping away at the LMT.
that is really important work. I'm sure that Diane R will rejoin you shortly.
Jimdbb
Tigger
threatening to call her employer and "outing" people who prefer to post
anonymously. That's really important work.
Don't you find it a little hard to breathe with your head buried in the
sand?
Tigger
JimDBB
>From: boobook...@webtv.net (Tigger)
>And you know what Jim? You keep on snipping at Diane Richardson and
>threatening to call her employer and "outing" people who prefer to post
>anonymously. That's really important work.
Anybody who falsely accuses me of crimes will answer for it. Anyone who drags
someone I know...someone who is not involved with the ARS, onto the ARS and
accuses, falsely, that person of collusion in a criminal plot to infiltrate
CAN, will answer for it It is as simple as that. Persons who post anonymously
should be careful of what they post if they want to stay anonymous. You were
involved with CAN and I am surprised that you would be supporting the dreadful
Diane R and her hateful postings.
Jimdbb
Tigger
Well, it would depend upon your definition of "hateful postings". I
consider "hateful" postings to be personal attacks to distract and take
the focus away from the real issue. You seem to think that asking
Minton and the LMT any question is "hateful".
Yes, I think many of Diane's postings have been hateful in the past
because of the personal rhetoric. But who got into the name calling
first?
I don't know enough about the CAN spy issue. I have seen, since I have
been here, very little credible evidence to support either side,
although I do think Jolie probably was a spy for COS. What I have seen
is Diane slashing at you and you slashing at her and numerous others
ganging up on her with personal attacks. And you seem to be the one
wanting to shut her up, not the other way round. Some of your posts
make sense and so do some of hers. But when you or she start the
personal knife throwing, who could consider any of it credible?
Lately, her posts have not been "hateful". But yours continue to be
whenever you see one of her posts and respond to it.
Both of your claims, yours that she is accusing you of crimes and hers,
that you are stalking her (if that's what these claims really are) seem
to equal out in the wash. So I am not "supporting" her "hateful posts"
and I am not "supporting" your "hateful posts" either.
Nor am I supporting Bob Minton's "hateful posts" which are the cream of
the crop. Cynthia Kisser would never do what you, Diane or Minton have
done. (And probably not what I am doing either, asking a "supposed"
"friend" to answer questions in a public forum and drawing certain
conclusions when he doesn't. ) But do you honestly believe he would
answer me if I asked him in private? Heck the Board of Directors don't
even know what's going on.
Cynthia would not, like Minton, be making asinine jokes (if that is what
they really are) to confuse the issue and hand COS fodder for its
propaganda machine. She would not refuse to answer questions about
issues that need to be cleared up.
(I know you think she should speak up about this "CAN SPY", but CAN, as
we knew it, no longer exists and she is no longer its executive
director.
Whether he is or not, Minton is considered to be the LMT. How he
conducts himself and what he says is crucial to its credibility.
Stabbing former friends and employees in the back, publicly declaring
anyone and everyone who pisses him or Stacy off to be an "enemy", using
foul language, and mocking up ridiculous stories, jokes, threats,
whatever, you must agree, make him and the LMT look less than credible.
You were involved with CAN and I am surprised you would be supporting
such behavior.
Tigger
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001, 7:19pm (CDT+5) From: jim...@aol.com (JimDBB)
wrote:
> From: boobook...@webtv.net
> (Tigger)
> Jimdbb
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
JimDBB
>Well, it would depend upon your definition of "hateful postings". I
>consider "hateful" postings to be personal attacks to distract and take
>the focus away from the real issue. You seem to think that asking
>Minton and the LMT any question is "hateful".
Goodbye, Tigger. this relentless babble makes no sense.
Jimdbb
Tigger
>From: boobook...@webtv.net
> (Tigger)
>Date: 9/15/01 5:49 PM Central
>>Well, it would depend upon your
>> definition of "hateful postings". I
>> consider "hateful" postings to be
>> personal attacks to distract and take
>> the focus away from the real issue.
>> You seem to think that asking Minton
>> and the LMT any question is "hateful".
> Goodbye, Tigger. this relentless babble
> makes no sense.
> Jimdbb
Goodby Jim.
I am sorry you feel that way, but your double standard makes no sense.
I will continue to send your granddaughter a little something once in a
while. I am assuming that the address on the thank you note I received
from your daughter-in-law is correct???
Tigger
Tigger
Sep 16, 2001, 1:01am (CDT+5) From: jim...@aol.com (JimDBB) wrote:
>From: boobook...@webtv.net
> (Tigger)
>Date: 9/15/01 5:49 PM Central
>>Well, it would depend upon your
>> definition of "hateful postings". I
>> consider "hateful" postings to be
>> personal attacks to distract and take
>> the focus away from the real issue.
>> You seem to think that asking Minton
>> and the LMT any question is "hateful".
> Goodbye, Tigger. this relentless babble
> makes no sense.
> Jimdbb
Goodby Jim.
JimDBB
>> Goodbye, Tigger. this relentless babble
>> makes no sense.
>
>> Jimdbb
>
>Goodby Jim.
>
>I am sorry you feel that way, but your double standard makes no sense.
>
>I will continue to send your granddaughter a little something once in a
>while. I am assuming that the address on the thank you note I received
>from your daughter-in-law is correct???
>
>Tigger
Yes that address is correct and your ongoing support and contributions for my
grandaughter, Kaitlyn, is most admirable and much appreciated. For you and
others who have helped and have been interested, Kaitlyn is holding her own.
She has been going through regular chemo treatments and she is quite resilient.
Her tumors have mainly shrunk and they are considering ending the chemo early.
Infact, they are meeting today about it. She has been able to have more
visitors and play more with neighborhood kids which she could not do before
because of low blood count. I truly believe that everyones prayers and kind
thoughts have helped her.
Please don't let our momentary disagreement get in the way of our friendship
and mutual respect.
Jim Beebe
Starshadow
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That, Jim, I never would do. Kaitlyn is still on my prayer list.
Thanks for the update.
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Bright Blessings,
Starshadow, KoX, SP4 with clam cluster, Official Wiccan Chaplain
ARSCC(wdne)
"Hubbard is a dead fat fraud who started a "religion" to make money,
and Miscavige is a wheezing dwarf who
makes insane outbursts about public buggery in court. There are no
OTs , and Xenu rules." That should be good for -25 stats points,
right OSA?
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Android Cat
I'm glad to hear that Jim. I was thinking about her yesterday. When I
light my candle tonight, I'll be thinking of her. I'll be thinking of
the lost ones in New York too, but after a week, they will need a
miracle.
Ron Sharp.