What Happened To Tony Hitchman?
Magoo
for the Church <Gack> of Scientology, Int. He was the last person (or maybe
the only person) to be on Film in his Interview with Hubbard.
Recently Reed Slatkin, Top Scientology "OT" was busted for "The biggest
Ponzi Scheme in History" ...having ripped off
$600 Million Dollars. See: www.SlatkinFraud.com for more info.
Apparently Reedie spilled the beans on Tony....and now Tony is out of the
country?
Is this for real? Does anyone know where Tony Hitchman actually is? Is he
still a Scientologist?
I doubt Reed is. He's spending the next 14 years in Prison, and even though
his "Church"/Scientology got a ton of that money in Donations, they totally
turned on him, and declared him an SP.
Ahhhh what a "Church".
Amazing to see such high ranking Scientologists gone soooo south.
What happened to their glorious "Ethics"? Reed and Tony were both on OT 7!
Do you ~~honestly~ believe it's just that they didn't have "The Golden Age
of Tech"?
I know people "in" will think, "Well....that's just a few people".
Actually, there's more than meets the eye.
Study up: www.xenu.net
and
www.lermanet.com
and
www.altreligionscientology.org
and
www.xenutv.com
Find our for yourself.
Tory/Magoo!
Roland
by the Church for PR purposes? I've seen a video tape of this interview. I
said I thought it seemed a bit artificial but I was assured that it was a
real interview from a known journalist. This is the only official recording
they have of L. Ron Hubbard being interviewed, I think. Is that right? Maybe
they could sell copies of "The Shrinking World of L. Ron Hubbard" in its
place, where he was interviewed on the Apollo. So come on you Scientologists
out there. Don't despair just because a couple of OT 7's turned out to be
fraudsters and one of them gave the only official interview with L. Ron
Hubbard. Watch this instead:
http://xenutv.bogie.nl/int/shrinkingworld.htm
"Magoo" <Mag...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3f60...@news2.lightlink.com...
ptsc
<rol...@rashleigh-berry.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>Is this the Tony Hitchman who interviewed L. Ron Hubbard on film and is used
>by the Church for PR purposes? I've seen a video tape of this interview. I
Yes, it is.
>said I thought it seemed a bit artificial but I was assured that it was a
>real interview from a known journalist. This is the only official recording
>they have of L. Ron Hubbard being interviewed, I think. Is that right? Maybe
>they could sell copies of "The Shrinking World of L. Ron Hubbard" in its
>place, where he was interviewed on the Apollo. So come on you Scientologists
>out there. Don't despair just because a couple of OT 7's turned out to be
>fraudsters and one of them gave the only official interview with L. Ron
>Hubbard. Watch this instead:
>http://xenutv.bogie.nl/int/shrinkingworld.htm
The Tony Hitchman video is boring as hell. One legend about it is that Tony
Hitchman was a journalist who interviewed Hubbard, and was so impressed after
that interview that he promptly went and joined Scientology.
This is complete rubbish. He was, in fact, a Scientologist at the time of the
interview and it was completely staged.
--
Home of the Buttersquash Conspiracy http://buttersquash.net
Cerridwen
>Apparently Reedie spilled the beans on Tony....and now Tony is out of the
>country?
>
Yes, Tony bagged ass to South Africa.
>Is this for real? Does anyone know where Tony Hitchman actually is? Is he
>still a Scientologist?
Yes, he is still a Scientologist In Good Standing and my understanding is that
he has all his Scn friends completely hoodwinked. ( no surprise there)
>
>I doubt Reed is. He's spending the next 14 years in Prison, and even though
>his "Church"/Scientology got a ton of that money in Donations, they totally
>turned on him, and declared him an SP.
>Ahhhh what a "Church".
Reed committed the ultimate "overt". He brought bad PR to the C of S.
They hate that more than anything else.
>
>Amazing to see such high ranking Scientologists gone soooo south.
>What happened to their glorious "Ethics"? Reed and Tony were both on OT 7
>Do you ~~honestly~ believe it's just that they didn't have "The Golden Age
>of Tech"?
Tony Hitchman originally attested to OT 8 in the Fall of 1989 and then RE attested
to OT 8 in the Spring of 2002. So he is a GAT OT 8.
I am sure that no Scner believes that Tony could be a criminal. That would be such a
big flap. Tony Hitchman being exposed as Reed's right hand man would make
a lot of cracks in the Scn Indoc for many people.
The Scns would think: How could an OT 8 get through all those sec checks
and still be hiding a crime? I know I used to think that way. But not any more!
My understanding is that Reed was an OT 5 and hadn't done any services
in over 10 years. Reed is not in HORTON (the name of our database) for any OT level
but we still have 30 or so Issues of Source Mag to go. I don't think he is going to
show up in HORTON for the OT levels either which mean he did his OT levels at
AOLA prior to Sept of 1994 or he did them in Europe.
Cerri
"Critical thinking demands we question the unproven, not that
we meekly accept it." Diane Richardson
For Stats on Scn go to: http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/
For News on Scientology go to: http://www.scientologywatch.org
Magoo
Cerridwen <Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
news:J3W4L0IU3787...@anonymous.poster...
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, "Magoo" <Mag...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>
> >Apparently Reedie spilled the beans on Tony....and now Tony is out of the
> >country?
> >
>
> Yes, Tony bagged ass to South Africa.
>
>
>
> >Is this for real? Does anyone know where Tony Hitchman actually is? Is he
> >still a Scientologist?
>
>
> Yes, he is still a Scientologist In Good Standing and my understanding is
that
> he has all his Scn friends completely hoodwinked. ( no surprise there)
Bawk! I'm not sure re "All" his old 'friends'....as remember what the
Class 8 told me about "Many of the "OT's" are now out for good, while
staying in, and way more than you know, Tory, reading ARS!" (Hence the
constant attempts to Black PR the critics, recently).
>
>
> >I doubt Reed is. He's spending the next 14 years in Prison, and even
though
> >his "Church"/Scientology got a ton of that money in Donations, they
totally
> >turned on him, and declared him an SP.
> >Ahhhh what a "Church".
>
> Reed committed the ultimate "overt". He brought bad PR to the C of S.
> They hate that more than anything else.
Ya....I'd love to hear their "Handle" re old Reedie boy. There comes a
time where you just ask yourself, "How can ALL of these people who were SO
well thought of while "in", suddenly, overnight be declared such enemies of
C of S? I know...I bought it for years, but I will say each time it gets a
little weirder.
Some of the big cracks for me were:
--The huge departure by MANY "OL's" (Opinion Leaders) and Mission Holders in
the
early '80's.
--David Mayo (Senior C/S of the Planet, and LRH's Auditor and right hand
tech man, Declared SP!)
--Ivan Obilinsky: AOLA's CO (Commanding Officer)
---Many of Hubbard's own Staff
---ALL of Yvonne Jenche's (CO of Celebrity Center) kids left and were
declared. These kids worked as DM's right hand people,
and again, over night were "Bad horrible people". Ya...sure.
-- Bonnie and Bruce Bishop...Executive Director and Founder of
Apple School: Declared SP's.
-- The Founder and Head of Delphi declared SP
-- The Founder of Narconon: Declared SP
---Hubbard dying and it annouced "Pat and Annie Broker will be
taking over the Church" but they are blasted out, never to be
seen again and old David Miscavige moves right in as Head of
C of S.
--- the ENTIRE Corporate Structure of C of S shifted around
"To fool them and keep Wallershiem or anyone else from
getting our money". Who was I/C of That? Oh ya.....the
now head of C of S, which suddenly exists no longer? DOH!
--Oh God...the list goes on and on and on.......But you get the point.
Each time these people leave, who were SO high up, and SO well thought of
who had spent years helping Hubbard and Scientology, are declared SP, it
sinks in: What did they miss? How can this be?
>
> >
> >Amazing to see such high ranking Scientologists gone soooo south.
> >What happened to their glorious "Ethics"? Reed and Tony were both on OT 7
> >Do you ~~honestly~ believe it's just that they didn't have "The Golden
Age
> >of Tech"?
>
>
> Tony Hitchman originally attested to OT 8 in the Fall of 1989 and then RE
attested
> to OT 8 in the Spring of 2002. So he is a GAT OT 8.
Amazing! This I didn't know. Well...that Shoots ~that~ one
(Well, they never did Golden Age of Tech: GAT) right in the foot, once
again.
>
> I am sure that no Scner believes that Tony could be a criminal. That
would be such a
> big flap. Tony Hitchman being exposed as Reed's right hand man would make
> a lot of cracks in the Scn Indoc for many people.
True....and no doubt most have no clue of the Facts, as always.
>
> The Scns would think: How could an OT 8 get through all those sec checks
> and still be hiding a crime? I know I used to think that way. But not
any more!
Well..since I was OT 7, and my husband was an OT 8 and both very screwed
up, I didn't think, "How could anyone get through all those sec checks" as I
knew tons of people who were getting sec checked every 6-months, and were
getting worse and worse.
However, I ~did~ begin to think......HUH? Just what IS going on here? Where
is this "glorious OT" state? I didn't see it anywhere around me, with
myself, my husband, or my many supposed "OT" friends. I began writing it up
to RTC early on, telling them, "This isn't working". "I Feel like a being
trapped inside of an iceburg as big as the Grand Canyone, trying to use a
toothpick to get out" (True story!). Their response? "Continue OT 7".
BARF!!!
However, you are probably right, re 'Criminals'....for some time I thought
that way, until my Class 8 auditor, Bill Yaude, asked me to join OSA Int in
secretly doing ~boarderline~ criminal actions.
www.lermanet.com/cos/toryonosa.htm
Once I connected the dots, I soon after left C of S forever.
>
> My understanding is that Reed was an OT 5 and hadn't done any services
> in over 10 years. Reed is not in HORTON (the name of our database) for any
OT level
> but we still have 30 or so Issues of Source Mag to go. I don't think he
is going to
> show up in HORTON for the OT levels either which mean he did his OT levels
at
> AOLA prior to Sept of 1994 or he did them in Europe.
Interesting.....well...he sure was AROUND the Sandcastle, hustling $$$ from
the OT 7's. I thought sure he was on the level, he had so many people
talking about "My money is with
REEEEEEEEEEEEEED!" When he lost the case, I made a sign like that and
picketed a Scio Event at the Shrine.
On the other side I wrote:
REED SLATKIN RIPS OFF $600 Million Dollars!
BIGGEST PONZI SCHEME IN HISTORY
History repeats itself, over and over and over...and daily more and more of
the "OT's" are getting it. Thank you for all of your help in posting "the
real stats". It helps!
All the best to you,
Tory/Magoo!
Cerridwen
>Some of the big cracks for me were:
>--The huge departure by MANY "OL's" (Opinion Leaders) and Mission Holders in
>the
> early '80's.
>--David Mayo (Senior C/S of the Planet, and LRH's Auditor and right hand
>tech man, Declared SP!)
>--Ivan Obilinsky: AOLA's CO (Commanding Officer)
>---Many of Hubbard's own Staff
>---ALL of Yvonne Jenche's (CO of Celebrity Center) kids left and were
>declared. These kids worked as DM's right hand people,
> and again, over night were "Bad horrible people". Ya...sure.
>-- Bonnie and Bruce Bishop...Executive Director and Founder of
> Apple School: Declared SP's.
>-- The Founder and Head of Delphi declared SP
Alan Larson, OT 8, is the Founder of Delphi. He is still listed as the founder
on their website, which makes me think he has not been declared because
declared SPs "disappear" from Scn history. Do you have specific information
that Alan has been declared?
>-- The Founder of Narconon: Declared SP
Willie Benitez was the founder of Narconon. I don't believe he
was ever a Scientologist and he was never declared. He is still
listed as the Founder on the Narconon website.
>
>Interesting.....well...he sure was AROUND the Sandcastle, hustling $$$ from
>the OT 7's. I thought sure he was on the level, he had so many people
>talking about "My money is with
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEED!" When he lost the case, I made a sign like that and
>picketed a Scio Event at the Shrine.
> On the other side I wrote:
>REED SLATKIN RIPS OFF $600 Million Dollars!
> BIGGEST PONZI SCHEME IN HISTORY
Sounds like fun ;)
>
>History repeats itself, over and over and over...and daily more and more of
>the "OT's" are getting it. Thank you for all of your help in posting "the
>real stats". It helps!
My pleasure :-)
Ed
Cerridwen wrote:
>
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, "Magoo" <Mag...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >Some of the big cracks for me were:
> >--The huge departure by MANY "OL's" (Opinion Leaders) and Mission Holders in
> >the
> > early '80's.
> >--David Mayo (Senior C/S of the Planet, and LRH's Auditor and right hand
> >tech man, Declared SP!)
> >--Ivan Obilinsky: AOLA's CO (Commanding Officer)
> >---Many of Hubbard's own Staff
> >---ALL of Yvonne Jenche's (CO of Celebrity Center) kids left and were
> >declared. These kids worked as DM's right hand people,
> > and again, over night were "Bad horrible people". Ya...sure.
> >-- Bonnie and Bruce Bishop...Executive Director and Founder of
> > Apple School: Declared SP's.
> >-- The Founder and Head of Delphi declared SP
>
> Alan Larson, OT 8, is the Founder of Delphi. He is still listed as the founder
> on their website, which makes me think he has not been declared because
> declared SPs "disappear" from Scn history. Do you have specific information
> that Alan has been declared?
>
I'm pretty sure that in the early 80s he was screwed over
and declared, but then he has obviously groveled his way back in order
to get to OT 8 at some point later. So you're both right, declared and
not declared.
Ed
Magoo
"Cerridwen" <Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, "Magoo" <Mag...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>
> >Some of the big cracks for me were:
> >--The huge departure by MANY "OL's" (Opinion Leaders) and Mission Holders
in
> >the
> > early '80's.
> >--David Mayo (Senior C/S of the Planet, and LRH's Auditor and right hand
> >tech man, Declared SP!)
> >--Ivan Obilinsky: AOLA's CO (Commanding Officer)
> >---Many of Hubbard's own Staff
> >---ALL of Yvonne Jenche's (CO of Celebrity Center) kids left and were
> >declared. These kids worked as DM's right hand people,
> > and again, over night were "Bad horrible people". Ya...sure.
> >-- Bonnie and Bruce Bishop...Executive Director and Founder of
> > Apple School: Declared SP's.
> >-- The Founder and Head of Delphi declared SP
>
> Alan Larson, OT 8, is the Founder of Delphi. He is still listed as the
founder
> on their website, which makes me think he has not been declared because
> declared SPs "disappear" from Scn history. Do you have specific
information
> that Alan has been declared?
No...it's NOT Alan Larson. I forget the guys name, but he was the ~actual~
originator of Delphi. Was it Martin Samuals>? I think he and Alan orginally
began it.
I know I spoke with a few original Delphi members when I had a horrible
experience with the "Exec's" doing some really bad things, and the older
staff member said, "That's Martin left over stuff" Her view was he was an
SP, and left many suppressive things for the staff to work out.
Martin is declared, and now Alan runs it...and of course has wiped out the
first guys name altogether.
I'm pretty sure it was Martin, but if anyone else knows for sure, please
post it here.
Tory/Magoo!