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Kristi Wachter

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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Browsing in a used bookstore yesterday, I came across a copy of "Tell It
Like It Is! A Course in Scientology Dissemination". It was only $5, so I
bought it.

This book, by Peter F. Gillham, is one of the books that was banned from
Scientology bookstores. That is, for many years, this book and other books
by Scientologists were sold in Scn bookstores, but shortly after Hubbard
died, Miscavige banned the stocking and sale of all such books. (Thanks
for posting that order, Warrior!)

Incidentally, according to that order, TILII and other banned books lacked
issue authority. However, this book says, right on the copyright page,
under the copyright info, "Permission for Publication Granted by Issue
Authority, Flag." I'm sure issue authority could have been withdrawn, but
it looks like Gillham DID have it at one time.

The copy I have is Copyright 1972 - BY L. RON HUBBARD!

The book is dedicated to "Peter, Terri and Janis Gillham." I'm assuming,
then, that the author's son was Peter Jr. Would that be the person listed
in the official Enemies List? -

GILLHAM, DOREEN SMITH
GILLHAM, PETER JR.

If so, anyone know why he was declared? Anyone know who Doreen is and why
she was declared? Anyone know if Peter Sr. is still in?

Since this book is not Source, there's probably not much point in quoting
any of it here on a.r.s., but if anyone has any questions about its
contents, please feel free to ask me here or in email.

One interesting aside on the subject of Clears and perfect memory: On the
title page, Peter Gillham indicates that he's OT VII Class VIII. However,
in the Conclusion on p. 76, he says, "L. Ron Hubbard made a statement
about perfection which has helped me considerably over the years since I
first read it. ... I do not recall the exact words, but I will duplicate
the meaning as follows:" -

Despite his perfect memory, he couldn't remember a Hubbard quote.
Apparently, he couldn't be bothered to look it up, either.

By the way, if you're interested in used books - tech or anything else - I
encourage you to check out Bibliofind (www.bibliofind.com). Bibliofind
lets you search the inventory of lots of different used book sellers
around the world. For example, you can find various tech and admin volumes
for $15-20 each. (The local bookstore where I found the Gillham book had a
few admins and all the tech, but wanted $40+ per volume.)


Kristi

(who prefers Aaron Neville's version (and even Heart's remake) over Peter
Gillham's)

--
Kristi Wachter
the activist formerly known as "Jour" (before $cientology outed me)

I think $cientology is hurting people and breaking the law, and I
want them to stop it. See http://www.scientology-lies.com for more.
Can you say "Xenu?" ... I knew that you could.

LR1467

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Nov 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/2/98
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Kristi wrote:

>
>If so, anyone know why he was declared? Anyone know who Doreen is and why
>she was declared? Anyone know if Peter Sr. is still in?
>
>

Does anyone know if Teri Gillham is still in?

LR

Jeaux

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Nov 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/2/98
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In their next life Scientologists will thank me, but I wish they'd refund me
in this life.
LR1467 wrote in message <19981102015924...@ng138.aol.com>...

Peter Gillham was still in through 1995, living next to my Scieno friend (a
former CIA operative) who still owned an UZI!

Peter ran the vitamin store named after him for several years. Don't know
anything after I became evil and left in 1995. :0)

David

Warrior

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Nov 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/2/98
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In article <humanrights-01...@racer.vip.best.com>,
human...@racerrecords.com says...

>
>Browsing in a used bookstore yesterday, I came across a copy of "Tell It
>Like It Is! A Course in Scientology Dissemination". It was only $5, so I
>bought it.
>
>This book, by Peter F. Gillham, is one of the books that was banned from
>Scientology bookstores. That is, for many years, this book and other books
>by Scientologists were sold in Scn bookstores, but shortly after Hubbard
>died, Miscavige banned the stocking and sale of all such books. (Thanks
>for posting that order, Warrior!)

You're very welcome, Kristi!

Peter used to have a Scientology mission in Arizona, in Phoenix, if I
recall correctly. At one time, he was married to Yvonne. Yvonne later
married Heber Jentzsch, the current President of CSI. Yvonne was the
Commanding Officer (the Sea Org title given to the Executive Director)
of Celebrity Center Los Angeles for a few years during the early to mid-
70s.

>Incidentally, according to that order, TILII and other banned books lacked
>issue authority. However, this book says, right on the copyright page,
>under the copyright info, "Permission for Publication Granted by Issue
>Authority, Flag." I'm sure issue authority could have been withdrawn, but
>it looks like Gillham DID have it at one time.

Yes, he most certainly did have "IA" (Issue Authority) from The Church
[sic] of Scientology of California, which included Flag, for many years.

While I was staff at ASHO, I personally wrote many, many checks off of
the HCO Book Account. It was my job as the Director of Disbursements and
later as Treasury Secretary [and Dir Disbursements HFA ("held from above")]
to prepare *all* checks for signing. As Treasury Secretary, I also signed
thousands of checks since I was a signatory on *all* org accounts including:

1. Main Account (used for org expenses, staff pay & bonuses, promotional
expenses, etc.),
2. HCO Book Account (used to pay booksales bonuses, and to purchase books,
tapes, meters, insignias, course packs, charts, scales, OCA testing materials,
book promo, "Auditor Magazine" printing & mailing costs, etc.),
3. FSM Account (used to pay FSM Commissions),
4. SCA Account ( used for payments of rebates, affectionately called "Service
Completion Awards", or "SCA"),
5. Org Reserve Account (mainly used to build *supposedly* "untouchable
reserves", but in actuality a *transfer* or "flow" account used to funnel
money overseas to the Kreditenbank in Luxembourg where Church [sic] of
Scientology of California maintained a "Reserve Account #2"),
6. CVB ("Claims Verification Board") Account (used for refund/repayment claims
payments).

I was not a signatory on FBO Accounts or GO Accounts, although at various
times I used to participate in doing bank reconciliations, financial audits
and reports on those accounts. I also did prepare checks for the GO Main
Account, so I was privy to all sorts of information.

Anyway, with regards to the HCO Book Account, for 6 years I personally
prepared checks for book orders, and/or I signed the checks. As such I recall
instances of Scientology having placed many orders for purchase of books
written by Peter Gillham, Ruth Minshull and others. We used to purchase
Ruth Minshull's books from Scientology Ann Arbor (Michigan). All books that
we purchased had Issue Authority at the time we purchased them, otherwise
there is no way we would have been allowed to purchase them with HCO Book
Account funds.

>The copy I have is Copyright 1972 - BY L. RON HUBBARD!

It is common to find that books and other materials written by others,
or co-authored by others "assisting" Hubbard, have "Copyright L Ron Hubbard"
on them.

>The book is dedicated to "Peter, Terri and Janis Gillham." I'm assuming,
>then, that the author's son was Peter Jr. Would that be the person listed
>in the official Enemies List? -

Yes. I'm pretty certain it is Peter Sr's son. I'd bet Jana could verify.
She knew/knows Peter Sr.

>GILLHAM, DOREEN SMITH
>GILLHAM, PETER JR.
>

>If so, anyone know why he was declared? Anyone know who Doreen is and why
>she was declared? Anyone know if Peter Sr. is still in?

Peter Gillham Sr. is still in Scientology. He'll probably never leave,
since he has quite a successful business which sells lots of vitamins
and health foods to other Scientologists. If he were to be declared an
"enemy", it would have a catastrophic effect on his financial welfare.
He still operates Peter Gillham's Nutritional Center at 4867 Fountain
Avenue in Hollywood. His store is very close to the Cedars Complex, just
1/2 a block west of Catalina Avenue.

>Since this book is not Source, there's probably not much point in quoting
>any of it here on a.r.s., but if anyone has any questions about its
>contents, please feel free to ask me here or in email.
>
>One interesting aside on the subject of Clears and perfect memory: On the
>title page, Peter Gillham indicates that he's OT VII Class VIII. However,
>in the Conclusion on p. 76, he says, "L. Ron Hubbard made a statement
>about perfection which has helped me considerably over the years since I
>first read it. ... I do not recall the exact words, but I will duplicate
>the meaning as follows:" -
>
>Despite his perfect memory, he couldn't remember a Hubbard quote.
>Apparently, he couldn't be bothered to look it up, either.

Hubbard's claim that "Clears" have perfect recall is obviously wrong.

>By the way, if you're interested in used books - tech or anything else - I
>encourage you to check out Bibliofind (www.bibliofind.com). Bibliofind
>lets you search the inventory of lots of different used book sellers
>around the world. For example, you can find various tech and admin volumes
>for $15-20 each. (The local bookstore where I found the Gillham book had a
>few admins and all the tech, but wanted $40+ per volume.)
>
>
>Kristi
>
>(who prefers Aaron Neville's version (and even Heart's remake) over Peter
>Gillham's)
>
>--
>Kristi Wachter
>the activist formerly known as "Jour" (before $cientology outed me)
>
>I think $cientology is hurting people and breaking the law, and I
>want them to stop it. See http://www.scientology-lies.com for more.
> Can you say "Xenu?" ... I knew that you could.

Warrior
See http://www.entheta.net/entheta/1stpersn/warrior/

SB

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Nov 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/2/98
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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 22:31:37 -0800, human...@racerrecords.com
(Kristi Wachter) wrote:

>That is, for many years, this book and other books
>by Scientologists were sold in Scn bookstores, but shortly after Hubbard
>died, Miscavige banned the stocking and sale of all such books. (Thanks
>for posting that order, Warrior!)

I thought a few good titles went by the wayside because of this. I
particularly liked some of Ruth Minchell's (sp?) work. "How to choose
your people" and "When in doubt, communicate" were good ones.

>
>GILLHAM, DOREEN SMITH
>GILLHAM, PETER JR.
>
>If so, anyone know why he was declared? Anyone know who Doreen is and why
>she was declared? Anyone know if Peter Sr. is still in?

I don't recall exactly. Financial irregularities seems to come to
mind. Don't quote me on that though.

Peter Sr is still in and still doing vitamins.


- SB

Tilman Hausherr

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Nov 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/2/98
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In <humanrights-01...@racer.vip.best.com>,
human...@racerrecords.com (Kristi Wachter) wrote:

>The book is dedicated to "Peter, Terri and Janis Gillham." I'm assuming,

I wonder why it isn't dedicated to Yvonne?

--
Tilman Hausherr [KoX, SP4]
til...@berlin.snafu.de http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/#cos

Resistance is futile. You will be enturbulated. Xenu always prevails.

Find broken links on your web site: http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/xenulink.html
Annoy scientology by buying books: http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/bookstore.html

LR1467

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Nov 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/2/98
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Re: the Gillhams - Peter, Pete Jr, Doreen, Teri ------------

Does anybody know if they are out or in? And whatever, are they doing OK?


LR

ker...@gmail.com

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Jun 9, 2013, 1:45:04 AM6/9/13
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Doreen passed away on January 20, 1989 from a horsing accident. She was a wonderful, loving beautiful woman. She was married to Peter Gilham while on the floating university while a teenager. She was a messenger for Scientology and handled large amounts of cash. She worked for L. Ron Hubbard. She talked a lot about those experiences with me. L. Ron made fun of anyone who was a believer. She said he was a sick, evil, and profane man. She lived in his house in Palm Desert. She was married to George Olendorf and lived in Malibu until her death. He passes shortly after she died. Her mother Babe passed soon after that. That just shows you how painful her loss was. I know I have never been the same.


On Sunday, November 1, 1998 1:00:00 AM UTC-7, Kristi Wachter wrote:
> Browsing in a used bookstore yesterday, I came across a copy of "Tell It
> Like It Is! A Course in Scientology Dissemination". It was only $5, so I
> bought it.
>
> This book, by Peter F. Gillham, is one of the books that was banned from
> Scientology bookstores. That is, for many years, this book and other books
> by Scientologists were sold in Scn bookstores, but shortly after Hubbard
> died, Miscavige banned the stocking and sale of all such books. (Thanks
> for posting that order, Warrior!)
>
> Incidentally, according to that order, TILII and other banned books lacked
> issue authority. However, this book says, right on the copyright page,
> under the copyright info, "Permission for Publication Granted by Issue
> Authority, Flag." I'm sure issue authority could have been withdrawn, but
> it looks like Gillham DID have it at one time.
>
> The copy I have is Copyright 1972 - BY L. RON HUBBARD!
>
> The book is dedicated to "Peter, Terri and Janis Gillham." I'm assuming,
> then, that the author's son was Peter Jr. Would that be the person listed
> in the official Enemies List? -
>
> GILLHAM, DOREEN SMITH
> GILLHAM, PETER JR.
>
> If so, anyone know why he was declared? Anyone know who Doreen is and why
> she was declared? Anyone know if Peter Sr. is still in?
>
> Since this book is not Source, there's probably not much point in quoting
> any of it here on a.r.s., but if anyone has any questions about its
> contents, please feel free to ask me here or in email.
>
> One interesting aside on the subject of Clears and perfect memory: On the
> title page, Peter Gillham indicates that he's OT VII Class VIII. However,
> in the Conclusion on p. 76, he says, "L. Ron Hubbard made a statement
> about perfection which has helped me considerably over the years since I
> first read it. ... I do not recall the exact words, but I will duplicate
> the meaning as follows:" -
>
> Despite his perfect memory, he couldn't remember a Hubbard quote.
> Apparently, he couldn't be bothered to look it up, either.
>

ronp...@gmail.com

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Yes, discrepencies in financials that Peter Jr was handling, is the purported reason for Scientology raining down hard on he and Doreen. She desperately wanted out of the CULT, as they hounded her daily upon her exit to Los Angeles. I was privy to this information as she and I were informally engaged for two years in the early 80's and stayed very close for years thereafter. She never had a kind word to say regarding Scientology, and always spoke of their controlling methods.
She was sincere. A total tragedy, her untimely death. I'll remember her always, the brightness of her spirit, an eternal light.
RPJ

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