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From: Peter Schilte <peters...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology
Subject: Re: CANCELED: Re: CANCELED: Re: Thank you, David Miscavige!
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On 23 dec, 19:01, Lazarus <r...@news.lightlink.com> wrote:
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> =A0Subject: Re: CANCELED: Re: Thank you, David Miscavige!
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> =A0> =3DA0On 23 Dec, 15:37, Dead ElRon <Dead_El...@Firey-Hell.Org> wrote:
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> =A0> =3DA0>http://www.friendsoflrh.org/Section2/
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> =A0> =3DA0Not to forget his pal Tom Cruise.

Stop it, or I keep posting them back to ACT.

Lazarus

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Subject: Re: CANCELED: Re: CANCELED: Re: Thank you, David Miscavige!

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"henri" <he...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:36:39 -0500, John Dorsay
> <restim...@gmail.com> wrote:


>
>>On 12/23/2009 1:13 PM, Peter Schilte wrote:
>
>>> Stop it, or I keep posting them back to ACT.
>

>>Your follow-ups are also cancelled, and only aggravate the spamming
>>of ars. Homer and other act participants who use lightlink do not
>>see them.
>
> Right. I did it a couple times just to make the obvious result of
> Homer's idiocy even more obvious, in the hopes that he will reconsider
> his idiocy.

He's the most stupid person I know that can cancel posts. Maybe I should
issue a control message to remove alt.clearing.technology. ;-)

> I wouldn't do it more than a couple times, though, because then it
> would also be cancellable spam.

To some people, but not me.

> I have also considered crossposting every article I write to ACT, but
> that doesn't really help either. That just punishes ARS more.

I don't think so. Homer could lose his posting privileges and more.

> Homer appears to have finally audited out whatever remnants of sanity
> used to be rattling around in his head.

It's apparent to everyone that he's a Scientologist. Just look at the crazy
shit he does...

> I suppose I could start forwarding every one of his spam messages to
> his upstream Usenet provider.

I think everyone here should send a complaint.

> Homer's moronic spamming is no better than any other cult attack on
> ARS.

Very true.


Lady Pilot

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"Slarty" <thaddeu...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is not ARS. This is alt.clearing.technology, and you all are
trolls.

__________reply______________

I'm not a troll, I'm sort of a "freedom of speech" fighter, among other
things...

I've started my own newsgroup in 1998? But even though I started the
newsgroup, I don't own it or can't control it. Only someone with admin
skills would know this. It's very clear Homer doesn't have a clue about
Usenet. His weasel website is not Usenet! Do you understand now, you
mental midget?

<sigh> I've been around for years.


Lady Pilot

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On Dec 23, 1:59 pm, "Lady Pilot" <i...@lid.not> wrote:
> "Lazarus" <r...@news.lightlink.com> wrote in message
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> > Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology
> > Subject: Re: CANCELED: Re: CANCELED: Re: Thank you, David Miscavige!
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I hope you get reported to net.abuse, or some such.

_____________reply______________________

I'm sure you've been busy writing netcop e-mails...

Gregory Hall

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"Lady Pilot" <la...@Babs.knuts> wrote in message
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Almost sixty? Bwaahhahahahhahahahah.

--
Gregory Hall


Mad as a Box of Frogs

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In article <3ct0db....@news.alt.net>,

Forget all that, none of us are spring chickens.
Where have you been Mr. Hall? Forget all that too.

Now get back into auk and continue slapping those libel-bastard
Maryboys around like God intended you to.

New developments are on the horizon, so *prick* up your ears.


--
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DENSA Life Achievement � Am I the only one with half a brain?

Gregory Hall

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"Mad as a Box of Frogs" <unde...@news.vrx.net> wrote in message
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Some of us have a life. Been busy as hell what charity work and all around
Christmas. Not even time left anymore to flirt with my true love, Barbara
Schwarz. The poor woman must be getting very lonely and depressed by now but
she'll just have to suffer for a while longer. There's only so much of any
good thing to go around.

As for the stAUKers, I can't wait to see their lame, crybaby excuses when
Novins and the federal court slaps them like they've never been slapped
before. Compared to what the sorry stAUKer lot is going to experience, water
boarding is a cakewalk.

<removed ACT so the crybaby Homer won't have to howl for his Binky.>

--
Gregory Hall


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Voltaire's Child

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"Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> wrote in message
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> "Mad as a Box of Frogs" <unde...@news.vrx.net> wrote in message
> news:hh1vnr$meg$4...@undertow.eternal-september.org...

>


> <removed ACT so the crybaby Homer won't have to howl for his Binky.>
>

I shouldn't be saying this, but *that's* funny!

C

Slarty

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On Dec 23, 5:44 pm, "Lady Pilot" <la...@Babs.knuts> wrote:
> "Slarty" <thaddeus.sl...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Then you are certain of false data (very aberrated). I haven't.

"The Great One"

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"Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> wrote in message news:3cvvid....@news.alt.net...
> > DENSA Life Achievement ø Am I the only one with half a brain?

>
>
>
> Some of us have a life. Been busy as hell what charity work and all around
> Christmas. Not even time left anymore to flirt with my true love, Barbara
> Schwarz. The poor woman must be getting very lonely and depressed by now but
> she'll just have to suffer for a while longer. There's only so much of any
> good thing to go around.
>
> As for the stAUKers, I can't wait to see their lame, crybaby excuses when
> Novins and the federal court slaps them like they've never been slapped
> before. Compared to what the sorry stAUKer lot is going to experience, water
> boarding is a cakewalk.
> --
> Gregory Hall

"Fat-Boi" Plow and Roz will be squealing like little gurls !!

This will be tremendous !!
--
John C.

p.s. Fred Hall or a good faker seems to be back so notify Atlas Bugged so Hall can "get-in" on the fun as he missed the last suit due to leaving Usenet on June 18, 2008 after I spotted his moldy trailer by satellite in June of 2008 and Fweddie cried and didn't like me anymore !!

Slarty

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On Dec 23, 5:43 pm, "Lady Pilot" <la...@Babs.knuts> wrote:

I suppose I just don't understand, in this sense (mental midget or
not). If this were say rec.music.progressive (a usenet newsgroup w/in
the non alt.hierarchy)/ the ng had become inundated so much w/stuff
that belonged on a different ng, that there was hardly any1 posting,
since it had become something outside the design intent/ 1 poster got
pissed, he (I think) might expect some back-up)/would rightly feel
that net-bullying was the true nature of what was going on. I think
this is a conspiracy by anti-fz people, and that they expect not to be
caught in it because scientology has become a negatively charged buzz-
word, and so therefore I state such. There is no shortage of
scientology critical sights, and not much of a shortages on fz
critical sites. This is attempted (and maybe successful) sabotage on
the parts of the participants; plain and simple, as near as I can
tell, and so I state such. Also; everything I've ever observed about
HWS says he is a model of decency, / therefore doesn't deserve this
shit (best possible word, I think, under the circumstances as I see
them). If you can give me a non-cruelhearted response; that I may be
wrong in my overall assessment is not a possibility I am unwilling to
consider. If you are just being an ahole, please desist!

ho...@lightlink.com

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> On Dec 23, 5:43 pm, "Lady Pilot" <la...@Babs.knuts> wrote:
>> I'm not a troll, I'm sort of a "freedom of speech" fighter, among other
>> things...

That's a good thing. But freedom of speech includes the right to
not listen. Thus we do not allow spam in our mailboxes, although it
infringes on spammer's freedom of speech, and we do not allow people to
poster our houses nor trees in our parks with their sales pitches, and
we do not allow loud music after 10 pm at night by law, nor other things
that disturb the peace and orderly progress of society.

For every right there is a duty, and for every duty there
is a right.

Thus your right speak must be balanced by your duty to
preserve my right to not hear and not listen.

Freedom of speech means being able to speak freely IN THE PROPER
PLACE AND TIME without having the thought control police come and take
you away.

It doesn't mean freedom to say anything to anyone anytime you want,
anyway you want, nor to take up their time and money trying to figure
out how to kill file you.

Thus your position as stated above is specious and disingenuous.

Homer

ho...@lightlink.com

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> On Dec 23, 5:43 pm, "Lady Pilot" <la...@Babs.knuts> wrote:
>> I've started my own newsgroup in 1998? But even though I started the
>> newsgroup, I don't own it or can't control it. Only someone with admin
>> skills would know this. It's very clear Homer doesn't have a clue about
>> Usenet. His weasel website is not Usenet! Do you understand now, you
>> mental midget?

I started a.c.t in 1993, and although I don't own it or control it,
I do exercise what power I can to keep it orderly and productive, and I
do have the authority of the readers behind me, most of whom respect me.

I have been running Lightlink Internet since April of 1995 which
includes news.lightlink.com and news2.lightlink.com. We have presently
about 10 newsfeeds from all over the world, but had upwards of 20 during
the heyday of news. We are a small leaf sight.



>> <sigh> I've been around for years.

My first posting to the internet was back in 1988 when I owned and
ran a mailing list called ADO...@UALTAVM.BITNET which probably now that
I think of it, the first internet discussion list on clearing.

> I suppose I just don't understand, in this sense (mental midget or
> not). If this were say rec.music.progressive (a usenet newsgroup w/in
> the non alt.hierarchy)/ the ng had become inundated so much w/stuff
> that belonged on a different ng, that there was hardly any1 posting,
> since it had become something outside the design intent/ 1 poster got
> pissed, he (I think) might expect some back-up)/would rightly feel
> that net-bullying was the true nature of what was going on.

Slarty I am not fighting your position, because you are basically
correct, and net, bullying lord, knows has definitely taken its toll in
the history of a.c.t and a.r.s

But presently I believe most of the cross posting is not evil
intent, but merely thoughtlessness or selfishness. Some people think
their postings are so important trying to save us all from Scientology,
that they feel those of us lost on a.c.t need to know about how bad the
Church is too. Most of the others just don't notice the Followups line.

The problem was the response from the truely low lifes that
knowingly made things worse by cross posting complaints about the
event, and then trying to blame me for the deluge. Not ONE person
in the group has taken any responsibility for the mess at all.

Even if I had been totally in the wrong, a reasonable discussion
about the matter could have handled in 1/10 the number of posts,
and in fact I should have brought up that discussion in a.r.s
BEFORE hand and I apologize that I didn't.

Other's cross post good stuff, like Phil's posting about Aaron
Saxton which turned me onto the new videos that had come out. But the
downside was the endless followups that turned into a wave of noise and
gremlin chatter and cackels.

> scientology critical sights, and not much of a shortages on fz
> critical sites. This is attempted (and maybe successful) sabotage on
> the parts of the participants; plain and simple, as near as I can
> tell, and so I state such. Also; everything I've ever observed about
> HWS says he is a model of decency, / therefore doesn't deserve this
> shit (best possible word, I think, under the circumstances as I see
> them). If you can give me a non-cruelhearted response; that I may be
> wrong in my overall assessment is not a possibility I am unwilling to
> consider. If you are just being an ahole, please desist!

Telling a gremlin to desist will only make him louder because a
gremlin is not run by staid human decency but by a desire to make
trouble, be known, and cause exasperation.

Gremlins are all rights and no duties, spoiled silly so to speak.

Anyhow thanks for your support, I did make numerous mistakes in
judgement about various things, but the experiment did not prove
worthless.

Homer

--
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Homer Wilson Smith The Paths of Lovers Art Matrix - Lightlink
(607) 277-0959 KC2ITF Cross Internet Access, Ithaca NY
ho...@lightlink.com In the Line of Duty http://www.lightlink.com

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Gregory Hall

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"Fred Hall" <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

> Dream on, DisHonest John. False christian slime like you are too
> stupid to locate me, even though my location is well known to many.


Such as your probation officer? Bwahahhahahahahhaha.


--
Gregory Hall


Seth

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> That's a good thing. But freedom of speech includes the right to
>not listen.

Right.

> Thus we do not allow spam in our mailboxes, although it
>infringes on spammer's freedom of speech,

No, it doesn't. Just like me walking away from you when you're
speechifying in the park, I'm not stopping you from speaking, I'm just
choosing not to listen.

> and we do not allow people to
>poster our houses nor trees in our parks with their sales pitches,

Freedom of speech (or of the press) does not include any right to use
other people's property.

> and we do not allow loud music after 10 pm at night by law, nor
>other things that disturb the peace and orderly progress of society.

Similarly: the law says that amplified sound (or sound above some
limit) is an unwarranted intrusion on the privacy and property of
others. If you own a large piece of land and want to make loud noises
far away from anyone else, fine. But doing so 100' from my window is
an intrusion onto my property.

> For every right there is a duty, and for every duty there
>is a right.

In the sense that if I have right X, it is your duty to respect that
right (that is, not violate it; you can be as disrespectful towards my
exercise of it as you choose. My freedom of speech doesn't mean you
can't say I'm wrong, or just laugh at what I'm saying.) Similarly, if
you have a duty X, it's my right to have you perform that duty.

> Thus your right speak must be balanced by your duty to
>preserve my right to not hear and not listen.

That's not my obligation. If I'm speechifying in the park, and you're
sitting nearby and for whatever reason can't get up and leave, that
doesn't mean I have to stop speaking if you want me to.

> Freedom of speech means being able to speak freely IN THE PROPER
>PLACE AND TIME without having the thought control police come and take
>you away.

Where "the proper place and time" is defined without respect to _what_
it is you're saying.

> It doesn't mean freedom to say anything to anyone anytime you want,

The limitations are only as above; you can say anything you want _at_
anyone you want anytime you want, but they have no obligation to
cooperate.

>anyway you want, nor to take up their time and money trying to figure
>out how to kill file you.

If I _really_ don't want to hear your speechifying, it's up to me to
figure out when you're in the park so I can walk somewhere else.

Otherwise, under what circumstances do you lose the right to post
because I don't want to go to the effort of killfiling you?

Seth

"The Great One"

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"Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> wrote in message news:3d29eh....@news.alt.net...

Sylvia Brown just called me and said that she "feels" that someone will post a pic of Fweddie's moldy trailer this next week !!

I just can't wait !!
--
HJ

p.s. Fweddy is still crying about getting a SPNAK !!

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That is why I seem to be an hws fan-boy. That rant burnt. You just
F'ing shine in the damned darkness, Homer/ I can't help but love it.
"I've only 1 burning desire. Let me stand next to your fire."--Jimmy
Hendrix.

ho...@lightlink.com

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Dec 27, 2009, 1:42:23 AM12/27/09
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In alt.clearing.technology Seth <se...@panix.com> wrote:
> If I _really_ don't want to hear your speechifying, it's up to me to
> figure out when you're in the park so I can walk somewhere else.

I disagree, these things are all part of social agreements.

If the park is deemed off limits by orindance then it is off
limits.

But more to the point, if you are in the park, and someone
puts up a soap box right in front of you, and you get up and move
and they move their soapbox again right in front of you, you probably
have a right to pursue a case of harassment.



> Otherwise, under what circumstances do you lose the right to post
> because I don't want to go to the effort of killfiling you?

Again, it depends on social agreements. Usenet has its
agreements, and in the early years misbehavior would warrant
calling up the controlling ISP and getting accounts pulled.

With anonymity it becomes a problem.

Homer
>
> Seth

Slarty

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On Dec 25, 8:35 pm, ho...@lightlink.com wrote:
> >  On Dec 23, 5:43 pm, "Lady Pilot" <la...@Babs.knuts> wrote:
> >> I've started my own newsgroup in 1998?  But even though I started the
> >> newsgroup, I don't own it or can't control it.  Only someone with admin
> >> skills would know this.  It's very clear Homer doesn't have a clue about
> >> Usenet.  His weasel website is not Usenet!  Do you understand now, you
> >> mental midget?
>
>      I started a.c.t in 1993, and although I don't own it or control it,
> I do exercise what power I can to keep it orderly and productive, and I
> do have the authority of the readers behind me, most of whom respect me.
>
>      I have been running Lightlink Internet since April of 1995 which
> includes news.lightlink.com and news2.lightlink.com.  We have presently
> about 10 newsfeeds from all over the world, but had upwards of 20 during
> the heyday of news.  We are a small leaf sight.
>
> >> <sigh>  I've been around for years.
>
>      My first posting to the internet was back in 1988 when I owned and
> ran a mailing list called ADOR...@UALTAVM.BITNET which probably now that

To what are you refering to in the last paragraph?

BTW: I am posting to act again these days, because, I think that this
ng around 1996-1998, or so was a better forum for fz (alternative
clearing technologies...whatever), than the elists I know of currently
are, partly (mostly, entirely?)due to the more Mom/Pop ah shucks feel
of elists in general. I hope it gets back to being such, or that
another solution to the problem as I see it comes along. I hate to
say it, but this NG seems pretty dead. Partly that's "where's all my
old bro-bro's". The other part is we have your roboposters/ a lot of
off-topic discussions/ VERY little else. I see no real reason that
usenet OR this NG should have to die, also. Usenet can be perfectly
viable, w/out being "hot". It doesn't take enough bandwidth to be too
much of a problem, would be my guess; especially since it's all basic
text. What do you think? BTW: I apologize I cannot, that I know of,
be instrumental in achieving the goal I mention (more than I am doing,
if I'm doing, dig?)

ho...@lightlink.com

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Thanks Slarty.

Homer

In alt.clearing.technology Slarty <thaddeu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 25, 8:20?pm, ho...@lightlink.com wrote:


>> > ?On Dec 23, 5:43 pm, "Lady Pilot" <la...@Babs.knuts> wrote:
>> >> I'm not a troll, I'm sort of a "freedom of speech" fighter, among other
>> >> things...
>>

>> ? ? ?That's a good thing. ?But freedom of speech includes the right to
>> not listen. ?Thus we do not allow spam in our mailboxes, although it


>> infringes on spammer's freedom of speech, and we do not allow people to
>> poster our houses nor trees in our parks with their sales pitches, and
>> we do not allow loud music after 10 pm at night by law, nor other things
>> that disturb the peace and orderly progress of society.
>>

>> ? ? ?For every right there is a duty, and for every duty there
>> is a right.
>>
>> ? ? ?Thus your right speak must be balanced by your duty to


>> preserve my right to not hear and not listen.
>>

>> ? ? ?Freedom of speech means being able to speak freely IN THE PROPER


>> PLACE AND TIME without having the thought control police come and take
>> you away.
>>

>> ? ? ?It doesn't mean freedom to say anything to anyone anytime you want,


>> anyway you want, nor to take up their time and money trying to figure
>> out how to kill file you.
>>

>> ? ? ?Thus your position as stated above is specious and disingenuous.
>>
>> ? ? ?Homer


>
> That is why I seem to be an hws fan-boy. That rant burnt. You just
> F'ing shine in the damned darkness, Homer/ I can't help but love it.
> "I've only 1 burning desire. Let me stand next to your fire."--Jimmy
> Hendrix.

--

Sarah Ehrett

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On Dec 26, 11:46 pm, Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:16:14 -0500, "Gregory Hall"
> Lamer than usual, Neal.
>
> How about some more gay lames?  Those seem to come naturally for you.
>
> --
>
> "We should have just "leased" them so they could be
> returned back to Africa..." Dishonest John giving his
> opinion of African-Americans in Message-ID: <8pSdnRjCUvEePZXWnZ2dnUVZ_rydn...@centurytel.net>
>
> http://honestjohn777.multiply.com/photos/album/4/My_spread
>
> "We don't discuss religion anymore you fucking idiot!  Eat some more shit"
>   -- Honest John, Christian evangelist

My cunt itches

----------------
Defendant Name: EHRETT, KENNETH ANDREW

Court System: DISTRICT COURT FOR CHARLES COUNTY - CRIMINAL
SYSTEM
Case Number: 00008221P3Tracking No:0000008221P3
Case Type: CRIMINAL
District Code: 04Location Code:02
Document Type: STATEMENT OF CHARGESIssued Date:12/17/1989
Case Status: CLOSEDCase Disposition:TRIAL
Defendant Information
Defendant Name: EHRETT, KENNETH ANDREW
Race: WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex: MHeight:509Weight:215DOB:11/18/1956
Address: 110 BEACH DRIVE
City: MECHANICSVILLEState:MDZip Code:20659 - 0000
Charge and Disposition Information
(Each Charge is listed separately. The disposition is listed below
the
Charge)
Charge No: 001Description:HANDGUN ON PERSON: CARRY/WEAR
Statute: 27.36B.(b)Description:HANDGUN ON PERSON
Amended Date: CJIS Code:1 5212MO/PLL:Probable Cause:
Incident Date From: To: Victim Age:
Disposition
Plea: GUILTY

Seth

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In article <4b37...@news2.lightlink.com>, <ho...@lightlink.com> wrote:
>In alt.clearing.technology Seth <se...@panix.com> wrote:
>> If I _really_ don't want to hear your speechifying, it's up to me to
>> figure out when you're in the park so I can walk somewhere else.
>
> I disagree, these things are all part of social agreements.
>
> If the park is deemed off limits by orindance then it is off
>limits.

If it's illegal to enter the park, sure. But if it's legal to enter
the park and sit or stand on the grass, it's legal to give a political
speech while doing so.

> But more to the point, if you are in the park, and someone
>puts up a soap box right in front of you, and you get up and move
>and they move their soapbox again right in front of you, you probably
>have a right to pursue a case of harassment.

If they continue doing so, sure. But if they have no idea where you
are, and just keep moving around so as to make their speech in every
corner of the park, then no.

>> Otherwise, under what circumstances do you lose the right to post
>> because I don't want to go to the effort of killfiling you?
>
> Again, it depends on social agreements. Usenet has its
>agreements, and in the early years misbehavior would warrant
>calling up the controlling ISP and getting accounts pulled.

Sure, every ISP has its own rules, and enforces them as it wishes.

> With anonymity it becomes a problem.

The Path header is not anonymous. If an ISP chooses not to enforce
what you think the rules should be, that's your problem; you're
welcome not to accept its posts on your server.

Seth

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In alt.clearing.technology Slarty <thaddeu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ? ? ?Anyhow thanks for your support, I did make numerous mistakes in

>> judgement about various things, but the experiment did not prove
>> worthless.
>
> To what are you refering to in the last paragraph?

The experiment showed me that a.r.s is infiltrated by Gremlin class
humans, who have no honest interest in the real subjects involved, and
who originally were not the source of the cross posting, and possibly
not even the followups.

But once they got hold that I was trying to kill freedom of speech
on the internet, whoa baby did they come out in force.

:)

Just joking, good little Gremlin...

> BTW: I am posting to act again these days, because, I think that this
> ng around 1996-1998, or so was a better forum for fz (alternative
> clearing technologies...whatever), than the elists I know of currently
> are, partly (mostly, entirely?)due to the more Mom/Pop ah shucks feel
> of elists in general. I hope it gets back to being such, or that
> another solution to the problem as I see it comes along. I hate to
> say it, but this NG seems pretty dead. Partly that's "where's all my
> old bro-bro's". The other part is we have your roboposters/ a lot of
> off-topic discussions/ VERY little else. I see no real reason that
> usenet OR this NG should have to die, also. Usenet can be perfectly
> viable, w/out being "hot". It doesn't take enough bandwidth to be too
> much of a problem, would be my guess; especially since it's all basic
> text. What do you think? BTW: I apologize I cannot, that I know of,
> be instrumental in achieving the goal I mention (more than I am doing,
> if I'm doing, dig?)

My take, in the early days everyone here came from varied
backgrounds with lots of different viewpoints and disagreements.

It took many years to get them all aired, and eventually people
like myself stopped posting because there was nothing more to say that I
already knew. Now I generally only post new things as my case and
auditing progresses, and that can go as long as month sometimes, as this
case level is very hard and very dangerous to body soul and health.

Other's took to private lists where the likes of KP couldn't
respond to everything with 'you are hallucinating' when in fact he was
at or below hallucination on the awareness characteristic scale.

But basically I think that everyone peaked out at known knowledge,
and those that are continuing to press the frontier are doing so in
private lists, not only to keep the clowns and gremmies out, but for
security sake.

Public forums give most people the willies.

They just don't want people to know what they know.

Homer

"The Great One"

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"Fred Hall" <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:35:49 -0800 (PST), Sarah Ehrett
>
> > Fred Hall has anal-warts growing on his tongue!
>
> No surprise there. Gays live in trailers on either side of my skanky trailer ;-)
> --
> "trailer-trash" Hall

Glad that you're getting enough "round-steak" to eat there Fweddie !!
--
Your "pen-pal",
HJ

p.s. Pic of your trailer is coming, soon...we'll black-out the license plat on that dark Chevy!

p.p.s. Nice green trash barrell out in front to denote: "Trash Lives Here" !!

p.p.p.s. Hee.......Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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