... and they shag together as well
For some reason (low flash, I espect) I can't get anything on that
website except the headings.
Anyway, does Rathbun censure and/or edit comments he receives which do
not sit well with him....i.e, criticism or questions about certain
people and issues? Has anyone ever asked Rathbun and/or Rinder to
explain what "methods" were used to get Bob Minton to join Scientology
in its attacks against Ken Dandar, Lisa's family, Patricia, Peter and
others to make the Lisa wrongful death suit and other things "go
away"?
Tigger
thanks, I left 3 replies...we will see if smiley/ and gutless will
allow them to show,
so far i seen only sychophants posting...and Rathbun all puffed up
looking, with
Rinder the ruthless coward who sent thugs after women and children,
while himself
hiding under a rock.... standing there looking like a used car
salesman.
what class.
Neither will be able to hide from any of what they have done for a
second...brainwashed
sychophants not with standing... like the freezone has evolved, one
grease ball greasing
the other..to collapse. always remembered however will be those
who directly ruined
so many lives by the most despcable gutless tactics imaginable.
that is what will define these two unless they turn states
evidence...few at that level of such
a ruthless fraud ever do though.
Phil scott
these two should get together with Bogus Bogus,, he could be their
front guy,
and tell the world about all their fabulous wins delivering fraudlent
crap to
other idiots.
He's actually pretty decent about allowing comments that question his
motives and so on, as long as they aren't angry and abusive. I have
posted some zingers that got through, although I've gone out of my way
to be polite and factual.
Marty lets only traces of hints about his culpabillity through.. he
blocks the
rest, that will insure his failure in the cultie boy business, those
he associates
with will fade with him, in tandem...as has the freezone... and for
the same reasons.
with luck he might end up with his own close circle of greaseballs,
mindless associates
and fellow nut cases... that will be impressive.
none of those last though, and Marty will be stuck holding the bad for
his ruthless and
cowardly destructon of so many lives, including those of women and
children.
the history of that is long on record with plenty of witnesses...
these two will have to
cease being punchy face cowards before... er they cease being punch
face spin boy cowards.
I suggest thes grow some balls, fly to the EU and testify before EU
intelligence and the EU courts
but after going to the press world wide first, in secret before one of
DM's vested intererts sees to
it they end up with ice picks in their ears... that is if they havent
cut some wimp ass deal already, seeing
as how they feared little slappy so much, and knew very well he might
very well sent killers after them.
none of this is impressive...such mediocre ranges of cowardice... as
their victims remain dead and
forgotten speaks poorly for everyone involved... the greaseball back
slapping from drooling idiots not
with standing.
phil scott
> none of this is impressive...such mediocre ranges of cowardice... as
> their victims remain dead and
> forgotten speaks poorly for everyone involved... the greaseball back
> slapping from drooling idiots not
> with standing.
Poor Phil! His dreams slowly shatter. His false reality continues to slap
him in his pimply face. Scientology continues to win round after round.
When are these anti-Scientology extremists going to wake up and smell the
coffee? When are they going to stop believing their own lies and delusions?
--
Gregory Hall
If you look back on ars to 2007 before Mike Rinder left the church,
you will see I was speaking favorably about him even then. I told all
of you that Mike Rinder had Integrity. I also announced my faith in
him.
Mike Rinder leaving the church and helping to protest David Miscavige
and the church's bad policies and abuses is not surprising to me.
exactly the point... where is the integrity, courage or anything but
abject cowardice
in attacking men, women and children with hired thugs just because
they either left the cult
or spoke out even slightly... that is simply insane, as is jusifying
it later, especially when
having fled the abuse oneself..
its simple cowardice from the git go... now its virtually too late for
either to go the
authroities or they too could be sent to prison or murdered by the
cults vested interests, not
all of those entirely obvious. ...
as it is, much of this will come out regardless, too late
for dickless and punchy face to turn states evidence.... as their
victims remain deader than
hell, financially ruined or in a mental hospital like Dr Joan Woods..
nice guys these
two.
we should maybe kiss their asses.
Phil scott
What's with this "we" stuff? Speak for yourself, Phil. You don't speak for
us rational and sane people.
--
Gregory Hall
What you are looking at there is the founding fathers of the Reformed Church
of Scientology.
You know, it occurred to me today after reading that page that David
Miscavige has become the scapegoat for all of L. Ron's El Wrong Policies.
They can fix it! Right...
: D
Peach
--
Extra! Extra! Read All About It!
Save some dough, save some grief:
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.scientology-lies.com
I hope they try. They'll probably do better than David Mayo before DM
caves them in, and the carnival will be fun to watch. They can charge
extra for an audience with the fat man, Pierre.
Didn't look like it last time I checked. But maybe you made some kind
of effect on Marty before disapproved them. He hasn't censored me yet,
though I pissed him off a bit yesterday.
Replace on lier with another lier - thats the reform
I agree that it isn't worth reforming, and probably can't be at any
cost. But let them try, and keep some popcorn next to your microwave.
No need to reform unless for the better
I listened to one of his talks. It was very soporific.
Once again, I'm really wondering what would happen if David Miscavige
dropped dead of a heart attack tomorrow. Now that would be interesting
to watch.
yes I beleive thats the intention at least... but not a chance in
hell, the cult is going
out the bottom and those two guttless scum bags will end up selling
used cars... oh
wait! Dickless already is selling used cars.
whatta bunch o guys, 'big dogs running in the tall grass'
Phil scott
yes yes... an audience with the fat man would we worth it... great
idea.
yes, I saw that post of yours... not bad. Limp dick and gutless wont
be tolerating that sort of commentary for long imo.
oh well, its such a limited forum, just a few brain washed morons
posting it
and fewer reading it...sigh. we will just have to make our views
and
recommendations known on one of USENETS most famous news groups of
all time.
Phil scott
those are not my remarks, Im being sproged by the Etheier dim wits.
the way to check is to click on the profile...
Phil scott
Yeah, looks like I'm now banned from posting too. He wiped out two or
three posts of mine since then, calling me a "vandal," whatever that
means. I told him to word clear that, which he didn't allow through.
>
> oh well, its such a limited forum, just a few brain washed morons
> posting it
> and fewer reading it...sigh.
Sort of funny how they want a reformed "liberal" Scientology. As if
there ever was anything but a criminal cult.
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[REPLY]
Why is it so difficult for those who once held positions of power to give it
up?
The best thing these two has-beens could do is to go gracefully into hiding.
If they didn't manage to scam some sort of nest egg out of their years in
Scientology then they just aren't too bright to begin with. If they don't
fade away because they're broke then shame on them both.
--
Gregory Hall
Why don't you ask David Miscavige?
>
> The best thing these two has-beens could do is to go gracefully into hiding.
The best thing Rathbun and Rinder could do (for themselves and for the
world) is to first get some exit-counseling, get their heads on
straight and get the facts about L. Ron Hubbard/Scientology and then
proceed to speak out about the crimes of Hubbard and Miscaviage and
what a congame Scientology was, is and always will be.
>
> If they didn't manage to scam some sort of nest egg out of their years in
> Scientology then they just aren't too bright to begin with. If they don't
> fade away because they're broke then shame on them both.
So, are you finally admitting that Scientology is a scam trying to
hide behind
the claim of being a religion?
Tigger
>
> --
> Gregory Hall- Hide quoted text -
Punchy face Marty and dickless Rathbun are toast in all areas but
a few freezone type dim wits who think Elrongs story about his almost
gettinr run over by a train on Venus was really hot,
The cult is over, but its criminal empire will go on for a while yet..
that
will not forward the brainwash at all... it will forward gross
corruption and insanity in govt
though...
...as an aside i saw very similar thinking and fair game tactics
applied at
the nuc weapons plants against anyone who spoke up... these do have a
few
roots in common, mentioned elsewhere.
Phil scott
Why don't you try reading with comprehension, Shirley Jean Wilson? The last
time I looked D.M. was STILL holding the reigns of power. That means he
doesn't fit into the subset of failures like the twin M.R. morons who "once
held" positions of power.
>>
>> The best thing these two has-beens could do is to go gracefully into
>> hiding.
> The best thing Rathbun and Rinder could do (for themselves and for the
> world) is to first get some exit-counseling, get their heads on
> straight and get the facts about L. Ron Hubbard/Scientology and then
> proceed to speak out about the crimes of Hubbard and Miscaviage and
> what a congame Scientology was, is and always will be.
WRONG! Why? Because both of them are up to their eyeballs in anything they
could accuse D.M. of. Implicite as hell, IOW. Doing what you suggest would
be tantamount to Richard Speck accusing one of his deceased victims of
failing to pay a parking ticket.
>>
>> If they didn't manage to scam some sort of nest egg out of their years in
>> Scientology then they just aren't too bright to begin with. If they don't
>> fade away because they're broke then shame on them both.
> So, are you finally admitting that Scientology is a scam trying to
> hide behind
> the claim of being a religion?
Negative, I am admitting nothing of the sort. What I AM saying is there is a
criminal element in many big organizations and, sadly, this criminal element
often rises to the top. If the individual members of the criminal element
are so stupid that they can't see to their own futures and put something
aside outside of the organization then they are, indeed, unworthy.
Scientology itself is not a scam despite the fact that scammers seem to have
taken over. Just because somebody hijacks an airplane and flys it around the
world does not mean that the aircraft itself is a thief. Get it?
--
Gregory Hall
I don't think that DM, Mr. Texas and Mike Rinder are happy, Jonathon.
They have to count with that the real Marty will be aquitted and
released from wrongful incarceration and prosecuting and suing the
conspiracy of stealing his name and life and trying to ruin it.
Barbara Schwarz
--
Tilman Joerg Hausherr, from Berlin, Siemens employee webs defamation
on me that he and Korey Jerome Kruse aka Simkatu and
other socks scribbled once on Wikipedia:
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/media-newsroom/tilman-hausherr/
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/media-newsroom/tilman-hausherr/
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/intolerance-hate/whistle-blowers/the-clearwater-letters/tilman-hausherr/
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/kids.htm#Debate_with_Tilman_Hausherr
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Hausherr&btnG=Google+Search&domains=BERNIE.CNCFAMILY.COM&sitesearch=BERNIE.CNCFAMILY.COM
http://www.alarmgermany.org/tilman.htm
http://cyber-stalker-korey-jerome-kruse.blogspot.com/
http://phorums.com.au/archive/index.php/t-156307.html
That's the royal "We" .. with the ALL due respect , Barb :)
It does if that airplane actually happens to be a log that robbed some
wings from an airport and picked up a spray job to lend itself an air of
authenticity!
--
Noli nothi permittere te terere.