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Scott Duncan

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Mar 27, 2002, 1:08:54 AM3/27/02
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Here is (for the public record) the latest threat to Caroline's site!

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Sinnott [mailto:tsin...@bereskinparr.com]
Sent: March 26, 2002 3:08 PM
To: Scott Duncan
Subject: www.entheta.ca/caroline


Our Reference: 9138-38

By E-mail (sc...@nx2000.net)

Scott Duncan
NX2000 Research Coalition
78 Walmsley Blvd.
Toronto, Ontario M4V 1X6

Dear Mr. Duncan:


We are Canadian intellectual property counsel for the L. Ron Hubbard
Library, Church of Scientology International ("CSI"), Religious Technology
Center ("RTC") and Bridge Publications, Inc. ("BPI"), non-profit religious
corporations located in Los Angeles, California.

Our clients are the owner of the intellectual property rights, including the
copyright, to a large collection of materials related to the Scientology
religion, including photographs of L. Ron Hubbard and other individuals,
artwork displayed in various Scientology publications, and official
Scientology symbols (the "Copyrighted Works").

As you know, Ava Paquette of Moxon and Kobrin, U.S. counsel for our clients,
sent you a letter dated 30 January, 2002, asking you to shut down a website,
at the internet address www.entheta.ca (216.95.190.78), containing a large
number of unauthorized reproductions of our client's Copyrighted Works. We
understand that you responded by converting the entire site to a pdf file
which can be downloaded from one of your websites at the address
www.entheta.ca/caroline.

Please be advised that converting the website to a pdf file does not avoid
copyright infringement, but rather, it makes you liable for direct copyright
infringement.

We have reviewed your internet service provider's acceptable use policy,
available at www1.worldcom.com/ca/aup, and note that it includes the
following provision:

The Worldcom Network may be used only for lawful purposes. Transmission,
distribution or storage of any material in violation of any applicable law
or regulation is prohibited. This includes, without limitation, material
protected by copyright, trademark, trade secret, or other intellectual
property right used without proper authorization, and material that is
obscene, defamatory, constitutes an illegal threat, or violates export
control laws.

We therefore demand that you remove all unauthorized reproductions of the
Copyrighted Works from your websites immediately. If we do not receive a
cooperative response prior to 2 April, 2002, we will ask your internet
service provider to disconnect your websites from its network.

Yours truly,

--
Timothy J. Sinnott B.S., M.Sc. (Phys.), LL.B.
Bereskin & Parr
Box 401
40 King Street West
Toronto, Ontario M5H 3Y2
Canada

Direct Dial: (416) 957 1694
Main: (416) 364-7311
Facsimile: (416) 361-1398
e-mail: tsin...@bereskinparr.com
Internet: www.bereskinparr.com

This communication and any attachments may contain information that is
privileged or confidential and is intended only for the use of the
individual to whom it is addressed. Any other distribution, copying or
disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication
in error, please notify us immediately then delete this communication.
Thank you (Hmmm, does posting it to the Usenet Count? Tough shit...he
mailed me first...this is now MY property-Ed.)

From: Scott Duncan
Sent: March 27, 2002
To: Tim Sinnott [mailto:tsin...@bereskinparr.com]
Subject: www.entheta.ca/caroline


Ok Tim,

Here we go again.

This document falls under the Fair Dealings provisions of the Canadian
Copyright act section 29 EXCEPTIONS, to whit; Fair Dealing.

Since your letter CLEARLY indicates your lack of familiarity with the law in
this area, let me help you out.

Research or private study

29. Fair dealing for the purpose of research or private study does not
infringe copyright.

Criticism or review

29.1 Fair dealing for the purpose of criticism or review does not infringe
copyright if the following are mentioned:

(a) the source; and

(b) if given in the source, the name of the

(i) author, in the case of a work,

(ii) performer, in the case of a performer's performance,

(iii) maker, in the case of a sound recording, or

(iv) broadcaster, in the case of a communication signal.


The items in question meet all that criteria and MORE. There are no
incorrect facts, and all copyrights are acknowledged. This person is not
selling anything, nor is she attempting to profit from it. Ms. Paquette
pointed out that the images contained in the site could be used on other
sites and this location could effectively act as a repository for said
images, and thus we converted it to PDF. As usual, you imply I am attempting
to evade the law. That is the LAST time you will imply THAT, as it is
slander. As I said. if you could point out WHERE the PDF in question, falls
out of the scope of fair dealings, the entire site will be taken down.


Erroneous legal threats from your firm will not be tolerated. Nor will your
misleading my communications provider. Your client's penchant for frivolous
lawsuits and legal threats are well known. As such I am forwarding a printed
copy of this threat and all relevant documents to the Law Society of Upper
Canada. You will be held accountable for any damage, inconvenience, and
financial loss resulting from any action you may take. And you will likely
be disbarred if you do not look at the facts closer.


If you wish similar case law on this issue perhaps you might read Allen v.
Toronto Star Newspapers Limited [Indexed as: Allen v. Toronto Star
Newspapers Ltd.] 36 O.R. (3d) 201 [1997] O.J. No. 4363 Court File No. 740/95
Ontario Court (General Division), Divisional Court O'Driscoll, Flinn and
Sedgwick JJ. November 3, 1997 - .and read the WHOLE thing, and don't just
skim it.


Tim, I SHOULDN'T be better at this than you, yet it appears that I am.


As such, I am acting Pro Se in this matter. So you have to deal with me
directly. I am NOT playing this game with you people! Either take it to
court, or GO AWAY! If you want to take it to court, tell me when you are
filing, and I'll meet you there, and you can serve me in front of the
Officer of Oaths which will speed up the process nicely.


As with every OTHER "fact" mentioned in your threat, you have the address
wrong.


Call me at your convenience to discuss.


416-9$$-$$$$


You know who to ask for

Gerry Armstrong

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Mar 27, 2002, 2:02:56 AM3/27/02
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 01:08:54 -0500, "Scott Duncan"
<Scott....@nx2000.net> wrote:

Oh the arrogance of these criminals. It has already been shown to them
with irrebuttable law and proof, indeed they were slapped silent by
the proof, that the pages these scumbags are targeting infringe none
of the violently criminal cult's copyrights but are permitted and
encouraged by the same copyright law these shysters say is being
violated.

Sinnott knows this, and his threat that Scott's copying what was clear
fair use scholarship, and a public warning about this criminal
Scientology enterprise, is "direct copyright infringement" is a
criminal threat. I think you would might be wise to consider
Scientology's threats, especially with this one now from this obvious
barratrous and willfully lying Sinnott, to all levels of law
enforcement.

I have to do the same now, with the level of threat from these clear
criminals.

>
>We have reviewed your internet service provider's acceptable use policy,
>available at www1.worldcom.com/ca/aup, and note that it includes the
>following provision:
>
>The Worldcom Network may be used only for lawful purposes. Transmission,
>distribution or storage of any material in violation of any applicable law
>or regulation is prohibited. This includes, without limitation, material
>protected by copyright, trademark, trade secret, or other intellectual
>property right used without proper authorization, and material that is
>obscene, defamatory, constitutes an illegal threat, or violates export
>control laws.

What a load. This couldn't possibly be what it says. Unless the
criminal Scientology cult bought Worldcom and made its own acceptable
use policy complete idiocy.

This crook Sinnott has probably completely omitted the Worldcom
policy's fair use provision, just like Ava and Kobrin and the rest of
these crooks omit the provision from the copyright laws themselves.
Man you have to be a lying crook to be a Scientology lawyer. I'll bet
this liar Sinnott already has a track for these crooks.

http://www.christianlegalfellowship.org/Directors/sinnott4.html

This fellow is/was Treasurer of the Christian Legal Fellowship Board?
And he's working for this anti-christian vicious God's children-hating
psycholegal criminal cult. What gives?

Oh yeah, here we go:

http://www.wwwaif.net/GO/osanwo/k-thrt.htm
http://www.mystae.com/streams/gnosis/censorship.html

What a crook this guy is. I wonder how many people who've capitulated,
if any have, have been the cult's own "critics."

>
>We therefore demand that you remove all unauthorized reproductions of the
>Copyrighted Works from your websites immediately. If we do not receive a
>cooperative response prior to 2 April, 2002, we will ask your internet
>service provider to disconnect your websites from its network.

A threat, based on a complete lie. So there's some Canadian
intellectual property lawyers using Canadian law to harass Canadian
wogs (R) for an account fulf of filthy American Scientology dollars.
Oh, hell, what am I saying, Scientology can find or manufacture whores
anywhere on the globe. Clearly there will be people like Sinnott
willing to collaborate with this criminal conspiracy to subvert the
Canadian, or the whole global justice system, and destroy the whole
wog (R) civilization if there's a buck in it. And a perfectly loving
God lets people like Sinnott sleep at night. But maybe he'll wake up.

(c) Gerry Armstrong

>
>Yours truly,

roger gonnet

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Mar 27, 2002, 5:19:29 AM3/27/02
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"Scott Duncan" <Scott....@nx2000.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
3ca16131$1...@news2.lightlink.com...

I'd say that this dear attorney does not know that scientology criminal cult
does pay considerable sums so as to cut out hundreds of thousands of people
to learn their crimes, and that the criminal cult does pays millions or tens
of millions every year only to disclose the exact same documents that you
publish on your website.

So, I'd say: fuck off, you won't ever win this case of so-called

yduzitmatter

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Mar 27, 2002, 8:16:39 AM3/27/02
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Scott Duncan wrote:

Way to go Scott!!
We cannot allow the Canatdian System to be compromised by
this cult of greed and sleaze.

Kim P

ptsc

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Mar 27, 2002, 8:58:29 AM3/27/02
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 01:08:54 -0500, "Scott Duncan" <Scott....@nx2000.net>
wrote:

[From a S'nnott gram]

>Please be advised that converting the website to a pdf file does not avoid
>copyright infringement, but rather, it makes you liable for direct copyright
>infringement.

Good. So tell him to sue or shut the fuck up, then.

You can add that he is a whiny-ass cocksucker.

ptsc

Kaeli

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Mar 27, 2002, 9:05:40 AM3/27/02
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Hey Scott,

Way to go! :)
Please keep me informed.

Kaeli A.
(domain holder for entheta.ca)

Caroline Letkeman

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Mar 27, 2002, 9:52:34 AM3/27/02
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:05:40 GMT, Kaeli <ka...@klis.com> wrote:

>Hey Scott,
>
>Way to go! :)

What Kaeli sez.

>Please keep me informed.
>
>Kaeli A.
>(domain holder for entheta.ca)

...and she is some kinda Canadian. :-) Kaeli has been taking care of
my site since my first Kobrinogram in California last year, when ATT
Broadband/Mediaone shut me down with no warning and threatened to
shut down my adsl connection to boot. (But then what would you expect
from a broadband isp who uses fatpipeu to hire and train their
employees?)
http://www.broadbandweek.com/news/010507/010507_biz_fat.htm

Thanks so much Kaeli and Scott. Ladies and gentlemen, I think we got
us a concert.

Caroline

mad_kow

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Mar 27, 2002, 4:08:18 PM3/27/02
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"Scott Duncan" <Scott....@nx2000.net> wrote in message news:<3ca16131$1...@news2.lightlink.com>...

> Here is (for the public record) the latest threat to Caroline's site!
>

<snippety>

Thanks again Mr. Sinnott (why do I want to pronounce that 'snot'?). If
it weren't for your letter to Scott, I would never have gone to
Caroline's website to see what the beef was about. I wonder how many
hits entheta.ca has received since this letter?

Sinnott, you are looking less like a lawyer and more like a
prostitute, and the pimp is scientology.

Mad Kow

Christopher Wood

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Mar 27, 2002, 6:12:03 PM3/27/02
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Scott, you haven't lost your touch...

(BTW, I'm sitting here wondering just how much of this email to you is
from Tom Sinnott, and just how much originates from our favourite cult.)

Everybody can still go here and read Caroline Letkeman's PDF:

http://www.entheta.ca/caroline/

--

** Scientology's gate is down. **
Canadian Scientology information is now at:
http://xenu.ca

Deana M. Holmes

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Mar 27, 2002, 7:07:48 PM3/27/02
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"Scott Duncan" <Scott....@nx2000.net> wrote in
news:3ca16131$1...@news2.lightlink.com:

> Here is (for the public record) the latest threat to Caroline's site!

So are threats from Tim Sinnott called "s'notograms"? I would like some
advice here.

Deana
mir...@sonic.net

Zinj

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Mar 27, 2002, 7:13:06 PM3/27/02
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In article <Xns91DEAED7B798...@208.201.224.154>,
mir...@nospamsonic.net says...

How bout 'Boogermanias'?

'The Boogerman, he gwan getcha!'

Zinj

Scott Duncan

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Mar 28, 2002, 3:14:26 PM3/28/02
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What a relief! I thought I HAD lost it :)

I AM getting old ya know!

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Scott Duncan

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Mar 29, 2002, 11:10:19 PM3/29/02
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<snippies!>

> Way to go Scott!!
> We cannot allow the Canatdian System to be compromised by
> this cult of greed and sleaze.
>
> Kim P
>

I only do this sort of thing coz it gets the chicks hot! ;)


Android Cat

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Mar 29, 2002, 11:20:28 PM3/29/02
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"Scott Duncan" <Scott....@nx2000.net> wrote in message
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So you're saying it's a case of torts for tar... Never mind! :^)

Ron of that ilk.

Scott Duncan

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Mar 29, 2002, 11:41:47 PM3/29/02
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SHHHHHH! Geeeze, ya tryin' to ruin my action?!

:^P


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Steven Buehler

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> Here is (for the public record) the latest threat to Caroline's
> site!

Have you considered not waiting and sending a copy of this blatantly
falsely-based criminal threat to the local bar association?

SWB

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Scott Duncan

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Already Done :)


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