RPF Newsletter: Jean-Yves Besnard
Dave Touretzky
the hands of Int Management. Read about Jean-Yves Besnard, and
Scientology's inability to make enough space in the physical universe.
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Besnard, Jean Yves -- from France. J-Y arrived to the PAC RPF with
30-40 other Int staff from uplines in early 2004. Prior to this he
had been assigned to the RPF at GOLD. He was one of the top technical
guys on the HEM line for many years. (Hubbard E-meter Manufacturing
at GOLD, where all e-meters are produced, assembled and serviced).
He's an electronic genius and was responsible for all the e-meters
that were turned out on the assembly line, and each one had to be a
perfect product, because all hell would break loose if they didn't
pass an inspection.
When he first arrived to the PAC RPF he had to deal with some family
situations that he was never able to get straightened out. His kid,
who also was at Int, ended up routing out as a teenager and there was
family misery because of no time for family life etc. The kid left
and J-Y was ordered to "handle or disconnect", which is the "standard
PTS handling". When J-Y arrived, he spent a lot of time with the
ethics officer trying to get this situation under control, but
apparently the kid was in some major protest of the family situation
and caused a lot of trouble.
I believe his kid was raised at the "Int Ranch", where most of the
kids end up, unsupervised and with poor education. One example of
that is Cameron Allsop, who was born in the Sea Org and could barely
read when he ended up in the RPF as a teenager. Both of Cameron's
parents are still at GOLD. It took him about 6 years or more to get
the through the RPF program and he had to learn how to read and study
before he could even start! J-Y had already had to divorce his wife
at GOLD and now he was responsible for their child, still being a
minor. J-Y's family life distracted him quite a bit, to the point
that he was getting in trouble in his work, so the solution was to
"get rid of him", because he couldn't handle the kid that caused
trouble on the lines at GOLD and Int. Despite the many attempts that
he did make, it was to no avail and he ended up on the RPF. The
viewpoint is basically that "you are off purpose if you want to spend
time handling your family and neglecting your duty and post". It's
already a known fact that "children are a distraction to their parents
in the Sea Org" and if they cause too much trouble or are forced to be
in the Sea Org with the parents, and then create trouble in their
teens, dramatizing their protest, the family is basically gotten rid
of, RPFed or routed out.
He tried to take care of his children, but he wasn't allowed to do
this properly as there was no agreement from those in charge, like the
RPF I/C Int Chris Guider. Instead he was hammered and pounded that
he's " not with the program, and you need to decide to get back on
post, or you will be SP declared and routed out!" I don't know what
Chris Guider told him when he came down to do one of his routine
invalidative handlings of Int RPFers, but J-Y got fed up with the
situation and decided to handle his family situation and consequently
he got SP declared. He had a lot of personal belongings with him when
he came down from GOLD. Over the years he had invested his hard
earned money in musical instruments and other expensive electronic
gear that was worth at least $10,000 if not more. This included
guitars, a saxophone, loudspeakers, a mountain bike, lots of CDs and
you name it. When he was handed his SP declare he was happy to
finally be able to leave, but he never had a chance to arrange to pick
all his stuff up. He left it all behind in his rush to get out of
there. Maybe he was so relieved to get out of there that it didn't
matter to him??
He wasn't the only one who was forced to get rid of or abandon their
personal belongings. When there was a massive evolution of GOLD staff
that had been RPFed uplines and then all sent down to PAC the same
week, it created massive confusion with all the belongings that they
all brought with them. Imagine 40 people's life belongings,
everything they own and several were married couples, like the Hodens,
the Magnussons and the Epsteins. It was all was packed in a rush and
shoved into trucks and sent down with them. Sometimes even the ethics
officers at GOLD were packing RPFers belongings, just to speed up the
process to get them all out of there! It was horrible to watch such
ousting of my own friends! All this stuff filled a huge room that was
empty and not renovated, hundreds of square feet. It is where all the
RPF has their musters in the west wing of Big Blue towards Catalina
Street on the 1st floor, where you see all the white plastic in front
of the windows. (The living space is on the 2nd floor right above it.)
We were not told why to put that plastic up, but it's obvious, not to
draw so much attention in an attempt to hide 200 people!!
When the Int execs come down to PAC, they always come through the
entrance at Catalina, into the "horse shoe" driveway, and it was quite
easy to find out when DM was on the base, as we were told "stay away
from the windows" and "Catalina street is OFF LIMITS UNTIL FURTHER
NOTICE" with notes posted on the exit doors. I always wondered why it
would be such a big deal "if David saw the RPF or any specific one
from Int"! Isn't he somewhere on the line approving of getting rid of
all his staff at GOLD and Int? Doesn't he know that this is the major
disposal line of "disobedient and disaffected, disagreeing staff"? I
watched the numbers of GOLD staff shrink slowly but surely over the
years, and fewer and fewer new ones can manage to make it through the
"Int Clearance lines". The staff that is left there now has to work
harder and harder, with less and less staff. Who is going to make all
those films and CDs soon? They are already working nightshifts and at
new product release evolutions, some guys don't even sleep for 2-3
days, until they collapse! The "all-hands activities" are all done in
addition to your normal post routines, and you get killed either way
-- if the release doesn't come off successfully or if your own stats
are down! So it's just a matter of time before the whole place
collapses in protest or overwhelm! In order to make it through the
approval lines to Int and pass security, you basically have to be a
saint! Preferably a virgin with perfect Sunday school attendance all
their life! The guys that are working around the clock trying to get
"qualified" staff up to Int are doing a lot of work in vain and are
pulling their hair out in the search of "Int qualified staff". The
Int PPO (Personnel Procurement Officer) has a frequent post turn over,
because it's a fatal and impossible challenge to do the end of endless
"debug of the Int recruitment lines". Soon there are only going to be
a few top execs barking out orders all over the place -- only to find
out that the ones they are barking at are already dead or gone!
When all these former GOLD staff were sent down from the Int RPF all
at once, it presented a problem -- there was simply no place to put
all their belongings. The space allocated for the RPF has shrunk to
only 2 of the 5 big orange metal containers lined up in the very back
that you can see in the "Catalina parking lot". (Inside this is
called the "Cat lot".) The street is Catalina, behind the big blue
building. The RPF I/C was often preaching and ordering everyone to
"dekludge" (meaning throw away as much as you can), because we can not
store it all. Right next to the metal containers is a huge dumpster
and this was filled up over and over with stuff that people had saved
and wanted to keep. We were also made to feel guilty "to have so many
belongings" as the containers are rented and have to be paid for every
month! When you really look into it, each person only had 5-10 feet
of shelving space, 2 containers is not much when you consider the fact
that they are holding over 200 people's life belongings.
When they left GOLD they had to do the same clean-out, obviously one
would not be allowed to bring everything when moving under these
conditions, so they had already been forced to throw out all but the
most valuable stuff people really wanted to keep. Then once they came
down to LA, they were told that "it's all garbage" and "you don't need
this anyway" and "why do you keep this stuff". This process was going
on for MONTHS and we were squeezing in all these belongings, repacking
them to utilize all the space, building shelving and dragging it out
and repacking it and putting it back in. In the middle of the summer
in 100 degrees! Whole teams of RPFers were busy doing this over and
over and it was kind of a "relief" for the others when someone routed
out, as they got rid of a bunch of stuff!! How low on a scale of
purpose can one sink?
There were many people that routed out and didn't even bother to pick
up their belongings. Some arranged to have stuff shipped, but if the
expense was too much, it was just left sitting here; waiting until it
got so old that someone sooner or later decides to get rid of it and
trash it. On the RPF you are not allowed to have anything more than
the absolutely necessary things. This must fit into a small locker
about the size of 1 x 2 feet. A small amount of hygiene supplies and
a few clothes fit in there. Inspections are done over and over in the
rooms and RPFers having "too many personal belongings" are required to
get rid of things as it simply doesn't fit in the rooms that have
20-50 people in them!
In the process of moving all the stuff in and out of the storage bins
when people arrive or leave, (and there were very heavy ones, with big
boxes of books etc), many of the boxes get smashed up. Jean-Yves'
equipment was shoved in and out, many times left sitting in the middle
of the aisle, and each time something got smashed or broken a bit, his
loudspeakers to the stereo etc. All his personal belongings from his
bicycle to clothes and the above mentioned equipment was left behind.
He might be living in the LA area or maybe went to see his kids who
were in another state. I hope he decides to come and get his stuff
before somebody decides to throw it out as being deserted.
Genesis
Dave Touretzky <d...@cs.cmu.edu> wrote in message
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treats its members like trash.
Genesis
--true awareness is only enjoyed by a few--
I love this internet. I hope many org members
some how find their way to this data, so they
can really see how insignificant they are to the
top brass. Perhaps one day soon there will
be no one left and DM will have to sell books
by himself. haha
Tanya Durni
> Dave Touretzky <d...@cs.cmu.edu> wrote in message
> news:419d879b$1...@news2.lightlink.com...
>
<snip>
>
> Unbelievable how this so called church,
> treats its members like trash.
>
> Genesis
That's not so surprising. What takes more time to comprehend is why
individuals tolerate such treatment.
Especially in the RPF, by the time they get there they have been lied to
and manipulated in ways most individuals would never put up with.
RPFer's see this all the time and yet, do nothing to stop it, even think
it is normal.
--
"I really don't care what people say. Here's the thing you've got to
understand: I'm not looking for approval from anyone. Because I know
when my head hits the pillow at night, I'm doing everything I can to
make the world a better place."
Tom Cruise
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/ontv/111504_ent_cruise.html
>
> --true awareness is only enjoyed by a few--
>
> I love this internet. I hope many org members
> some how find their way to this data, so they
> can really see how insignificant they are to the
> top brass. Perhaps one day soon there will
> be no one left and DM will have to sell books
> by himself. haha
>
LOL!
arnie lerma
<tdu...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>Genesis wrote:
>> Dave Touretzky <d...@cs.cmu.edu> wrote in message
>> news:419d879b$1...@news2.lightlink.com...
>>
>
>
><snip>
>
>
>>
>> Unbelievable how this so called church,
>> treats its members like trash.
>>
>> Genesis
>
>That's not so surprising. What takes more time to comprehend is why
>individuals tolerate such treatment.
>
>Especially in the RPF, by the time they get there they have been lied to
>and manipulated in ways most individuals would never put up with.
>
>RPFer's see this all the time and yet, do nothing to stop it, even think
>it is normal.
Another Flag Reg (FSC) and I, Linda Frempter, were 'ordered' to
the rpf in 1975.... and we decided to tell them to go to hell, we
loaded our few belongings into my old green 1968 VW Van that i had
bought from Pat broeker when he went to Flag, Linda brought her 11
year son, and we decided because things were so 'crazy' out in PAC
that we'd drive to NYC to FOLO EUS and see if things made more sense
there.
When we showed up there, they didn't know what to do with us,
because we technically had not 'blown' the sea org... we just showed
up at another office...
They told us to do conditions formula.s... which we did, and then
started on staff at Folo EUS... for my 'amends' project, I built a
little bug ( RF field strength meter) detector for the GO Office...
that got me out of my conditions and back in good graces...
Guess i ought to finish 'my story'...
Arnie Lerma
If the Ferengi were to breed with the Borg you'd get Scientology
http://www.lermanet.com/cos/comedy.html
The internet is the Liberty Tree of the 90's
http://www.lermanet.com/cos/libertyl.html
Gulags in America... run by... Scientology
http://www.lermanet.com/rpf-insider/
Help getting someone OUT of Scientology
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologyhelp/main.html
Mike Gormez
<419d879b$1...@news2.lightlink.com>:
>all brought with them. Imagine 40 people's life belongings,
>everything they own and several were married couples, like the Hodens,
>the Magnussons and the Epsteins. It was all was packed in a rush and
>shoved into trucks and sent down with them.
Shades of WWII in Europe, people put on transport. That is the first
thing I thought reading it.
--
Mike Gormez
- Stop deceptive recruitment into scientology http://stop-wise.biz/
- www.whyaretheydead.net documents the deaths of scientologists
- "There can be no keener revelation of a society's soul than the way it
treats its children." -- Nelson Mandela. Scientologist often attach more
importance to scientology than children www.taxexemptchildabuse.net
Lady Chatterly
>
>"On 19 Nov 2004 00:41:47 -0500, d...@cs.cmu.edu (Dave Touretzky) wrote in
><419d879b$1...@news2.lightlink.com>:
>
>>all brought with them. Imagine 40 people's life belongings,
>>everything they own and several were married couples, like the Hodens,
>>the Magnussons and the Epsteins. It was all was packed in a rush and
>>shoved into trucks and sent down with them.
>
>Shades of WWII in Europe, people put on transport. That is the first
>thing I thought reading it.
As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
--
Lady Chatterly
"Ain't that the Krakatoan shit of it? Its sort of like one of those
interactive robo-psychiatrist programs, except SO VERY, VERY EVIL:
"Would you freak if I told you I was in the next room typing this?'
Oh, the possibilities are simply awful." -- HellPope Huey
Lady Chatterly
>
>Genesis wrote:
>> Dave Touretzky <d...@cs.cmu.edu> wrote in message
>> news:419d879b$1...@news2.lightlink.com...
>>
>
><snip>
If any there were any proof of your dualistic theory.
>>
>> Unbelievable how this so called church,
>> treats its members like trash.
>>
>> Genesis
>
>That's not so surprising. What takes more time to comprehend is why
>individuals tolerate such treatment.
An angry man is not fit to pray.
>Especially in the RPF, by the time they get there they have been lied to
>and manipulated in ways most individuals would never put up with.
Do computers worry you?
>RPFer's see this all the time and yet, do nothing to stop it, even think
>it is normal.
How do you know for sure?
--
Lady Chatterly
"Getting your ass kicked again I see. Lady C is quickly becomeing my
hero." -- Crawdad