To Harold Bezazian In Answer to his RFW Letter
Magoo
as he's now written a letter which RFW has posted, obviously trying to
decrease the fact that Scientology breaks up families, and decrease their
abuses of medicine. Please let me clarify what did happen, and to the OSA
floormats, spare us your endless comments.
This is to Harold. He can answer, or not. I doubt he will, as he's too
afraid of the critics. Great for an OT 8, huh?
Answer to Harold Bezazian: Former Husband and his False Story about Me on
RFW
Here's the story, with my comments between:
To Religious Freedom Watch:
I was married to Tory Christman for 26 years. She left me in July 2000 while
I was away on a business trip.
<As I told Harold many times, "I didn't ever leave you: I LEFT THE CULT OF
SCIENTOLOGY".>
When I spoke to her the night of July 19, 2000, she said she was leaving for
a while and would be home in a week or two. She lied repeatedly about where
she was going, and refused to talk to me any further about what was going
on. When I asked her why she was leaving, she told me to call our friends
and they'd tell me what was happening. She said she had to go and hung up.
<I didn't lie; I just said I couldn't tell him who I was going to see. As it
was, I was trying to make a transition OUT of Scientology, and I knew
Harold, who was basically born into Scientology, would not agree with me. >
I called our friends and they told me that Tory was going to Florida and
would be changing planes in Chicago the next morning.
<<And how did "Our friends" Know that I was going to Florida? I guess ol
Harold doesn't care about that personal intrusion into my life, but I sure
did!>>
I drove to Chicago and stopped at my sister's house. She said she'd had a
long talk with Tory and Tory told her that she was leaving me,
<<I didn't say ever that I was leaving my husband: I said I was leaving
Scientology. He can pretend forever that his version is true, but he and I
both know I spent months trying to get him to LOOK and not divorce me over
this. My guess is he or his new wife are now trying to 'get services" and
part of their PTS Handling is to "Handle Tory". Ya......sure pal.>>
saying she was leaving Scientology and was unhappy with our relationship.
<<I never said I was unhappy with our relationship, and my leaving had
N O T H I N G to do with leaving him, but everything to do with leaving
Scientology. Again, this is more of the attempted "Handle".trying to steer
this OFF of what it really is: My leaving Scientology, and also, that
Scientology breaks up families, which it continuously does>
Tory also told my mother, step-father and brother that she was leaving me,
<<LOL>>>>>>>>Harold doesn't have a Step-Father, and his father was dead when
I left. Had he been alive, he would have cheered me on, as his OT 7 "Win"
was this:
"Now I can spend *MY* money with whatever Charity I want". I didn't tell his
Mother I was leaving him, or his brother. That's a flat out lie.>>
saying it was no big deal as we weren't getting along anyway. (All this
from a woman who told me two weeks earlier that I'd thrown her "the best
birthday party ever and that I was the most wonderful husband in the
world.")
<<This is truly sad. I never said that, period. I'm very sorry to hear that
my x-husband has stooped this low. Obviously Scientology is on him. Guess
what? It isn't working, as usual. Lies never work, didn't you know that by
now?>>
I drove to the airport and met Tory as she was changing planes. I told her I'd
cancelled the rest of the business trip and wanted to go to a resort and
talk with her and find out what was going on.
<<Ok, let's get the facts straight. Yes, he did arrive at the Chicago
airport as I was changing lanes, telling me he just happened to be there.
(Right!) Then he told me, "We need to go on a vacation". I knew what that
meant, as I knew what I'd done with Bill Yaude. Because I had signed a
waiver promising to NEVER tell anyone, including husband, friends,
Executives of Scientology, Ethics officers, Auditors, etc.I'd never told him
about the Top Secret OSA Int Mafia, but I knew THEY knew, And suddenly their
'bird' was flying the coop! I knew most probably they'd lock me up in some
cabin, and do the Introspection Rundown on me, as they did with Lisa
McPherson, and I knew Yaude would tell him it was the right thing, and I
knew HE trusted Yaude as much as I had, until he screwed me. Thus, I said,
"No...I need to go to this on my own, and then we'll sort it all out". I
felt like I was making a transition out of Hell....and needed to get strong
and clear before I presented it all to him. That's the facts>>
She told me she did not want to be a Scientologist anymore and that she was
leaving the Church. I said, "Okay, you don't have to be a Scientologist if
you don't want to, just don't leave me. Let's go away by ourselves." She
told me, "No way, my ticket is paid for, I have to go." She then threatened
to have me arrested if I "bothered" her again.
<<Facts: After I said "No---I need to go by myself and sort this out".OSA
arrived in the airport. I was truly pissed then and said, "I thought you
were just here??" This was a total lie, and ODS came at me with a pile of
papers I had to read.
IT was at that time that I said, "IF I have to I'll call the police: I AM
Getting in that plane!" (( Remember: He's leaving out that the Vice
President of Scientology had met me at LAX, told me, "We know where you're
going and you're not going to see those people". Also, she followed me
around for nearly an hour while we got another ticket, as my plane had been
cancelled. Earlier than that, my van had been *anonymously* cancelled, so I'd
had enough of these OSA manipulation techniques))>>
I then told her I'd get a ticket and fly with her and we could talk. She
repeated that she'd have me arrested if I didn't leave her alone. I took a
later flight to Florida and found her in an airport hotel.
<<True....I did say that, as he was there with OSA, which he manages to
leave out each time>>>
I tried to talk to her again in private but she refused, saying she'd only
talk to me in the presence of her new friends. She again threatened to call
security if I insisted on talking with her away from her new friends. I took
a room and invited her up for dinner and a movie. She said "maybe later" but
she never called me.
The next day I called her to talk and she said she was sleeping and asked if
I could bring her some toiletries. When I went to set them outside her room,
the door of the next room opened and she was sitting on the bed talking to
one of her new friends. She was in her night gown. She didn't want to talk
to me and she got angry when I questioned the motives of her new friends. I
talked to her once more that night with her friends waiting in the next room
<<For some reason this man has a HUGE hang up on my sitting and talking with
some people in my flannel nightgown that covered me from head to toe. He
leaves out that I'd just left ALL of Scientology, and felt practically nude
telling my story on the Internet. Somehow I felt far more covered up than he
seems to think, but then, he hadn't gone through what I had, either.
Whatever, it was a mute point that he constantly tries to make into
something. We who were there laugh at it, as it was such a nothing deal.
Also, I did try to talk with him, but he only wanted to watch a movie. I
found that amazing. I was literally transforming out of this mind control
cult, and he wanted to go watch a movie?>>
After that night, she was out of touch for weeks. Whenever she called me she
needed money and her epilepsy medicine, both of which I arranged for her. As
a side note, Tory has complained to reporters that the Church ordered her to
stop taking her medication. This is a complete fabrication. She wanted to
quit taking the medicine because she didn't like it,
<<That is SUCH a lie.....I'm astounded. He wasn't even there, I didn't even
know Harold Bezazian when I was ordered to get off of my medication, but I
certainly didn't do it because I didn't like the medication! Right, I wanted
to roll around in the Scientology orgs having Grand Mal Seizures.....sure
pal. He knows the truth about this totally and utterly as it came up
eternally while I was "in" Scientology. Why he's lying about it now, I do
not know, but I'm sorry for him.>>
but she was never told to do so by the Church at any time since I'd met her
in 1974.
<<The point I speak of mainly about being ordered off my medication was when
I was in the Sea Org, years before I even knew Harold, and yes, I was most
definitely told I had to get off of my medication, to be in the Sea Org, and
he knows this. I did fight the entire BS about Epilepsy for years, including
Flag trying to throw me off the Flag Land base, which he knows of, also, and
won't admit. My very fight about this at Flag helped his very own Mother do
OT 8, as they had told her she had to get off of her heart medication to go
onto the Freewinds. After I got this medical issue cleared up via RTC, she
got an Ok to do with, on her medication. He knows this very well >>
In fact, she was told by the Church and by a Scientologist doctor that it
was not necessary for her to stop taking her medicine.
<<Yes, ~~after~~ a HUGE fight I had ..taking it all the way to RTC, and
after one month, in 1989, (which he was there for all of this)..finally it
came down I was OK to do OT 4-8, and a Senior C/S Int Bulletin was written,
with me as the first example, which he knows, too. This is amazing that he
is lying for Scientology---it shows what it means to be an OT 8!>>
Several months later Tory called me saying she was going to move to Florida
permanently and was coming home to pack. She wanted her car serviced so she
could drive it cross country. When she finally arrived home, she showed up
with her friend Nancy Many who helped her set up an inexpensive divorce
agreement by recommending we utilize "We the People" - a business which does
this. Tory made the appointment and she wanted me to be the petitioner, as
she was going to move to Florida and it'd be easier for them to contact me.
<<Nooooooooooooooo.Harold said he was divorcing me as he insisted, "You
left me" and refused to discuss what I had learned, at all. He wanted the
divorce, and when she said "Someone has to initiate it" I said I wasn't
going to, so Harold did. It had nothing to do with me going to Florida>>
After helping her pack for a month, she decided she wasn't going to go. She
thought we could live in the house and split the rent. I agreed to this in
the hopes of repairing our marriage. But in the six months we lived under
this arrangement, I never saw a dime from her. I covered all the rent,
utilities, phone, food, etc. During this time she tried several jobs, but
never made a go of it. I helped her and coached her and set up a financial
plan for her, but to no avail.
<< In the 6months we lived together, I admit I was quit a mess. I was crying
all the time, trying to get my husband to realize I hadn't left him; I'd
left the CULT of Scientology! He refused to listen, ever. We even had a
garage sale and as I sat inside crying, he rapidly sold off all of the
things we loved. He'd cut all of his pictures out of our Wedding Album, and
sat outside burning God knows what that he was trying to hide. Later I
realized he'd burned all of my receipts, he'd given or sold all of our
E-meters (Which I never got a dime for), and all of our LRH Library, again,
which I never got a dime for. No, I didn't pay for rent, but he never asked,
and as my husband he always had paid for it, and still was my husband. I did
give him half of what I got for selling my Grand piano, which was I believe
$2,000. He never coached me on any financial plan. He left me..without any
alimony, which he told me, "I'd rather go to prison than give you a dime".
He finally agreed to assist me with Health insurance money, and this I am
grateful for.
She finally left permanently.
<<*** I*** am still living in the very house we lived in for 20 years. He
obviously left me, or he'd be here, wouldn't he? Harold Bezazian is
re-married and I believe his new wife is on the Bridge in Scientology, which
may be what this is all about, who knows?>>
She now has been quoted a number of times over the years as saying I left
her. It is time to put this lie to rest once and for all.
<<You shall never put that to rest, as it's true: You left me, and did so
without ever even really asking me what happened.>>
She left me and our 26-year marriage with no notice at all and resisted all
attempts to put our relationship back together.
<<And when was that? When you were with OSA in Chicago, or Bill Yaude in
Clearwater? Come on, man!>>
That is a truth she can never run away from no matter how far she goes.
<< Harold Bezazian..I wish you well. You can post as many lies about me to
try to handle whatever Scientology says they need, but you and I know the
truth.
I know this, as an "OT"....I doubt you can even remember the truth. You will
believe what you need to believe, so you can do Scientology. How pathetic is
that?>>
<<Good night, Harold Bezazian.and good luck!>>
Tory Christman
Happy to be free From Scientology!
www.lermanet.com/cos/toryonosahtm.
www.altreligionscientology.org
Harold Bezazian
--
Tory/Magoo~Dancing in the moonlight~
In Scientology for 30 years, out happily for 5 years!
For thinking and speaking my mind, Scientology declared me
a 'suppressive person' and expelled me from their so called 'church'
Free at LAST!
http://www.xenu.net, www.xenutv.com
http://www.torymagoo.org, www.altreligionscientology.net
http://www.lermanet.com/cos/toryonosa.htm
"Those that give up essential liberty
to purchase a little temporary safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin
mag...@charter.net
Burbank, CA
(818) 841-3632
Harold Bazazian
Now I know why you kept looking at me and then the doormat that day, me and
the doormat, me and...
Harold Bazazian, OSA Doormat
--
What's the cost of betraying my ex-wife, Tory, when compared to losing my
eternity? :)
L Ron Hubbard's Affirmations have been a great inspiration to so many. Read
about them here:
http://www.lermanet2.com/reference/Admissions.pdf
or
http://www.b-org.demon.nl/scn/nl/english/admissions-hubbard.html
tobyty...@yahoo.com
Magoo wrote:
> I guess Harold Bezazian is trying to do more Scientology services,
> as he's now written a letter which RFW has posted, obviously trying to
> decrease the fact that Scientology breaks up families, and decrease their
> abuses of medicine. Please let me clarify what did happen, and to the OSA
> floormats, spare us your endless comments.
<snippety doo dah>
Yeah, well, it's another one of those "Who do we believe?" deals.
Who do we believe:
Tory, one of the most open, accesible, credible, respected, and - dare
I say it - beloved posters on a.r.s.
OR
The Krazy Kooky Kult Of $cientology????
It's a no-brainer, folks....
Peace,
Toby
--
"Sure, not smoking ENOUGH can cause cancer..." --- L. Ron Hubbard
roger gonnet
"Magoo" <mag...@charter.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
2ssSf.216$Sf...@fe06.lga...
Not only a flat out lie, but besides, it would either demonstrate that:
- Harold does not even know when his father died, or that he's too much
brainwashed to remind this, or that he does not even care to lie convincingly!
That's incredible indeed!
>
> saying it was no big deal as we weren't getting along anyway. (All this from
> a woman who told me two weeks earlier that I'd thrown her "the best birthday
> party ever and that I was the most wonderful husband in the world.")
>
> <<This is truly sad. I never said that, period. I'm very sorry to hear that my
> x-husband has stooped this low. Obviously Scientology is on him. Guess what?
> It isn't working, as usual. Lies never work, didn't you know that by now?>>
perhaps he's not even conscious of what he is supposed to have written: are you
sure HE wrote all these stupidities?
>
> I drove to the airport and met Tory as she was changing planes. I told her I'd
> cancelled the rest of the business trip and wanted to go to a resort and talk
> with her and find out what was going on.
>
> <<Ok, let's get the facts straight. Yes, he did arrive at the Chicago airport
> as I was changing lanes, telling me he just happened to be there. (Right!)
> Then he told me, "We need to go on a vacation". I knew what that meant, as I
> knew what I'd done with Bill Yaude. Because I had signed a waiver promising to
> NEVER tell anyone, including husband, friends, Executives of Scientology,
> Ethics officers, Auditors, etc.I'd never told him about the Top Secret OSA Int
> Mafia, but I knew THEY knew, And suddenly their 'bird' was flying the coop! I
> knew most probably they'd lock me up in some cabin, and do the Introspection
> Rundown on me, as they did with Lisa
>
> McPherson, and I knew Yaude would tell him it was the right thing, and I knew
> HE trusted Yaude as much as I had, until he screwed me. Thus, I said, "No...I
> need to go to this on my own, and then we'll sort it all out". I felt like I
> was making a transition out of Hell....and needed to get strong and clear
> before I presented it all to him. That's the facts>>
Lisa got indeed an endless "Vacation".
he vacated once for all.
Her friends were vacated from her presence, yes.
That's not R2-45, it's rather End-of-cycle please --- or we'll do that for you.
Interesting religion!
Thanks for the interesting report, Tory. Proves once more that any scientologist
speaking of his cult or things related to his cult is just a liar.
r
r
>
realpch
Why nice to see you again Toby. You put things so clearly!
Peach
Phil Scott
Hi Tory... this is a good thing... your reply is in writing
and you will probably log it to your web site... so there it
is with the rest of the story just like Walter Winchell.
The hot info .... for everyone to see, and in the end no
doubt.... as scientology blows off more people every day in
every way... Harold will read it. He can start his healing
then.
So... we have lived this life ..
we have come this far... and some of have learned more about
life than we could have in any other way.
When you speak particularly, thousands of other people,
sometimes millions at a time, learn something about life.
How many ever come that far? How many can even dream of
clearing those hurdles?
Not too many.
Accordingly the lessons are priceless as they go onto the
worlds media.
Had Elrong done that well? How about DM... or the rest of
them who live by covert threats and lies? Not hardly..not
even close.
And now look who stands with her charisma glowing... and her
phone ringing from the national press.
Phil Scott
"Magoo" <mag...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Mark Bunker
"Magoo" <mag...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Susan
"Phil Scott" <phil...@philscott.net> wrote in message
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> .
> Hi Tory... this is a good thing... your reply is in writing and you will
> probably log it to your web site... so there it is with the rest of the
> story just like Walter Winchell.
>
> The hot info .... for everyone to see, and in the end no doubt.... as
> scientology blows off more people every day in every way... Harold will
> read it. He can start his healing then.
>
> So... we have lived this life ..
>
> we have come this far... and some of have learned more about life than we
> could have in any other way.
>
> When you speak particularly, thousands of other people, sometimes millions
> at a time, learn something about life. How many ever come that far? How
> many can even dream of clearing those hurdles?
>
>
> Not too many.
> Accordingly the lessons are priceless as they go onto the worlds media.
>
>
> Had Elrong done that well? How about DM... or the rest of them who live
> by covert threats and lies? Not hardly..not even close.
>
> And now look who stands with her charisma glowing... and her phone
> ringing from the national press.
>
>
>
>
> Phil Scott
Phil,
Superbly stated.
Susan
barbz
--
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC
xenu...@netscape.net
"Every week, every month, every year, every decade and now
every century, Scientology does weird and stupid things
to damage its own reputation."
-Steve Zadarnowski
"Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
Scientology."
-ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.
$cientology oozes _under_ terrorists to hide."
-Chris Leithiser
Orkeltatte aka Ulf Brettstam
went astray from the cultic way to tell her story
the cult went frantic,
tried to handle mrs Fantastic
alas the poor cult knew little of real Tory
from
Ulf
with my deepest respect
Harold Bazazian
Now I know why you kept looking at me and then the doormat that day, me and
Magoo
<tobyty...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1142582047.1...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
Thank you very much, Toby! I appreciate your kind words.
Good to see you here :)
My best to you,
Tory/Magoo~~
Damned Clams!
<snip proof of Tory suffering false light invasion of privacy>
> <<Ok, let's get the facts straight. Yes, he did arrive at the Chicago
> airport as I was changing lanes, telling me he just happened to be there.
> (Right!) Then he told me, "We need to go on a vacation". I knew what that
> meant, as I knew what I'd done with Bill Yaude. Because I had signed a
> waiver promising to NEVER tell anyone, including husband, friends,
> Executives of Scientology, Ethics officers, Auditors, etc.I'd never told him
> about the Top Secret OSA Int Mafia, but I knew THEY knew, And suddenly their
> 'bird' was flying the coop! I knew most probably they'd lock me up in some
> cabin, and do the Introspection Rundown on me, as they did with Lisa
> McPherson, and I knew Yaude would tell him it was the right thing, and I
> knew HE trusted Yaude as much as I had, until he screwed me.
<snip further proof of Tory suffering false light invasion of privacy>
This display of the $cientology kook cult's shameless intimidation goes
beyonds all bounds of decency.
To manipulate a person's partner (or former partner) to further a hate
campaign and cover up crimes is sick enough, but to do so and expose
their partner / ex partner to false light invasion of privacy is beyond
disgusting.
Tory, sorry to see these evil bastards are doing this to you.
Magoo
"Susan" <enlighte...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gaKdnVZ9HsTxEofZ...@comcast.com...
I agree, Phil. Thank you both!
And there's some good news coming out soon, I just found out
tonight. Scientology's Karma is never ending :) When ~will~ they learn?
All the best.....
Tory/Magoo~~
Magoo
"Mark Bunker" <markb...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Well, this is just sad. I'm sorry he's doing this to you, Tory.
Thanks, Mark.......I appreciate your concern, but hey, I'm more sorry for
him. How utterly sad that he's stooped to ~this~level! He was never that
kind of guy, I'm truly kind of amazed.
I figure it's either one of two things: One: he or his new wife want some
special auditing (she possibly the OT levels, he??? God knows as he's OT 8,
and was quite screwed up by that level)..........and thus they're trying to
do some 'Handle' to "Make a blow to the enemy".
or
Two: Bill Yaude got orders from the Exec's that they need some
"Wins" against the critics to announce at the LRH B-Day event,
so possibly this was part of that, or even part of a stat report on "Number
of Scientology Enemies they've handled"....which as you can see, failed once
again. Either way, someone squeezed him for this, IF he even wrote it.
He doesn't write on a computer, so no doubt Yaude interviewed him, and Bill
wrote it. My guess is it was a combination deal. Either way, way to go OSA!
I had 3 calls tonight from media. Your Karma is rolling!!!
All the best :)
Tory/Magoo~~
Barbara Schwarz
Magoo schrieb:
> I guess Harold Bezazian
Tory, did you tell your former husband all about your life bevor you
met him? I doubt it.
Anyway, you were in no cult. You were just a public. All you had to do,
in case you didn't want to continue with SCN, to become INACTIVE. Your
act that you had to leave a cult makes all other SCN public and staff
laugh out out!
There are thousands of Scientologists who just decided to be inactive
in Scientology and nobody forces them to go back in. You could have
done same and you still would have your husband and your son. But how
can you expect them to live with you when you are filled up by the
hatred and fanatism of the anti-religious extremists?
It's so easy to stop Scientology. You also could have joined another
religion. But what did you do? You left husband and son just to hang
out with the anti-religious extremists and become one yourself.
You are a scam, Tory.
--
Barbara Schwarz
Looking for the original Mark (Marty) Rathbun. (No impostor, please!)
--
L. Ron Hubbard: "THE CRIMINAL ACCUSES OTHERS OF THINGS WHICH HE HIMSELF
IS DOING. THE CRIMINAL MIND RELENTLESSLY SEEKS TO DESTROY ANYONE IT
IMAGINES MIGHT EXPOSE IT. THE CRIMINAL ONLY SEES OTHERS AS HE HIMSELF
IS."
L. Ron Hubbard: "HONEST PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS, TOO."
http://www.thunderstar.net/~Schwarz/
(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities.)
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/
Read the pages on terrorist-friendly Andreas Heldal-Lund (arrested for
harassment):
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund04.html
Magoo
"Damned Clams!" <damn....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Magoo wrote:
>
> <snip proof of Tory suffering false light invasion of privacy>
>
>> <<Ok, let's get the facts straight. Yes, he did arrive at the Chicago
>> airport as I was changing lanes, telling me he just happened to be there.
>> (Right!) Then he told me, "We need to go on a vacation". I knew what that
>> meant, as I knew what I'd done with Bill Yaude. Because I had signed a
>> waiver promising to NEVER tell anyone, including husband, friends,
>> Executives of Scientology, Ethics officers, Auditors, etc.I'd never told
>> him
>> about the Top Secret OSA Int Mafia, but I knew THEY knew, And suddenly
>> their
>> 'bird' was flying the coop! I knew most probably they'd lock me up in
>> some
>> cabin, and do the Introspection Rundown on me, as they did with Lisa
>> McPherson, and I knew Yaude would tell him it was the right thing, and I
>> knew HE trusted Yaude as much as I had, until he screwed me.
>
> <snip further proof of Tory suffering false light invasion of privacy>
>
> This display of the $cientology kook cult's shameless intimidation goes
> beyonds all bounds of decency.
>
> To manipulate a person's partner (or former partner) to further a hate
> campaign and cover up crimes is sick enough, but to do so and expose
> their partner / ex partner to false light invasion of privacy is beyond
> disgusting.
>
> Tory, sorry to see these evil bastards are doing this to you.
Well, thank you. I look at all of this as education. It ~shows~ people
what actually happens within the walls of Scientology, and outside. I've
been speaking out since I left, mainly due to Scientology breaking up
families: Not just one or two families....but TONS of families.
As sad as this is to read that my x-husband, a man who was always quite
strong and someone I fell in love with because he did
stand up to them in 1973, now has been squeezed by Scientology to lie about
me, his wife of 27 Y E A R S...............well, it certainly shows what
goes down...doesn't it?
We'll see what evolves. Hopefully one day he wakes up...although I won't
hold my breath.
My best :)
Tory/Magoo~~
Magoo
"Orkeltatte aka Ulf Brettstam" <orkel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142612210....@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
Awwwwwwwww...thank you! I love that :)
Best to you, 2...Ulf,
Tory/Magoo~~
>
wbarwell
>
> Magoo schrieb:
>
>> I guess Harold Bezazian
>
> Tory, did you tell your former husband all about your life bevor you
> met him? I doubt it.
Did you tell Marty yours before you married him?
--
So you want to fight the Master!
First you must fight my brother Chang!
Cheerful Charlie
I am being defamed and forged here
wbarwell schrieb:
> Barbara Schwarz wrote:
>
> >
> > Magoo schrieb:
> >
> >> I guess Harold Bezazian
> >
> > Tory, did you tell your former husband all about your life bevor you
> > met him? I doubt it.
>
> Did you tell Marty yours before you married him?
Of course.
--
Barbara Schwarz
Looking for the original Mark (Marty) Rathbun. (No impostor, please!)
--
L. Ron Hubbard: "THE CRIMINAL ACCUSES OTHERS OF THINGS WHICH HE HIMSELF
IS DOING. THE CRIMINAL MIND RELENTLESSLY SEEKS TO DESTROY ANYONE IT
IMAGINES MIGHT EXPOSE IT. THE CRIMINAL ONLY SEES OTHERS AS HE HIMSELF
IS."
L. Ron Hubbard: "HONEST PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS, TOO."
http://www.thunderstar.net/~Schwarz/
(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities.)
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/
Read the pages on terrorist-friendly Andreas Heldal-Lund (arrested for
harassment):
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund04.html
>
>
>
>
wbarwell
You are crazy and stupid
Schwarz is an insane woman! Too bad Scientology
can't help with that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Schwarz
Many of these FOIA requests attempt to
substantiate her claims that she is the
granddaughter of President Dwight D. Eisenhower
and the daughter of Church of Scientology founder
L. Ron Hubbard, that she lived in a secret
submarine base under the Great Salt Lake (until
age four), that she was kidnapped as a child by
Nazis and taken to Germany, and that her alleged
husband Mark "Marty" Rathbun, who she alleges is
the secret heir to the Rothschild fortune, was
wrongfully arrested in Madrid, Spain in 1988 and
taken to the United States, where she believes he
is secretly being held.
..
A church official has stated that
Mr. Rathbun has no knowledge of Schwarz and cannot
explain her behaviour.)
Magoo
"wbarwell" <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:121n1id...@corp.supernews.com...
> Barbara Schwarz wrote:
>
>>
>> Magoo schrieb:
>>
>>> I guess Harold Bezazian
>>
>> Tory, did you tell your former husband all about your life bevor you
>> met him?
I doubt it.
Tory: That's your problem, girlie.............you don't know ~anything~.
Quit *guessing*...you're off each time.
Tory/Magoo!
tobyty...@yahoo.com
<Looney toonery snipped>
> You are a scam, Tory.
Well, that all depends on who you believe has more credibility, now,
doesn't it, Barbara? So, who's more credible, you, or Tory? Well, let's
try a little comparison test:
TORY - thinks people should investigate both sides of the Scientology
controversy and make up their own minds.
BARBARA SCHWARZ - thinks Nazi psychiatrists control everyone through
"ear implants."
So...obviously that round goes to Tory...
TORY - thinks Scientology should stop breaking up families with their
"disconnection" policy.
BARBARA SCHWARZ - thinks she lived in a domed city called "Chattanooga"
UNDER the Great Salt Lake in Utah.
Yeah...another point on Tory's side of the board...
TORY - thinks Scientology should end their harassment and dirty tricks
campaigns ("fair game") against critics and dissidents.
BARBARA SCHWARZ - thinks she is the daughter of L. Ron Hubbard and the
granddaughter of Dwight Eisenhower.
Uh huh...So far it's a shut-out for Tory...
TORY - thinks Scientologists should not be charged outrageous fees for
services that are often delivered incorrectly or not delivered at all.
BARBARA SCHWARZ - thinks the Nazis are using robotic killer bees and
remote controlled bacteria to attack people and cause illness.
Ok, I'm gonna have to invoke the Mercy Rule here and call this one in
favor of Tory.....
Peace,
Toby
--
"Sure, not smoking ENOUGH can cause cancer..." --- L. Jack Hubbard, or
Doctor Marshall, or Ron Marlboro, whatever...
barbz
Hell, does Marty even KNOW she married him?
Famous...@artlover.com
wbarwell wrote:
> I am being defamed and forged here wrote:
>
> You are crazy and stupid
WILLIAM CHARLES BARWELL IS GOING TO THE SLAMMER!
Drunk libeler William Barwell makes death threats and threats of
violence. Supernews, cancel his service! Barwell is the hate monger and
he accuses innocent people of what he is doing: hate, libel,
harassment, spam and defamation.
"Fuck with me asshole, and I will work like a rabid
raccoon overtime to pull Schwarz's plug.
You wanna try me!?" William Barwell and his fanatical threat against
Ms. Schwarz and Mr. Sullivan. Looks like Barwell want to kill them.
Police, arrest Barwell!
BARWELL, WE ARE TIRED OF THE DAILY MASSIVE WILLIAM CHARLES BARWELL
SPAM, LIES, DEFAMATION, ABUSE AND HARASSMENT.
Watch the man Barwell dig his grave deeper & deeper, laughing the
whole way. Dupes Dave Touretzky, Andreas Heldal Lund and Arnie Lerma
are Barwell's idols. It knocks the socks off each decent person!
Dupe Dave Touretzky is not just into porn but also into bomb
instruction and anti-religious persecution:
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky00.html
He is being busted by his students:
http://groups.google.com/group/pgh.general/msg/534d5530d93eef47?hl=de&
Handcuffed dupe Andreas Heldal Lund is not just into dirty drawings but
also into associating with terrorist and harassing religions:
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund01.html
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"...like you who have strutted here for a while and limped off,
credibility zero."
- William Charles Barwell (wbarw...@mylinuxisp.com)
<news:410ef98c$0$168$811e...@news.mylinuxisp.com>...
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Delusional, dishonest, hippocrite William Charles Barwell
wants to talk about credibility zero? Dupe Charlie tried
his hand at revisionism regarding Arnie Lerma:
"Carto, founder of the Liberty Lobby, was
by far the most successful and influential
American anti-Semite of the 1970s."
- McVay, Kenneth N.
"We have the full support of Willis Carto..."
- Arnie Lerma
"I suggest that we don't promote my
relationship with Willis Carto ... "
- Arnie Lerma
"Arnie is no Nazi, no has any Nazi connections."
- William Charles Barwell
"One more time, Arnie is not an anti-Semite,
nor a member of the liberty Lobby, ect."
- William Charles Barwell
"...because I'm honest enough to
stand behind what I post."
- William Charles Barwell
"It makes me sick to think such evil,
ignorant, stupid, deeply ideologically
debased creatures dare to call themselves
either patriots or Americans, they are neither."
- William Charles Barwell
Next Barwell will try to discredit me with opinionated information
that has nothing to do with me. That's been his strategy against
me so far.
Faxhor
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
A Layman's Guide to Willis Carto - NAZI
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ko&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=197c7921.0405...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A new U.S. Law monitors and combats anti-semitism:
H. R. 4230
To authorize the establishment within the Department of State of an
Office to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism, to require inclusion in
annual Department of State reports of information concerning acts of
anti-Semitism around the world, and for other purposes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
RE: Bigmouth Barwell
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c901bee5.0407240338.1d9e517f%40p...
This posting by Ms. Schwartz is also rather informative:
Stop defaming, lying, harassing and stalking me, William Charles
Barwell. Stop sabotaging all my postings, stop spamming, stop trying to
scream me down, just because you don't agree with me and get a life,
you low life form, and anti-free speech kook.
Go back where you came from, and that is hell, if I am not very much
mistaken. I swear, I take you on legally, like the others of my
stalkers before you.
William Charles Barwell spams and stalks me with the a defamatory free
speech controlled Wikipedia article about me (unprofessional Wikipedia
was founded by porn engine CEO Jimmy Wales and is subject to possible
class action law suit) scribbled by forger, defamer and sexual harasser
Korey Jerome Kruse and Eugenics fan and anti-religious extremist Tilman
Hausherr (Google their names).
Barwell tried to hitch me, Barbara Schwarz, up with an 80 year old
abusive stalker man, Milton Robert "Pete" Stapelton, a dead beat and
one who posted that he was a pimp, is interested in young boys and that
he is mentally ill. He harassed me with posting ID Eru Avatar and
Barwell teamed up with that abusive man in many threads against me,
which means that Barwell and Stapelton are a pair.
Thanks to the generosity of Uncle Ton and Auto, for permission to use
their research:
Redneck William "Charlie" Barwell, from Houston, Texas, is a documented
hate monger, liar and spammer. He spams a list with defamatory books on
Scientology, also that one of Cyril Vosper, a convicted kidnapper and
felon. This guy kidnapped me and Barwell promotes him! Barwell should
be incarcerated. He is dangerous!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/582f20694...
He is member of the weird and money oriented SubGenius cult but
hypocritically attacks and defames Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard.
Barwell signed his postings as "pope", and his mental state is
questioned by others.
Barwell wrote he loves cats in white wine sauce, drinks beer, rum and
loves skunks. Redneck William "Charlie" Barwell is a shabby HATEFUL
PERSON, who could use a deodorant.
He is a spamming, lying weasel, a black propagandist,who posts
anti-Scientology hatred and defends p$ychiatric crimes. -
He can't see Arnie Lerma's Nazi connection even though it is right in
front of his face. (Willis Carto). William defends Arnie Lerma. -- "Not
really." - William Barwell . - "One more time, Arnie is not an
anti-Semite, nor a member of the liberty Lobby, ect." -
William Charles Barwell. Barwell was caught lying again.
Magoo
<tobyty...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1142766795.9...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
WOW! Well said, Toby!! I loved that one............very well said...thank
you.
Peace2,
Tory/Magoo~
Famous...@artlover.com
Magoo wrote:
> <tobyty...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1142766795.9...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
In what clubs did Tory dance? With a pole? Could some people have
videos and photos?
WILLIAM CHARLES BARWELL IS GOING TO THE SLAMMER!
Drunk libeler William Barwell makes death threats and threats of
violence. Supernews, cancel his service! Barwell is the hate monger and
he accuses innocent people of what he is doing: hate, libel,
harassment, spam and defamation.
"Fuck with me asshole, and I will work like a rabid
raccoon overtime to pull Schwarz's plug.
You wanna try me!?" William Barwell and his fanatical threat against
Ms. Schwarz and Mr. Sullivan. Looks like Barwell want to kill them.
Police, arrest Barwell!
BARWELL, WE ARE TIRED OF THE DAILY MASSIVE WILLIAM CHARLES BARWELL
SPAM, LIES, DEFAMATION, ABUSE, COPYRIGHT VIOLATION AND HARASSMENT.
Caswell
Schwarz says...
>
>
>Magoo schrieb:
>
>> I guess Harold Bezazian
>
>Tory, did you tell your former husband all about your life bevor you
>met him? I doubt it.
>Anyway, you were in no cult. You were just a public. All you had to do,
>in case you didn't want to continue with SCN, to become INACTIVE. Your
>act that you had to leave a cult makes all other SCN public and staff
>laugh out out!
>
>There are thousands of Scientologists who just decided to be inactive
>in Scientology and nobody forces them to go back in. You could have
>done same and you still would have your husband and your son. But how
>can you expect them to live with you when you are filled up by the
>hatred and fanatism of the anti-religious extremists?
>
>It's so easy to stop Scientology. You also could have joined another
>religion. But what did you do? You left husband and son just to hang
>out with the anti-religious extremists and become one yourself.
>
>You are a scam, Tory.
>
>--
>Barbara Schwarz
Tory wants money, that's her entire motivation, end of story. Oh, and a rich
husband - neither of which will happen until hell freezes over.
Caswell
"Jail for Ulf! Jail for Ulf!" Has a nice ring to it, hasn't it? For those in a
hurry, the short form for this project is "JULF".
- Barbara Schwarz
>Looking for the original Mark (Marty) Rathbun. (No impostor, please!)
>--
>L. Ron Hubbard: "THE CRIMINAL ACCUSES OTHERS OF THINGS WHICH HE HIMSELF
>IS DOING. THE CRIMINAL MIND RELENTLESSLY SEEKS TO DESTROY ANYONE IT
>IMAGINES MIGHT EXPOSE IT. THE CRIMINAL ONLY SEES OTHERS AS HE HIMSELF
>IS."
>L. Ron Hubbard: "HONEST PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS, TOO."
>
>http://www.thunderstar.net/~Schwarz/
>(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities.)
>
>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/
>
>Read the pages on terrorist-friendly Andreas Heldal-Lund (arrested for
>harassment):
>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund04.html
>
--
http://NewsGuy.com/overview.htm 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth
Barbara Schwarz
Caswell schrieb:
She could marry Ulf Brett$tam. They are both stupid and money oriented.
--
Magoo
"Caswell" <Caswell...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:dvl28...@drn.newsguy.com...
> In article <1142652131.0...@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
> Barbara
> Schwarz says...
>>
>>
>>Magoo schrieb:
>>
>>> I guess Harold Bezazian
>>
>>Tory, did you tell your former husband all about your life bevor you
>>met him? I doubt it.
>>Anyway, you were in no cult. You were just a public. All you had to do,
>>in case you didn't want to continue with SCN, to become INACTIVE. Your
>>act that you had to leave a cult makes all other SCN public and staff
>>laugh out out!
>>
>>There are thousands of Scientologists who just decided to be inactive
>>in Scientology and nobody forces them to go back in. You could have
>>done same and you still would have your husband and your son. But how
>>can you expect them to live with you when you are filled up by the
>>hatred and fanatism of the anti-religious extremists?
>>
>>It's so easy to stop Scientology. You also could have joined another
>>religion. But what did you do? You left husband and son just to hang
>>out with the anti-religious extremists and become one yourself.
>>
>>You are a scam, Tory.
Sure, people can stop doing Scientology ......but the question is:
IF you knew that Scientology was actively working to STOP free speech, and
you knew intimate details of this, is it the right thing to just drop
back----pretend you knew nothing---and go "inactive"?
Or should one take a stand? I was raised by my parents that if you know
something is wrong, it's your duty to use the courage you have to take a
stand and try to fix it. Think of our founding Fathers and ALL that they and
many others fought for, so we have Free speech. Suddenly you're fine to just
drop that in the toilet?
I am not. So I took a stand, not knowing fully what the outcome would be.
Some of what you've described is incorrect about me, but it's personal, and
frankly none of your business.
Best to those who make a difference!
Tory/Magoo~~
Magoo
"Your
>>act that you had to leave a cult makes all other SCN public and staff
>>laugh out out!"
They laugh "Out out"?? Interesting. I'd like to hear that. So you're in
touch with "All of SCN public and staff"? Wow. And you think I care what the
Hell these mind controlled people who are floormats for DM and gang do about
me? Tell them I said "hi", but I know you, and I know them: They can't hear
from an SP, can they? eeeewwww....how "OT" of them!
And correction: I never said I Had to leave Scientology. I said my
Scientology/Truman show cracked open, and for me, there was no reason to
keep pretending. I needed to see what the real world was like.
I only began speaking out when Scientology did their Fair Game actions on
me. That changed everything. You can thank the C of S/OSA for that one, and
Bill Yaude.
Tory/Magoo~~
"Magoo" <mag...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QOsTf.624$O5....@fe05.lga...
Robert Carlson
>In article <1142652131.0...@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, Barbara
>Schwarz says...
>>
>>
>>I am a psychotic bag lady.
What else is new?
You can't wait to see those new photos, can you? Don't worry, it won't be
long. :)
While you're waiting, read L Ron Hubbard's Affirmations, one of the
earliest examples of OT solo auditing.
http://www.b-org.demon.nl/scn/nl/english/admissions-hubbard.html
or
http://www.lermanet2.com/reference/Admissions.pdf
L Ron Hubbard's Affirmations inspire me!
Robert Carlson
---
Deadbeat dad working for the Church of Scientology's Office of Special
Affairs.
Also known as: Faxhor, anon...@gmail.com, SunSurfer,
classifi...@gmail.com, Jet, Jet-Into-Jet, etc, etc, etc...
Shin...@myway.com
You sound like a space cootie, hate monger Barwell. Why are you not on
the RFW? Too insignificant?
Oh, did we discover some criminal past of William Charles Barwell in
these records?
http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=William+Charles+Barwell&state=&name_style=1
No expert on Scientology, Black dianetics rookie William Barwell
cannot see and is probably the #1 ARS Maggot. So thoroughly
blinded by his biased viewpoint, the hypocritical, self assured,
pathological liar definitely cannot see any truth and I would not
be surprised if he wears thick spectacles. Unlike me who has 20/20
vision.
In his obviously frantic effort to be right he flings extra amounts
of filthy stench to blind and confuse, leaving a trail of mistakes
and typos. I probably would defeat this frothing idiot into shame
with a game of Chess.
Now the maggot can get back to his carrion feeding frenzy, I will
be watching, but dont expect me to respond to this sick maggot.
Fax
Here is cultist and spam idiot William Charles Barwell in his own
words:
"Jesus was just a Soter God like Osiris. The SubGenius religion (HIS
CULT) was supressed with Matthew's collection of sayings for another
1900 years. Only traces of Slack remain in the teachings of some
gnostic groups. And in a few verses of the
Gospel of Thomas. Jesus preached Slack damn it!
Pope Charles
SubGenius Pope Of Houston
Slack!"
Redneck Barwell lies about L. Ron Hubbard and abuses all
Scientologists, esp. Barbara Schwarz and anybody who is a friend to
her. He always cites her deliberately wrongful to fair games her. He
threatens good people with net coping. He is tyrant and against free
speech of others.
He gets in fights with her friends and uses his frustration against her
despite she wasn't involved. He constantly lies about her and spams
defamation that his friends wrote about her. These are some of his
sick, criminal and dangerous remarks.
He harasses her with words like:
"Shitbag"; "schizophrenic"; "I'll pull the plug on Schwarz"; "I had it
with her", "I'll soon straighten her up"; "Fuck with me asshole, and I
will work like a rabid raccoon overtime to pull Schwarz's plug. You
wanna try me?!"
He violates the copyright of the Church of Scientology on a daily
basis. He sabotages postings, by making the postings look as if his
opponents posted HIS lawless and insane postings.
Barwell lies that Eru IIvatar, wouldn't be Peat Stapleton because
Barwell knows that Peat Stapleton abuses Barbara Schwarz by stalking
her from thread to thread and defaming her. Barwell is just as guilty
of the abuse as Stapleton himself. (Stapleton was in prison and one
year in a mental institution. He is a dead beat admitted that he was a
pimp and that he raped a 13 years old boy.) It must be suspected that
Barwell has his own dark secrets by helping this man.
wbarwell
>
> You sound like a space cootie, hate monger Barwell. Why are you not on
> the RFW? Too insignificant?
Miracles....
Surprise is one of the methods by which energy could be
damaged because a thetan gets that associated with a blow and
he has all sorts of interesting mechanisms figured out. But we
have to have these basic mechanisms first - one, that one can be
damaged and two, that he is energy.
Christianity, for instance, had this failure. Although they were
addressing the spirit very broadly they actually brought in this
mechanism called hell. There were seven hells originally and
these various hells were all places where thetans could be
damaged. They did this very interestingly. They said, "your
soul," which, of course, made the operation, "you are energy."
Punishment and damage were entered in. That wasn't anywhere
near as bad an operation as this dialectic materialism psychology
mess that we have inherited in our modern times. Science is
going straight ahead on the rocks of "man is energy - man is
mass." At least Christian practices gave a via on it. They
still have some spirit present in their conception of man.
I am more or less prone to believe some of the miracles which
occurred in the early days of Christianity in spite of the several
Christian churches which now offer large prizes to anyone who
can prove that any miracle ever occurred. If you were just to
convince somebody that he is a spirit, that he did not "have" a
soul but "is" a soul and nothing else, you are liable to get a
miracle. He would slip all the way out of being energy and being
damaged into being himself.
We thus have control of the spirit as being the highest button
of control or processing. Control of spirit would be rather direct
without mumbo jumbo and lots of vias such as witch doctoring.
We have come to a point where we can do this quite directly.
We can control a spirit. The moment that the preclear himself
sees that he is control and that he is not energy, sees that he
can receive control, communicate and respond to it, he certainly
will pull out of the morass.
Tone 40 works well for some people and rather poorly for
others. It has a lot to do with the goals of the auditor and
his understanding of what he is trying to do with that process.
But we are probably the first - and this doesn't even include
Buddhism - to overtly address this problem very directly and
without superstition and mumbo jumbo.
barbz
People can stop doing Scientology. But how do you get Scientology to
stop doing them?
Magoo
"barbz" <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:%1zTf.9348$z82.2157@fed1read07...
True.....that's a good question. Also, where's all this money
Caswell says I'm after? I'd love to hear this one....
Tory/Magoo~~
Barbara Schwarz
Well Tory, there are two possibilities:
1) You blew it.
2) He posted you are AFTER it, that means that you didn't yet got your
hands on it and perhaps never will.
--
Caswell
Schwarz says...
You're right, it's a perfect match! Then Ulf could drug Tory into an early
grave, like he does with his patients. Barbara, you think of everything! ;)
Cas
"Jail for Ulf! Jail for Ulf!" Has a nice ring to it, hasn't it? For those in a
hurry, the short form for this project is "JULF".
- Barbara Schwarz
>
>--
>Barbara Schwarz
>Looking for the original Mark (Marty) Rathbun. (No impostor, please!)
>--
>L. Ron Hubbard: "THE CRIMINAL ACCUSES OTHERS OF THINGS WHICH HE HIMSELF
>IS DOING. THE CRIMINAL MIND RELENTLESSLY SEEKS TO DESTROY ANYONE IT
>IMAGINES MIGHT EXPOSE IT. THE CRIMINAL ONLY SEES OTHERS AS HE HIMSELF
>IS."
>L. Ron Hubbard: "HONEST PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS, TOO."
>
>
>http://www.thunderstar.net/~Schwarz/
>(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities.)
>
>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/
>
>Read the pages on terrorist-friendly Andreas Heldal-Lund (arrested for
>harassment):
>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund04.html
>
--
NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth
Caswell
Tory doesn't realize that the fact that she *hasn't* gotten any money despite
years of frequent threats, wild lies, and vicious harrassment of former friends
should be food for thought on her part. (This is covered on page one of
Extortion For Dummies, Tory. Pick up a copy.)
Cas
"Jail for Ulf! Jail for Ulf!" Has a nice ring to it, hasn't it? For those in a
hurry, the short form for this project is "JULF".
-Barbara Schwarz
>Looking for the original Mark (Marty) Rathbun. (No impostor, please!)
>--
>L. Ron Hubbard: "THE CRIMINAL ACCUSES OTHERS OF THINGS WHICH HE HIMSELF
>IS DOING. THE CRIMINAL MIND RELENTLESSLY SEEKS TO DESTROY ANYONE IT
>IMAGINES MIGHT EXPOSE IT. THE CRIMINAL ONLY SEES OTHERS AS HE HIMSELF
>IS."
>L. Ron Hubbard: "HONEST PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS, TOO."
>
>http://www.thunderstar.net/~Schwarz/
>(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities.)
>
>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/
>
>Read the pages on terrorist-friendly Andreas Heldal-Lund (arrested for
>harassment):
>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund04.html
>
--
NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth
wbarwell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Schwarz
What is Barbara Schwarz? She is a delusinal
ex-Scientologist who is incapale of understanding
the difference between facts and delusion.
A kook who's incessent attacks on Scientology
critics should be discounted because her
delusional mental state.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.self-improve/ms
g/7a875889d820c8da?output=gplain
And here is the continuation of my personal story:
You know by now that I am not Rosemary's baby,
right? You all saw the movie, it just can't be me.
I was kidnapped from L. Ron Hubbard, from
the USA to Germany and given to Rosemarie
Bretschneider. I don't know my exact date of
birth. I got the date of birth of Rosemarie's real
child, the half oriental girl with the gulfball
sized eyes, which is August 31, 1955. I could be a
bit younger, I sure hope not older, but I believe
we are of pretty the same age. I sure could try to
figure out my real date of birth, but who has time
for such relatively unimportant things. As I look
25 years, seven months, four days and two hours
younger as I actually are, I just continue to
ignore my real age.
Seriously, from Ms. Bretschneider's photoalbum I
know that I was not only exchanged once, but
several times with her real baby. Rosemarie
had her biological child approximately the first
five weeks, then the Nazis ordered me to be
exchanged with her kid and Rosemarie was
hypnotized to accept it. You have seen on TV how
easy many people can be hypnotized, Rosemarie is
one of them.
wbarwell
> In article <1142907314.4...@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> Barbara Schwarz says...
>>
>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Schwarz
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.self-improve/ms
g/b98c1fc9182412e2?output=gplain
I know where President Eisenhower is today. He was
also kidnapped to Germany. He is now my brother
Frank. He is born June 17, 1960. Any photo, any
film, any excutive order, any interview after that
date is a fake. I knew my grandfather President
Eisenhower very well. He used to carry me around
and played with me. He had the most charming smile
you can imagine. I loughed right back at him.
There was no chance to be not happy as a child
with a grandpa as this. He played often with
me when he was back in our village. My brother and
President Eisenhower are one and the same person,
take it from somebody who knew them in both life
times.
ericha...@myway.com
wbarwell wrote:
> Caswell wrote:
Instead of stalking women, Barwell, why don't you develop an own
personality?
OFF TOPIC SPAM POSTINGS BY PSYCHIATRIC TROLL WILLIAM BARWELL.
GET A JOB, BUM BARWELL
Oh, did we discover some criminal past of William Charles Barwell in
these records?
http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=William+Charles+Barwell&state=&name_style=1
Barwell defends cyber terrorist maggot Dave Touretzky who likes cyber
skin-dildos and bomb instructions. Students coming after that CMU
Professor. Check here:
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/touretzky/
http://schwarzb.100free.com
http://schwarz.bravehost.com
http://home.graffiti.net/schwarzb:graffiti.net
http://personales.ciudad.com.ar/b-schwartz
http://schwartz.bizhat.com
http://schwarz.50webs.com
http://schwarz.awardspace.com
http://www.intheup.com/members/schwarz
http://schwarzb.t35.com
http://schwarz.getdata.be
http://schwarz.iespana.es
http://schwarz.freespaces.com
http://club.telepolis.com/schwartzb
http://personales.com/panama/chepo/schwartz
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Now, the maggot can get back to his carrion feeding frenzy, I will be
watching, but dont expect me to respond to this sick maggot." - Faxhor
MAGGOT: A new net slang created by Faxhor referring to inattentive
persons in debate who cannot see reality no matter how much you point
it out to them. Instead they choose to look only at distortions,
propaganda and lies. They are blind and feed off of such rotten trash.
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"What is true for you is what you have observed yourself" - L. Ron
Hubbard
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The following is a lie by William Barwell:
"One more time, Arnis is not an anti-Semite,
nor a member of the liberty Lobby, ect."
- William Charles Barwell
Barwell claims I am a liar but offers no proof of any lie on my part.
Instead, Barwell uses his own unqualified and incomplete draft on the
subject of Dianetics to back up his claim that I am a liar.
Read more about how William Barwell misinforms the lurkers on a.r.s:
Barbara Schwarz: "Nothing but lies on your book list, WC Barwell. And
Cyril Vosper kidnapped me. You should be arrested for promoting the
book of a convicted kidnapper and de-religionizator."
Barwell: " Bullshit. Another fantasy brain fart from Schwarz. Libel.
What sort of fool is Schwarz? Who can believe a word she says!"
Barbara Schwarz: "Anybody who isn't a rookie on ARS knows that Cyril
Vosper was one of the men who kidnapped me to erradicate my belief in
Scientology. Here is the legal judgment against Vosper. I am the victim
in this case. Barwell is more than a liar. He is a campaigner and is
misinforming lurkers on ARS. I think that all people who read his lies
have legal claims against him as he suppresses the truth and facts with
an huge amount of lie-spam postings in this and other newsgroups!"
ShingPeng: "Who can believe a word that Barwell says?"
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky00.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/Christman/index.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund01.html
wbarwell
When the crazy lady lashes out, lies, smears libels and hates,
she gets bitch slapped.
You don't like it? Tough!
Schwarz doesn't like it? Tough! It happens till she stops
barbz
> ericha...@myway.com wrote:
>
>
> When the crazy lady lashes out, lies, smears libels and hates,
> she gets bitch slapped.
>
> You don't like it? Tough!
>
> Schwarz doesn't like it? Tough! It happens till she stops
And she won't stop, eating cars, she eats Cadillacs, Sentras too,
she eats Datsuns, Toyotas and Subarus....
I am being defamed and forged here
Caswell schrieb:
I think that sums it up, Cas. Tory, you can't count blessings, can't
you?
--
Barbara Schwarz
Looking for the original Mark (Marty) Rathbun. (No impostor, please!)
--
L. Ron Hubbard: "THE CRIMINAL ACCUSES OTHERS OF THINGS WHICH HE HIMSELF
IS DOING. THE CRIMINAL MIND RELENTLESSLY SEEKS TO DESTROY ANYONE IT
IMAGINES MIGHT EXPOSE IT. THE CRIMINAL ONLY SEES OTHERS AS HE HIMSELF
IS."
L. Ron Hubbard: "HONEST PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS, TOO."
http://www.thunderstar.net/~Schwarz/
(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities.)
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/
Read the pages on terrorist-friendly Andreas Heldal-Lund (arrested for
harassment):
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund04.html
>
Damned Clams!
> And she won't stop, eating cars, she eats Cadillacs, Sentras too,
> she eats Datsuns, Toyotas and Subarus....
Great song.
And Deb Harry was never a clam cultist.