Scientologists: Can you utter your opinion?

[Safe ... www.fza.org]

Dear church member scientologists,

Are you free to utter your free opinion within the Church of Scientology,
Inc. and to other scientologists without fear of being routed to the Ethics
Department or being accused by other church members that "you're repeating
the enemy line" (a favorite)?

If you cannot speak your mind without fear of retribution even though, to
YOU, it is the truth, you are NOT free.

So wouldn't you call it a major outpoint of the Church of Scientology, Inc.
to create this "fear of wrong thoughts or speaking one's mind" in
scientologists.

Read the following part of the church creed again and word clear it if you
need to (Reading this should have been required at the beginning of every
course);

"That all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely, to
write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the
opinions of others;"

Is there this above freedom INSIDE the church? Is this working towards
"freedom of speech" as proclaimed as one of scientologists' duty in the Code
of a Scientologist?

How are you or the Church of Scientology, Inc. working toward the freedom of
speech?

I don't know about you, but I hold the church creed and the code of a
scientologist SACRED. How about you?

Violation of our most basic human rights (freedom of speech) is NOT ok.
Don't you agree?

Safe

[veracity]

This is a test, want to see if this works.

[veracity]

Greetings Safe,

I just learned how to do this (newsgroups) and saw your post and wanted to
reply to it.

>Are you free to utter your free opinion within the Church of Scientology,
>Inc. and to other scientologists without fear of being routed to the Ethics
>Department or being accused by other church members that "you're repeating
>the enemy line" (a favorite)?

No, as I have learned recently. Although I should qualify that by saying I
was not uttering an "opinion", I was telling the truth about something I had
found out.
As you say, I was routed to ethics, sent to sec-checks, more ethics, working
up to a full scale Black PR campaign against me.

I know of several other examples where this has happened.

>If you cannot speak your mind without fear of retribution even though, to
>YOU, it is the truth, you are NOT free.

Correct.

>So wouldn't you call it a major outpoint of the Church of Scientology, Inc.
>to create this "fear of wrong thoughts or speaking one's mind" in
>scientologists.

Very Definitely! It is extremely suppressive and I have to say that most of
the people I see posting in this newsgroup, (with some exceptions), deal
more in truth than my ethics officer did.

I have read all of your posts I can find on this newsgroup, and you are
doing a better job representing Scientologists than our own leader's are in
the Church.

Thanks for that.

Veracity

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"veracity" <verac...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3854a...@news2.lightlink.com...

> Greetings Safe,
>
> I just learned how to do this (newsgroups) and saw your post and wanted to
> reply to it.

Welcome aboard to this newsgroup, Veracity. We need more scientologists like
you who are willing to speak their voice.

> >Are you free to utter your free opinion within the Church of Scientology,
> >Inc. and to other scientologists without fear of being routed to the
Ethics
> >Department or being accused by other church members that "you're
repeating
> >the enemy line" (a favorite)?

> No, as I have learned recently. Although I should qualify that by saying I
> was not uttering an "opinion", I was telling the truth about something I
had
> found out.
> As you say, I was routed to ethics, sent to sec-checks, more ethics,
working
> up to a full scale Black PR campaign against me.
>
> I know of several other examples where this has happened.

So it wasn't just your opinion, it was an actual fact and you were routed to
ethics, sec-checked, and got a Black PR campaign launched against you? Wow!
It's worse than I thought internally.

> >If you cannot speak your mind without fear of retribution even though, to
> >YOU, it is the truth, you are NOT free.
>
> Correct.

It's a sad truth that that's the way it is in the "church."

> >So wouldn't you call it a major outpoint of the Church of Scientology,
Inc.
> >to create this "fear of wrong thoughts or speaking one's mind" in
> >scientologists.
>
> Very Definitely! It is extremely suppressive and I have to say that most
of
> the people I see posting in this newsgroup, (with some exceptions), deal
> more in truth than my ethics officer did.

I've found the same also.

> I have read all of your posts I can find on this newsgroup, and you are
> doing a better job representing Scientologists than our own leader's are
in
> the Church.
>
> Thanks for that.
>
> Veracity

Thank you for such a nice compliment. I've just been doing my best to
represent what a free scientologist is suppose to be. You're very welcome
for that.

It's nice to meet you. I really hope you post here more often. The more that
free scientologists such as you and myself post here, the more we'll create
a safe environment for other scientologists to feel safe posting here
without fear that critics will slam down on them. Scientologists need to
know that they have support here.

Scientologists also need to know that most critics' motives are good. They
are lovers of freedom of speech and hate to see an abusive organization
doing people wrong. They treat me with respect and have even nominated me
for a special award even though they know I am still a scientologist. I feel
honored.

Thanks for coming here and posting. Please stay. :-)

Safe