CAN's Laura Terepin now tangled in Berry vs Barton
Keith Henson
According to Graham, the LT from CAN gave a number of documents from CAN
to him through one of his assistants. Graham produced the documents under
discovery in Berry vs Barton, but when asked in deposition a few days ago,
he did not know where they came from. Moxon and Co decided to depose the
assistant on this and other matters, so rather than have this information
come out a few weeks from now, the assistant told Graham of the documents
origin and Graham told Moxon in deposition of their origin yesterday (Fri.)
It will be of great interest to see if Moxon and Co issue a subpoena to
depose CAN's LT. If they do, you can write off CAN's LT being a plant,
because even CoS (with their habit of footbullets) would not subject one
of their own agents to being questioned under oath.
The converse would not have as much significance.
On the subject of CAN, if anyone has details of Glenn Barton's involvement
in the destruction of CAN, particularly his involvement with New CAN (CAN
reform group?) Schait, or Russell Shaw please forward them directly to
Grah...@aol.com.
In deposition, Graham mentioned that he had evidence of criminal conduct
by the Paul Hasting (Rosen's) law firm. The clams insisted he produce it,
though it was not directly related to the case. They eventually took
Graham before the Judge, insisting that he give up the data even before
Graham had a chance to provide it to the US Attorney. The Judge (who
caught on to what was going on :-) ) ordered Graham to say what it was, so
he told them he had an affidavit to the effect that PH was paying $300 a
document to the court clerks who back date the filing so they would appear
to be filed in a timely manor. If I can get a copy of this now public
document, I will scan it in and post.
There is lots more going on (for example a 1740.10 motion) but this is
all I can reconstruct from my sketchy notes.
Graham's saga is more interesting than anything else at the moment.
Keith Henson
Zane
wrote:
>According to Graham, the LT from CAN gave a number of documents from CAN
>to him through one of his assistants.
Ahah so she really is an OSA spy! See how cleverly she covers her
track by giving documents to Graham to use in his fight against the
evil kult? No doubt they are entirely fabricated too.
Zane - KoX, SP4, Club Nine
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tall...@idirect.com
>
>I got this from Graham Berry this morning.
>
>discovery in Berry vs Barton, but when asked in deposition a few days ago,
>he did not know where they came from. Moxon and Co decided to depose the
>assistant on this and other matters, so rather than have this information
>come out a few weeks from now, the assistant told Graham of the documents
>origin and Graham told Moxon in deposition of their origin yesterday (Fri.)
Okay, it's important to find out a little more about these documents, if
possible. For instance, were these documents relating to the workings of the CAN
organization, or were they legal or research material that could assist him in
his ongoing cases?
Also, just to confirm - was this after the Scott case, and the death of the old
CAN (RIP)? Who did these documents belong to? Laura, or some of the former CAN
executive?
>It will be of great interest to see if Moxon and Co issue a subpoena to
>depose CAN's LT. If they do, you can write off CAN's LT being a plant,
>because even CoS (with their habit of footbullets) would not subject one
>of their own agents to being questioned under oath.
I think that that the act itself of passing information to Berry also lends
credence to claims of innocence (although I would, wouldn't I?) What motivation
would an OSA plant have to assist Berry in his court battles against the CoS?
The only possibilities I've seen discussed are torturously convoluted; ie., to
frame Berry for something, or the like.
Does Berry, or his associate, have any light to shed on the likelihood that
Laura is a plant? Did they ever experience leaks that could be attributed to
her?
K
Joe "We are Borg" Foster
<36de45a2....@enews.newsguy.com>...
> On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:24:27 GMT, Keith Henson <hkhe...@netcom.com>
> wrote:
> >According to Graham, the LT from CAN gave a number of documents from CAN
> >to him through one of his assistants.
> Ahah so she really is an OSA spy! See how cleverly she covers her
> track by giving documents to Graham to use in his fight against the
> evil kult? No doubt they are entirely fabricated too.
Unless the LT from CAN isn't the same "LT" that Minton et al are ranting
about... Has anyone a clue one way or the other?
--
Joe Foster <mailto:jfo...@ricochet.net> or <mailto:j...@bftsi0.gate.net>
WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above They're coming to
because my cats have apparently learned to type. take me away, ha ha!
Keith Henson
: In article <hkhensonF...@netcom.com>, Keith says...
: >
: >I got this from Graham Berry this morning.
: >According to Graham, the LT from CAN gave a number of documents from CAN
: >to him through one of his assistants. Graham produced the documents under
: >discovery in Berry vs Barton, but when asked in deposition a few days ago,
: >he did not know where they came from. Moxon and Co decided to depose the
: >assistant on this and other matters, so rather than have this information
: >come out a few weeks from now, the assistant told Graham of the documents
: >origin and Graham told Moxon in deposition of their origin yesterday (Fri.)
: Okay, it's important to find out a little more about these documents, if
: possible. For instance, were these documents relating to the workings of
: the CAN organization, or were they legal or research material that could
: assist him in his ongoing cases?
They were litigation notes on the activities of Barton in destroying CAN.
The documents were of the sort which would aid Graham in his cases, and
were not helpful to the cult for them to be introduced. From what I
understood, they were the kind of thing which you might expect a CAN
insider to have copies of.
: Also, just to confirm - was this after the Scott case, and the death of
: the old CAN (RIP)? Who did these documents belong to? Laura, or some of
: the former CAN executive?
No idea. They did not raise any red flags for Graham.
: >It will be of great interest to see if Moxon and Co issue a subpoena to
: >depose CAN's LT. If they do, you can write off CAN's LT being a plant,
: >because even CoS (with their habit of footbullets) would not subject one
: >of their own agents to being questioned under oath.
: I think that that the act itself of passing information to Berry also
: lends credence to claims of innocence (although I would, wouldn't I?) What
: motivation would an OSA plant have to assist Berry in his court battles
: against the CoS? The only possibilities I've seen discussed are
: torturously convoluted; ie., to frame Berry for something, or the like.
I don't believe the documents were a major help, but I really don't know.
As I understood the situation, the track for the documents is through a
major (former) CAN figure who may well have given them to Laura with the
intent to get them to Graham.
: Does Berry, or his associate, have any light to shed on the likelihood
: that Laura is a plant? Did they ever experience leaks that could be
: attributed to her?
They don't discount the possibility, but if anything their observations
would point the other direction--or indicate that Graham's office was (at
that time) penetrated. Laura had the opportunity to work there as a
trusted volunteer and turned it down.
When this finally shakes out, it may be stranger than anything yet seen,
or it may be entirely mundane. Keith Henson
Zane
<j...@bftsi0.UUCP> wrote:
> Has anyone a clue one way or the other?
Not me, I'm toadly clueless. It would be nice to have some facts eh?
tall...@idirect.com
Andy Walton wrote:
> Basil Keilani wrote:
>
> > The Serbian army and the Israeli Defence Forces operate with the
> > same viciousness and with little world intervention to stop the actions.
> > It will be easier to stop the Serbians because they do not have
> > an influential Serbian Orthodox lobby as the Jews do in America, Canada,
> > England. Serbians would say this is a double standard, and they would be
> > correct.
>
> Except for the fact that the Albanians are not terrorists -
> which are the only targets of the Isaraeli army.
> The fact that innocents get in the way is just as much the
> fault of the terrorists, who hide behind them.
> (And as far as an "Orthodox Lobby" - believe you me,
> if Israel wasn't of any value to the US, nothing would
> keep us supporting them)
>
> Susan
Of what value is Israel to the United States? Military? Economic?
Diplomatic? What exactly does the U.S. get in return for its unflagging
military and financial support for that insignificant little country?
tall...@idirect.com
William Barwell
tall...@idirect.com <tall...@idirect.com> wrote:
>In article <hkhensonF...@netcom.com>, Keith says...
>>
>
>I think that that the act itself of passing information to Berry also lends
>credence to claims of innocence (although I would, wouldn't I?) What motivation
>would an OSA plant have to assist Berry in his court battles against the CoS?
>The only possibilities I've seen discussed are torturously convoluted; ie., to
>frame Berry for something, or the like.
>
Entrapment of Berry, plus a desperate attempt to get people to think
because she passed on stuff to Berry, she must be on the up and up.
I bet they hope that Kisser buys it.
Framing or entraping Berry are hardly torturous ideas from a cult that
just last year was found to have infiltrated the Greek government.
Is it any more torturous than setting up a boat full of drugs and whores
and recording devices to entrap a judge, or to stage a fake hit and run
accident to end the political career of Clearwater mayor Abe Cazares?
Hardly.
>Does Berry, or his associate, have any light to shed on the likelihood that
>Laura is a plant? Did they ever experience leaks that could be attributed to
>her?
E-mail him and ask. If anybody passes any real info here to ARS they will
simply be attacked for their trouble anyway.
Pope Charles
SubGenius Pope of Houston
Slack!
Zane
Barwell) wrote:
>Entrapment of Berry
Entrapment? Please be more specific as to exactly what crime the
entrapment would be related to.
>plus a desperate attempt to get people to think
>because she passed on stuff to Berry, she must be on the up and up.
Bwhahahaha! A "desperate attempt". Another wild accusation by Pope
William Barwell The Pinkus.
>Framing or entraping Berry are hardly torturous ideas from a cult that
>just last year was found to have infiltrated the Greek government.
Pope. Of course we expect that sort of stuff from the kriminal kult,
duh. But just because we can be virtually certain that it has been
done or will be done does not mean that we should blindly accuse the
first person who someone else calls an "OSA Whore".
>E-mail him and ask. If anybody passes any real info here to ARS they will
>simply be attacked for their trouble anyway.
Try posting some and see.
William Barwell
>I'll be there if I have to push the whole way.
>
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