What is it?
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hatred. Fine community. What a shame.
Shy David
>Came here to get some info about Scientology, all I could find was
>hatred.
That's what happens when one lears about Scientology.
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The Truth About "Psychics:" http://holysmoke.org/keene.sht
The Truth About Scientology: http://www.airspeed.com/~shydavid/cos.htm
The Truth About Creationism: http://holysmoke.org/icr-cult.htm
LYING IS SCIENTOLOGY'S ONLY SACREMENT
DavisS
>From: Beverly Rice <dbj...@iag.net>
>Date: 12/19/98 9:45 PM CST
>Message-id: <367C72...@iag.net>
>
>Deleted wrote:
>>
>> Came here to get some info about Scientology, all I could find was
>
>
>There has been an unfortunate spam storm of forgeries with
>Nazi and facist posts forged in other people's names. Is
>that what you are referring to, or is it something else?
>
If it IS what the poster is referring to, then it illustrates what I've said
before, emphatically.
The normal browsing public is wandering in here, and sees endless forges of
hate under our names. There is no "nfilter" for newbies or the curious. ARS is
a closed clubhouse until magic happens and the forgespam is burned away.
-D
>Please clarify your statement, unless you simply were going
>for a one-liner.
>
>Beverly
>
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The "davi...@my-dejanews.com" posting since the December 5th picket is a
Scientologist who seems to be hatted to discredit me. Please don't feed the
imposter.
-Dav...@aol.com since 1993.
Anton Hein
- on Sun, 20 Dec 1998 03:05:03 GMT - wrote:
>Came here to get some info about Scientology, all I could find was
>hatred. Fine community. What a shame.
Generally it takes some time and participation to get to know a community
- certainly one that is built around an issue as controversial as
Scientology. If and when you understand the issues under discussion here,
you will also understand why people have strong feelings about them.
As in any newsgroup, you'll find chaff among the wheat. What *you* focus
on is *your* responsibility. So is what *you* contribute.
Anton
--
Proudly internetting from XS4ALL - a Scientology-censored ISP
Here's What Scientology Doesn't Want You To Know:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ahein/s04.html
Fast
>Came here to get some info about Scientology, all I could find was
>hatred. Fine community. What a shame.
On the off chance that your are a real, new, poster and not some Cof$
shill, here is a copy of my recent post on "Racist messages and the
SPAM Attack":
For all newbies to the group:
First, welcome to alt.religion.scientology. We are so happy to have
all the new readers and posters. Stick around, its a fun place.
This newsgroup (ars) has been subjected to a flood of message
forgeries over the past few months, mostly consisting of reasonable
sounding subject lines stuck together with racist messages copied from
other, usually hateful or racist, newsgroups.
It isn't clear exactly who is doing this, but they hop from one ISP to
another burning throw-away accounts as fast as the AUP teams can shut
them down.
What is clear is that their intent is to fill this newsgroup with
disgusting posts that swamp the real posts and drive away new readers.
They also put in forged author headers, so the regulars from this
group get associated with the trashy messages that they had nothing to
do with. They get archived this way in Deja News and other places,
too.
Please don't let them succeed. Just delete the nasty messages. Even
better, figure out where the spam got injected into usenet and
complain to the abuse desk for that news server.
Don't use your killfile on the author, because that author didn't
actually write the disgusting post. You may find the NFILTER program
of some help.
Don't drop out or stop reading; that is just what they want.
Hope to see you around the newsgroup. May Xenu bless you.
- Fast
chochi
>Came here to get some info about Scientology,<snip>
It is:
ABC News has put up a web page promoting this Sunday's 20/20 show about
Scientology:
http://abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/2020_981218_scientology_story.html
Summary: Scientology is a religion that does not worship a god.
Has following this faith turned deadly?
Or
Are You full of Dead Space-Aliens?
The "Church" of Scientology* says you are. That is after you have handed
over about $50,000 to them to reach this privileged secret level. They
reveal to you that you are full of the souls of dead space aliens who
were brought to Earth, 75 million years ago, by an evil galactic ruler
named Xenu in an attempt to solve galactic overpopulation . Trillions of
aliens were supposedly frozen in a mixture of alcohol and glycol and
flown across space, from neighboring solar systems, in DC-8 identical
space-planes. They were then stacked around volcanoes on Earth and nuked
with H-bombs, after which their souls clustered together and now infest
our bodies as "body thetans"
$440 per hour to exorcise your dead space-aliens
The cost for ridding yourself of these "body thetans" is $440 per hour,
according to a recent price-list. And since you are supposed to have
about 2,500 of them then this could take a hundred hours or more.
Another $50,000 or so to this insane cult that calls itself a "Church".
After ridding themselves of these imaginary space-aliens, the deluded
and out-of-pocket practitioners hope to gain supernatural powers. If
not, they can always pay $1100 per hour for what is called the "L
Rundowns". Another $100,000 or so to the cult, and still no supernatural
powers, of course.
Who started this madness?
Scientology was the invention of L. Ron Hubbard, a pulp science-fiction
writer who told his fellow authors that if a person wanted to get rich
they should start their own religion. He did just that. He turned his
puerile science-fiction fantasies into a religion and at last made the
money he couldn't make from writing. A great deal of money, in fact.
When he died, his fortune was estimated at around 400 million dollars.
Scientology did not die with Hubbard, though. Others were quick to take
over the leadership of this "Church" and its vast income.
Why do people get involved in it?
Almost nobody would get involved with Scientology if they knew what
awaited them with regards to these dead space-alien "body thetans".
People are sucked in through lies and deceit. Normally, it all starts
with a 200 question personality test. This is then used to indicate
flaws and failings in their character and they are pressured into doing
a Dianetics* course to cure these failings. In this way, "Churches" of
Scientology masquerade as a non-denominational group improving peoples
minds and abilities in order to help create a better world. When the
person attends their first course, however, they undergo a form of
semi-hypnotic regression therapy called "auditing". This causes a
temporary feeling of elation that seems to be addictive, since after
that, some people will spend all the money they have or can borrow to
buy more and increasingly expensive "auditing".
$360,000 for spiritual freedom
To do all the courses in Scientology and to receive all the auditing
needed to reach a supposed higher spiritual level costs about $360,000.
Some people have actually paid this amount, spending all their money,
selling their cars and their homes, borrowing to the maximum extent
possible, raiding their business finances and even cashing in trust
funds left to their children to feed their addiction to this "auditing".
They believe they will reach an exalted spiritual state where they can
leave their bodies at will and create events just by intending them. By
then, their minds are so deranged they will not think to check on the
claims made by Hubbard himself about this state.
Hubbard goes to Venus
Hubbard once boasted that he had transported himself to the planet Venus
-- where he was nearly run over by a freight locomotive. A made-up claim
by critics, perhaps? No, you can actually hear him say it if you have a
connection to the Internet and a soundcard. There is a soundfile of this
at http://www.xs4all.nl/~xemu/rams/Venusloc.ram . That Scientologists
believe this, as well as other absurd claims of Hubbard's, must prove
beyond doubt that they have been mentally damaged through their
involvement with this cult.
If you can't afford Scientology?
If people don't have the $360,000 to spare to feed their addiction to
Scientology "auditing" then they can always join staff. There they will
be bullied by the cult and forced to work ever harder for an insulting
$30 per week. While they are doing this they are pressured into doing
courses costing tens of thousands of dollars. If they try to leave then
they are expected to pay for these courses. They are financial
prisoners -- slaves to the cult. They won't be given much in the way of
the "auditing" they craved, though. But then there is always the elite
corps of Scientology called the Sea Org where they sign a billion year
contract and work for one hundred hours a week, again for $30 per week.
Many young and idealistic people join this group because they are
tricked into thinking that Scientology is helping to create a better
world and that their help is needed. Again, they won't get much in the
way of the "auditing" they crave. Children born into this organization
(if they escape the cult's strict policy on aborting pregnancies) will
be housed in appalling conditions, improperly cared for and fed until
they are old enough to work for the cult for the same slave-like
conditions.
Is your family safe?
If you think your family and loved ones are safe from this cult, then
think again. The cult has front groups that conceal their connection to
Scientology. They will enroll a person and only when they feel the
person is hooked will they reveal the connection. This "Church" and its
front groups have left a trail of lost fortunes and broken families in
their wake. The trick they use when their spouse, partner or relations
raise concern about their involvement in the cult is to convince the
person that those trying to get them out of the cult are concealing
crimes against them. They tell them that Scientology can make them more
able and can find things out about other peoples crimes. So if their
spouse or partner is critical of Scientology then they must be covering
up their cheating on them or suchlike and don't want them to find out.
This has caused many once happy families or relationships to break up.
What you think is your happy relationship or stable marriage could one
day be torn apart by this cult in a matter of minutes.
What you can do.
The first thing you could do is to show this flyer to your friends,
family and loved ones to make sure they are aware of the danger from
this cult. This is a public domain document so you are free to copy it
without restriction. You can either make photocopies or you can download
a fresh copy from the Internet. This flyer is located at
www.xs4all.nl/~xemu/flyers/Scam.html where you can download a Word 6
copy in either US Letter or A4 format. There is a great deal of
information about this cult on the Internet. Recommended critical sites
are www.xenu.net and www.factnet.org . Protests against this dangerous
cult take place on a frequent basis in various parts of the world. The
newsgroup alt.religion.scientology will have information on these
events. The more people who are involved in actively opposing this cult,
the fewer lives will be ruined by it.
*Scientology and Dianetics are trademarks of the Religious Technology
Center. This document is not connected to that organization in any way.
So
When posting, make sure to speak in terms of the interests
of the newsgroups, and show the evils and threats the Co$
presents to those people and their interests.
The fields of education, religion, psychology-psychiatry, criminality,
addiction, celebrities, child abuse, human rights violations, unsolved
crimes, tax evasion - - -.
--
chochi, KoX, Sp3
Prefiero vivir mi propia vida,
que ser un titere en el sueño de alguien...
Comentario acerca de los Co$
Dave Glue
Deleted wrote in message <367c6923...@news.mindspring.com>...
>Came here to get some info about Scientology, all I could find was
>hatred. Fine community. What a shame.
Yes, Scientology is a sham(e).
Shy David
DeppityBob wrote:
> >
> >>>>>So this is the latest Nizkook spook tactic: Posting forged posts.
> >>>>
> >>>>So this is the latest Booger tactic: joining in the bandwagon of Jew-hating
> >>>>twits who, without substance or evidence, blame this spam attack on the
> >>>Jews.
> >>>>Maybe he's finally coming out, just like Private Dan, into the open.
> >>>>Confirming, that is, what which we all knew.
> >>>>
> >>>>Dep
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Fatih, fanatic faith, once wedded fast
> >>>To some dear falsehood, hugs it to the last.---Moore
> >>
> >>Liar, liar pants on fire
> >>Tongue as long as a telephone wire!
> >> --somebody with more sense than Booger
> >>
> >>Dep
> >>
> >Puerile, silly man.
>
> Who has your (single-digit) number.
>
> Dep
>
CF:>>>>>ROTFLMAO ;-).
Too bad this is so far over Bellinger's pointy head!
Chuck Ferree
>
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> "Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember."
> --David Mamet
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