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Brad Denton

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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In the earlier posts to this newsgroup, two posters ("Martin Hunt" and
"Warrior," respectively) post a number of messages that seem no more
than a jumbled collation of scientific local-color and psychobabble
insider jargon. What is it that they were trying to accomplish with
their "ska" wordfight? Were the posts simply meant to be humorous? A
good friend forwarded the posts to me, and I have no idea what they
mean. Does anyone mind telling me? (I promise, just this one question
and I'll leave, never to be seen again.) Thank you!

Brad

Roland

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Mar 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/14/99
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The newsgroup alt.religion.scientology is under a concentrated spam
attack and has been for months. It is the members of the "Church" of
Scientology doing this in all likelihood since the newsgroup had
previously been flooded by hundreds of thousands of extracts from
the book "What is Scientology?". Valid headers from regular posters
are spliced onto nonsense messages or irrevelant messages or even
racial hatred messages from other newsgroups. The idea of this sort
of action is to get new readers to the newsgroup to either killfile
or ignore the regular posters since they think they are the source
of the nonsense posts. By doing this, the Scientologists hope to wipe
out all critical discussion of their "religion".

Roland

--
"I notice that we all believe that Venus has a methane atmosphere and
is unlivable. I almost got run down by a freight locomotive the other
day -- didn't look very uncivilized to me." - L. Ron Hubbard,
"Between Lives Implants" lecture, SHSBC #317. 23 July 1963.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~xemu/rams/Venusloc.ram

Mike O'Connor

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Mar 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/14/99
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In article <36EA64B7...@earthlink.net>, Brad Denton
<jami...@earthlink.net> wrote:
[...]

> A
> good friend forwarded the posts to me, and I have no idea what they
> mean.
[...]

Ask the good friend.

--
Mike O'Connor - lep...@panix.com
<http://www.panix.com/~lepton/>

Nico Kadel-Garcia

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Mar 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/14/99
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On Sat, 13 Mar 1999 08:14:31 -0500, Brad Denton <jami...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In the earlier posts to this newsgroup, two posters ("Martin Hunt" and
>"Warrior," respectively) post a number of messages that seem no more
>than a jumbled collation of scientific local-color and psychobabble
>insider jargon. What is it that they were trying to accomplish with

The messages were forged. There is a long-term attack, called "sporgery",
going on against this newsgroup.

Martin Hunt and Warrior are much more cogent.


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Warrior

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Mar 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/14/99
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In article <36EA64B7...@earthlink.net>, Brad says...

>
>In the earlier posts to this newsgroup, two posters ("Martin Hunt" and
>"Warrior," respectively) post a number of messages that seem no more
>than a jumbled collation of scientific local-color and psychobabble
>insider jargon. What is it that they were trying to accomplish with
>their "ska" wordfight? Were the posts simply meant to be humorous? A

>good friend forwarded the posts to me, and I have no idea what they
>mean. Does anyone mind telling me? (I promise, just this one question
>and I'll leave, never to be seen again.) Thank you!
>
>Brad

[posted & mailed]

Hello Brad,

Hundreds of postings have been forged by another person or persons
using my userID, "war...@entheta.net". I have been documenting
evidence of the forgeries for the past few months. Postings that I
actually make always have "newsguy.com" in the messageID line of the
header, except in a few instances where I posted through flash.net,
in which case "flash.net" appears in the messageID.

If you see a post which at first glance *appears* to have been made by
"Warrior <war...@entheta.net>", but upon looking at the header you
notice it has something like "citril.com" or "ajari.org" or "forky.net"
or any one of hundreds of messageIDs which have been attached to the
messages done by the forger(s), then you can be 100 percent certain that
the message was not posted by me.

In the meantime, if you wish to read actual posting done by me, you can
find a collection of them at the URL below.

Warrior
See http://www.entheta.net/entheta/1stpersn/warrior/


Warrior

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Mar 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/14/99
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In article <36EA64B7...@earthlink.net>, Brad says...
>
>In the earlier posts to this newsgroup, two posters ("Martin Hunt" and
>"Warrior," respectively) post a number of messages that seem no more
>than a jumbled collation of scientific local-color and psychobabble
>insider jargon. What is it that they were trying to accomplish with
>their "ska" wordfight? Were the posts simply meant to be humorous? A
>good friend forwarded the posts to me, and I have no idea what they
>mean. Does anyone mind telling me? (I promise, just this one question
>and I'll leave, never to be seen again.) Thank you!
>
>Brad

[posted & mailed]

Hello again, Brad,

I would very much appreciate it if you would forward to me, copies of the
posts which your "good friend forwarded" to you, along with the email
address of your friend. I am interested in seeing which posts are being
represented as having been made by me, as well as the identity of the
person making the representations.

Warrior
see http://www.entheta.net/entheta/1stpersn/warrior/


Dave Bird

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Mar 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/14/99
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In article <36EA64B7...@earthlink.net>, Brad Denton
<jami...@earthlink.net> writes

>In the earlier posts to this newsgroup, two posters ("Martin Hunt" and
>"Warrior," respectively) post a number of messages that seem no more
>than a jumbled collation of scientific local-color and psychobabble
>insider jargon.

Someone is faking them: check the headers.

-- __
.,-;-;-,. /'_\ : They seek her here, they seek her there, :
_/_/_/_|_\_\) / : those critics seek her everywhere --- :
'-<_><_><_><_>=/\ : is she in LA or gone for a swim, :
jgs `/_/====/_/-'\_\ : that demmed elusive Terrapin ? :
........"".....""....""..:>>>>>>>>>>> WHO IS THE MOCK TURTLE <<<<<<<<<
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Martin Hunt

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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In article <36EA64B7...@earthlink.net>,
Brad Denton <jami...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>In the earlier posts to this newsgroup, two posters ("Martin Hunt" and
>"Warrior," respectively) post a number of messages that seem no more
>than a jumbled collation of scientific local-color and psychobabble
>insider jargon.

I didn't post those; they were forgeries. The easiest way to tell
if I wrote a post is to look for my .sig file at the end:

"Cogito, ergo sum." plus some other text.

None of the forgeries have included it that I've noticed - or the
.sig files of anyone here. The newsgroup, by the way, is under a
massive forgery attack from Scientology. The cult doesn't like
what we have to say about them, I guess; they can't confront the
simple truth. Pity they wouldn't just own up to the truth and
move on, but I guess they're so aberrated that this is impossible
for them, the poor things.

--
Cogito, ergo sum.

"Scientology is a ruthless, destructive, and vindictive organization."
- James Randi

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