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Arnaldo Lerma

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OOtober 8, 1996

VIA TELEFAX AND U. S. MAIL

Arnaldo Lerma

6045 Nth 26th Rd.

Arl ington, VA 22207

Re: RTC v.. Lerma, No* 95-1107-A

Eastern District of Vrginia

Dear Mr. Lerma:
YOU have been hand served with the order issued this morning
by the Court, sealing the October 4' 1996 memorandum opinion issued
by Judge Leonie M. Brinkema and prohibiting any dissemination of
that memorandum opinion to any other persons until further order
of the Court.
I understand that you contacted Judge firinkema's sec
retary
and informed her that you had already transmitted copies of the
order to others, and that she informed you that you were not
permitted to distribute it to anyone, including any counsel, as
no counsel have entered an appearance for you in this case.
You are hereby placed on notice that you are to retrieve
all copies you have passed on to any other person, as we11 as
a11 copiws each such person has made of the order.
Furthermore, you are to inform me or my co-counsel, Mr. Fred
Sinclair, of all persons to whom you have disseminated the
order, the method by which you did so, and the date and time of
your dissemination *
Very truly yours,,

Helena K . Kobrin

co
Fred Sinclair, Esq.
William {q. Hart'
Iseq.


IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF VIRGINIA
Alexandria Division

RELIGIOUS TECHNOLOGY CENTER,

Plaintiff, v. Civil Action No. 95-1107-A

ARNALDO PAGLIARINI LERMA,
Defendant.

PLAINTIFF'S EX PARTE MOTION TO STRIKE OR SEAL SPECIFIED PORTIONS
OF THE COURT'S OPINION

Plaintiff Religious Technology Center ("RTC") hereby moves the Court
ex parte to strike two sentences, plus a few words of its October 4, 1
996 opinion (the "Opinion"), or in the alternative, to seal those
specified portions pending the outcome of its appeal of the earlier
trade secrets ruling by the Court.
This motion addresses a total of three sentences--all of which are in
a background portion of the Opinion, and thus not integral to the
Court's analysis--which purport to discuss or refer to beliefs ofthe
Scientology religion. Two of those sentences are at page 2, lines 1
1-16, beginning with the words "Scientologists believe." The few words
are contained in the first sentence of the next paragraph, namely
"through the creation of'free zones."' The one additional sentence is
at page 7, lines 1 1-13. The discussion and references contained in
those sentences are prejudicial to RTC because (a) they make
references to information which is a part of the trade secrets at
issue in this case; (b) while they purport
to state the religious beliefs of Scientologists, they incorrectly
state those beliefs, and irrespective of trade secret status, they are
unpublished works the context of which the owner has never permitted
to be published.
Specifically, RTC requests that the Court delete the language
set forth above, which is unnecessary to the Court's decision.
Alternatively, the Court should not distribute the decision as
currently worded, but rather, pending resolution of RTC's appeal on
the trade secret issues, that the Court redact the three sentences
referenced above with asterisks or some other notation so that a
misrepresentationof RTC's beliefs is not circulated and RTC's appeal
of its trade secret claim is not compromised.

This motion is based on the attached memorandum of points and
authorities submitted
herewith. It is filed ex parte in light of the urgency of dealing with
the requested relief.
Notice is being furnished simultaneously to defendant Arnaido Lerma.

Religious Technology Center By counsel J. FREDERICK SINCLAIR, P.C. 910
King
Street
Alexandria, VA 22304
Signature Sinciair Helena K. Kobrin 7629 Fulton Avenue North
Hollywood, CA 9
05

Arnaldo Pagliarini Lerma
Pro-Se
6045 N 26th Road,
Arlington Virginia 22207

8 October,
1996
VIA FAX AND US
MAIL

Helena Kobrin
2501 W Burbank Blvd Suite 309
Burbank California 91505

Re: RTC vs Lerma, No. 95-1107-A re: Your Fax
rcvd at 6:54PM EST
Eastern District of Virginia

Dear Ms. Kobrin,

Thank you for providing a hard copy of the order
sealing Judge Brinkema’a Memoranda, - your courier arrived at approx 3
PM. At Approx 2 PM I discovered a Fax from the Clerk of the Eastern
District with the order sealing the memorandum.

However even though you appear to misquote Judge
Brinkema’s secretary you say in your fax, and she informed you you
were not permitted todistribute it to anyone the word I recall was
anyone ELSE. It was an open court record until I read that
fax. I advised the court as to my actions and did ask that all copies
be destroyed, and provided all a copy of the sealing order with the
memo from me ‘please destroy all copies’.

However, if you insist on invading my own privacy [again] and
privilege as a pro-se litigant, by demanding that I tell you to whom
I speak on a regular basis, I’m sorry, but I cannot in good faith do
that. And I refuse.

Why not just tell the judge that I’m in possession of stolen
property again?
It worked the last time.

Very truly yours,

Arnaldo P. Lerma
Pro-se
cc: Fred Sinclair (mail)
cc: Judge Leonie Brinkema (fax)
cc: William M Hart (mail)


Notice: I do not consent to confidentiality of any unsolicited
communications sent to me
by you or your agents without prior agreement thereto.

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William Barwell

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In article <gradyDz...@netcom.com>, Grady Ward <gr...@netcom.com> wrote:
>
>Good luck... I estimate there exist more than 1,500
>copies of this memorandum on the disks or a.r.s readers;
>tens of thousands of news spools -- and -- with the fuss
>the ho is making out of a lawful US District Court decision,
>many more thousands of people will be downloading and sharing
>this memorandum with others.
>
>Take it in the ass again, ho. You and David Miscavige make
>a fine pair in a pas de deux poo poo.
>

And just why do you supose the cult wanted this made secret?
Cause the good judge mentioned .. Xenu! Gasp!
And a few other secret belifes that are ARS banalities.
The cult even admits the allusions to these beliefs are not even stated
properly.

But hey, didn't McShame himself in a court admit the tale of Xenu wasn't
in and of itself exactly a secret? And has not Xenu figured in most
critical books written in the last 10 years? And did not the Washington
Post mention Xenu, get sued and have the lawsuit tossed out?

One wonders why the judge let 'em seal this.
If the judge lets 'em get away with it, she will earn the title of rather
silly Judge.


So lets me tell you about de' story of Xenu, lil ones listen up to
you old pal, Thingfish. I'm Gwina tell ya alll about it.
Now this here Xenu dood was one badass dood. Said, I'm up
to m' ass in goofballs and losers. So this Xenu had his
goons gather up all these riffraff off of his 200 planets and ships em all
to Teegeeack. Thass what they used to call Earth 76 millions year 'go.
Now they shoots these people full of glycol, that's antifreeze and dey
puts' em in space ships and sends em all to Teegeack.
And dese here spaceships don't look like starwars space ships, they looks
like DC-8s. Funky, hey what?!
Well, they gets them all here and they puts all these people in volcanoes
and sets off atom bombs and kills em. Kills em all every last one.
So these dead people are dust, hot glowing dust at that, And their little
thetans are floating free. So Xenu and his badass doods use
superscientific eletronical equiptment to catch 'em all.
And den dey zaps 'em all with 'lectricity and a lightshow that lasted 36
days and implanted lots 'n lots of horrible memories for later.
Then they sets these thetans free.
Thems us now.
Now dat ho' don't wancha to know de truth, but here it am.
Kinda makes ya wanna know, what de fuck do dem fools think they doin'?
Everbody knows the tale.
And why dat judge let dem damn fools jerk her chain?
I dunno, so don't ask me. I just tells tales.
I's gonna give you back to de Pope now.

**************************


Poor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap!
Poor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap!
Poor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap!
Pope Charles
SubGenius Pope Of Houston
Slack!

William Bardwell

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ale...@dgs.dgsys.com (Arnaldo Lerma) writes:
> Re: RTC v.. Lerma, No* 95-1107-A
> Eastern District of Vrginia
> Dear Mr. Lerma:
> permitted to distribute it to anyone, including any counsel, as
> no counsel have entered an appearance for you in this case.

Just means you need to make any counsel official...

> You are hereby placed on notice that you are to retrieve
> all copies you have passed on to any other person, as we11 as
> a11 copiws each such person has made of the order.

Pardon me? I didn't see anything saying Lerma had to do that in the
court order. (Lerma, complain to the judge...)

> Furthermore, you are to inform me or my co-counsel, Mr. Fred
> Sinclair, of all persons to whom you have disseminated the
> order, the method by which you did so, and the date and time of
> your dissemination *

Uh...no...(not in the order either...Lerma's answer to this was good.)
BTW, who is Fred Sinclair, I haven't seen that name before...?

> Very truly yours,,

I have already commented on the use of that word in letters like this.
[...the "lawyers"...]
[...the parties...]


> PLAINTIFF'S EX PARTE MOTION TO STRIKE OR SEAL SPECIFIED PORTIONS
> OF THE COURT'S OPINION

[...asking for striking of words/sentances...or sealing them...]
[..they complain that the following is Trade secret, even though
it is public knowledge...]
Scientologists believe that most human problems can be traced to
lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial people massacres by their
ruler, Xenu, over 75 million years ago. These spirits attach
themselves by "clusters" to individuals in the contemporary world,
causing spiritual harm and negatively influencing the lives of their
hosts.
...and allegedly provide a detailed program for
warding off these evil influences through creation of "free zones."

> at page 7, lines 1 1-13.

(and this part, which I can't figure out where that is...)

> The discussion and references contained in
> those sentences are prejudicial to RTC because (a) they make
> references to information which is a part of the trade secrets at
> issue in this case; (b) while they purport
> to state the religious beliefs of Scientologists, they incorrectly
> state those beliefs,

Notice the conflict here...they are trade secret, but they mis-state
the beliefs...well if they mis-state the beliefs, then they must not
be the same as the trade secrets...pick one...

[...RTC says it unpublished trade secret...]
The judge already told them it ain't so...
[...RTC says it isn't nessicary to the opinion...]
True enough...not sure why it is in there to tell the truth...

> This motion is based on the attached memorandum of points and

[...lerma tells them to bite him...]
That is the correct answer, he even asked people to destroy their
copies, which wasn't nessicary...

[posted, mailed to lerma, hkk]
William Bardwell
wbardwel+@[cs.]cmu.edu

Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine

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In article <gradyDz...@netcom.com>, Grady Ward <gr...@netcom.com>
writes

>
>Good luck... I estimate there exist more than 1,500
>copies of this memorandum on the disks or a.r.s readers;
>tens of thousands of news spools -- and -- with the fuss
>the ho is making out of a lawful US District Court decision,
>many more thousands of people will be downloading and sharing
>this memorandum with others.

Yep. And it's just been reposted by somebody in Holland, too.

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Ted Mayett (Xenu)

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On Wed, 09 Oct 1996 01:57:59 GMT, ale...@dgs.dgsys.com (Arnaldo Lerma)
wrote:


> Why not just tell the judge that I’m in possession of stolen
>property again?
> It worked the last time.
>
> Very truly yours,
>
> Arnaldo P. Lerma
> Pro-se

Yeah, put a breath of life into all that paperwork.
Good job Arnie.

Karin Spaink

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William Bardwell <wbar...@CMU.EDU> wrote:
> ale...@dgs.dgsys.com (Arnaldo Lerma) writes:

(Lerma's citing RTC's appeal to close Brinkema's memo)


> > PLAINTIFF'S EX PARTE MOTION TO STRIKE OR SEAL SPECIFIED PORTIONS
> > OF THE COURT'S OPINION

> [...asking for striking of words/sentances...or sealing them...]


> [..they complain that the following is Trade secret, even though
> it is public knowledge...]

> Scientologists believe that most human problems can be traced to
> lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial people massacres by their
> ruler, Xenu, over 75 million years ago. These spirits attach
> themselves by "clusters" to individuals in the contemporary world,
> causing spiritual harm and negatively influencing the lives of their
> hosts.
> ...and allegedly provide a detailed program for
> warding off these evil influences through creation of "free zones."

> > at page 7, lines 1 1-13.

> (and this part, which I can't figure out where that is...)

"Whether achieved through animal spirits, witches, demons, curses, Satan,
angels, or "body thetans," spiritual healing is clearly not a concept
inherently tied to the OT Documents."


groet,
Karin Spaink

- I write, therefore I am: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink
Steunfonds rechtszaak Scientology v. Spaink et. al.:
- Vrienden van K., giro 450 9627, Amsterdam

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