2. What did you do to expose the criminality behind children
being strapped and killed in psychiatric hospitals?
3. What did you do when the bombing of Oklahoma City occurred
some years ago?
4. What did you do to help the victims of the earthquake in
Japan a few years ago?
5. What did you do to help the South African children to learn
and have an education?
6. How many children did you persuade to stay away from drugs?
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Does making donations to to real charitable groups that provide an accounting
of how they spend their funds count? An example being the Nature Conservancy;
they give a very good accounting of how they spend donations. If you did any
of the 6 things above then pat yourself on the back, you're helping to make
the world a better place. If your argument is that CoS engages in activities
1-6 it is good and since ARS people oppose CoS they are bad then that is what
some folks call a non-sequitir. I am one of them. I sincerely applaud the
Church of Scientology for helping educate children and promoting awareness of
the dangers represented by drugs. I hope that they are able to focus on these
efforts and learn to stop killing people with Introspection Rundowns. I also
hope that their motivation is as pure as you would have me believe.
Niall
Thought about I\Rs and I'm not in the mood to laugh right now.
Cicero...@usa.net wrote:
> 1. Where were you when Scientologists were exposing
> the slave camps in South Africa?
And offering their services to the racist apartheid system.
> 2. What did you do to expose the criminality behind children
> being strapped and killed in psychiatric hospitals?
In the basements of Clearwater hotels? Why'd they use chloral hydrate on
Lisa, Cissy? I think the psychs gave that one up years ago.
> 3. What did you do when the bombing of Oklahoma City occurred
> some years ago?
Well, for starters, I didn't get thrown out of Oke City for attempting to
sell the bomb victims a cult...
> 4. What did you do to help the victims of the earthquake in
> Japan a few years ago?
See #3 above.
> 5. What did you do to help the South African children to learn
> and have an education?
Far more than $cientology did. You have been informed this claim's been
debunked, haven't you? Or is it in the lesson that comes after Xenu, the
space tyrant?
> 6. How many children did you persuade to stay away from drugs?
Both of them.
> Cicero
"$cientology delenda est." --Cicero
As I recall, Ronny the rumandcoke boy with his personal harem were trying to
create permanent flag base in S.A. He had no problem with apartheid. (neither
did the official U.S. government, come to think of it).
>2. What did you do to expose the criminality behind children
>being strapped and killed in psychiatric hospitals?
>
What did you do? Any case of psychiatric abuse can be countered with post after
post of Scientological abuse of children. But you'll never accept the truth of
the affadavits, so what's the use?
Neither you nor your church have any moral high ground to stand on. You're in a
fraud, a fraud built of cast-off Freudianism, General Semantics, lie detectors
and the mad ravings of a greedy pathological liar. If there are indeed abuses
of mental care, Scientology is not the agency qualified to expose it.
Where were you when Lisa's death was exposed? Where's your position statement?
Where was your outrage?
>3. What did you do when the bombing of Oklahoma City occurred
>some years ago?
>
I believe I watched TV. What did you do? ?Use your ability to excorporate and
fly around OK to find McVeigh? Telepathy , perhaps?
>4. What did you do to help the victims of the earthquake in
>Japan a few years ago?
>
What did you do? Offer to run Purification Rundowns on the victims until they
died?
Most religions just have charities, and no more is said of it. You twits think
it's a PR department.
>5. What did you do to help the South African children to learn
>and have an education?
>
Well, I didn't try to educate them about the Emperor Xenu, and the invisible
alien souls clustering behind their livers, which is you would eventually
teach them if they stuck with Scientology. And you know damned well your
"education" is aimed at recruiting.
>6. How many children did you persuade to stay away from drugs?
>
Just one. You?
BTW, Hubbard himself gleefully popped pills and was perpetually blitzed on
alchohol. And he was a nicotine addict, the most deadly drug habit in the long
run. And he lectured that you were immune to tobacco's effects! And how many of
you idiots do I see smoking outside the Lincoln Ave. org?
And, WHAT did they inject Lisa with? Chloral hydrate? CHLORAL HYDRATE????
You shove drugs into people with *irrigators* when they are being held down.
You shove dangerous dosages of vitamins into their veins, dosages no doctor
would ever countenance.
And that wasn't an idividual's misapplication of the "tech", which is anything
but technical. It took crowds, it took relay teams to hold Lisa down to get
those monster needles into her. It was a GROUP effort. I DOUBT SHE WAS
COOPERATING, DO YOU?
And this is what we've *heard* about. Lisa was an aberration because her story
got out. How many hundreds of people have been treated like Lisa where we never
could hear them scream?
Scientology. Hypocrites. Killers. Hiders of killers.
-Davis
>Cicero
We were exposing the slave camps of Scientologists.
>2. What did you do to expose the criminality behind children
>being strapped and killed in psychiatric hospitals?
There are organizations within psychiatry that do that as well as outside
psychiatry.
>3. What did you do when the bombing of Oklahoma City occurred
>some years ago?
Watched as the right man was sentenced and sent to jail.
>4. What did you do to help the victims of the earthquake in
>Japan a few years ago?
Comforting my Japanese roommate in college.
>5. What did you do to help the South African children to learn
>and have an education?
I helped my church by giving them Bibles to send to South Africa to educate the
children.
>6. How many children did you persuade to stay away from drugs?
Many once I tell them that Narconon doesn't work.
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This is a troll yes? Otherwise you wouldn't be coming up with such
easily answered questions:
> 1. Where were you when Scientologists were exposing
> the slave camps in South Africa?
These would be slave camps run by the ANC presumably. Or the evil
psychs. The Church of Scientology was a firm supporter of apartheid, see
IMPACT magazine issue 16, where we learn that the CoS stopped the
terrorist schoolchildren rioting in Soweto by distributing 'The Way to
Happiness' booklets.
> 2. What did you do to expose the criminality behind children
> being strapped and killed in psychiatric hospitals?
Paranoid fantasies.
> 3. What did you do when the bombing of Oklahoma City occurred
> some years ago?
The Church of Scientology hired a hall in the aftermath and offered its
unique methods of consolation to the traumatised and bereaved. They were
not well received.
> 4. What did you do to help the victims of the earthquake in
> Japan a few years ago?
This is the 'Volunteer Ministers helping at disasters' were are
referring to? Unfortunately the bright person who suggested this to CoS
management didn't tell them that she'd stolen the idea from the
Jehovah's Witnesses. IIRC a JW memo got leaked, they were accused of
being 'ghouls' and dropped the whole thing very fast.
People who use disasters to recruit the vulnerable are SICK.
> 5. What did you do to help the South African children to learn
> and have an education?
The CoS claims to have sponsored education programmes in South Africa.
The South African Ministry of Education has no knowledge of any such
programmes and says the claims are 'fantasy'.
> 6. How many children did you persuade to stay away from drugs?
At last! Something the CoS does that we can agree with. Mind you, the
CoS is not just opposed to illegal drugs, it is opposed to all drugs
prescribed by the evil psychiatrists, to alcohol in order to recruit
naive Americans, but not to tobacco which prevents cancer, according to
Ron.
Oh, and not to feeding vitamins and herbal sleeping drugs to severely
psychotic people and watching them die rather than take them to
hospital.
--
Hartley Patterson
http://village.vossnet.co.uk/h/hpttrsn/
An old universe and a medieval spreadsheet
Featuring JRR Tolkien, Charles Fort and L Ron Hubbard
We can expect a smug condescending followup from smarmy Cicero, like he
was auditing us or something. I think he might be a C/S for the Make
Wrong Hatting Course.
--
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> 6. How many children did you persuade to stay away from drugs?
I've helped lots of kids develop the self-control needed to reduce their
Ritalin dosage. These kids were *referred* to the martial-arts studio
where I taught by a child psychiatrist for *exactly that reason*.
>1. Where was I when Scientologists was "exposing
>the slave camps in South Africa?"
Following a racist bastard's insane policies and lying about
"educating two million" kids in South Africa?
>2. What did I do to expose the criminality behind children
>being strapped and killed in psychiatric hospitals?
Read some more weird paranoid crap from that well-known
psychotic, L. Ron Hubbard, about how evil the ZOmBiE PsycHE DrUG
loRDS are?
>3. What did I do when the bombing of Oklahoma City occurred
>some years ago?
Try to apply "casualty contact" policies, essentially ambulance-
chasing to make a few more bucks and get your stats up?
>4. What did I do to help the victims of the earthquake in
>Japan a few years ago?
Same as for #3? And sell some crap "auditing technology" in
the process while applying completely useless and untested
"assists" to people?
>5. What did I do to help the South African children to learn
>and have an education?
Absolutely nothing, but lie like hell about it and inflate
numbers to absolutely absurd levels?
>6. How many children did I persuade to stay away from drugs?
About the same number you FSM'ed into the Sea Org, where they
live miserable lives to this day?
Well, I'm only guessing. The overt doth speak loudly in protest.
All this justification of yours only proves you need a few more
sec checks, dude(tte).
--
Cogito, ergo sum. Just the FAQs: http://scientologysucks.lron.com
1. What is the "church" of scientology DOING NOW to help the victims of
Hurricane Georges here in Puerto Rico?
I'll answer this one for ya because I've been thru it. The
"church" has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. The "church" has been
HIDING ALL THE TIME, JUST LIKE THE CRITTERS KNOWN AS ROACHES.
2. What is the "church" of scientology DOING NOW to help the victims of
Hurricane Georges in the Dominican Republic?
3. What is the "church" of scientology DOING NOW to help the victims of
Hurricane Mitch in Honduras?
4. What is the "church" of scientology DOING NOW to help AIDS victims?
5. How many homeless people the "church" of scientology HAS FED LAST
WEEK? (RPF'ers do not count)
6. How many shelters for homeless people does the "church" of
scientology
runs/administer NOW? (the RPF does not count)
Cristino, SP3
You are mocking up your reactive mind.
XENU and the BODY THETANS are THE REAL SOURCE of your problems.
http://www.xenu.net
John
Either in the army or in college. Did you ever serve in the armed forces
in your country?
>2. What did you do to expose the criminality behind children
>being strapped and killed in psychiatric hospitals?
Document all these examples, please. If the statute of limitations have
not expired, please notify the district attorney in the county or parish
of occurrence and have the hospital or its staff idicted.
>3. What did you do when the bombing of Oklahoma City occurred
>some years ago?
A lot more than your cheap pandering with so-called "touch assists" which,
if I had a headache, I probably would think very poorly of you and very
insulted if you tried that on me.
>4. What did you do to help the victims of the earthquake in
>Japan a few years ago?
See my answer to #3 above.
>5. What did you do to help the South African children to learn
>and have an education?
With your "help", they'd be better off illiterate.
>6. How many children did you persuade to stay away from drugs?
I have no idea. By example, I do my best to keep children away from drugs
by showing them how to use their minds to their fullest without chemicals
or trances. $cientologists can't make that claim, despite how hard they
rationalize it away.
--
Curtis R. Anderson, Co-creator of "Gleepy the Hen", SP 2.5?, KoX
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Presumably you are speaking of the private psychiatric camps
established with cooperation of the apartheid regime wherein
blacks were subjected to gross human rights abuses and hired
out as slave labor. For ferreting out these camps and exposing
these abuses, we sincerely thank the CCHR.
Now, the fact that the victims of these abuses happened to be
black is really irrelevant, isn't it? CCHR's agenda is the
destruction of psychiatry, not the support of human rights
(except as it serves their purpose). How terriby convenient
that anti-apartheid world opinion could be leveraged for CCHR's
cause.
I have a couple follow-up questions for you, Mr. Roman:
a. What led Mrs. Mkhize of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's
Mental Health Workshop panel (20-21 November 1997) to ask the CCHR
representative who gave testimony, "Why are you not so popular...
not only here, world wide? ...you scare people off, why is that?"
<http://www.truth.org.za/hrvtrans/mental/1mental.htm>
b. Where is Scientology's submission to the Truth and
Reconciliation Commission's Faith Communities Hearing (17-19
November 1997)? Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Baha'is, Catholics,
Protestants, African Traditional Religions and even the Dutch
Reformed Church made their statements of contrition, victimization,
or anti-apartheid activities. Where was the *Church* of Scientology?
<http://www.truth.org.za/hrvtrans/faith/faith.htm>
<snipped>
> 5. What did you do to help the South African children to learn
> and have an education?
Tell me, Mr. Roman, what exactly did Scientology do?
South African Embassy
Canberra
ac 8/74 7 April 1992
MR Tony McClelland
[Private address withheld]
Dear MR McClelland,
Re: Church of Scientology
Your fax ref. tm0506 dated 5 June 1991 regarding possible Church of
Scientology school education in South Africa.
The matter has been taken up with the Department of Education and
Culture as well as the Department of Education and Training who are
responsible for school education in South Africa.
Both denied any knowledge of the Church's involvement in formal
education in South Africa.
According to the Department of Education and Training, the Church of
Scientology tried to use a front organization in 1989, the so called
"Education Alive" but was not allowed to get involved in the
Department's schools.
I am afraid their claim of teaching 1.5 million children in South
Africa to read is just another fabrication.
Yours sincerely
Johan Klopper
Second Secretary
"Just *another* fabrication".
Keshet
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>>its taly or somebody i really *can* injure. >>allow me my folly.
>
>you sir,
>are allowed all the folly you can carry. you are >NOT allowed to bring bags,
>um, bags, er, or bags (can't think of a different >word) into the Airey Booth
>of Folly!!!
>
>you can folly all day and folly every night!
>
>you can have your folly and eat it too!
>
>you can kill me quicker than i can say folly again!
>
Hartley dearest.
Nice try but
I will not allow you to distract me from the reason I am on this newsgroup..I am here to share ideas and opinions and discusions with others.
... so post your follies toward something constructive or be folly yourself as you
clearly make yourselves everytime you post something negative.
What more do you need? Why does it matter? humans, being what they are,
will always find someone or something to dislike.
If you're gonna beat 'em, why do you need some other reason besides "they
ain't in my socio-economic/ socio-political/racial-philosphical group"?
Most (if not all) "tolerant" "anti-racists" are just a different flavor of
totalitarian.
>My
>opinion: you can't have it both ways. You're either a racist, or not.
Racist = "My group is best because I'm a member of it"
Why is this wrong?
We used to call it "loyalty".
> Life is Sweet Kathy... as it ever shall be
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftBank/2307
> St.TimothyAliciaPeterErisdaughterGeorgSutter
Spirit Chaser wrote:
> Don't she just make you wanna fuck her?
>
> [Image]
Spirit Spirit Spirit.......I loved that
pic....my roomie just commented that in her
opinion..and she is not anti Preteen or
Pedo or any of that moral bullshit
crap...that that pic makes her think of it
as the identity of the true Pedo..... we
laughed for a good half hour at this.....
wish all the moralists would just fuck off
and die...damn...a man has to have some
relief from the stresses its not like any
of us go out and molest little kids for
real....
>1. Where were you when Scientologists were exposing
>the slave camps in South Africa?
Well, we weren't in an RPF prison being slowly tortured and
starved to death.
>2. What did you do to expose the criminality behind children
>being strapped and killed in psychiatric hospitals?
Well, we weren't kidnapping people, tying them up, and
starving them to death.
>3. What did you do when the bombing of Oklahoma City occurred
>some years ago?
Well, we weren't cutting people's break lines and drowning their
dogs.
>4. What did you do to help the victims of the earthquake in
>Japan a few years ago?
Well, we weren't stockpileing weapons, explosives, and ammunition.
>5. What did you do to help the South African children to learn
>and have an education?
Well, we weren't brainwashing innocent people with idiot notions about
invisible dead space aliens murdered by Lord Xenu.
>6. How many children did you persuade to stay away from drugs?
Well, we weren't shooting women in the head and refusing to tell their
fathers how they died.
Guess who wins again.
~~~
Hunting the Great White Clam http://www.xenu.net
>>3. What did you do when the bombing of Oklahoma City occurred
>>some years ago?
>I believe I watched TV. What did you do?
Like vultures (and so many other insane cults and self-professed
"militias") the crime syndicate tried to come in and bilk the victims
of the bombing of their money. The Scientology crime syndicate
attempted to take advantage of the grief and disassociation which
results from such.
Scientology is evil to its core.
> Cloudwalker98 <Cloudw...@sofnet.com> wrote:
>
> >he is due for a rude awakening any day now...
>
> Funny how racists keep saying that anyone who _isn't_ a cretinous imbecile
> is 'in for a rude awakenening', usually 'very soon' or 'when the Race War
> comes'.
>
> Somehow, neither the awakening nor the promised race war has yet
> materialised. I wonder why?
>
> Peter
> -
> -=-Peter Miller=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-EvilMeower(at)hotmail(dot)com-=-
> "The occasional Dreamspeaker Barabbi may assure you that the only way
> that Gaia can be cleansed is to be eaten by the Wyrm, but he probably
> doesn't really beleive that, he just wants to stall you long enough to
> gouge out your eyes and skullfuck you." --Saint of Killers.
> -=-alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk-=-=-=alt.fan.karl-malden.nose-=-
waiting for enough of you sorry race traitor scum to be joined with the
niggers before unleashing on your worthless asses...its coming scum
sucker...never doubt that... it will be when we want it to be...when you have
all assumed that it is nothing but redneck trailer trash bullshit...oh yes..it
will take your sorry asses by surprise..yes indeed...
>Cicero...@usa.net wrote:
>> 6. How many children did you persuade to stay away from drugs?
>What did you do, and where were you for all of the above?
sitting on his ass, lying like a fool, and posting pathetic, insane DA
packs.
>John
rob
<SNIP>
>
A forged message, of course. And I think, not a coincidence.
-Davis
Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:53:17
Jewish genocide: -An old tradition-
vin...@dreamon.com
The BOK at National Alliance
<http://www.natall.com>
Here is a little piece of history that shows our lovable and eternally
persecuted Jewish friends showing their appreciation and love to the
Romans for allowing them into their society.
Edward Gibbon from his book "Decline and fall of the Roman Empire,"
page 384.
"From the reign of Nero to that of Antoninus Pius, the Jews displayed
a fierce impatience of the domination of Rome, which repeatedly broke
out in the most furious massacres and insurrection. Humanity is
shocked at the recital of the horrid cruelties which they [the Jews]
committed in the cities of Egypt, of Cyprus, and of Cyrene, where they
dwelt in treacherous friendship with the unsuspecting natives ... In
Cyrene they massacred 220,000 Greeks; in Cyprus, 240,000; in Egypt a
very great multitude.. Many of these unhappy victims were sawed asunder
according to a precept to which David had given the sanction of his
example. The victorious Jews devoured the flesh, licked up the blood,
and twisted the entrails like a girdle around their bodies."
You see, multi-culturalism does work after all!
Best Regards,
Vincent
>From the Jewish World of February 9, 1883 we read:
"The great ideal of Judaism is that the whole world shall be imbued
with Jewish teachings, and that in a universal brotherhood of nations
- a greater Judaism in fact - all the separate races and religions shall
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>Q: Did Kommandant Hoess say anything to you about the gas chambers?
>
>A: I received a written order from him that I had nothing to do with
>either the gas chambers or the incoming transports.
A written order? Produce it.
> In the crematorium the S.S. and
>prisoners -- Sonderkommando -- were under the command of the
>Kommandant of Auschwitz, Hoess
But Hoess was transferred OUT of Auschwitz in 1943!--Only one year after being
specially commissioned to carry out the "Final Solution."
>The actual selections of the internees were made only by
>doctors.
As I have always said...so the prosecution witnesses were lying when they
claimed Aufseherinnen were authorized to make selections.
>Those who were selected for the gas chambers went to the
>different crematoria, those who were found to be fit for work came
>into two different parts of my camp, because the idea was that in a
>few days they were to be re-transferred to different parts of German
>for work.
In fact, it was the SICK who were transferred to other facilities.
>I did not know what
>the purpose of the gas chamber was.
That has to be the dumbest response in all of the genre.
>Q: Was it constructed under your instructions and did you quite
>deliberately gas 80 prisoners in that gas chamber?
>
>A: Yes, on the orders of Reichsführer Himmler.
>
If so, then these were legal executions, but the Natzweiler chambers are
likewise fabrications.
>Q: Did you force these people into the gas chamber yourself?
>
>A: Yes.
>
>Q: Did you actually put the gas in yourself and watch them inside as
>they died through a peephole you had made?
>
>A: No.
>
>[...]
No, that was done by the sandman....
>Q: Did you not describe that the women continued to breathe for about
>half a minute?
>
>A: One could hear that. It was not necessary to observe.
>
>
How could one hear breathing in a hermetically sealed building?
>
>Q: Were you not chosen as Kommandant of Birkenau because you had
>proved yourself willing to do this sort of thing?
>
>A: No, I do not think so, because I got a special order that I had
>nothing to do with either crematoria or transports.
>
>Q: When Kommandant Pohl demanded your word of honour not to talk about
>the gas chambers, why was it that you could not tell anybody if it was
>all legally proper and above board?
>
>A: I do not know. Nothing could be said about concentration camps in
>the outside world.
>Mike Curtis
>
>
Another ridiculous answer which testifies to the fact that Kramer was tortured
and threatened into giving this line of testimony.
Isn't it more a question of insisting upon "equal rights" for ALL AMERICAN
CITIZENS and LEGAL RESIDENTS. The US is a country founded specifically on
the premise that 'all men are created equal', not necessarily in
intelligence or ability, but at least in the sense that they should all
be given the same starting point and then allowed to gravitative to
wherever their abilities - and fate - take them. If a group is
systematicaly denied 'equal rights' on the basis of race today, what is to
prevent some other group from being denied 'equal rights' on the basis of
religion, eye color, or the number os syllables in his/her last name some
time in he future. I could certainly produce statistics to show that
whites, blacks, and Hspanics are all a burden on American society, and
that we would all would be better off if the resources spent educating,
incarcerating, and providing other services for them were minimized, with
the resulting difference spent educating and pampering an intellectual
aristocracy composed exclusively of Ashkenazic Jews. The existence of an
analogous system in England, with a 'better born' aristocracy sponging off
the common people, that eventually resulted in the establishment of a
country based on the premise that veryone should be provided with the same
starting point and enjoy the same basic rights.
> I am among those who, perceiving the results over the past 40 years,
have concluded
> that such a thing is not in the best interest of the white majority -
and THAT is
> all that matters to me.
Consequences are difficult to separate from causes. Thanks to the efforts
made and struggles waged during the past 40 years many, many more black
Americans are college educated, are firmly established in the middle
class, and are thus more committed to the advancement of America as a
whole than they are to the advancement of their race in particular. Such a
developmnt is in *everyone's* best interests.
--
Best regards,
Eugene Holman
This is why this civilization is dead,
and good riddance .
Ken.
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On 10/15/98 8:34AM, in message
<7054mv$1s3$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
richar...@hotmail.com wrote:
I personally don't understand the who aspect of why
someone would take pride
in their ancestry. Is there something magical about
the nationality/ethnic
ancestry that would rationally make sense that they
would feel good about it?
I don't grasp the concept. What difference does
the womb you crawl out of
matter to who you are as a person? In regards to
the issues of equality, how
can you have equality at the same time you have
ethnic pride?
Isn't ethnic pride just another word for racism, the
belief that you are
superior to other people based upon what other
people you are related to did
before you were born?
Someone please clue me in. Should not a person be
judged on their merits and
potential alone, not their family tree?
Thanks...
- Richard Hutnik
I think I know where Cicero was, sitting around making up this silly and
absurd list of superfluous questions. During all of these disasters, I was
spoutting off about injustice myself, and about insanity, murder, abuse, etc.
Any of this sound familiar? Do you know anyone or any organization that
fits this profile? Cicero needs to go check out the cadet org., Hemet and
the garage at clearwater.
roxthefox1
SP3 and proud
only man was created in god's image and that is why man does not lick his
own ass and chase cars
> >Furthermore Queers cannot re-produce
>
> Wrong.
name one faggot that had offspring by copulation and conception
> >Also Adam Levenstein, if God did not exist, we
> >would not exist,
>
> If the existence of God was proven, that would be true. Since I don't
> buy the claim that some all-powerful diety without beginning or end
> created with universe just by thinking about it, and have yet to see
> the existence of such a be proven, I will continue to doubt it.
no wonder why god let your kind be dealt with by nazis
> >get that through your thick head
> >head and become straight as nature has intended.
>
> *snicker*
> You know, you really shouldn't make so many assumptions about the
> world. I don't know if "nature" intends something one way or the
> other, but I do know I most certainly orient towards the opposite sex.
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> Adam Levenstein
blank page.....
no, nobody is taking over the net,
foolish thought.
chuck ferree
Here's another vote for becoming an RN. The money is pretty decent
(depending of course on where you're working). The original poster didn't
state if s/he had any other mouths to feed - but when you're flying solo,
you could get by working part time as an RN. Many institutions offer
increased pay in lieu of benefits, and evening/night/weekend differentials.
A caveat, though - when you are working, you're working HARD!!
Rose RN, BNSc