Attn: Fellow Criminals
JimDBB
charged so that all of us can post the same bogus threats. Let us see if we
all get arrested. If everyone will do this we can, I believe, focus needed
attention on this sham case.
JImdbb SP 4
mimus
It would have to be ICBM/cruise missile/trained eagle "threat" +
picket, wouldn't it?
I saw
many people
reduced to
incoherent babbling,
stripping off clothes,
crawling around on the ground,
banging heads, limbs and other body parts
against furniture and walls,
barking,
losing all sense of one's identity
and intense and persistent suicidal ideation.
--Declaration of Andre Tabayoyon
I'm an OT.--Lisa McPherson
If you imagine 40-50 Scientologists
posting on the Internet every few days,
we'll just run the SP's right off the system.
It will be quite simple, actually.
--Elaine Siegel, OSA INT (1996)
Case 5/BTLA/SP1/BAD
Zinj
>
>jim...@aol.com (JimDBB) wrote:
>
>>Will someone post Keith Henson's email posts that got him arrested and and
>>charged so that all of us can post the same bogus threats. Let us see if we
>>all get arrested. If everyone will do this we can, I believe, focus needed
>>attention on this sham case.
>
>It would have to be ICBM/cruise missile/trained eagle "threat" +
>picket, wouldn't it?
>
>--
>tinmi...@hotmail.com
Actually, since it's a doctrine of Scientology® that suppressives can magically
affect those around them, they don't need any threats at all.
If we follow what appears to the Henson's case logic, where only the subjective
fear, realistic or not, is at issue, *every* one of us could be convicted on
the same charges as Keith, and questioning the sanity of that fear would be
disallowed as being an attack on the 'religion'.
Go for it Scwartz
Zinj
Dr. Paloma
says...
>
Ahh, how refreshing to hear a critic who doesn't try to pretend he's honest.
Dr. Paloma
>
>In article <3ae9cce5...@news.zoomnet.net>, tinmi...@hotmail.com says...
>>
>>jim...@aol.com (JimDBB) wrote:
>>
>>>Will someone post Keith Henson's email posts that got him arrested and and
>>>charged so that all of us can post the same bogus threats. Let us see if we
>>>all get arrested. If everyone will do this we can, I believe, focus needed
>>>attention on this sham case.
>>
>>It would have to be ICBM/cruise missile/trained eagle "threat" +
>>picket, wouldn't it?
>>
>>--
>>tinmi...@hotmail.com
>
>affect those around them, they don't need any threats at all.
There is no such "doctrine". You merely exhibit your ignorance.
>
>If we follow what appears to the Henson's case logic, where only the subjective
>fear, realistic or not, is at issue,
This is "case logic"??
>*every* one of us could be convicted on
>the same charges as Keith,
Something to consider.
Valerie Emanuel
I'm in.
V
Beverly Rice
That's really stupid.
Let's talk effectiveness for the long run.
Much better to discuss that thinking "freedom of speech"
is the right to say foolish things that can put a noose
around your neck isn't the wisest of actions.
Much more effective is to discuss the case, why Keith was
~NOT~ allowed by the judge to give the reasons that he was
picketing . . .
or to present the LRH policies that dealt directly with what
Co$ was doing with him . . .
and that the "destroy them utterly" remark the jury found
so "offensive" and "hateful" are words directly out of
Ill ron HubTOAD's mouth that Keith was simply repeating . . .
and just exactly ~how~ Co$ was able to present this case
to begin with . . .
step by step.
One thing that seems sadly apparant sometimes, is that
when buttons get pushed on people here, they react in a
way . . .
or make statements that lack wisdom and foresight . . .
that is most beneficial to the Co$.
This post may not be appreciated . . .
but ask me if I care about that.
What I ~DO~ care about are actions that aren't going
to backfire on people.
ARC = As-Ising the Real Co$,
Beverly
ptsc
>JimDBB wrote:
The posts in question are at
http://freehenson.tripod.com/hensonposts1.txt
http://freehenson.tripod.com/hensonposts2.txt
http://freehenson.tripod.com/hensonposts3.txt
(Minus two of them.)
It should also be noted that these are the full, unaltered posts, not the
redacted forgeries submitted as exhibits in court. For example, they quoted
Henson paraphrasing L. Ron Hubbard saying "destroy them utterly," then cut the
paragraph directly afterward clarifying that he intended to picket them some
more, rather than commit some violent act. The State's case was largely
predicated on falsifying the evidence.
ptsc
Tommy
I'll go that one better. I will advise my Marcabian Masters that a
plasma stream discharge attack against Hemet Base is called for and
should be implemented immediately.
There - I have just advocated an attack on Gold using particle-beam
weaponry from Marcabian battle cruisers.
Since $cientologists believe in the Fifth Marcabian Invasion Fleet as a
real threat, I have just threatened everyone at Hemet base with
annihilation.
Arrest me.
Tommy
--
Church of $cientology's "ecclesiastical leader" David Miscavige on the
death of Lisa McPherson, a church member locked up until she died:
"At the time I don't think it was really thought to be that
significant an issue. She died. People die."
Mike O'Connor
I'd like to see the redacted posts the jury saw, so we could compare
them side by side with the original posts.
--
SCIENTOLOGY IS SECRETLY A UFO CULT
ASK THEM ABOUT XENU
Mike O'Connor <http://www.leptonicsystems.com/>
mimus
>In article <3aea0...@news2.lightlink.com>, zinj...@i.am says...
>>
>>In article <3ae9cce5...@news.zoomnet.net>, tinmi...@hotmail.com says...
>>>
>>>jim...@aol.com (JimDBB) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Will someone post Keith Henson's email posts that got him arrested and and
>>>>charged so that all of us can post the same bogus threats. Let us see if we
>>>>all get arrested. If everyone will do this we can, I believe, focus needed
>>>>attention on this sham case.
>>>
>>>It would have to be ICBM/cruise missile/trained eagle "threat" +
>>>picket, wouldn't it?
>>>
>>>--
>>>tinmi...@hotmail.com
>>
>>Actually, since it's a doctrine of ScientologyŽ that suppressives can magically
>>affect those around them, they don't need any threats at all.
>
>There is no such "doctrine". You merely exhibit your ignorance.
Liar liar pants on fire--if you're a Scientologist "connected" to a
"suppressive person (SP)" you become a "potential trouble source
(PTS)" and are sent to "ethics"--and the major "ethical" way of
dealing with SPs affecting PTS cases is "disconnection"--of families,
lovers, business associates and so on.
And you know it.
>>If we follow what appears to the Henson's case logic, where only the subjective
>>fear, realistic or not, is at issue,
>
>This is "case logic"??
>
>>*every* one of us could be convicted on
>>the same charges as Keith,
>
>Something to consider.
>
>> and questioning the sanity of that fear would be
>>disallowed as being an attack on the 'religion'.
>>
>>Go for it Scwartz
>>
>>Zinj
>>
>>
>
--
Dr. Paloma
>
>Dr. Paloma <Dr._m...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <3aea0...@news2.lightlink.com>, zinj...@i.am says...
>>>
>>>In article <3ae9cce5...@news.zoomnet.net>, tinmi...@hotmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>>jim...@aol.com (JimDBB) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Will someone post Keith Henson's email posts that got him arrested and and
>>>>>charged so that all of us can post the same bogus threats. Let us see if we
>>>>>all get arrested. If everyone will do this we can, I believe, focus needed
>>>>>attention on this sham case.
>>>>
>>>>It would have to be ICBM/cruise missile/trained eagle "threat" +
>>>>picket, wouldn't it?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>tinmi...@hotmail.com
>>>
>>>Actually, since it's a doctrine of ScientologyŽ that suppressives can magically
>>>affect those around them, they don't need any threats at all.
>>
>>There is no such "doctrine". You merely exhibit your ignorance.
>
>Liar liar pants on fire--if you're a Scientologist "connected" to a
>"suppressive person (SP)" you become a "potential trouble source
>(PTS)" and are sent to "ethics"--and the major "ethical" way of
>dealing with SPs affecting PTS cases is "disconnection"--of families,
>lovers, business associates and so on.
>
The above quote says there is a doctrine about "magical" effects. The idea that
people are influenced by others is hardly magical. Even the law recognizes this
when for example it proscribes athletes from associating with professional
gamblers, etc. As I said, there is no such doctrine about "magical effects"; you
merely exhibit your ignorance and/or blind hatred.
mimus
>In article <3aeaea1c...@news.zoomnet.net>, tinmi...@hotmail.com says...
>>
>>Dr. Paloma <Dr._m...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <3aea0...@news2.lightlink.com>, zinj...@i.am says...
>>>>
>>>>In article <3ae9cce5...@news.zoomnet.net>, tinmi...@hotmail.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>>jim...@aol.com (JimDBB) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Will someone post Keith Henson's email posts that got him arrested and and
>>>>>>charged so that all of us can post the same bogus threats. Let us see if we
>>>>>>all get arrested. If everyone will do this we can, I believe, focus needed
>>>>>>attention on this sham case.
>>>>>
>>>>>It would have to be ICBM/cruise missile/trained eagle "threat" +
>>>>>picket, wouldn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>tinmi...@hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>>Actually, since it's a doctrine of Scientology® that suppressives can magically
>>>>affect those around them, they don't need any threats at all.
>>>
>>>There is no such "doctrine". You merely exhibit your ignorance.
>>
>>Liar liar pants on fire--if you're a Scientologist "connected" to a
>>"suppressive person (SP)" you become a "potential trouble source
>>(PTS)" and are sent to "ethics"--and the major "ethical" way of
>>dealing with SPs affecting PTS cases is "disconnection"--of families,
>>lovers, business associates and so on.
>
>The above quote says there is a doctrine about "magical" effects. The idea that
>people are influenced by others is hardly magical. Even the law recognizes this
>when for example it proscribes athletes from associating with professional
>gamblers, etc. As I said, there is no such doctrine about "magical effects"; you
>merely exhibit your ignorance and/or blind hatred.
LOL
You wouldn't be, say, splittin a *hair* there or two, wouldja?
Feisty
mimus <tinmi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3aeaea1c...@news.zoomnet.net...
> Dr. Paloma <Dr._m...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <3aea0...@news2.lightlink.com>, zinj...@i.am says...
> >>
> >>In article <3ae9cce5...@news.zoomnet.net>, tinmi...@hotmail.com
says...
> >>>
> >>>jim...@aol.com (JimDBB) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Will someone post Keith Henson's email posts that got him arrested and
and > >>>>charged so that all of us can post the same bogus threats. Let us
see if we > >>>>all get arrested. If everyone will do this we can, I
believe, focus needed > >>>>attention on this sham case.
> >>>
> >>>It would have to be ICBM/cruise missile/trained eagle "threat" +
> >>>picket, wouldn't it?
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>tinmi...@hotmail.com
> >>
> >>Actually, since it's a doctrine of ScientologyŽ that suppressives can
magically affect those around them, they don't need any threats at all.
> >
> >There is no such "doctrine". You merely exhibit your ignorance.
mimus wrote:
>
> Liar liar pants on fire--if you're a Scientologist "connected" to a
> "suppressive person (SP)" you become a "potential trouble source
> (PTS)" and are sent to "ethics"--and the major "ethical" way of
> dealing with SPs affecting PTS cases is "disconnection"--of families,
> lovers, business associates and so on.
Your quote hit me in a different way, mimus.That terribly reinforces people
"not" to communicate with others if they in any way criticize, eg - "If you
play, your gonna pay" mentality. He threatened as a manipulation alot.
Hubbard was really a threatening, unkind person. And in the reverse, he made
money off of these people, punishing -them- for doing that! How can these
people not see this crazy scenario!
Feisty
Tommy
>
> JimDBB wrote:
> >
> > Will someone post Keith Henson's email posts that got him arrested and and
> > charged so that all of us can post the same bogus threats. Let us see if we
> > all get arrested. If everyone will do this we can, I believe, focus needed
> > attention on this sham case.
> >
> > JImdbb SP 4
>
> I'll go that one better. I will advise my Marcabian Masters that a
> plasma stream discharge attack against Hemet Base is called for and
> should be implemented immediately.
>
> There - I have just advocated an attack on Gold using particle-beam
> weaponry from Marcabian battle cruisers.
> Since $cientologists believe in the Fifth Marcabian Invasion Fleet as a
> real threat, I have just threatened everyone at Hemet base with
> annihilation.
> Arrest me.
>
> Tommy
>
Still waiting for that anti-terrorism team to break down the door.
C'mon, guys - hurry it up. I have to go to work soon.