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Gregory Hall

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:41:10 PM11/23/09
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No wonder Barbara Schwarz, LRH's lovely and talented daughter, is so
obsessed with the German SS and psychiatry. It's because L. Ron. Hubbard
believed it, too. Like father, like daughter. Here is the last page of a
Hubbard essay:


. . . During the riots of the 60s, the Justice Department could be counted
on to discourage or charge local police who sought to handle.

This finally built up to labeling as �dissident� any organization or
church that sought to stem the avalanche of disaster engulfing the country.

Manufacturing dossiers for public leaders who had none but whom the
Justice Department did not like, they set organizations against
organizations and promoted chaos wherever possible. Their list of thousands
of men and groups they secretly attacked reads like Who�s Who�and indeed is
becoming a sort of honor roll.

The Justice Department had now become a carbon copy of a Nazi secret
police force.

It was found that it forwarded false dossiers on Americans abroad to
get them in trouble.

Its channel was Interpol, the Nazi group, that J. Edgar has joined
despite objections of Congress.

Ah, well, now it all begins to make some sense.

Anger at an agent who would dare clean up German spies, permitting
Pearl Harbor, protecting German psychiatrists, subjecting the country and
its better-known opinion leaders to a reign of terror, even the
assassination of a far too liberal president all bear the stamp of just one
thing: a secret love of fascism and a knowing or unknowing patterning of its
actions on fascist lines has led the Justice Department not only to protect
Hoover but to perpetuate him.

Probably Justice Department clerks, lawyers and even �G-men� do not
consciously realize where they have been led.

A department that favors such sentiments and tactics will always breed
crime and lawlessness.

Fascism and secret police do not belong in the American scene.

It is quite wonderful to see those people mouthing concern about crime
and revolt.

They are breeding, starting and fostering it with their raw naked
vengefulness against the American people.

The country, one cannot help but see, would get along just fine without
any Department of �Justice.�

The appropriations it obtains by exhibiting the crime it does not
handle and the unrest and spirit of revolt it generates should be cut off
totally before it takes over all the police forces in the country and we
have a fascism complete, total and in earnest.

But anyway, one mystery is solved.

All his years, Mr. Hoover hunted relentlessly for �Public Enemy No. 1.�
As crime soared higher and higher during his reign the search apparently was
in vain.

But what do you know? Now after all the archives have been opened at
last we know who was Public Enemy No. 1. It was J. Edgar Hoover!

-- L. Ron Hubbard

from: http://freedom.lronhubbard.org/page040.htm


Barbara Schwarz

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:47:28 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 6:41 pm, "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake> wrote:
> No

Some governmental people try to rename the FBI HQ building as they are
ashamed of J. Edgar Hoover! I would be too.

Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:52:14 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 6:47 pm, Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com>
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> > from:  http://freedom.lronhubbard.org/page040.htm- Hide quoted text -


(14) Attorney General Laurence Silberman, after discovering Edgar
Hoover's secret files in 1974.

J. Edgar Hoover was like a sewer that collected dirt. I now believe he
was the worst public servant in our history.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAhooverE.htm

husk

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:22:08 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 7:41 pm, "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake> wrote:
> No wonder Barbara Schwarz, LRH's lovely and talented daughter, is so
> obsessed with the German SS and psychiatry.

What is your point Greg. Is it to be critical of LRH? If so, I would
listen to your argument.

But just look at your opening statement. Rather than discuss your
thoughts about LRH, which could create useful debate, you seek to
ridicule another's position. As much as I do not see eye to eye with
Ms. Schwartz, and as much as she does not like many of my conclusions
about scientology, I am in agreement with her that ridicule should be
left out of it, especially when one is the author of a thread. Yes
she has started threads about you, but if I were her, I'd be losing my
patience as well.

Make your statement about LRH. Make your statement about Hoover.
Wait for a response and debate the issue, not the person.

Gregory Hall

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:31:00 PM11/24/09
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[REPLY]

Speaking of points, what's the point of discussing, ad nausea, a dead man?
The only bearing a dead man has on the living is his legacy. Part of his
legacy is the body of his writings. What the LRH wrote is a mirror into his
mind and the minds of those whom he taught. Barbara says LRH was her father.
I choose to believe her. Like father, like son (or daughter) as the old
saying goes.

When I stumble on any works of LRH it makes it possible for me to see cause
and effect. The effect is seen in the present in the action of living
Scientologists. The cause is what LRH wrote in the past. There is a logical
progression there to study.

Why should you call observing cause and effect 'ridicule' unless your mind
works in warped ways whereby you have a romantic interest in Barbara and are
offended at anybody else seeking to understand why she acts like she acts in
this group. I can't speak for anybody else but I find it much more
interesting discussing living people. You can have the dead all to yourself.

--
Gregory Hall

husk

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Nov 24, 2009, 5:33:23 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 2:31 pm, "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake> wrote:.....

> Why should you call observing cause and effect 'ridicule' unless your mind
> works in warped ways whereby you have a romantic interest in Barbara and are
> offended at anybody else seeking to understand why she acts like she acts in
> this group. I can't speak for anybody else but I find it much more
> interesting discussing living people. You can have the dead all to yourself.
>
> --
> Gregory Hall

Using the word, "obsessed,' is ridicule. If you had used the word,
"focus" instead, your purpose would not have been suspect.

So was your goal to ridicule or was the point of your discussion the
content of LRH's quote?

If you haven't figured out why Barbara discusses at length LRH and
Germans, then you haven't been paying attention.

Barbara Schwarz

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:45:00 PM11/24/09
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Neal is looking for a mate. That is the only reason why he is posting
here. He should look in Christian churches to find a woman, somebody
who shares his views. I posted often enough that I don't.

He is wasting his time.


Barbara Schwarz

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