Co$ uses Amnesty International
Android Cat
sponsored links pretty far up the alt-chain. (alt.religion had two Co$
links.) Down in ARS, there was another one for
http://www.freedomleaders.com/materials-services/books/index.html which
drapes itself in the US flag, values, freedom, blag-blah and uses a couple
non-Co$ groups.
At the top at http://www.freedomleaders.com there are a few more links
added to the Co$ text. There appear to be minor differences from page to
page on their site.
I wonder how Amnesty International feels about being used by Co$ like
this?
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Ron of that ilk.
Howard Edmunds
Doubtless some members of AI feel quite sh*tty about it. The
question is, what might be done? It's certainly opportunistic but
not illegal.
Howard
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Balsero en el mar de vida.
Tom Klemesrud
organization that identified itself as "We The People."
I has been doing quiet a bit of contract videotape editing for Paramount
Pictures Television at there lot in around 1988. This was during the
time "Days of Thunder" was being shot--I would see the actual green race
car parked in the alley of the Paramount movie lot during this time.
I would use the control room that "Entertainment Tonight" used until
3:30pm, to do various editing projects, after the show rapped. (This
hi-tech control room could rent for as much as $500.00 per hour).
My supervisor then, Bill Childers, told me in no uncertain terms, that
my continued employment by Paramount would depend on my coming in on
Saturday, and working for free to edit something for "We The People,"
which I did. At that time I thought I might be able to deduct my rate
of pay from my income tax because initially I was told this was a tax
exempt institution. Later I was told by Childers, I believe, that "We
The People" was not exempt.
We edited what amounted to a silly amateur music video to a tune they
recorded with the words of the preamble of the Constitution. They gave
me a 45rpm record of the song as a gift.
I just wonder why Paramount would give the use of their expensive studio
for 8 hours to a group that was not a 501(c)3 organization.
I wonder if Tom Cruise arranged this?
IDA J 007
>From: "Android Cat" androi...@hotmail.com
>Date: 02/22/2004 6:52 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <Um3_b.53$Mo4....@news20.bellglobal.com>
truth is in order.
Ida Camburn
"You must have crossed the river to tell the crocodile he has bad breath"
Chinese proverb >
Android Cat
> Ironically this SP6 has done some free "charity work" for this
> organization that identified itself as "We The People."
>
> I has been doing quiet a bit of contract videotape editing for
> Paramount Pictures Television at there lot in around 1988. This was
> during the time "Days of Thunder" was being shot--I would see the
> actual green race car parked in the alley of the Paramount movie
> lot during this time.
>
> I would use the control room that "Entertainment Tonight" used until
> 3:30pm, to do various editing projects, after the show rapped. (This
> hi-tech control room could rent for as much as $500.00 per hour).
>
> My supervisor then, Bill Childers, told me in no uncertain terms, that
> my continued employment by Paramount would depend on my coming in on
> Saturday, and working for free to edit something for "We The People,"
> which I did. At that time I thought I might be able to deduct my rate
> of pay from my income tax because initially I was told this was a tax
> exempt institution. Later I was told by Childers, I believe, that "We
> The People" was not exempt.
>
> We edited what amounted to a silly amateur music video to a tune they
> recorded with the words of the preamble of the Constitution. They
> gave me a 45rpm record of the song as a gift.
>
> I just wonder why Paramount would give the use of their expensive
> studio for 8 hours to a group that was not a 501(c)3 organization.
>
> I wonder if Tom Cruise arranged this?
How odd. I thought Co$ had all of those wonderful upstat studios at Gold
for doing that sort of thing.
Ah, I forgot to check out one of the companies in the copyreich at the
bottom of the page. Outflow? Sounds spammish. Oh *them*! They've been
mentioned here before.
http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=_89A9.5791%242x4.606829%40news20.bellglobal.com&rnum=5&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D%2522Outflow%2BT
echnologies%2522%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D_89A9.5791%25242x
4.606829%2540news20.bellglobal.com%26rnum%3D5
They certainly don't hide their connection:
"Web Hosting, Web Design, Web Marketing & Consulting, e Commerce, Web &
Database Programming by Outflow Technologies. Our Clients
Sponsored Sites: Online Gift Ideas, Periodontist Directory, Dianetics: The
Evolution of a Science, What is Scientology?, Scientology Religion, David
Miscavige Annual Tribute to L. Ron Hubbard, Church of Scientology Int.
Spokesperson, Scientology, Church of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard and
Scientology: Marburg Journal of Religion, Scientology A Comparison with
Other Religions, Church of Scientology UK"
Hmm.
http://www.therabreath.com/dental_care_and_oral_hygiene/6/periodontist-cincinnati-ohio.html
has a link to http://www.freedomleaders.com/wtaft.shtml for no particular
reason.
(Shouldn't that be thetanbreath?) It also tries a pop-up to flog "The Bad
Breath Bible". (Dianetics under a different name?)
Android Cat
>>
>> At the top at http://www.freedomleaders.com there are a few more
>> links added to the Co$ text. There appear to be minor differences
>> from page to page on their site.
>>
>> I wonder how Amnesty International feels about being used by Co$ like
>> this?
>
> them the truth is in order.
I was planning to, but I'm not sure if they can do anything about a simple
link and description. Co$ still has pages claiming to have received
commendation letters from the Red Cross in spite of denials from the Red
Cross. I doubt the Red Cross wants to waste money on lawyers to get them
to take those down; they have more important things to do, as does Amnesty
International. Perhaps if AI spoke to Google about that sponsored link,
but Google's policies are somewhat arbitrary.
The text doesn't _directly_ claim an association between AI and Co$'s
sock-puppet groups like CCHR that are listed. I wonder if
www.freedomleaders.com has ever contributed a thin dime to AI?
Tom Klemesrud
Android Cat wrote:
Now that I think about it, if I remeber correctly, there may not have
been any work order generated for this job. Paramount may not have known
their equipment was being used: Like it was a Bowfinger Films
production with the equipment "borrowed."
roger gonnet
"Android Cat" <androi...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de
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I have written to Human Rights Watrch as well, because the frauds of
scientologist do use the "human rights watch" as a keyword behind some of
their pages.
I doubt HRW is sponsoring such a badly abusing crime cult.
r>
Hartley Patterson
> I wonder how Amnesty International feels about being used by Co$ like
> this?
They get used so much that I doubt it would bother them. Amnesty is a
'good' organisation when it publishes reports criticising them evil
terrorist regimes, not so good when it criticises our allies, and a
bunch of liberal dogooders when it criticises us.
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"Hartley Patterson" <hpt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Android Cat:
>
> > I wonder how Amnesty International feels about being used by Co$ like
> > this?
>
> They get used so much that I doubt it would bother them. Amnesty is a
> 'good' organisation when it publishes reports criticising them evil
> terrorist regimes, not so good when it criticises our allies, and a
> bunch of liberal dogooders when it criticises us.
Amnesty Intl kind of lost their edge for most folks after Mandela was
released and apartheid was supposedly abolished as government policy.
Peoples' awareness of the organization was at the time so geared towards the
anti-apartheid movement that I suppose everything after that was an
anti-climax.
It would seem at times that AI is in a phase of growth bureaucratically, in
the process of making more offices in order to raise public awareness and
make more money for whatever cause they're championing (or the converse of
course). I'd say the jury was out on them until the next time they [1]
stand up and [2] get noticed - and THEN one would have to see if they slump
into the "what have they done for me lately" PR rut that they're in right
now.
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Revd. Norle Enturbulata
"Church" of Cartoonism
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"This volume probably contains more promises and less evidence per page
than has any publication since the invention of printing."
- Review of "Dianetics", Scientific American, 1951
Hartley Patterson
> It would seem at times that AI is in a phase of growth bureaucratically, in
> the process of making more offices in order to raise public awareness and
> make more money for whatever cause they're championing (or the converse of
> course).
Amnesty has always championed just one cause, that of requiring
governments to treat political prisoners legally.
This annoys the hell out of most governments, since if they are not
acting illegally themselves they are often supporting governments that
do.
Amnesty workers never support prisoners in their own countries, for
obvious reasons.