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ho...@lightlink.com
Dec 8, 2011, 9:06:02 AM12/8/11
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OK, so collapsed space = withhold, restraint and justification.
Notis-ness of withhold leads to inactuality, which leads to delusion,
hysteria, shock, catatonia, and oblivion.
Now when I was in the church, back when they were still doing
some real auditing, they ran me on withholds, and misssed withholds,
for hours and hours and hours etc.
But nothing ever came up. Green forms, red forms, yellow forms,
even the dreaded black form, but no black core incident, no relief, no
case gain.
Just endless sad effect at the Examiners passing as an F/N.
Why?
Wrong process?
Audited by black core beings?
Source was a black core being?
PC was surrounded by black core BT's?
PC part of a black core cluster?
PC selling black core licenses to mothers to breed out of season
and for the wrong reason?
PC unable to confront?
PC unwilling to confront?
PC intentionally wasting everyone's time and his own money?
PC had a covert purpose to being audited?
PC failed his A to Z, I mean J?
1000 hours later pc still hadn't given auditing enough time or
the church enough money?
Let us once again hear the crowds speak their wisdom, what is the
exact correct why for my case failure?
Do correct why's open the door?
Homer
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OK, so collapsed space = withhold, restraint and justification.
Notis-ness of withhold leads to inactuality, which leads to delusion,
hysteria, shock, catatonia, and oblivion.
Now when I was in the church, back when they were still doing
some real auditing, they ran me on withholds, and misssed withholds,
for hours and hours and hours etc.
But nothing ever came up. Green forms, red forms, yellow forms,
even the dreaded black form, but no black core incident, no relief, no
case gain.
Just endless sad effect at the Examiners passing as an F/N.
Why?
Wrong process?
Audited by black core beings?
Source was a black core being?
PC was surrounded by black core BT's?
PC part of a black core cluster?
PC selling black core licenses to mothers to breed out of season
and for the wrong reason?
PC unable to confront?
PC unwilling to confront?
PC intentionally wasting everyone's time and his own money?
PC had a covert purpose to being audited?
PC failed his A to Z, I mean J?
1000 hours later pc still hadn't given auditing enough time or
the church enough money?
Let us once again hear the crowds speak their wisdom, what is the
exact correct why for my case failure?
Do correct why's open the door?
Homer
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Homer Wilson Smith The Paths of Lovers Art Matrix - Lightlink
(607) 277-0959 KC2ITF Cross Internet Access, Ithaca NY
ho...@lightlink.com In the Line of Duty http://www.lightlink.com
Wed Sep 6 01:08:14 EDT 2006
================ http://www.clearing.org ====================
Thu Dec 8 03:06:02 EST 2011
ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/homer/adore385.memo
Send mail to arc...@lightlink.com saying help
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Homer Wilson Smith The Paths of Lovers Art Matrix - Lightlink
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Andrew Robertson
Dec 8, 2011, 12:13:51 PM12/8/11
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On 8/12/2011 9:06 p.m., ho...@lightlink.com wrote:
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> Let us once again hear the crowds speak their wisdom, what is the
> exact correct why for my case failure?
> Do correct why's open the door?
The correct 'Why' might depend on the angle one viewed your case, Homer.
Put your finger in a glass of water and it appears bent. Take it out
and it's now straight. Both observations are correct. Refraction alters
reality.
A meat ball might answer you by pointing out that any psychotherapy is
ineffective in 'opening doors' when the subject of the analysis is
stubborn, intransigent and arrogant and unwilling to listen to other
viewpoints.
The dream ball, by asserting that the psychotherapy always worked if
performed correctly so your auditing was not 100% standardly applied, or
someone close to you was suppressing resolution of your 'case'.
As a meat ball, my inclination is to take what's valuable and ditch the
rest. Some aspects of the Silva Mind Control courses I took were
useful. But some were wishful thinking. If you stand for long enough
in Oxford Street on a rainy Friday night you'll eventually get a taxi.
But it's not because of your postulates. Wanting to believe so badly as
to defy all common sense and reason, is to me, not sensible.
Regards
Andrew
> Homer
<snip>
> Let us once again hear the crowds speak their wisdom, what is the
> exact correct why for my case failure?
> Do correct why's open the door?
Put your finger in a glass of water and it appears bent. Take it out
and it's now straight. Both observations are correct. Refraction alters
reality.
A meat ball might answer you by pointing out that any psychotherapy is
ineffective in 'opening doors' when the subject of the analysis is
stubborn, intransigent and arrogant and unwilling to listen to other
viewpoints.
The dream ball, by asserting that the psychotherapy always worked if
performed correctly so your auditing was not 100% standardly applied, or
someone close to you was suppressing resolution of your 'case'.
As a meat ball, my inclination is to take what's valuable and ditch the
rest. Some aspects of the Silva Mind Control courses I took were
useful. But some were wishful thinking. If you stand for long enough
in Oxford Street on a rainy Friday night you'll eventually get a taxi.
But it's not because of your postulates. Wanting to believe so badly as
to defy all common sense and reason, is to me, not sensible.
Regards
Andrew
> Homer
Homer Wilson Smith
Dec 8, 2011, 7:52:58 PM12/8/11
to Andrew Robertson, cle...@mailman.lightlink.com
> A meat ball might answer you by pointing out that any psychotherapy is
> ineffective in 'opening doors' when the subject of the analysis is
> stubborn, intransigent and arrogant and unwilling to listen to other
> viewpoints.
Blame it on the preclear.
> ineffective in 'opening doors' when the subject of the analysis is
> stubborn, intransigent and arrogant and unwilling to listen to other
> viewpoints.
Church is a master of this.
> The dream ball, by asserting that the psychotherapy always worked if
> performed correctly so your auditing was not 100% standardly applied, or
> someone close to you was suppressing resolution of your 'case'.
However Church is also a master of asserting that standard tech is
'Truth' enough to work on everyone, so if it doesn't work on someone,
again we blame the preclear.
The Church is a master of this.
The closest person suppressing my 'case' was my C/S and auditor.
The next person was L. Ron Hubbard or his apparency in my life.
> As a meat ball, my inclination is to take what's valuable and ditch the
> rest. Some aspects of the Silva Mind Control courses I took were
> useful. But some were wishful thinking. If you stand for long enough
> in Oxford Street on a rainy Friday night you'll eventually get a taxi.
> But it's not because of your postulates. Wanting to believe so badly as
> to defy all common sense and reason, is to me, not sensible.
dream time, then the ultimate desirability of the AllThatIS is probably
assured or had better be.
Thus what we DESIRE is a good indicator or what is true, as long
as the view we have of what we desire is mature and infinite.
A clear knows what he desires, most can't afford to.
Homer
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>
> Regards
>
> Andrew
>
>> Homer
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Homer Wilson Smith
Dec 8, 2011, 7:52:58 PM12/8/11
to Andrew Robertson, cle...@mailman.lightlink.com
> A meat ball might answer you by pointing out that any psychotherapy is
> ineffective in 'opening doors' when the subject of the analysis is
> stubborn, intransigent and arrogant and unwilling to listen to other
> viewpoints.
> ineffective in 'opening doors' when the subject of the analysis is
> stubborn, intransigent and arrogant and unwilling to listen to other
> viewpoints.
Blame it on the preclear.
Church is a master of this.
Church is a master of this.
> The dream ball, by asserting that the psychotherapy always worked if
> performed correctly so your auditing was not 100% standardly applied, or
> someone close to you was suppressing resolution of your 'case'.
> performed correctly so your auditing was not 100% standardly applied, or
> someone close to you was suppressing resolution of your 'case'.
Truth always works when applied at all.
However Church is also a master of asserting that standard tech is
'Truth' enough to work on everyone, so if it doesn't work on someone,
again we blame the preclear.
The Church is a master of this.
The closest person suppressing my 'case' was my C/S and auditor.
The next person was L. Ron Hubbard or his apparency in my life.
However Church is also a master of asserting that standard tech is
'Truth' enough to work on everyone, so if it doesn't work on someone,
again we blame the preclear.
The Church is a master of this.
The closest person suppressing my 'case' was my C/S and auditor.
The next person was L. Ron Hubbard or his apparency in my life.
> As a meat ball, my inclination is to take what's valuable and ditch the
> rest. Some aspects of the Silva Mind Control courses I took were
> useful. But some were wishful thinking. If you stand for long enough
> in Oxford Street on a rainy Friday night you'll eventually get a taxi.
> But it's not because of your postulates. Wanting to believe so badly as
> to defy all common sense and reason, is to me, not sensible.
> rest. Some aspects of the Silva Mind Control courses I took were
> useful. But some were wishful thinking. If you stand for long enough
> in Oxford Street on a rainy Friday night you'll eventually get a taxi.
> But it's not because of your postulates. Wanting to believe so badly as
> to defy all common sense and reason, is to me, not sensible.
Roger Larsson
Dec 9, 2011, 9:20:41 AM12/9/11
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Wisdom without any reflections is obnoxious.
Failures + time = :-)
It’s impossible to fail as a self because the beingness as a self can
contain an endless number of failed roles it’s possible to laugh at.
A faith in an asshole saying it’s possible to fail makes failures to a
reality. The power is given away to Hubbard’s ass carrying more weight
than one’s own ass. His judgments become the reigning law. Others
don’t make someone down; it’s the FAITH in an others ass that cause
the down fall.
Real illusions = faked realities
A sec-check gained my “no case gain”.
Hubbard’s name popped up as the SP on my line during a sec-check. He
couldn’t be handled with sunshine and beautiful weather so I
disconnected from the SP in scientology.
Sec-checks gain ”no case gains” cases.
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