So far, no babbling cult PR talking heads have appeared in defence yet. The
ones they have in the UK have usually appeared to be of pretty low IQ and
inarticulate. During the BBC Panorama flap last year they had to fly in
Rinder but now he's disappeared and they are probably already thin enough on
the ground for experienced articulate liars and obviously won't want another
one escaping.
No representitives of Cruise have appeared either (hardly surprising).
Peace and Goodwill
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www.xenutv.com
Another interview came on SKY News which I just about caught the bulk of on
my DVR after scrabbling to find the remote. Lots more facts about the cult.
Even the news presenter wondered openly about whether she sould call it a
religion.
This is good stuff.
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Finally got it, thanks Barb!
He's right up there with some of GWB's antics last year (e.g., the roast
pig in Stralsund)... I can understand the poster who said these guys
can turn everybody into Republicans :-))
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> I have this on DVR and I'll try to have it webbed somewhere soon.
I would suppose Martin would not be so totally forgetful as not to record
himself for the archives :-)
http://cosmedia.freewinds.cx/media/
> During the BBC Panorama flap last year they had to fly in
> Rinder
...but no one would speak to him. He didn't get one single interview.
--
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http://news-from-bree.blogspot.com
I'm hanging on for the Jeremy Thompson spot on SKY News at the moment. He's
done a bit on TC so far but he's also got Arnie Lerma coming on at 18:45 UK
time. That should be interesting.
Then I'll wrap up the 3 or 4 segments I've got from today, convert/edit and
put it on Youtube.
I'm a bit busy with work but hopefully it should be available for when west
coast USA gets in from work. ;)
You are a (UK) national treasure deserving of a knighthood.
Yes, Hartley, I will update the media archive some time soon.
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18:45 GMT, some ex-scientologist guy from Washington.
Good work Arnie! This is Sky's 24 hour MOR news channel, running the story
every half hour with different interviews.
>an...@anon.net:
>> Sky News (UK) has been regularly airing bits of the Tom Cruise GaGa clip.
>> There was some discussion in the morning in the studio and later on they
>> interviewed scientology expert Dr.Martin Poulter in Bristol.
>
>18:45 GMT, some ex-scientologist guy from Washington.
>
>Good work Arnie! This is Sky's 24 hour MOR news channel, running the story
>every half hour with different interviews.
hi, Hartly.
I just got back form Sky's offices at Fox News by the US
Captol..in DC.. Original airtime was 13:49-14:00 hrs... be great if
you or someone could catch the interview on tape...and pass it along..
regards
Arnie Lerma
Tel 703-241-1498
Arnie Lerma
http://ocmb.lermanet.us/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=381
http://www.Lermanet.com Exposing the CON
WE COME BACK
for our friends and family
to get them out of scientology
before they end up here:
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
> I'm so glad you've got this. It was arranged at short notice and I
> notified some friends but we had no way of capturing it at work, so I
> thought I'd missed the chance to see how it came out.
> In the past I've had a "don't do live TV" rule but I decided to break
> it this once. I don't think I did badly, although I talked over the
> host at a couple of points. I just hope I struck a blow.
You seem to be in a procession. I've seen Arnie and just now a legal
expert standing outside the London Celebrity Centre for no discernable
reason, still no 'right of reply' from the cult (American readers, think
Fox News without politics).
> Yes, Hartley, I will update the media archive some time soon.
I was NOT nagging. :-)
>I'm so glad you've got this. It was arranged at short notice and I
>notified some friends but we had no way of capturing it at work, so I
>thought I'd missed the chance to see how it came out.
>In the past I've had a "don't do live TV" rule but I decided to break
>it this once. I don't think I did badly, although I talked over the
>host at a couple of points. I just hope I struck a blow.
Dera Martin and freinds
Frankly, in spite of 45 hours of radio, I dont know if Ill every get
used to LIVE TV
Ive only got a few minutes on TV in the past. I have no idea what I
talked about.. and would like to see if I embarrassed myself and my
freinds..
Producer said I loosened up quickly and dd fine... ie was bit nervous
to start.
and there is more media on my message machine when I got home...
take care,
I did the best i could
Arnie Lerma
http://ocmb.lermanet.us/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=381
http://www.Lermanet.com Exposing the CON
WE COME BACK
for our friends and family
to get them out of scientology
before they end up here:
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
Hey kids, LAUGH at Scientology today!
http://www.lermanet.us/SPEpisode912TrappedintheCloset.rm
And he was never heard from again...perhaps he visited Fleet Street for
a quick shave...
Sir Hartley of Bree!
Check PM on "the board".
I got some bonus stuff. Luckily I got sidetracked and didn't finish off the
DVD after Arnie's spot because a bit later they did a really nice piece on
cult copyright threats etc which I just managed to record, and rounded it
all off nicely.
Magic 8 Balls says; "All Signs Point To Copyright Theft".
After all; why would the 'Greatest Good for the Greatest Number of
Dynamics' demand paying the original authors?
Zinj
--
You Can Lead a Clam to Reason; but You Can't Make Him Think
He sure is :)
TC makes it very clear that Scientologists don't have to ask permission for
anything.
not sure who holds the mechanical, but...Didn't Danny Elfman (re)do
the theme music for MI? Jenna's brother-in-law?
-maggie, human being
> --
> barb
> Chaplain, ARSCCwdne
>
> buy my book!http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fAcctID=1198812
>
> read my page! (thanks, R. Hill!)http://www.xenu-directory.net/critics/graham1.html
>
> visit my store!http://www.cafepress.com/birdville- Hide quoted text -
Looking great from here Arnie. Well done!
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*
* "...Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her
crimes, known and unknown. And act completely confident that those crimes
exist...."
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*
* "All men shall be my slaves! All women shall succumb to my charms! All
mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!"
- L. Ron Hubbard, "Personal Affirmations"
Thanks, I gave it my best shot,
and gave scientology my BEST shot...
I have the producers questions and my notes of what I thought I might
say...made while wiaitng in the "green" room... with a couple of
House Staffers who were being interviewed on CNN
I dont think i would proper to post the networks proposed
questions...and I would like to stay on good terms...
While waiting in an office with three producers... I told the xenu
story in full... from memory, from RTC vs Lerma
They were all saying things like
Are you serious?
...incredible....
..I think I heard the word ...maddness..
However, my written works are (c) me.. grin
Of course, it NEVER turns out the way you think it is going to, and
this one did not turn out the way I thought it would either...
what I wrote down had little to do with what I ratlled off in
response...
>an...@anon.net:
>> Sky News (UK) has been regularly airing bits of the Tom Cruise GaGa clip.
>> There was some discussion in the morning in the studio and later on they
>> interviewed scientology expert Dr.Martin Poulter in Bristol.
>
>18:45 GMT, some ex-scientologist guy from Washington.
>
>Good work Arnie! This is Sky's 24 hour MOR news channel, running the story
>every half hour with different interviews.
http://www.lermanet.us/martinpoulter-skynews.avi
http://www.lermanet.us/scientology-skynews-part2.avi
http://www.lermanet.us/arnie-lerma-skynews-part3.avi
http://www.lermanet.us/lawyer-skynews-part4.avi
MartinPoulter wrote:
> I'm so glad you've got this. It was arranged at short notice and I
> notified some friends but we had no way of capturing it at work, so I
> thought I'd missed the chance to see how it came out.
> In the past I've had a "don't do live TV" rule but I decided to break
> it this once. I don't think I did badly, although I talked over the
> host at a couple of points. I just hope I struck a blow.
>
> Yes, Hartley, I will update the media archive some time soon.
>
Awesome work - you did well! From what very little I've done of TV, I've
always been glad it wasnt live.
Nice work, Sky News, and particularly the critics :-)
Here's those URIs again:
> http://www.lermanet.us/martinpoulter-skynews.avi
> http://www.lermanet.us/scientology-skynews-part2.avi
> http://www.lermanet.us/arnie-lerma-skynews-part3.avi
> http://www.lermanet.us/lawyer-skynews-part4.avi
Best Regards
Jens
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Martin Poulter got his PhD at last. Congratulations!!
Congratulations on getting your PhD.
There are those who come across well like Tory does. You don't come
across well. I wouldn't come across well. But thanks for trying.
Martin did OK but he is nowhere near being up there with Tory or Dave
T. He had response lags, which came cross as him not knowing what he
was talking about, and he wasn't able to steer the conversation like
Dave T can do. Martin that was great, but more practice will help.
To save bandwith, we got them YouTubed.....
Tom Cruise & Scientology: Career Death 1of4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfAjK1EJHYY
Tom Cruise & Scientology: Career Death 2of4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhP7K1UVrG4
Tom Cruise & Scientology: Career Death 3of4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs26_QAoW2o
Tom Cruise & Scientology: Career Death 4of4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmnxkR9QmQE
To save bandwith........
Martin, I think Roland;'s jealous. :D You were excellent.
-maggie, human being
-maggie, human being
--------
Yes, Dr. Poulter was very good. Factual, no fluff, articulate.
Roland is just having withdrawl symptoms. He's merely cruising for his next
punch in the face ;-).
http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/duke_tour/muslinger/lndn970503.html
Peace
JAFAW
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Martin was guilty of "comm lags". And we all know what that means!
----------
There was no direct digikal microwave TV news link to Bristol so the video
signal had to be bounced off the Van Allen Belt (which was hot) and it
produced a technical lag, especially since the audio was not multiplexed and
was sent seperately by trucks and wire things. Sheesh, don't you know
anything? ;).
He's thinking before offering a response?
The nerve of that guy!!!
Disgusting!!
And to *waste* bandwidth, I've embedded them to the "sekret" video pages on
FrontCite. :-P
http://home.primus.ca/~ronsharp/FrontCiteTW.html#Slack
--
Ron of that ilk.
It's not like he's been pre-loaded with programmed responses. We can't *all*
be scientology spokespeople.
Some of us have to be .. sweepers .. especially with Scientology around.
Thanks so much for getting these up, JAFAW aka quentinkrisp :)..Thing
is, they are down now. At least the link to Part 3 is because I had it
upon my blog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs26_QAoW2o
Thursday, January 17, 2008
Tom Cruise and The Church of Scientology Video : "The World's Largest
Global Scam"
http://free-from-scientology.blogspot.com/2008/01/tom-cruise-and-church-of-scientology.html
Well the video is up at youtube so I went and got the embedded code,
redid it on my blog and the video is up and running. Why would that
happen? The code was the same as the first time. We're you editing it
or something?
Anyway, great job putting this all together. Hopefully these will be
up on many blogs. Thanks to all who participated.
Mary
---------
No idea Mary. As far as I know, nothing has changed since it was put up.
Thanks for compliments.
Peace
JAFAW
>Then I'll wrap up the 3 or 4 segments I've got from today, convert/edit and
>put it on Youtube.
What is your channel name on YouTube?
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When you're a Scientologist, and you drive by an accident, you know
you have to do something about it, because you know you're the only
one who can really help. -- Heterosexual Tom Cruise describing his
magic powers (Member of The North American Man Dwarf Love Association?)
The YouTube clips are hosted here.....
>"Friendly Xenu" <Xe...@aol.COM> wrote in message
>news:13p2a02...@corp.supernews.com...
>> "JAFAW" <an...@anon.net> wrote:
>>>Then I'll wrap up the 3 or 4 segments I've got from today, convert/edit and
>>>put it on Youtube.
>> What is your channel name on YouTube?
>The YouTube clips are hosted here.....
What is your channel name on YouTube? I'm running Windows 3.11
here with some version 4 something of Netscape so I can't view
videos.
---
When you're a Scientologist, and you drive by an accident, you know
you have to do something about it, because you know you're the only
one who can really help. -- Heterosexual Tom Cruise describing his
magic powers.